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The most accurate description of the illuminati Hierarchy ever available to the public

 
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Well shit. I dont know what to say after reading the OPs whole post.

I guess that just about wraps that up!

Whats next?
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Various high-level Satanists who have escaped from the Illuminati by God's power were eyewitnesses to Satan appearing at the Rothchilds. They testified they witnessed Satan showing up at the Rothchilds as a very beautiful man who can shape shift, (at times his feet would be cloven hoofs). He wears a black tuxedo to gamble and play cards (winnings are sexual victims) & a white tuxedo when present just to socialize.
 Quoting: ReptilianWatch


iamwith

Har har! Actually Satan is that kind of cool elegant eccentric who plays Poker with Monarch sex slaves! I mean woooa!
Wake up world!

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Various high-level Satanists who have escaped from the Illuminati by God's power were eyewitnesses to Satan appearing at the Rothchilds. They testified they witnessed Satan showing up at the Rothchilds as a very beautiful man who can shape shift, (at times his feet would be cloven hoofs). He wears a black tuxedo to gamble and play cards (winnings are sexual victims) & a white tuxedo when present just to socialize.


iamwith

Har har! Actually Satan is that kind of cool elegant eccentric who plays Poker with Monarch sex slaves! I mean woooa!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147920

If you've ever read stories about "elegant, eccentrics" over the ages, you might not find this very far fetched! lol!
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"Smoking cigarettes puts brown in the auric field. This is why when some people feel nervous they get the urge to smoke. Using brown in and through you diminishes, and can even negate, the urge to smoke. The this if you are a smoker."

So is that a good thing?

i would recommend american spirits personally since they are all organic and natural. that is what i smoke every once in a while.
 Quoting: not_A_sheep


I read somewhere that American Spirit tobacco is actually one of the highest in additives. I buy plain tobacco in a 1 lb. bag, just plain tobacco, for about $11. It lasts about a month or more. Now, the papers, I buy a box of 24 packs i think for $24.

Just buy clean tobacco and roll baby.
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no, theres ONLY 12 constellations- so therefore thou art bsflag
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THERE ARE ACTUALLY A LOT MORE CONSTELLATIONS THAN 12

ORION
ALPHA DRACONIS
URSA MAJOR

CASSIOPIA

TO NAME BUT A FEW.

SO

DOWN COME THE FLAG

GL
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once again, you've proven your stupidity and gullibility beyond any doubt.
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so many conflicting conspiracy theories, so little evidence of any.
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RW: Why dou you call this freaking insanity a "game" ?
What are we supposed to master ?

I WON'T play any games any more; why not ANNIHILATE the game makers and then let everybody leave for their Homeworlds for recovering and healing; you maybe you're right about this Illuminati stuff but don't support their insanity...unless you want to participate in their vicious games indefinitely...

Why did the fucking dracos install a Draconian system on a mammalian planet; that would be against the Prime Directive and all cosmic logic not letting the leading intelligent creatures (humans) create their own social structure based on sharing and co-operation!!!
F: THE DRACOS!!!
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swerdlow? icke?............wow now there are two credible sources lmao
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yah, more than 12 constellations- thats a given

for our use tho- theres 12

duh
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>>once again, you've proven your stupidity and gullibility beyond any doubt.<<

And once again, "Know One" the incredibly dark and stupid white cat that everyone hates and would like to broil alive in a microwave has shown up at the end of a thread to shit in the corner. Fuck you.

And once again, "Know One" the incredibly dark and stupid white cat that everyone hates and would like to broil alive in a microwave has shown up at the end of a thread to shit in the corner. Fuck you.

And once again, "Know One" the incredibly dark and stupid white cat that everyone hates and would like to broil alive in a microwave has shown up at the end of a thread to shit in the corner. Fuck you.
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Interesting post.

There are just a few things that caught my attention. The statements made in the post could be true for the most part, but it is sprinkled here and there with deception. (Not intentionally by the poster, though.)

One of Satan's favorite tricks is throwing out a lot of information, which when first processed it might seem correct, but molding the facts just a tad to either deceive or discredit those who might be a threat to him. Remember the temptation in Eden? "Has God indeed said, you shall not eat of every tree in the garden?" Notice the phrasing, he doesn't focus on the tree, but rather the entire garden, making Eve (and Adam) question if they really heard God correctly since all fruit-bearing trees in the garden except of the tree of knowledge were certainly their food supply.

If one acknowledges the existence of Satan (and yes, he does exist), then it would be extremely wise to also acknowledge the truth God has given us concerning him. Anyways..

Reptillians in the center of the earth. This is deception, but extremely well devised. "Reptillians" are not natural beings, but rather fallen angels, or demons - if you prefer. Now a hybrid, fallen-angel/human might be what some consider reptillians, but they would be demonic as well (Genesis 6)... and a hybrid could not shape-shift, but would be confined to the form they were born into. I make this statement out of reasoning.

A demon could appear as ANYTHING -
2 corinth 11:14 & 15 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Either way, I think the notion on a whole is a way for Satan to discredit believers, and hide the simple truth. I mean, where do we associate "that great dragon" with? Hell. Where is Hell tradiotionally located?

Again he uses it to get us to re-think what we know: if there is another race with these attributes, then there is a high likelyhood (as its presented) that Man was just a ignorant bigot who mislabled these natural creatures as demons - which don't exist. Satan's tried to cover up his posse for millenia with this one.

And the illuminati believes everything Lucifer feeds them; all their mysteries and their magicks are just elaborate hoax's that SEEM to be reality, when in fact they are just dealing with entities that exist in both our dimension and the unseen "spiritual" plane. One who isn't confined to this reality isn't confined by the natural laws (including time).

I apologize for the length of this post, and if it seems to be critical of the op.. you were on the right track, and you are searching for the truth, so I felt obligated as a fellow seeker to mention this. :) The amount of deception all over the world of information is insane, and GLP members need to know whats really occuring.

Matthew 24:37, "But as the days of Noah _were_, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Noah's small family was the only one left that didn't have any Fallen Angel genes. "Noah was pure in his *generation*." At the time of the flood, giants and demonic hybrid entities had gained control of the earth. The pre-flood earth is atlantis. The ancient pagan deities orignated with the fallen angels, they told the people they were visitors from the heavens (The sky gods, Planet X, etc.), they had special powers, they gave them advanced technology and were promptly worshipped.

Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which _were_ of old, men of renown."

Note "and also after that," which doesn't limit the occurence of hybrids to a specific number. More interesting though is the last bit, the mighty men of old, men of renown. This is a reference to what would today be considered mythicalogical heroes. One might be wondering how the stories were passed on if the earth's inhabitants were destroyed. The post-flood world could have had remnants of the previous culture, especially if they were stone structures, but this is just enough for humans to notice, not understand. It wasn't too long after the flood when fallen angels reappeared and started to revive old ideas and start instituting modern forms of worship.

I am beginning to wonder if one of the pyramids at Giza wasn't left by the antidiluvians - the water would obscure the carbon dating.

Anyways, to summerize, Satan is clever but he uses the same strategy again and again because humans are stupid. E.T.'s will come down and explain the ancient mysteries and bring the world into a new level of consciousness - just like they did in the days of Lot and Noah.

Don't be decieved people. God exists, His name is Jesus Christ. The Godhead is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as one. Jesus Christ died sinless on the cross as humanity's ransom, rising on the 3rd day proving that the curse of sin had been broken (ascending to heaven 40 days later). Accepting that Jesus is God and was the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world allows one to partake of the Holy Spirit, who is the revealer of truth.

I apologize to those who think I'm bible thumping or whatever, but 99% of GLP users are searching for truth, and wow is the water ever murky.

The illuminati does indeed exist, but their influence doesn't need to be direct since they have Lucifer's minions re-inforcing their plans. (They think they thought of everything, obviously.)

Remember, we are children of God, not some offspring of E.T. manipulated goop: the fallen angels are extremely jealous of us. BE careful.

Satan repeats himself. Take heed of the one of Lucifer's first recorded deceptions: "..you will be like God.." We are not Gods, for Gods do not exist - let our lust for power does. When he comes, he will promise such power.

God Bless guys.
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Opps, a typo near the end. I apologize. It should say this:


Satan repeats himself. Take heed of the one of Lucifer's first recorded deceptions: "..you will be like God.." We are not Gods, for Gods do not exist - yet our lust for power does. When he comes, he will promise such power.

let does not = yet haha sorry everyone.
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stewart swerdlow has some interesting info
wonder where he learned it all ?

thumbs up
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i dont trust the shapesifting reptile side of icke's story... a disinfo artist will always mix bullshit with lots of truth.

the basics of this post sounds on point, even the inner earth beings... but i just dont think they are reptiles; i can even imagine shapeshifting, but i just dont trust that theory. why should i trust an illuminati newreporter(icke) living just moments away from the tavistock institute?

not downplaying your post at all. instead of true reptiles, i lean more towards reptile-like beings, minus the dimensional shapeshifting.

i come to believe the alleged reptiles are very old and technologically advanced lifeforms; but who care's about symantics, we gotta get the vatican out the way before any truth is revealed.
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According to East Indian concepts, notably the Sikh traditions, God's creation is divided into subdivions, the lowest of which is Pinda, which is the division we find ourselves in.

We are in the higher realms of Pinda, just below the astral level which is the 'heaven' of Pinda, if I'm remembering correctly, therefore there are 'hells' beneath us.

That said, our Earth will never be completely free from these influences which OP posts about, unless the ascension many speak of is an accurate representation of our beloved planets' future.

I am not bothered by the fact that this planet is currently controlled by a dark brotherhood, because in truth it is not. The highest of the high controls all things and if one focuses on a path leading toward our Creator then these evildoers can do us no harm.

We are in a cycle where their actions are at the forefront of the cause and effect laws and in an effort not to be affected by this one should follow their intuition implicitly, breathing through anger emotions, desiring nothing but truth and love (can you recognize these?) and float like a duck on water (a popular Buddist concept).

In truth, it is interesting to see the drama play out from a scholarly perspective, but difficult to see the pain inflicted by their plans, Katrina's victims as an example, or Iraqi civilians.
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In the 1850s, they pinpointed their target date for complete domination with an agenda called Plan 2000. This has since been revised to 2003.
 Quoting: ReptilianWatch


Their Plan 2000 and Plan 2003 have utterly failed.

Their population reduction methods have failed. World population is approaching 7 billion.

These wanna-be Gods are losers.
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Present all the facts, evidence and documentation for all this giberish, otherwise, you are an idiot. jerkit
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Precisely.

Besides, the solution is the same.

Just go about your business.
to herd or not to herd
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Interesting post.

There are just a few things that caught my attention. The statements made in the post could be true for the most part, but it is sprinkled here and there with deception. (Not intentionally by the poster, though.)

One of Satan's favorite tricks is throwing out a lot of information, which when first processed it might seem correct, but molding the facts just a tad to either deceive or discredit those who might be a threat to him. Remember the temptation in Eden? "Has God indeed said, you shall not eat of every tree in the garden?" Notice the phrasing, he doesn't focus on the tree, but rather the entire garden, making Eve (and Adam) question if they really heard God correctly since all fruit-bearing trees in the garden except of the tree of knowledge were certainly their food supply.

If one acknowledges the existence of Satan (and yes, he does exist), then it would be extremely wise to also acknowledge the truth God has given us concerning him. Anyways..

Reptillians in the center of the earth. This is deception, but extremely well devised. "Reptillians" are not natural beings, but rather fallen angels, or demons - if you prefer. Now a hybrid, fallen-angel/human might be what some consider reptillians, but they would be demonic as well (Genesis 6)... and a hybrid could not shape-shift, but would be confined to the form they were born into. I make this statement out of reasoning.

A demon could appear as ANYTHING -
2 corinth 11:14 & 15 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Either way, I think the notion on a whole is a way for Satan to discredit believers, and hide the simple truth. I mean, where do we associate "that great dragon" with? Hell. Where is Hell tradiotionally located?

Again he uses it to get us to re-think what we know: if there is another race with these attributes, then there is a high likelyhood (as its presented) that Man was just a ignorant bigot who mislabled these natural creatures as demons - which don't exist. Satan's tried to cover up his posse for millenia with this one.

And the illuminati believes everything Lucifer feeds them; all their mysteries and their magicks are just elaborate hoax's that SEEM to be reality, when in fact they are just dealing with entities that exist in both our dimension and the unseen "spiritual" plane. One who isn't confined to this reality isn't confined by the natural laws (including time).

I apologize for the length of this post, and if it seems to be critical of the op.. you were on the right track, and you are searching for the truth, so I felt obligated as a fellow seeker to mention this. :) The amount of deception all over the world of information is insane, and GLP members need to know whats really occuring.

Matthew 24:37, "But as the days of Noah _were_, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Noah's small family was the only one left that didn't have any Fallen Angel genes. "Noah was pure in his *generation*." At the time of the flood, giants and demonic hybrid entities had gained control of the earth. The pre-flood earth is atlantis. The ancient pagan deities orignated with the fallen angels, they told the people they were visitors from the heavens (The sky gods, Planet X, etc.), they had special powers, they gave them advanced technology and were promptly worshipped.

Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which _were_ of old, men of renown."

Note "and also after that," which doesn't limit the occurence of hybrids to a specific number. More interesting though is the last bit, the mighty men of old, men of renown. This is a reference to what would today be considered mythicalogical heroes. One might be wondering how the stories were passed on if the earth's inhabitants were destroyed. The post-flood world could have had remnants of the previous culture, especially if they were stone structures, but this is just enough for humans to notice, not understand. It wasn't too long after the flood when fallen angels reappeared and started to revive old ideas and start instituting modern forms of worship.

I am beginning to wonder if one of the pyramids at Giza wasn't left by the antidiluvians - the water would obscure the carbon dating.

Anyways, to summerize, Satan is clever but he uses the same strategy again and again because humans are stupid. E.T.'s will come down and explain the ancient mysteries and bring the world into a new level of consciousness - just like they did in the days of Lot and Noah.

Don't be decieved people. God exists, His name is Jesus Christ. The Godhead is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as one. Jesus Christ died sinless on the cross as humanity's ransom, rising on the 3rd day proving that the curse of sin had been broken (ascending to heaven 40 days later). Accepting that Jesus is God and was the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world allows one to partake of the Holy Spirit, who is the revealer of truth.

I apologize to those who think I'm bible thumping or whatever, but 99% of GLP users are searching for truth, and wow is the water ever murky.

The illuminati does indeed exist, but their influence doesn't need to be direct since they have Lucifer's minions re-inforcing their plans. (They think they thought of everything, obviously.)

Remember, we are children of God, not some offspring of E.T. manipulated goop: the fallen angels are extremely jealous of us. BE careful.

Satan repeats himself. Take heed of the one of Lucifer's first recorded deceptions: "..you will be like God.." We are not Gods, for Gods do not exist - let our lust for power does. When he comes, he will promise such power.

God Bless guys.
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Thank you!

Another one who has found the truth!

God bless you.
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IMO...the OP is still just scraping the surface of the "mystery"... while what you reveal about the illumanadi may (or not) be true...it is not the organization that "rules" the world...and most of these "sub groups" are not aware that they are also being minipulated by a group - of shall we call them "planners"

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These planners are not evil men, they had the best interest of mankind at heart when they organized in the years right after WWII and sought to temper the self centered, self serving designs of the "royals"

While these "planners" exists as an elite organization, is made up of men and women that do not conform to one belief system. The spiritual beliefs of their members are not used as criteria to acquire membership. What’s important is a member’s personal network of contacts

They are not religious in any sense of the word they are not occultists or Satan worshippers as they are sometimes accused. Again, this is conspiracy theory run amok, usually by those who seek to define enemies that can embody Lucifer, which in their mind is synonymous with the occult.

Yes, they have influence, as do the Masons, and Skull and Bones, and twenty-seven other organizations that make up this loose-knit network of the elite, but the people who control the master plan are not directly affiliated with any one of these thirty organizations.


The reality is that these lesser organizations really operate in one of three forces that do have alignment under the controlling hand of the "planners"

The "planners" don’t dictate to the other two forces. It strategically releases information that lures the two forces in the direction it wants them to go.

You can look at these three forces as part of an equilateral triangle, with the Planners at the apex, and the Global Military Force at one base and the Isolationist Force at the other. This is the real structure of global power.

The Planners are concerned with the globalization of monetary channels and vital supplies like petroleum and natural gas; the Military Force is concerned with spreading and preserving democratization throughout the globe, and in so doing, protecting the self-interests of the dominant superpowers of America and Western Europe; and the Isolationist Force is focused on industry and wealth building for its citizens at the state level.

Following the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam had depleted a good deal of his country’s wealth, and to be sure, he was interested in the wealth production of Kuwait, but he also knew that his military was not designed to invade and annex countries, and he was aware that the superpowers would protect their interests in Kuwait.


Saddam had a real dilemma, he had upwards of a million soldiers that were without jobs after the Iran-Iraq War and there was no place within Iraq’s broader economy to absorb these men. The Military Force was aware of Saddam’s dilemma, and, through a consistent disinformation campaign by the Military Force, Saddam was led to believe that he would be allowed to invade Kuwait without superpower retaliation.


There are high level operatives within the Military Force that are also the eyes and ears of the Planners. It was believed globally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that it had developed during the course of its war with Iran. The Military Force saw this as a destabilizing element of its long-term policy to bring democracy – American-style – to the oil-producing region.


The Planners do not have control of the Middle East oil. It is the only vital asset in which they do not exercise prime authority. Saddam Hussein was seduced by disinformation to attack Kuwait so that the Military Force could – with the whole world looking on – dismantle Iraq’s defenses. This was a staged event of global impact exercised by the Planners and carried out by the Military Force completely unaware that they were being lured into this conflict in the same way as Iraq.

The Planners want to control crude oil production. They want to exercise authority over this critical asset that is so fundamental to shaping world economies. They have controls over refining and the distribution of end products, but they lack control over the production, particularly in the Middle East. This is the fundamental goal, but it’s surrounded by the tributary objectives of bringing a Western culture to the region and slowly, but surely, homogenizing the world’s culture. They want this global culture as a framework in which to create global regulation.”
They need the ability to regulate the vital resources of the planet as a singular, global political body.


The diminishing oil and natural gas supplies. These are non-renewable energy sources, and what required a billion years to create 3.2 trillion barrels of useable oil has taken 110 years to reduce to 1.8 trillion barrels. The planet’s oil supply is its economic lifeblood. As this diminishes, so does the economic system in which the world’s people live. As the economic conditions erode, instability arises, and if left unchecked, chaos ensues.

Anyone who knows the condition of the world’s oil supply can perform simple extrapolations and conclude that the world is approximately 40 years away from oil depletion, and that assumes you use the more optimistic analyses. On the pessimistic side, it could be as little as 15 years.


There are many versions of this story that circulate in the media, but they never quite capture the attention of the mass media and the masses because they deal with the distant future – a topic not held in high regard by citizens in love with their Western lifestyles. Nevertheless, this future is precisely where the Planners place their focus because this is what determines the tactics of the present day.


The depletion of the world’s oil supply, coupled to the growth in human population, is the dominant influence that is shaping the policies of the Planners and thier timetable.


At the highest levels of the Planners, the planning horizons are typically twenty to one hundred years, depending on the issue. They are well aware that as the oil supplies diminish, oil will become increasingly more difficult to extract from the planet’s reservoirs, and consequently, require at minimum, a thirty percent delta in refining costs. This will have a profound effect on price, which can have the effect of producing a persistent recession in the world’s economy.


The planners believe that by consolidating control of the oil supply and its distribution is the best way to impose rationing at a global level without setting off Armageddon.


This is the fundamental problem that the world must address in the 21st century. The brightest minds of our planet are well aware of this and have known this for 30 years or more.

There’re several alternative energy sources that are under consideration – some are not even released to the public at this time because they stem from technologies that also carry great potential as weapons.

But the bigger issue is how to change the energy system of our modern-day civilization from petroleum to a new energy source, or perhaps to change the manner in which we live – in other words, our oil dependent lifestyle.


Machiavelli wrote, ‘There is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than the creation of a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old system and merely lukewarm defenders in those who would gain by the new one’.

We the citizens of the world have no choice, this is the realism of the next fifty years

***this chaos (Armageddon) is defined as the chaos of humanity. It is the time when humanity plunges into chaos and the interfaces of global commerce, communication, and diplomacy are destroyed in favor of national self-preservation. If this were to happen, weapons of unusual power could be used to destroy thirty percent or more of the human population.***

This agenda, to avoid Armageddon is unique to the Planners because they’re the only organization that is focused squarely on averting this particular crisis condition based on the convergence criteria stated above


Every nation’s leadership is concerned about these issues, but it’s by no means the focus of their agenda. It is a small, compartmentalized component of their agenda.

The threats to the human race are both real and persistent, and with each passing decade the conditions are only growing more fertile for fragmentation and chaos – the very kind you would observe in tribal warfare. There is no fundamental difference.”

The Military Force know nothing about this objective. They have their own agenda, which is related, but quite different as well. They don’t aspire to regulate oil production; they intend to defend its availability and influence its price as a result. They’re not concerned with globalization as it relates to economic or cultural platforms, but rather, they’re concerned with exporting democracy in order to ensure stabilization in the region, and eradicate instability in the form of terrorists and dictators alike.

The Military Force is not the same thing as the military. While it is very pro-military, it operates in a longer planning horizon than military personnel. The Military Force is made up of high-level politicians, business people, intelligence members, academics, think tanks, and so on. Its members are from the United Kingdom, America, Germany, Canada, Australia, Israel, and many other countries. Its cohesion, as a group, is not so much a function of formal structure and meetings, but rather it’s by publishing classified papers that are shared among its elite members. These papers define the platform, goals, long-term objectives, and essentially map out the strategy and tactics by which the Military Force intends to execute its plan.

The Military Force is working on hybrid defensive and offensive weapons that relate to space, bio-weapons, the Internet, and other environments that are as yet not viewed as battlefield arenas. They would contend that R & D budgets should be increased in order to develop these new weapons in order to secure the rights of free people to live without fear of preemptive attack. They intend to remove this reality from the face of the earth and at the same time, propagate democracy.

Their goals are not necessarily misguided, but their methods to achieve these goals are. This is all about projecting power, and, as a consequence, dictating the prevailing political platform by which the world achieves peace. It is enforced peace. It is peace through power and manipulation

Do not think that the Military and Isolationist Forces are formal groups that have memberships and party platforms. They are informal, tacit coalitions at most, and they operate through the well-placed leadership of the Planner's operatives. Also, it is important to remember that they’re all part of the triad of leadership that the Planners have forged over the last 67 years.

In the case of the Isolationist Force, it’s the least organized of the three forces. It’s designed to spur economic policies and activities that generate wealth for the elite class throughout the world. As a force it is concerned with domestic state issues that drive economic growth and vitality. Its focus is to influence local, state and national governments to facilitate commerce.”

These three forces are not affiliated with any party or political organization. Someone can be aligned with both the Military and Isolationist Force and not have any conflict doing so. They are not antagonistic. They’re compatible forces. Also, these forces are not exclusively American. They are global forces – albeit with dominance from American and European interests, but they’re not party affiliations like democrats and republicans, nor are they state-sponsored in any way

The Planners are experts at influence through financial services and legal maneuvering. They will assert their influence slowly, gradually, and in a manner that will catch the royal families and cartel by surprise. Their patience is unmatched, and they operate on multiple levels of influence, which is why they win nearly every time.

Even at the present time many of the royal families exert influence in domestic affairs, but not oil production. They reap the rewards of the oil financially, but others within their regimes are truly operating the production and interacting with the cartel, developing the core relationships of trust and influence. These are the ones that the Planners bring into their fold, and slowly win over as operatives in their plan. The Military Force, at the appropriate timetable, will overturn the regimes in conflict with the plan, and those regimes that are friendly, will be allowed to retain their domestic presence and influence. These are carefully orchestrated events.

Once the Planners have control over oil production, they will dismantle hard currency. The Planners desires to have an electronic currency because it tracks everything and enables a more thorough analytical insight into the affairs of the individual.

They want to observe patterns and manipulate events in order to protect their dominance as a leadership body, and they want to define the new systems and manage system change. Once this dominance is perceived as reaching a critical mass, the Planners will create a global body of governance that brings stability to Earth and a set of policies that aid humanity at large.

There will be a gradual de-valuation of the stock markets worldwide. Americans in particular have become accustomed to easy money production within the stock markets, as well as lavish lifestyles. This will not be permitted to continue indefinitely. Recessions will occur in waves until the value of currency is called into question.

This will begin in third world countries first, and as these become the initial victims of feeble economic policies, the Planners will essentially force these countries to sell their assets at rock bottom prices in return for helping them out of economic crisis.

In the best of times, the world economy is a fragile patchwork of economic systems that run at different rates without a smooth interface or a macro system in which to operate. In the worst of times, it is a house of cards vulnerable to the faintest of winds. Hard currency and the monetary system that supports it will become a scapegoat of the economic slowdown, and electronic currency will increasingly become the solution to the general malaise of the global economy.

TOP (triad of power) is a reality on earth, and it probably will be for many years to come, and it’s certainly in the best position to dominate world affairs and development, but there are other powers that can intervene and bring fresh opportunity to the world’s people.

For example the rise of personal computers and the Internet was never intended to occur according to the Planners. It was one of the developments that genuinely surprised the members of this group and proves to be a very vexing issue. Computing power was supposed to remain in the hands of the elite. The Internet grew organically and at a pace that no one thought possible, and it caught the Planners completely off guard.”

The single greatest weakness of the Planners is thier lack of scientific expertise within the ranks of its leadership. While it has technical and scientific members in special projects within the Global Military Industrial Complex, they are not leaders, and it is the leadership of the Planners that establishes its agenda.

All of this is kept secret by entire departments within our government that have responsibility for this. It’s a very well engineered process that includes legal contracts, clear penalty reminders, and known deterrence factors that include very invasive technologies. In the worst case, if vital information was disclosed, a different but related department would step in that would masterfully spread disinformation. It was, and still is, virtually impossible to bring this information to the public.

There is nothing more vilified in these undisclosed organizations than traitors. The entire organizational culture was designed to reward loyalty and severely punish disloyalty in any form.

There are forces that truly believe in good and evil. In their view, countries – like people – are essentially cast into three categories: good, neutral, and evil. Those that are good must dominate the world political structures and ensure that those that are evil are identified and reduced to a non-threat status.

When power is concentrated in a single person, and that country or organization develops long range missile technology, it immediately becomes a target for concern within the intelligence community.

The perceived enemy is missile technology in the hands of a concentrated power. There are many, many countries that have this technology so it ensures distrust.

Organizations like the U.N. (United Nations) are not sufficiently empowered to deal with these threats, so multilateral coalitions are developed between nations to deal with the perceived threats, often completely undisclosed to the public.


Iraq is a perfect example. North Korea is another, but it lacks the strategic geography to place it on the top of the list. So, geography also plays a central role in this assessment.

Whoever exerts the greatest global leadership in terms of projecting military force, economic vibrancy, and foreign policy makes this determination. And it is certainly subjective, but it’s precisely why the U.S. has adopted its imperialist attitude. It wants to define good and evil for the world, and in so doing, it can more effectively export its own definition of peace and democracy.

It’s a natural outgrowth of how a state engineers its power. The state requires its enemies in order to convince its citizens to accept its authority over their lives. The greater the fear the state is able to provoke in the hearts and minds of its citizens, the more power its citizens are willing to give to it in order to protect them from its enemies. All states, to varying degrees, do this.

The U.S. has potential adversaries in many parts of the world. Its policy of military presence as a global protector is all that’s required to create enemies. Its forceful export of its political belief system is also troublesome to many countries that see American interests as a prelude to cultural colonization.

Because the U.S. has a global military presence and economic lever that it wields with relative virtuosity. It is skillful at aggression without appearing aggressive. It protects and defends, and sometimes it will do this in a pre-emptive strike and sometimes in a reactive countermeasure that is usually at a force response that is several fold the original intensity. America’s self interests have become the standard of the free world, and there are those who fear it will dominate to the point of imperialism.

The Planners use the U.S. as a force for globalization. It is the lead horse pulling the nation states of the globe into a common economic and political platform.


It’s a carefully orchestrated process. The planning is deep, penetrating, and exhaustive. It is not flawless nor is it carried out with perfect precision. Nonetheless there is certainly a plan and it’s executed by the triad of power.

There are serious flaws within the global economy, and the United States has begun to express these flaws in ways that ripple through the globe and cause financial unrest. The best way to ensure that these flaws are controlled is to tighten corporate loopholes that allow greedy executives to exploit their shareholders, and to seize control over the price of oil.

The Planner's leadership is not comprised of greedy executives. It is made up of anonymous individuals. They are not sitting on corporate boards. They are not the Bill Gates of corporate America, nor are they the Bluebloods of European royalty. They are anonymous, and through their anonymity they wield great power. They are the strategists of the triad of power who plot and plan at such a level as to make corporate executives and politicians seem like preschoolers fumbling to hold a pencil.

They are very different. They produce globalization and uniform economic and political platforms, while we produce breakthrough technologies. They practice hegemony, while we practice science.

The Planners are multi-tiered, they produce ideas and frameworks that produce the right conditions for the think tanks and other forces of the elite power base to exert influence. It is a very complicated process.

They desire a paperless currency coupled to a global leadership, and to carry this out they require a restructuring – or perhaps more precisely, a complete reengineering of resource and power sharing.

The plan requires new leadership in the Arab states. There is general concern that the Arab states will consolidate much like Europe is in the process of doing, and new superpowers will be created out of this consolidation. Multiple superpowers make consolidation of the global economic platform a thorny proposition.

Because of its natural aggression as a superpower, the United States is the spearhead of the Planners to usher in the required changes of their plan. It will be positioned to exert a strong military and cultural presence in the Middle East and Asia. Partly for oil considerations and partly for the purpose of gradually westernizing the indigenous cultures.

The U.S. protects and defends because it can establish military bases in those regions after it is done defending. Agreements are made – sometimes without the public’s knowledge – to have military bases and protective forces therein for domestic peace issues and normalization. The U.S. has over 170 military bases on foreign soil. This number will continue to grow as dictated by this plan.

In regard to the export of culture, the U.S. is not alone, but it leads the way through its capitalistic leverage of pop culture. No one does this as well as American corporations. They have set the world standard for monetizing content and brands. Other countries mimic this standard and add their weight. Collectively, the culture of capitalism reaches the Arab nations, China, North Korea, Southeast Asia, and the people of these countries – especially the new generations – are seduced by its allure.

The plan is rooted in the success of the United States to secure unilateral superpower status by the turn of the century. The U.S. will, as a result, be required to assert itself because there will be many challengers and discreditors. However, in this process, it will increase its worldwide presence as the leader of the free world. This is the goal that many throughout the world hold dear to their heart, whether they voice this sentiment or not.

Any nation would do the same thing if given the opportunity. The United States is relentlessly aggressive in all the important dimensions: military, culture, capitalism, applied technology, foreign policy, space, economic policy, and intelligentsia, to name the most critical areas.

In Nature, the alpha male dominates through strength, cunning, and aggression. It is no different in the world of humans and statehood. The alpha male also has a responsibility for protection and sustenance. And the planners selected the U.S. as being the most suitable country to lead the pack of other nations to the global platforms it has designed and is readying.

There are, no guarantees, but they don’t miscalculate very often, and when they do, they adjust to the changes presented them. Again, the planners, the real architects behind these events, are not interested in being the leaders of earth in terms of visibility. They want to appoint the leadership while giving the world a sense of choice.

They are convinced that consolidation of power – at a global level – is necessary in order to prevent planetary destruction or Armageddon.

There are many decay forces that can take hold of a planet and cause its decline as a supportive living environment. In our interactions with extraterrestrials, this is a common theme that is expressed because this condition frequently accompanies the rise of post-modern civilizations.

Human populations fragment across a planet, developing their unique cultures, language, economic systems, and state identities. Certain states have the good fortune of natural resources and some do not. As these natural resources of the planet are converted into commercial advantage, some states flourish economically and some flounder.

As the stronger states begin to dominate the weaker, military forces and weapons are created. Applied technology becomes the ultimate weapon. If multiple super powers are allowed to develop they can bring destruction to the human populations of the planet. If population densities reach a critical level, it can have the same devastating effects.

The human residents increasingly bring the planet under pressure. If left unchecked, the planet can reach a critical stage of destruction whereby human populations no longer find the planet a suitable habitat.

The Planner's leaders are very clear about the threats that earth will undergo in the 21st century. They believe their orchestration of human events better serves the human population than to leave it to the forces of competitive politics. They genuinely believe that the self-interests of the states will prevent a consolidation of global power.

Because the threats that will confront the human population in the 21st century will be global issues – whether they are intractable recessions, dwindling oil supplies, food distribution, overpopulation, pollution, nuclear fallout, or extraterrestrial visitations, they will require a global, coordinated response. Unless the nations of the world are united, they will respond too slowly to the threats, and the decay forces will have such traction that they may be impossible to reverse.

The issues are not confronted in the United Nations, even if they’re discussed and debated. Resolutions are designed to help remedy the problems, but ultimately it depends upon the will of the individual state to implement, monitor, report, analyze results, and make adjustments, and this is not enforced in any reasonable manner.

A world government, to be effective, will require the ability to enforce and adjust resolutions based on sound analysis. Otherwise these threats will arise and the world’s people will not be able to speak with a single voice, and more importantly, to act as a unified force against threats.

Greed is alive and well within the ranks of the sub groups of the TOP but the Planners – the people who have the real grip on power don’t operate out of greed. They have assets that are beyond the imagination of even wealthy people. The acquisition of wealth is completed for them.

The Planners are concerned with securing humanity’s future, rather than generating wealth for themselves.
Like any undisclosed organization is composed of multiple levels, operatives at the lower levels function within a set of rules and norms that do not apply to the higher levels. In other words, Planners operate in a completely different organizational culture. There is a sophistication and penetrating insight at the highest levels that are not existent at the operations level.

Planners within the TOP are of a special character and they feel a genuine responsibility to manage the global affairs of humanity. They are most certainly better equipped than heads of state to perform this function, and so they compose and orchestrate world events instead of merely participating in their unfolding.

Over time, this role has made them very responsible and even paternalistic to humanity as a whole. They’re not motivated by greed, as are many others within the broader Triad of Power, but they earnestly desire to save the planet. They are like captains of a ship that know where the dangers lie in the waters below and steer quietly away because they do not want to go down with the ship.

They operate outside of our system. They cannot be tracked or identified. If they were to be hit by a car and sent to a hospital, they would have diplomatic papers and immunity. They would not have any record of existence outside of this. And even if their identity were researched, it would lead to a fabricated identity.

They are human. In most cases they’re groomed for their positions from an early age. When they reach their early twenties they’re typically brought into a direct mentorship with one of the planners and a very specific succession process is begun, which usually lasts for about ten years. When the person is in his mid-twenties his loyalty is tested in every conceivable manner over the next five years. If he passes these tests, he is allowed to preview the inner workings of the group. For most, this is near their thirty-third birthday.

At this point, a new identity is transferred to the person and they die – quite literally – so far as their family and friends are concerned. These deaths are arranged as covers for their new identities and usually involve drowning or a fire accident, where physical evidence is minimal. Prior to their arranged death, insurance policies, if they exist, are cancelled to ensure minimal investigation, and usually the death is staged during a trip to a specific third-world country where police investigators are more easily controlled.

After their death event, the new planner is inducted in a secret ceremony. This inner circle becomes the surrogate family for the new planner, and as they develop in their skills, insights, intuition, and knowledge base, they develop a very protective sensibility to the longstanding goals and objectives of the Planners.

The planners are not married. It’s frowned on. It is one of the tests that they undergo in their mid-twenties. No one is asked to be celibate, but the role of the planner is all consuming. It requires minimal distractions and commitments outside of their role as planners. It’s a sacrifice and it heightens loyalty within the circle of planners

There are only five to eight planners at any one time. Five is the core number, but there are usually two or three in training as well, but these do not have voting powers. It is a very small number. Candidates are identified early on – usually when the person is a teenager They are, with rare exception, identified as a result of their genetics.

It’s a result of extensive tracking of lineages and genetic traits – including mutations. This is something that is well understood by the members, and is given a significant amount of time and investment. Genetic candidates are identified and observed over a period of about three years before any contact is made
About fifty are tracked, but out of every generation only two or three are chosen. Those that aren’t chosen don’t even know they were passed over.

The group came to its power as a result of the inefficiencies of the intelligence community to gather information and position its strategic value relative to the long-term crises that were forming on the horizon as they pertained to the global economy.

Shortly after the second World War, many nations, including the United States, restructured or initiated their intelligence organizations – particularly as it related to foreign policy intelligence gathering.

However, these organizations were still locked into the cold war mentality and didn’t formally share intelligence as a result. The Planners arose out of a need to consolidate global intelligence as the best means to strategically maneuver the nation states to a unified platform of commerce.

There were five men that started it, but one sparked the vision.

The power they wield is directed at the survival of humanity. They’re not evil in the sense that they’re intent on destroying earth or humanity. They’re trying to guide humanity to new systems before the old systems decay and create the conditions that could bring annihilation to a substantial percentage of the species.

The choices of a fragmented state leadership or anarchy are not suitable systems for modern, civilized man. They invariably lead to imbalance and an inability to move from the old system to the new system. Before the advent of long-range missile technology, nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, this migration of the human race from one system to another was not as critical. But the chasm that exists between systems as complex as economies and energy, and in light of modern weapon’s technology, the Incunabula serve a vital role.

It is presumed they believe in a higher power. Perhaps they don’t call it God because of the religious overtones contained in that word, but they certainly are aware of a unification force. They believe in this unifying intelligence, and if you asked them, they would tell you that they’re guided and perhaps even inspired by this intelligent force. They may call it God or some other name. But they are believers in what some would call the unification force.
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here's a clue for you - all hierarchal systems are Illuminati. They invented it. Hierarchies are fundamentally built into our civilization.



Although we occasionally speak of the Woo Woo hivemind control, no node is more important than others. (viz Eisenstien and reference frames). All Woos are equally Woo.

Think about it.
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167381, got a link?

IMHO this is pure disinfo.
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THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO ONCE AGAIN ....

ALSO CHIPTRUTH DID CHIP OFF SOME TRUTH HERE TO SHARE >>>>

IT BEARS REPEATING !! applause2





what -- all that cool exposure stuff and
then you descend to calling someone A MINDLESS TWAT?

that just makes you look like a proud, male chauvanist pig, like the people you are talking about. i mean, fawn's sort of lame, but it's what you SAY.

i mean, i am just pointing out
that male chauvanist pig attitude
will never save us from male chauvanist pig attitude
no matter HOW hard it comes across about the illuminati.

but you, you got that finger up. what a 'rebel.'

but yeah. that is annoying when someone asks you to translate the translation. i might have had a dumb question too. mine was: what do you do about it?

if your answer is "nothing" or "prepare to die" once again it makes me wonder - why are you posting this ? no way you are one of them, gloating.


but what do people do about it? some people think that life is just gonna get worse and worse as they complete their centuries old stranglehold.

i am GLAD that i was reading Robert A. Wilson in the 1980s. I feel SORRY for a lot of the people who said all talk of the Illuminati was bullshit back in the eighties. I feel sorry for them now, i felt sorry for them then. I feel like they are missing out on the best part of life -- and also now it is getting obvious.



but i have learned to be wary of things that claim to be "the best" -- especially since i have read Myron Fagan's expose of 'les Illuminaires'.

Fagan's expose goes into different details. Instead of focusing on bio-science details -- still utterly important if people are to be free one day -- it discusses the what they have done -- of it all.

Myron Fagan may not have had any awareness of extraterrestrials, history of centuries past -- instead he talks about the Comittee for Foriegn Relations and the generations of secret manipulation of huge bunches of people.


all and all the big divider is -- who will come up with ways to oppose T. H. E. M. ("Total Human Elimination Movement") that will be different than the failed plans of the past? Like all the pathetically sad "anarchosocialists" who really refuse to accept that they are being manipulated by a philosophy that HATES them for desiring to be free and wishes to twist their efforts right back into serving world Fascist/statist interests?


you see them on news reports. they are always the ones rushing to get beaten down and peppersprayed, and emma goldman was cooler than all of them when Johnny Rotten was daddy's twinkle.

will people come up with NEW innovations to stop this Draconian domination of the world, or will they rule forever? stupidly, cruelly, deceitfully, lying compulsively and using an old bunch of mental tricks to stop ANYONE who NOTICES them?

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as a Nichiren Shoshu practitioner I am VERY HAPPY to see the use of scalar weapons by Japanese nationals discussed in exactly this context. There are many connecting threads through out cyberspace which suggest a connection between Shoko Asahara, the misguided and weird leader of AumShinrikyo, Scientology and mind control devices and the scalar technology. Aum Shinrikyo famously had a noted scientist in the area of scalar fields -- the area that Tesla broke ground in and with -- assasinated by a Yakuza member in broad daylight recently. (for another thread.)

Nichiren's philosophy was the soul of compassion and peacefulness. In his life he was detested by people of the Church AND State for preaching peaceful existance -- making Japan a empire by the katana was the order of the day in the 1200s, and Daishonen Nichiren not only debated loudly against that sort of dominion but preached a different "way of life" and made many converts. This bothered Government in Japan's feudal past.

He predicted that after his death, people would come and spread lies and perversions of the philosophy he began which is known for repeating myo ho renge kyo.
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i am really GLAD to be a Buddhist as i read this. not so much proud as just glad! the description of the so called "Draco" illuminati is EXACTLY the same designation the Aryan philosophy -- which even though it started in North India extended it's power to rule ALL of Asia -- hence we get a word -- the "Atman" (Ottoman) Empire -- that description of the Japanese people as working slaves is the same as the Aryan description of the so called - lowest caste of human beings.


Aryan philosophy started, according to paleonotolgists and archaeologists -0- in the 1400s B. C. E. in the north of the Indian SubContinent in places then called Mohenjo Daro and Harappa in what are now considered Pakistan and North India. Legends abound of "serpent divinities" and serpents are STILL worshipped there. The philosophy of caste was opposed in recent years by Nehru, MK Ghandi and Ambedkar.


Buddhism first appeared as a rejection of the Aryan "virtues" and idea of "righteousness" -0- and that has been gradually erased bit by bit over the centuries (the sound of people trying to get their slaves back.)

Legends of magical "controllers" in the legends and tales of ancient Asia today are parallelled by talk of "mind control" in the modern world. some things have changed but some are the same -- many many people working to keep a very few rich.


in such a way we can see the pyramid-eye metaphor yet again -- the capstone being those who rule -- the rest of the bricks being all the rest of the human biomass of earth.


what will happen? how will this change? how will Human Enlightenment supplant the dominion of Illuminist tyrants?

The Original Buddha is key in this -- and for this reason, he, like whatever "Christ" is in the west, has been rewritten about, conjectured about...
 Quoting: chiptruth

<<< !! VIVE LA RESISTANCE !! >>>
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Basicaly don't trust any "superior" being because the only
difference between the good and the bad is thier intent.
Angel=Daemon
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i dont trust the shapesifting reptile side of icke's story... a disinfo artist will always mix bullshit with lots of truth.

the basics of this post sounds on point, even the inner earth beings... but i just dont think they are reptiles; i can even imagine shapeshifting, but i just dont trust that theory. why should i trust an illuminati newreporter(icke) living just moments away from the tavistock institute?

not downplaying your post at all. instead of true reptiles, i lean more towards reptile-like beings, minus the dimensional shapeshifting.

i come to believe the alleged reptiles are very old and technologically advanced lifeforms; but who care's about symantics, we gotta get the vatican out the way before any truth is revealed.
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you're wrong about having to get the Vatican out of the way before truth is revealed...only because Vatican statements are sort of a way to find out what truth is by watching for their patterns of denial and then looking there.

to say "vist gnosis dot org" would be brushing over it -- but the real thing is: people who want truth are closer to being able to have it than ever.

The Vatican is too old and rigid to stop the spread of truth as they were not in the days of Giordano Bruno and Galieleo Galielei.


(the so called "Jesus Sutras" or "Jesus Scrolls" were found in China and describe things that happened that sound a lot like the western "Jesus" story. Just cooler...worth looking up. There is a long trail of Church fathers determined to smear honest stopries about "Jeezus" that differed with Church Doctrine.

Mixing Church and State in such a manner, Catholicism created a World State based on religious half-knowledge -- created GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS of cultures that got an added dysfunctionality because LYING about The Nature Of Things was part of the whole Catholicism deal.

If you find something that seems true and that they would never admit like (say)the sphericality of the Earth, or Sexuality of the Divine -- share it with people who are mentally accepting and not so full of prejudices.

It's not like Catholicism is the only place where judgmental blockheads are found -- and also many atheists are just bitter assholes who feel more like getting off on denying something...raining on someone else's parade. They usually have less of an an organized understanding of the lies and patterns of dysfunction and psychosis in organized religion, and are more like people who just want to find people who believe in God and convince them that they MUST be liars because of the many centuries of lies and Draconian tactics of the RC Church.

But in THAT i see the machinations and cunning of the Illuminati. What better place for those who were sworn to Lucifer than the Roman Empire, famous killersin the name of the Prince of Peace? Some believe their empire must be helped to fall apart by finding the truths they won't speak and sharing them -- basically embarassing them into mothballs. I have succeeded in not giving up on believing in a wise loving and NON JUDGING God just because of the INSANE CRUELTY of seventeen hundred years of Darth-Vader like fear of the Stark Fist of Catholicism...but I fully undertand how its insane hypocrisy and cruelty in the alleged name of God has created many many Atheists, Satanists and weird Alistair Crowley types of extremists.

(the ONLY reason Catholic priests insist on celibacy is because before it was made law: Priests were passing their inheritances down to their sons and the Vatican was not gettinmg any money. They started a Kingdom on earth: a honest scholar who neither loved nor hated "Jesus" could figure out that they are the oppoiste of what "He" was teaching and have been since Constantine roared brutally into Rome -- BEFORE he claimed the Messianic faith and began forcing it down everyone's throats.)

saying you HAVE to "get the Vatican out of the way" is making too much of an "Earth: Final Conflict" scenario. They could not stop you from going to Gnosis.org today and reading the Gospels of Mary Magdalen, Phillip or Judas Iscariot and realising just how much Roman Imperialism has twisted the story of the Nazarene for worldly gains. Had to say that.

Ultimately what ReptilianWatch (kudos) is complaining about is something called "antichrist."

people who contemplate Antichrist or who will believe in such a thing without taking up a rigorous search for the truth of, well, "the opposite of antichrist"...have yet to do so. They'll have to inevitably: logic begs that. If there IS an Antichrist that is logical proof for the existance of CHRIST and fuel for my personal conspiracy that Satan Is Simply STUPID, ultimately...the ultimate Nescience, impersonating grandeur to decieve minds and cause misery via The Lie.

if there is an antichrist, there must be a christ. and it stands to reason that that is an unknown Christ -- considering all that the Vatican has said.

One DOES have to get used to -- just like people who claim they are pro life while remaining pro war at the same time -- a mess of lies and distortions, convoluted, like an anaconda -- such a heavy morass of lies that there MUST have been a beautiful and edifying truth beneath the FALSE Christ religion of war and guilt that we all know...
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Life looks different after Creation has a word with you

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