Who really were "The Watchers" from the Egyptian and Sumerian texts? | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An English translation from various languages of varying accuracy. No evidence of existence other than in ancient mythology, certainly no reason to believe it's a reference to aliens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12515488 Did I mention aliens? Nope. And yes, there is evidence of their existence. How could some uneducated people suddenly start building such a sophisticated buildings? The Egyptians claim they were instructed how to do so. Why would they lie? And if they lie, then where did that knowledge come from? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mosaic Book of Jubilees was originally called the Apocalypse of Moses as it was supposedly written by Moses while on Mount Sinai and dictated by a Watcher or angel. This book was intended as a history of the days of old and reveals the purpose of the Watchers: For in his days the angels of the Lord [Elohim - Shining Ones] descended upon the earth [came down from their mountain stronghold] - those who are named Watchers - that they should instruct the children of men, that they should do judgment and uprightness upon the earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72013476 Sweden 04/17/2016 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An English translation from various languages of varying accuracy. No evidence of existence other than in ancient mythology, certainly no reason to believe it's a reference to aliens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12515488 Did I mention aliens? Nope. And yes, there is evidence of their existence. How could some uneducated people suddenly start building such a sophisticated buildings? The Egyptians claim they were instructed how to do so. Why would they lie? And if they lie, then where did that knowledge come from? You underestimate the Intelligence of pur ancestors. Just because they did not have silicon based computers and diesel engines does not mean they could not figure out advanced geometric problems. Science waa most likely occult back then. This tradition is still in place in science. Scaring people with Greek letters etc to make it esoteric. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An English translation from various languages of varying accuracy. No evidence of existence other than in ancient mythology, certainly no reason to believe it's a reference to aliens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12515488 Did I mention aliens? Nope. And yes, there is evidence of their existence. How could some uneducated people suddenly start building such a sophisticated buildings? The Egyptians claim they were instructed how to do so. Why would they lie? And if they lie, then where did that knowledge come from? You underestimate the Intelligence of pur ancestors. Just because they did not have silicon based computers and diesel engines does not mean they could not figure out advanced geometric problems. Science waa most likely occult back then. This tradition is still in place in science. Scaring people with Greek letters etc to make it esoteric. I don't underestimate them. They say they received knowledge from the Watchers. You just ignore what they say and create your own story. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According Sitchin in The Wars of Gods and Men: They had come to Egypt, the Egyptians wrote, from Ta-Ur, the “Far/Foreign Land,” whose name Ur meant “oldest” but could also have been the actual place name - a place well known from Mesopotamian and biblical records: the ancient city of Ur. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first part of the apocryphal Book of Enoch expands and interprets Genesis 6:1: that the "sons of God" were a group of 200 "angels" called "Watchers", who descended to Earth to breed with humans. Their offspring are the Nephilim, "giants" who "consumed all the acquisitions of men". When humans could no longer sustain the Nephilim, they turned against humanity. The Watchers also instructed humans in metallurgy and metalworking, cosmetics, sorcery, astrology, astronomy, and meteorology. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "...'In the days of Jared', two hundred Watchers 'descended' on 'Ardis', the summit of Mount Hermon - a mythical location equated with the triple peak of Jebel esh Sheikh (9,200 feet), placed in the most northerly region of ancient Palestine. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Watchers The ancient astronaut theory and the teaching of theologians alike look to the prehistoric legend of Watchers (mysterious beings who first appeared in the early cultures of the Middle East) to discuss the Anunnaki (Sumerian Gods), Nephilim (giants referenced in Gen. 6.4), and the creation of mutant DNA following earth visitation by “gods.” We find: The Egyptians originally migrated from the biblical land of Shin’ar, which means the Land of the Watchers. The Egyptians called it Ta Neter—The Land of the Watchers “from which the gods came into Egypt.” In the Book of the Dead (Plates 7-10) there are prayers for deliverance from the Watchers (Tchatcha, the princes of Osiris), who came from Ta-Ur, the “Far Away Land.” The Sumerian scribes referred to the Watchers as Anunnaki, which, they said, “came from Nibiru” to judge/rule the inhabitants of the earth. Some interpret this Nibiru as “a distant planet” while others say it should be translated, “Those Who from Heaven to Earth Came.” The Bible refers to Nephilm, which also means those who came from Heaven to Earth.In the Book of Jubilees—AKA the Apocalypse of Moses—the Watchers are compared to supernatural beings mentioned in the sixth chapter of Genesis. The Apocryphal Book of Enoch associates the creatures of Genesis 6 with the Watchers:And I Enoch was blessing the Lord of majesty and the King of the ages, and lo! the Watchers called me—Enoch the scribe—and said to me:“Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness, go, declare to the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven, the holy eternal place, and have defiled themselves with women, and have done as the children of earth do, and have taken unto themselves wives: ‘Ye have wrought great destruction on the earth: And ye shall have no peace nor forgiveness of sin: and inasmuch as they delight themselves in their children, The murder of their beloved ones shall they see, and over the destruction of their children shall they lament, and shall make supplication unto eternity, but mercy and peace shall ye not attain.’” (1 Enoch 12.3-8) According to the Dead Sea Scrolls, only two hundred of this larger group of powerful beings called “Watchers” departed from the higher Heavens and sinned. Thus, Enoch refers to the Watchers in the High Heavens as separate from the ones on Earth. The fallen class of Watchers are considered by some to be the same creatures who in the Book of Jude are called the,“angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation…[and are] reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day” (King James Version, Jude 1.6). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72044023 Bulgaria 04/17/2016 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stitchen translations are shit he can't even tell the difference between aramaic and Hebrew Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19805409 You can at least write his name correctly. And it's not just Sitchin who translates the texts, so it doesn't matter. That's not the point. The point is that The Watchers are something real. The question is what exactly! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71951502 United States 04/17/2016 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short answer: In the Book Of Enoch, the "watchers" are indeed 200 fallen angels who mated with Earthly women and produced offspring called Nephilim.... who became the demons we still refer to today. The Watchers were eternally cursed even though Enoch himself appealed to God for their forgiveness. He damned them because of the evil they brought to man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71612733 United Kingdom 04/17/2016 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An English translation from various languages of varying accuracy. No evidence of existence other than in ancient mythology, certainly no reason to believe it's a reference to aliens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12515488 Did I mention aliens? Nope. And yes, there is evidence of their existence. How could some uneducated people suddenly start building such a sophisticated buildings? The Egyptians claim they were instructed how to do so. Why would they lie? And if they lie, then where did that knowledge come from? You underestimate the Intelligence of pur ancestors. Just because they did not have silicon based computers and diesel engines does not mean they could not figure out advanced geometric problems. Science waa most likely occult back then. This tradition is still in place in science. Scaring people with Greek letters etc to make it esoteric. From my understanding is the mathematics they figured out way back when. That's the thing about science eh, there's more than one route to a greater understanding. Advanced number crunching predictions don't really have limits, they could have known more than us, just without the means to take full advantage. Watchers sounds like astronomers to me. |
-VonAmoR- User ID: 70946067 United States 04/17/2016 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The top piece, the Voltair it is called, I think. If one were to "unroll" the sheet part, it would make the balanced cross pattee. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I suspect it a part of advanced circuits. Ejecting a form of magnetism. |