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"Here is just some food for thought. Brady rhoden, (brother to Chris sr and Kenneth, father to Brandon and Jake) is kinda been removed from family. No one speaks of him even the kids. But his address is listed as 799 left fork road. That's right the camper!! Kenneth's address is listed as 70 millers lane, eagerly but we know he was staying at the camper. So was there something going on between the brothers?"
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70 Millers Lane was the address of Kenneth Rhoden and his wife Stacie Rigsby, born 3-17-1970. They married 9 April 1991 in Pickaway Co, Ohio.

[link to marriage-divorce-records.mooseroots.com]

Kenny was 'still' there in 1997, according to speeding incident in Pike Co records.
[link to www.pikecountycourt.org]

This link will show 4077 Union Hill for most other 'incidents' on record. [link to www.pikecountycourt.org]

Gary Rhoden lived there -or used that address- from 2000-2003, with Stacie and Ken's children.
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(Edited out erroneous info on 5-10)


Unfortunately, a comment was removed stating that Don told 'Faye' he had taken $8000 dollars that he found with Kenny's body 'so LE didn't get it'.

It was also mentioned that Kenny couldn't pay support, but obviously had money.

"Donald Stone and Brandon Rhoden they both were tired of being used to bring cash and deliver the weed to Greenup. They wanted a percentage of the money and Kenneth didn't want to give them anything. Jake told Brandon that it was best to get rid of them and they continue the trade of weed to suppliers." Posted 5-2 on Rarden topix, attributed to Lisa...whom it suspect is the ex.

[link to m.topix.com]

While there's a year 2002 record in the PIke County Court that shows Kenny's address still on Millers Lane, it's more likely due to a credit account having him listed there; he and Dana were still married, despite his second marriage.

Apologies if any of this has already been posted.




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""killers

Weatherford, TX

#1 Tuesday
These two need to come out and say why they killed them. Was it all for the money or drugs. They were tired of being used felt like nobody's. Brandon how could you do that to Frankie and Hannah they loved you.""


""Bobby

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Yeah its sad cause if jake help there was a possibility that he may have been master mind. Cause it was said he was the father of hannah's new born. Yet brandon was being used as delivery man before to Greenup even stated on his FB that's how his court got paid. Then Donald Stone he gets drunk and spills his nuts to Fay Russell about the 8000 he took from Kenneth's home. Yet he can't sent his support to Dollie but she kind hearted tags them with kids pictures and the bad mouth it sad. Maybe Donald jake and brandon should have died instead of Kenneth Chris and gary""
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New interview with Donald Stone.

I've always thought Stone had something to do with it............he's a phony liar, the money on the bed was do doubt part of what he had stolen. For him to say he found a "tray" of pot plants on the garage floor......he's attempting to imply that's what the murders were over.........bullshit

All of this talk about "grows" and marijuana money is all bullshit unless the "grows" were indoors......it's cold as shit in that part of the country until late spring

The "trays" were most likely seedlings that were to be planted outdoors when it warmed up.........but for any type of real operation, there would have been many trays

If they were growing anything substantial indoors, cousin Stone would have known about it, after all, he was supposed to spend the night with his cuz, not something new for relatives trying to make a buck...............










[link to nbc4i.com]
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He is so sketchy. Fake tears, among other body language tells . . . And why not call 911 immediately instead of checking out the marijuana plants in the garage. Wonder who was with him??
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That's a good question. It's the first I'm hearing of someone being with him.
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First I've heard that too.

I would've been out of there so fast, would have no need for a car. But THEY hang around and poke into the garage? Something in there they wanted. Larger pot plants? Or the $8k someone said he took?

He doesn't know of any illegal activity... but goes poking into the garage.

I guess the reason for leaving is to go get cell service, on a hill maybe?
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""outsidelookingin

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#4093 46 min ago
I am a grandmother from the other side of the country and I am not even very familar with Ohio (other then traveling though many years ago and observing the beauty of the land)...but this case have really caught by attention like no other case have before..Last week I also started looking at fb pages and one really stood out. BRANDON RHODEN, he all but admitted his involvement in several post some which have been deleted.

He ranted on about truely loving his family, asking god for forgiveness, and how he had to do what he had to do for his kids, he sumed it up with a post on wednesday stating "he could not waiting til friday". He then came back after the murders between sadness and repentence, stateing his family have no ideal of the devil inside of him.""
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"Donald Stone should have been smarter - and not opened his mouth to investigators or the media. But that's what happens in hillbilly land. Where the men are men - and the sheep are nervous."

Comment after media article linked below. Donald Stone changed the story he initially told 911. Now he's saying he brought an (unnamed) relative to his cousin Kenneth's home with whom he was supposed to have worked on cars that very day. Also that he had already heard rumors about the mass murders from family members.

Locals question if Stone was sleeping nearby why he didn't hear any gun shots. Stone must also be blind IMHO because he says he didn't know there was any pot plants on the property.

[link to nbc4i.com]

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I see nothing wrong in the pics.
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I see a tarp out there in front of the blue tents.
It approximates the area of the graves.
It is dangerous if there were really deep holes there just under that tarp.
But, I use it as a comparison to the close up in which manipulation is clearly evident.

You can judge by the three headstones as seen in both pics.
But, the one that says "Killen" shows in the overhead pic a fresh straw covered area also. But, not on close up.

Killen is clearly photoshopped name on the headstone.
Look at the mouseover graphics to see pixel image.
The flowers are photoshopped in. Also, see mouseover or scroll down to view the ELA.
See the straight edges to represent the flower images?

There's a lot more, but you should get the idea.
Also a name placard should be placed there right away
giving name and date of death until a permanent marker is made. Like the size of the graves. Appears a bit narrow for three vaults to be dug there, but I'll let that slide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070

Yes, the "Killen" name is weird. It's like a code, "Kill end" (killing-ends-here). "Killen" is the only grave without flowers and I can't find online the Killen obituary in Scioto Burial Park.
Another photos from distance but with the same poor resolution:
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
link for them:
[link to www.cincinnati.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567

I couldn't locate it on find-a-grave either.
But, I took it as southern or country talk. Killen is killing. So, you mean to tell me that in all that cemetery they are going to bury these people next to a headstone that says that?
Nope. According to the fotoforensics, that name is photoshopped in.

The media, they are a regular laugh riot, aren't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


This woman died April 13, and was buried at that Cemetery:
[link to www.legacy.com]
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I see a tarp out there in front of the blue tents.
It approximates the area of the graves.
It is dangerous if there were really deep holes there just under that tarp.
But, I use it as a comparison to the close up in which manipulation is clearly evident.

You can judge by the three headstones as seen in both pics.
But, the one that says "Killen" shows in the overhead pic a fresh straw covered area also. But, not on close up.

Killen is clearly photoshopped name on the headstone.
Look at the mouseover graphics to see pixel image.
The flowers are photoshopped in. Also, see mouseover or scroll down to view the ELA.
See the straight edges to represent the flower images?

There's a lot more, but you should get the idea.
Also a name placard should be placed there right away
giving name and date of death until a permanent marker is made. Like the size of the graves. Appears a bit narrow for three vaults to be dug there, but I'll let that slide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070

Yes, the "Killen" name is weird. It's like a code, "Kill end" (killing-ends-here). "Killen" is the only grave without flowers and I can't find online the Killen obituary in Scioto Burial Park.
Another photos from distance but with the same poor resolution:
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
link for them:
[link to www.cincinnati.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567

I couldn't locate it on find-a-grave either.
But, I took it as southern or country talk. Killen is killing. So, you mean to tell me that in all that cemetery they are going to bury these people next to a headstone that says that?
Nope. According to the fotoforensics, that name is photoshopped in.

The media, they are a regular laugh riot, aren't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


This woman died April 13, and was buried at that Cemetery:
[link to www.legacy.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan

Then I guess that big headstone would have read PENDLETON.
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Yes, the "Killen" name is weird. It's like a code, "Kill end" (killing-ends-here). "Killen" is the only grave without flowers and I can't find online the Killen obituary in Scioto Burial Park.
Another photos from distance but with the same poor resolution:
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
[link to www.gannett-cdn.com]
link for them:
[link to www.cincinnati.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567

I couldn't locate it on find-a-grave either.
But, I took it as southern or country talk. Killen is killing. So, you mean to tell me that in all that cemetery they are going to bury these people next to a headstone that says that?
Nope. According to the fotoforensics, that name is photoshopped in.

The media, they are a regular laugh riot, aren't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


This woman died April 13, and was buried at that Cemetery:
[link to www.legacy.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan

Then I guess that big headstone would have read PENDLETON.
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Not necessarily, if it was a Killian Family plot.

Anyway, she died on the 13th, it was still a new plot, and Killian was her maiden name.

Maybe it was changed, for privacy reasons?
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I couldn't locate it on find-a-grave either.
But, I took it as southern or country talk. Killen is killing. So, you mean to tell me that in all that cemetery they are going to bury these people next to a headstone that says that?
Nope. According to the fotoforensics, that name is photoshopped in.

The media, they are a regular laugh riot, aren't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


This woman died April 13, and was buried at that Cemetery:
[link to www.legacy.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan

Then I guess that big headstone would have read PENDLETON.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


Not necessarily, if it was a Killian Family plot.

Anyway, she died on the 13th, it was still a new plot, and Killian was her maiden name.

Maybe it was changed, for privacy reasons?
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


You mean like you just did, from Killen to Killian?

You can change things on the internet with a few strokes.
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Sorry...I was not thinking.

Are you mad at me? You seem put off by my posts.
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I'm hearing they came into just one trailer and others came out when they were awakened by the shooting. If Hannah was nursing her baby at the time she was shot she clearly wasn't asleep. Dana was posting messages on her internet just after 3 am. There's clear evidence the bodies were moved.

Everyone in the area hunts wild turkeys and deer so they've grown up around stalking prey and gun culture.

Is it really coincidental that the killers waited until Hannah gave birth and came home from the hospital?
 Quoting: MustRemainAnonlymous


Well, thats make more sense now. The crime scenes are different and possible they were killed in Chris Sr.'s house. There must be many footprints, fingerprints and DNA if the killers were these 3.
Do you think someone wanted especially the Hanna's baby and Hanna dead? Because would have been easy to kill the rest of the family when Hanna was in the hospital.
Do you think Kenneth heard the shootings? And why was let with his dog inside?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567


But doesn't fit the "execution style" of many of them at the scene.
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The AG has said both. He's said many were shot execution style and many were shot in their beds.

There's only 8 alleged victims. And two were stated found in their beds. So to say MANY were shot execution or either in their beds makes no sense when you are talking about the disposition of less than 6 other bodies.

Where's the incident reports?
Why are they dragging their feet on that?
I haven't read where the Gazette is still complaining about it's release either.
Any locals who can put this in the comment sections to ask about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070




Sincere thanks to the previous posters who recommended Topix.com. If you read all of the comments you'll get a much clearer picture of what happened and why. At least some of the posters are either distantly related to the victims, live in surrounding areas, or have done a lot of reading on the FB pages of the accused before info was deleted. IMHO it's a better source of what likely happened rather than pure 100% speculation

Believe we got the info they were shot execution style with ONE bullet to the back of the head originally from Donald Stone's call to 911, and then his follow up interview when running into the paps at the special town event right after the murders were revealed. So the police let the paps run with the false story. Likely Stone wanted the public to believe the hit was done by professionals which would lead the media to suspect a drug cartel or at least a Motorcycle Gang. Either way a deterrent from the real killer. Guess who one of those would be?

Looking back it makes Stone appear even more guilty. How would he know how so many died? Who in their right mind closely examines an obviously dead relative? Wouldn't you check to see if you should request an ambulance, and then immediately call 911? Did he check out ALL of the deceased which were located 7 miles away from his uncle Kenneth? If not then how did he come up with his info of how they died?

The 1st person to call 911, Bobby Joe, did so after getting her father to investigate and assist. Likely she was afraid to reveal the pot growing evidence. Don't think she checked out all of the trailers to see how many were dead or how.

In reality only one man was shot with one bullet. The rest were shot multiple times; one 9 times as if he were threatened when he didn't answer his executioners' questions correctly. Also some of the bodies were moved, others dragged to different locations than where they died. That's why the police impounded some of the vehicles on site in the belief they could have been used to transport bodies. The blood spatters clearly indicate not all died in their beds.

Now Doug Stone changed his story in the NBC interview and said he actually went to check on Kenneth with a relative whom he didn't name. Needed to explain evidence of DNA from both of them. So why did he then go to the garage? Why would he lie and say he didn't know there were pot plants on property? How foolish to fabricate such a story.
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I presume posting these quotes is ok, since I'm not banned yet.

It just keeps piling up.....

[link to www.topix.com]

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Jerry Rigger wrote:
Mr.stone deleted all the deceased from his Facebook account about 3 or 4 days BEFORE this happened. This is not my opinion,it's fact. I've been in contact with one of the family members (cousin) who believes he's involved but had no proof. She said she can't say why because LE asked her to remain silent about her statements until the investigation is concluded.""
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A comment at topix said Chris Jr. was the one shot 9 times, not Sr. as we had read. Stated he almost got away and was shot near the edge of the woods.

That could explain the turkey hunter hearing the shots. Shots from inside a house would be muffled and wouldn't reverberate through the woods like shots do outside.

True or not, I don't know, but LE may have put out misleading info on purpose.
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This woman died April 13, and was buried at that Cemetery:
[link to www.legacy.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan

Then I guess that big headstone would have read PENDLETON.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


Not necessarily, if it was a Killian Family plot.

Anyway, she died on the 13th, it was still a new plot, and Killian was her maiden name.

Maybe it was changed, for privacy reasons?
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


You mean like you just did, from Killen to Killian?

You can change things on the internet with a few strokes.
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It says she's survived by her husband, David Marvin Killen.
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I presume posting these quotes is ok, since I'm not banned yet.

It just keeps piling up.....

[link to www.topix.com]

""
Jerry Rigger wrote:
Mr.stone deleted all the deceased from his Facebook account about 3 or 4 days BEFORE this happened. This is not my opinion,it's fact. I've been in contact with one of the family members (cousin) who believes he's involved but had no proof. She said she can't say why because LE asked her to remain silent about her statements until the investigation is concluded.""
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You would likely be interested in a "hidden" Rarden, Ohio forum on Topix. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't (to my knowledge) show up on the list of discussions under Rarden. It did at one point because that is how I found it. It is a huge, continuous thread (about the Rhoden murders) and can only be accessed via direct link or via your history once you start following.

Here is the link...
[link to m.topix.com]
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Well, thats make more sense now. The crime scenes are different and possible they were killed in Chris Sr.'s house. There must be many footprints, fingerprints and DNA if the killers were these 3.
Do you think someone wanted especially the Hanna's baby and Hanna dead? Because would have been easy to kill the rest of the family when Hanna was in the hospital.
Do you think Kenneth heard the shootings? And why was let with his dog inside?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567


But doesn't fit the "execution style" of many of them at the scene.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57281567

The AG has said both. He's said many were shot execution style and many were shot in their beds.

There's only 8 alleged victims. And two were stated found in their beds. So to say MANY were shot execution or either in their beds makes no sense when you are talking about the disposition of less than 6 other bodies.

Where's the incident reports?
Why are they dragging their feet on that?
I haven't read where the Gazette is still complaining about it's release either.
Any locals who can put this in the comment sections to ask about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070




Sincere thanks to the previous posters who recommended Topix.com. If you read all of the comments you'll get a much clearer picture of what happened and why. At least some of the posters are either distantly related to the victims, live in surrounding areas, or have done a lot of reading on the FB pages of the accused before info was deleted. IMHO it's a better source of what likely happened rather than pure 100% speculation

Believe we got the info they were shot execution style with ONE bullet to the back of the head originally from Donald Stone's call to 911, and then his follow up interview when running into the paps at the special town event right after the murders were revealed. So the police let the paps run with the false story. Likely Stone wanted the public to believe the hit was done by professionals which would lead the media to suspect a drug cartel or at least a Motorcycle Gang. Either way a deterrent from the real killer. Guess who one of those would be?

Looking back it makes Stone appear even more guilty. How would he know how so many died? Who in their right mind closely examines an obviously dead relative? Wouldn't you check to see if you should request an ambulance, and then immediately call 911? Did he check out ALL of the deceased which were located 7 miles away from his uncle Kenneth? If not then how did he come up with his info of how they died?

The 1st person to call 911, Bobby Joe, did so after getting her father to investigate and assist. Likely she was afraid to reveal the pot growing evidence. Don't think she checked out all of the trailers to see how many were dead or how.

In reality only one man was shot with one bullet. The rest were shot multiple times; one 9 times as if he were threatened when he didn't answer his executioners' questions correctly. Also some of the bodies were moved, others dragged to different locations than where they died. That's why the police impounded some of the vehicles on site in the belief they could have been used to transport bodies. The blood spatters clearly indicate not all died in their beds.

Now Doug Stone changed his story in the NBC interview and said he actually went to check on Kenneth with a relative whom he didn't name. Needed to explain evidence of DNA from both of them. So why did he then go to the garage? Why would he lie and say he didn't know there were pot plants on property? How foolish to fabricate such a story.
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Topix has a hidden, Rarden, Ohio, thread about the Rhoden murders that doesn't appear on the forum discussion board. It is huge and loaded with info. You may want to check it out if you haven't done so already. Need direct link (below) to access the discussion.

[link to m.topix.com]
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"Eric Estrada" Thanks for that FAB link. I'll read the thread tomorrow. I haven't posted on Topix.com. Perhaps Mods are trying to limit cruel newbies' posts while encouraging locals to provide insights, and so restrict access.
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What if kenneth was in on the killings with Donald?
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What if kenneth was in on the killings with Donald?
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No, I don't think so. He was fat. The killers must have been athletics.
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I am not claiming "FF".

All I am saying is there is a lot of fakery and obfuscation in this case.

Watch this video where the fake Funeral Home is.
Note the dress of pall bearers and the fact they are not even named in these alleged "obits".

Then, it's on to the cemetery. The cemetery...oh, make that cow pasture. Because all you see are cows and horses and no headstones! I like how the gravel road that they don't drive on, mostly because it doesn't actually exist and is video edited in.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I don't claim to know what this is all about. I just know that great pains are being gone to to make this case very obscured.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


Notice in your linked video,

the sign says 'future home' of Crokett l. Reed funeral home.

it just opened two months ago.

This is why there are no headstones.


'In February of 2016 he opened Crockett L Reed Funeral Home.' [link to www.clrfuneralhome.com]

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]


gossiptards. stupidtards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30931949


That is a fake funeral.
The alleged cemetery is not connected to the future home of a funeral home.

That gravel road that is BESIDE the grass they are bumping along instead of driving on, is because it doesn't exist. It's video edited in.
The cows and horses still in the pasture when the news team comes along because that's what it is.
NO headstones. They already said that some of the funerals were going to be in a cow pasture. Yeah sure.

The address at 4077 is not a read address.
chris Rhoden's middle name on search engines is Daniel, not Don.
On and on.
But, if you can't see this, I can't help you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72023070


A fake funeral, really? I personally know someone that attended the funeral and I can personally assure you that there was nothing fake about the funeral or these murders. It really doesn't matter how these people were dressed for the funeral and for anyone to imply that this is a set up isn't all there to say it kindly. iamwith
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Very very interesting comment on websleuths:
"To me the thing that stands out about this crime is the number of houses visited that night. If this was all over drugs then I feel only CR1's or KR's house would have been targeted and the only way DR and the kids would have been involved is if they were there at the time. I cannot see any drug dealers/cartels bringing that much heat down on themselves over a few hundred pot plants or going door to door hunting people down. Yes, whole families are killed over drugs but that is usually because the family was in the house at the time with the primary target. Ditto for a robbery. The cartels/dealers are fully aware of how hard it is to do business with tons of LE wandering around and killing 8 people would bring every cop in the state (not to mention DEA and FBI) running, so I don't think the drugs had anything to do with it. Burglars don't go door to door either, if they suspect money then they go to where they think it is in a smash and grab sort of way so that kind of rules out robbery as a motive.
The only way I can put this together is to start with the assumption that the primary targets were CR1, KR, FR and DR since they are the heads of household in the targeted houses. GR, HG, CR2, and HR were just there. In other words I do not think the killer would have hunted for them if they were somewhere else at the time, like at a friend or relatives house. It also explains why other relatives living close by were passed over on the way to kill KR.
So I wondered what these 4 had in common. Not drugs since I think LM was correct in saying he didn't think his daughter was involved in the grow operations. She might have known about it but it is unlikely she would have been actively involved in the selling. As someone else on here said the only thing that all 4 had in common was cars e.g. selling, fixing, buying.
So I started looking at that and found a statement made a few months ago about the AG of Ohio saying he was cracking down on used car lots for not giving titles and stolen cars being "refurbished" with VINs from salvaged cars. That meant the risk involved in such activities increased greatly. I looked at the car lot DR kept linking to and found the owners name, looked on her website and noticed her manager's name was the same as owner of the BB lodge they all worked at and the same one who gave interviews to the press.
I don't think stolen cars would be motive to kill 8 people though so I wondered what would be worth killing that many people for. Hunting them down at different houses even. The only thing I came up with is a career. A career that could potentially be worth many millions of dollars (e.g one mega hit song).
The public is fickle where their entertainers are concerned. Drugs don't ruin a career. The public has sort of come to expect that of entertainers thanks to Elvis, Michael Jackson and others. They might frown on them being connected to selling them but they could also deny knowing about the selling and it would be hard to prove they did know. The only thing that will tank a career is something that affects the public directly, like Milli Vanilli who lip synced their songs and tanked overnight because their fans felt deceived.
Being involved with stolen cars could potentially be (or be perceived to be by someone who had a direct interest in that career) unforgivable also since it affects all of us in the fact that if it is not our car that was stolen, a spike in stolen cars causes a rise in car insurance all over the nation. The insurance companies are not going to lose money and we see such rises after every hurricane or other natural disaster. That costs everyone who owns a car. Serving time in prison for selling stolen property could tank it too since extended time spent out of the spotlight usually means people forget about you. Protecting such a career that could be worth millions would be a good motive if you had a substantial interest in that career.
I also read somewhere that throwing money on a dead body is a sign that person got too greedy. Given that and the AG's vendetta on stolen cars I am wondering if CR1 and KR decided since the risk was greater the pay should be too. That they may have communicated that with a threat to go to LE if they didn't get that pay raise. Extortion would be a motive and would also explain why everyone who knew about it had to go. Killing that many people would also serve to warn anyone else who knew about it to keep quiet. (LM's statement in an interview of "Are they going to kill me? Maybe or maybe not. I don't know." could be interpreted as a sign of fear for his life or his surviving families lives because of what they knew.)
It would also explain why those all those cars were towed. It would even explain why LM's son JM's truck was towed since relatives and ex relatives usually buy vehicles from family feeling they would get a better deal. Could also be the reason he didn't have tag since you need a title to get one. Maybe the reason LM was so angry about it being towed is he knew and he was fearful about his son buying stolen property?
Any thoughts on this theory anyone? I hope I have not broken any TOS rules with this post. If so please delete it."
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New article. They're asking anyone with surveillance video to hand it over. They should have asked for this weeks ago since people who did have video have probably erased it by now. Then again, I'm not familiar with how those work.




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New article. They're asking anyone with surveillance video to hand it over. They should have asked for this weeks ago since people who did have video have probably erased it by now. Then again, I'm not familiar with how those work.




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I find the location marked on the map interesting.
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New article. They're asking anyone with surveillance video to hand it over. They should have asked for this weeks ago since people who did have video have probably erased it by now. Then again, I'm not familiar with how those work.




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It means they have the videos already.
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Investigators have video, seek more in Pike County
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Update, 2:45 p.m.: Attorney General Mike DeWine said Tuesday that investigators have acquired video pertaining to the investigation of the April 22 killing of eight people in Pike County.

"We reached out to people initially that we thought might have video," DeWine said during a media session in his Cincinnati office. "We were able to obtain some video."
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[link to www.cincinnati.com]

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Leonard Manley, the father of Dana Rhoden, said his former son-in-law Christopher Rhoden Sr. had at least two video cameras mounted to a building near the entrance of his trailer on Union Road. When motorists arrived at this driveway, a sensor would turn lights on, he said.

“You could clearly see the cars and even the people inside," said Manley, sitting outside his home on Union Hill Road Tuesday.

He said he believed Christopher Rhoden Sr. kept the cameras on at all time, but did not know if authorities had video from those cameras. DeWine and investigators have chosen not to release details of their investigation, now nearly three weeks old.

Manley’s youngest daughter, Bobby Jo Manley, told The Enquirer that Kenneth Rhoden also had a video security system at his trailer at 799 Left Fork Road. She said she knew they were there because she had cleaned his trailer on occasion. She said she did not know if authorities had obtained any video footage from those cameras.
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Since the investigation started, Leonard Manley said, authorities have taken between 100 and 150 vehicles from the properties in and around Christopher Rhoden Sr.’s home as well as a backhoe and another piece of farming equipment.

On Monday, he and Bobby Jo Manley said, authorities towed a semi-tractor trailer from the property. Bobby Jo Manley said it had “flea market stuff” in it. Four of the cars that authorities have taken are her cars, she said.

The others, according to Leonard, were in various stages of repair waiting to be sold. Others were scavenged for parts, he said.
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Here is an article in which Bobby was interviewed. Good article: [link to www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com]





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