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*Jihad came before the Crusades*

 
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*Jihad came before the Crusades*
The idea of fighting religious enemies in order to cleanse one's sins did not originate with the Crusades, as a lot of naive think. It was introduced by Mohammad himself:

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 175:
Narrated Khalid bin Madan:

That 'Umair bin Al-Aswad Al-Anasi told him that he went to 'Ubada bin As-Samit while he was staying in his house at the sea-shore of Hims with (his wife) Um Haram. 'Umair said. Um Haram informed us that she heard the Prophet saying, "Paradise is granted to the first batch of my followers who will undertake a naval expedition." Um Haram added, I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Will I be amongst them?' He replied, 'You are amongst them.' The Prophet then said, 'The first army amongst' my followers who will invade Caesar's City will be forgiven their sins.' I asked, 'Will I be one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' He replied in the negative."

[link to www.usc.edu]

The first jihad against Constantinople started in 674.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The islamic fundamentalists kept their sights on that city for hundreds of years to come and relented only after conquering it.

What a nerve the muslims have in demanding the Pope to say he is sorry for stating the truth abotu Mohammad.
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Re: *Jihad came before the Crusades*
That is a great find, OP. It confirms that these animals started everything.
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The Jihad, was one of the reasons for the Holy Crusades...
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Yes indeed. Anything to fend off these animals is totally justified.

The Jihad, was one of the reasons for the Holy Crusades...
 Quoting: Highlander_
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above posts make me laugh....whats with all the hatred over fellow humans...

everyone is right in thier own way...hell if you were born in iraq...you would be yelling jihad and fighting US forces

jihad, crusades...are just excuses for human behavior...you can even further go back and find even more wars over god and religion

face it we were animals back then armed with stones and spears...and we are animals now armed with guns and bombs
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Are you one of those animals? I hope not.

above posts make me laugh....whats with all the hatred over fellow humans...

everyone is right in thier own way...hell if you were born in iraq...you would be yelling jihad and fighting US forces

jihad, crusades...are just excuses for human behavior...you can even further go back and find even more wars over god and religion

face it we were animals back then armed with stones and spears...and we are animals now armed with guns and bombs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42897
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The Jihad, was one of the reasons for the Holy Crusades...
 Quoting: Highlander_


& since everything repeats...

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The everlasting downward spiral, hate breeds hate breeds hate...
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Well, I guess that makes everything going on in the world OK>

LMAO

Organized religion is a fucking curse for the weakminded.

Find spirituality in your own heart, and mind.

Make it work for you.


Its not a fucking club.


You are born alone, you die alone, find your fucking spirituality alone.


Fucking Cross following sheep.


Do you think if jesus comes back, he wants to see a fucking cross again?



What about the missing part of the bible, that was outlawed, that said the way to christ isnt through the church, its through yourself, and your own personal relationship with Him?

Yeah, very convenient for that to go missing. With that book recognized and studies, this organized shit has nothing.

Truth.
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oh look, a rationalization for modern day hate! *insert various propagandist rhetoric here* damn you muslim christian jewish hindu buddhists!
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Re: *Jihad came before the Crusades*
jihad=struggle
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Re: *Jihad came before the Crusades*
egyptians made the jews slaves way before the romans did.moses brought them out of egypt with the rod of god.samuel hued agag to pieces.david cut goliaths head off.elijah cut 850 false prophets throats at the river kishon after calling down fire from heaven....jihad always seems to loose in the end.
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egyptians made the jews slaves way before the romans did.moses brought them out of egypt with the rod of god.samuel hued agag to pieces.david cut goliaths head off.elijah cut 850 false prophets throats at the river kishon after calling down fire from heaven....jihad always seems to loose in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 149921

one could say that according to jews...they have been in a constant struggle/jihad...with their god since time began.
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jihad=struggle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 106668


jihad=holy war
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My idiot's bigger than your idiot
My idiot's bigger than yours
My idiot's bigger cause he fought holy war sooner
My idiot's bigger than your's is.
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narrow minded dumb founded dipshits..

King Solomon was the grandfather of freemasonry.. yes i know my enemies.. comprimise, conformity, assimulation, submission, ignorance, hippocracy, brutality, the elite.

jihad is an inner spiritual struggle

are you a conservative? then go be live in a real conservative atmospher-India, China, most of the ME
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jihad is an inner spiritual struggle

 Quoting: not_A_sheep

If that is so, why does it produce so many disembodied heads?
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Re: *Jihad came before the Crusades*
I openly admitt I hate all people,
White, black, yellow, brown, red, etc etc
Now..call me a racist, please
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Re: *Jihad came before the Crusades*
jihad is an inner spiritual struggle
 Quoting: not_A_sheep


laugh

You have no clue, do you?
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