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Thoth User ID: 68176982 United States 04/23/2016 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Irish and I grew up with family that not only loved but lived for their Football and Boxing. My grandad boxed. Quoting: Goofy for God The first part of my life I loved Dallas till Tom Landry was let go then I followed Parcels. After my time with my brother all that changed and I saw we love our violent movies , games and sports . In fact most our favorite past times has violence is involved. Before the fall of the Garden of Eden , we see no evidence of anything we could call violent. Then came the fall. We see humans did and do all kinds of violence it has been around since the fall like , the Roman Games ect. Then God is just awesome what He does with this. Volcanoes -Violent Earthquakes -Violent Hurricanes- Violent Tornadoes- Violent Lightening-Violent Solar Flares-Violent Meteor Showers-Violent Droughts-Violent Floods-Violent Plagues-Violent Pest-Violent Now lets look at humans and what we crave and how satan has used this to draw us in and away by making this fun and entertaining . But do not speak of Wrath from God , most believers take part in the list below in some form. I did, but lets not speak of The Only Violence we should have been watching. Football Boxing Wrestling Auto Racing Bull Fighting Video Games Movies War Torture Murder Your so called God, had nothing to do with this list. As far as the second part, they were created by the cabal, to distract us from what they are really doing behind the scenes. When are you Christians going to clean the sleep out of your eyes and wash your face? BTW, no such thing as a Satan or Jesus! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18811905 United States 04/23/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adam and Eve were created with no ability to tell right from wrong. They were mindless beings. They could not comprehend sin. Lucifer tells Eve that it's ok to eat the apple. (See point #1) God explains that because they ate from the tree of knowledge, that they can now understand right and wrong. That they can now comprehend sin. Gods punishment for two humans doing something which they had zero possibility of understanding is to punish every single human ever born for eternity. Oh and just to make it real fun and slant the odds in his favor he going to make sure that humans have no limitations on populations and he won't make any attempt to give us direction in a way that we all know. So there will be BILLIONS of humans in eternal damnation. You ever considered how many humans have actually been born since the beginning of time? And let's take the view point you probably support that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Well if you consider that Jesus only came around 2,000 years ago, that means the first 2/3rds of human existence was by default sentenced to eternal damnation because there was no Jesus to go through. Then you get into the really weird stuff like when Jesus was alive or when he was killed how did people in the Americas or in China or in Russia know about this? How long did it take for word to travel to these parts of the world? Did they get a grace period for not knowing the way and the light? |
Baloney User ID: 70824227 United States 04/23/2016 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep this up and truth will continue to elude you. false candace crap that ^^^^ is. The bible is the only source of truth, which is why she rejects it in lieu of satanic filth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64426041 United States 04/23/2016 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This planet is very violent has been since the fall, it will only get worse if you believe the Scriptures . So better understand and embrace Who God really is and not what we have made Him. Quoting: Goofy for God I have always wanted to create video games of all the events in the Old Testament as a learning game , ever wonder why this has not been done. Hasn't been done because it would be too violent. With all the genocide committed at the behest of God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72047857 United States 04/23/2016 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you really serious? Wow. Based on your moronic babble, I know this is a hard concept for you to understand. But people post a thread or comment to discuss topics that interest them or things they are aware of. And you too...Your post itself, is a comment expressing your own self-serving dribble. If you have nothing to contribute, why the need to judge and ridicule? Self serving-hypocrisy much? Looks like OP hit a nerve, lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72047857 United States 04/23/2016 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women are capable of violence... Remember the woman the cut off the guys pee pee? It's sad that the one woman who strikes back out of retribution is used as justification that all women are like that. They aren't. The facts are clear. Yes, everyone is capable of violence. Yet men commit 99% of all violent acts, including rape, murder, torture, abuse and oppression. Male violence is so common, that people ignore the facts and focus on the ONE or two times that women fight back. The tiny percentage of women who commit violence do so out of self-protection and retribution. Most of the women in prisons are there for injuring or killing their husbands...after years of being abused and oppressed, the woman finally snaps and acts out. Meanwhile, men commit violence out of sheer evil and self-serving desires. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72082456 Croatia 04/23/2016 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Irish and I grew up with family that not only loved but lived for their Football and Boxing. My grandad boxed. Quoting: Goofy for God The first part of my life I loved Dallas till Tom Landry was let go then I followed Parcels. After my time with my brother all that changed and I saw we love our violent movies , games and sports . In fact most our favorite past times has violence is involved. Before the fall of the Garden of Eden , we see no evidence of anything we could call violent. Then came the fall. We see humans did and do all kinds of violence it has been around since the fall like , the Roman Games ect. Then God is just awesome what He does with this. Volcanoes -Violent Earthquakes -Violent Hurricanes- Violent Tornadoes- Violent Lightening-Violent Solar Flares-Violent Meteor Showers-Violent Droughts-Violent Floods-Violent Plagues-Violent Pest-Violent Now lets look at humans and what we crave and how satan has used this to draw us in and away by making this fun and entertaining . But do not speak of Wrath from God , most believers take part in the list below in some form. I did, but lets not speak of The Only Violence we should have been watching. Football Boxing Wrestling Auto Racing Bull Fighting Video Games Movies War Torture Murder Fully coincides and you know why? Because the 'god' is created in man's image . It's that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72047857 United States 04/23/2016 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Irish and I grew up with family that not only loved but lived for their Football and Boxing. My grandad boxed. Quoting: Goofy for God The first part of my life I loved Dallas till Tom Landry was let go then I followed Parcels. After my time with my brother all that changed and I saw we love our violent movies , games and sports . In fact most our favorite past times has violence is involved. Before the fall of the Garden of Eden , we see no evidence of anything we could call violent. Then came the fall. We see humans did and do all kinds of violence it has been around since the fall like , the Roman Games ect. Then God is just awesome what He does with this. Volcanoes -Violent Earthquakes -Violent Hurricanes- Violent Tornadoes- Violent Lightening-Violent Solar Flares-Violent Meteor Showers-Violent Droughts-Violent Floods-Violent Plagues-Violent Pest-Violent Now lets look at humans and what we crave and how satan has used this to draw us in and away by making this fun and entertaining . But do not speak of Wrath from God , most believers take part in the list below in some form. I did, but lets not speak of The Only Violence we should have been watching. Football Boxing Wrestling Auto Racing Bull Fighting Video Games Movies War Torture Murder Your so called God, had nothing to do with this list. As far as the second part, they were created by the cabal, to distract us from what they are really doing behind the scenes. When are you Christians going to clean the sleep out of your eyes and wash your face? BTW, no such thing as a Satan or Jesus! How do you know there's no such thing as satan or Jesus? Seriously. How do you KNOW? People accuse others of believing something based on a book, yet they're doing the same thing ...basing their beliefs on something because of government created textbooks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72047857 United States 04/23/2016 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I agree with some of what you're pointing out. But there it's possible that the creator of humans is different than the creator of earth. The earth we live on is a very violent and dangerous place. Add in predatory animals and extreme temperatures to your list Just about everything in this environment can cause fear, harm and/or death to us fragile humans. But if we look at the beautiful and beneficial things that each group is responsible for. God- - beautiful sunsets and scenery. But those do nothing to protect or help humans on this earth. - edible plants, fruits, vegetables, etc - clean water - materials to build shelter Humans- Humans have to do all the work to find, grow and harvest the foods we need. Humans have to make the effort required to find the materials and use them to build our own shelter. Humans actually help, support and protect other humans (and animals). Humans are capable of pure service to others. Voluntarily and unvoluntarily. So while we have a violent environment and violent tendencies in humans...which does seem to be humans mirroring their environment... Humans have the capability of supporting, helping and serving others. Which is something we don't see exist in nature. That's where we need to look for the true love and light. |
Frater User ID: 70182038 United States 04/23/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What man may perceive as nasty God has a reason for. It's all about opposition; Love and hate. war and peace, black and white.. It's about definition, that is the secret to creation. Opposites of the same thing. THEIR IS ONLY GOD! Frater LVX! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53243502 United States 04/23/2016 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Goofy, try and think of EVERYTHING as God and God's creation. Quoting: Frater What man may perceive as nasty God has a reason for. It's all about opposition; Love and hate. war and peace, black and white.. It's about definition, that is the secret to creation. Opposites of the same thing. THEIR IS ONLY GOD! Frater [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Miaphysitism holds that in the one person of Jesus Christ, Divinity and Humanity are united in one (μία, mia - "one" or "single") nature ("physis"), the two being united without separation, without confusion, and without alteration. This is from Eastern Christianity who ROME financed ISLAM to flank and destroy. Highly influenced by Buddhism and recreation cycles. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71513197 Canada 04/23/2016 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72083328 there is no such thing as God's violence. Forming planets are always violent as life cannot be seeded on them unless there has been an extensive age of volcanization and the like. You must grow up and out of your culture and come into God knowing. You still don't recognize God as the light that lights all HUMAN beings. And thus indwells all HUMAN beings who are called the SONS OF GOD and that is in your bible. Find that for yourself beloved. it is found by meditation. "there is no such thing as God's violence." You must be nuts or haven't read the bible. On nearly every page the so called "god of Love" is killing or threatening someone. Besides,doesn't god say choose righteousness, and if what he does is righteous and we live by his example then we all will do just fine because we all act just like him, murderous,vindictive,jealous etc.. you get the point,or, maybe you don't. people will call bad good and good bad, he told you himself |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58440860 United States 04/23/2016 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an end violence for Followers Revelation 20 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[c] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[d] 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. Footnotes: Bump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61869998 France 04/23/2016 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not one god has ever shown itself to be real, nor has any religion offered proof for its alleged deities. Therefore, one must conclude that, if there are any gods, they either (a) don't wish to be known, or (b) don't know we're here. Until evidence for any god or gods is produced, the rational, objective man can draw no conclusion other than (c) atheism regarding all proposed gods. And if either (a) or (b) is correct, it means that there is no point in being religious; both scenarios provide gods that do not desire worship. When one considers all religions objectively, it become apparent (to this observer, anyway) that Yahweh is like any other deity in history: a creation of a certain mentality in a certain location at a certain time in history. Nothing about the Old Testament god attracts me. He's a vicious, jealous deity who commits heinous acts and demands worship in the form of ritual animal sacrifice. The Christian god is better, but how does one divorce him from the Old Testament? As far as this observer can see, one does not in any credible fashion. Even though not one religion has offered evidence for its claims, we can rank religions' worthiness based on their proposed gods and worldviews. One can argue that Eastern religions produce less violent mythologies and are therefore superior, for instance. Until evidence is produced for any proposed deity, I reject all proposed deities as man-made. I am, therefore, an atheist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26521619 United States 04/23/2016 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The curse of death is one of G-d's little acts of violence as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53649251 Why wouldn't it be? A proposed friend has saved you from death and hell on this shitbag ass planet. And then requires your undying attention, your labor, the thoughts of your children. Not much of a sacrifice on your part a rite given for an unknown future in someone else's paradise. Now eat your God, it's blood and entrails, become this thing that saved you. I have walked upon the field of rushes, and it is fill with the death, hate, bile of your consciousness, forever consumed by your God that saved you from some wretched fate. Watching forever as elite monsters walk thru these gates glancing back at you with a smirk of pride of their work. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61869998 France 04/23/2016 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Death is evolution's way of ensuring that room is made for the next generation, because propagation of the species--and thus adaptation--is the individual's ultimate reason for existing. You the individual exist because your parents fulfilled their biological urges. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72041477 United States 04/23/2016 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This planet is very violent has been since the fall, it will only get worse if you believe the Scriptures . So better understand and embrace Who God really is and not what we have made Him. Quoting: Goofy for God I have always wanted to create video games of all the events in the Old Testament as a learning game , ever wonder why this has not been done. Look at top video games you think these are not mind numbing tools List of video games considered the best [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Please explain in detail using Your Own Words the much talked about "fall of mankind". Thank you. :Cloudsss: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71433356 United States 04/23/2016 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an end violence for Followers Quoting: Goofy for God Revelation 20 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[c] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[d] 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. Footnotes: Bump |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71433356 United States 04/23/2016 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely, the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8–9). The apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God's holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. Quoting: Lamb of God 25 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72085140 Spain 04/23/2016 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suprised your into the Mountain God, the god of war, you have an undertone of empathy and care, maybe you should choose one of the female creation gods. Oh lemme guess, you didn't choose, rather that god was selected for you from the already existing pantheon of gods. The more you know eh! |