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I don't believe in god anymore

 
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Boo hoo, things are not going my way, I must blame an external , possibly non existent factor. Your life is failing and instead of improving, you start muhing about God or whatever in which you do not even believe anymore, why even care?


And you Philosemitic religitards...

Riddle me the following:

Why is God so human?

An infinite God creator, yet he requests animal sacrifices because he likes the smell, wants human sacrifice to test people, chooses some shepherd tribe and decides to command them to cut off their foreskin as their covenant. Do you really believe this?

I would understand believing in a cosmic, unexplained etc. Creator, but why something so human? This unexplained force, why would it care for human affairs? Why would it choose this shepherd tribe and command them not to work on Saturdays and on good measure extend it to their slaves as well. Now from a fascinating Creator of the Universe we have a wilful old degenerate man, who just does whatever the fuck he wants, demanding sacrifice and proofs of love anytime. The only way to run a country according to him is a kingdom, lol. He takes up residence in the clouds, then gets butthurt over people building a skyscraper as they might reach him...he makes bets with Satan to tempt Job and gives the man out to Satan etc...if you really literally believe this, well, I also believe that Queen Elizabeth handwashes the stairs in Buckingham Palace every Saturday

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You obviously haven't had it as bad as some people. Do you realize some here were beaten from birth to adulthood by abusive parents? Tormented in school by bullies and then once they got into adulthood the shit still kept coming? A person cannot take shit 24/7 365 for 60 some years and think God is anything but getting off on watching suffering.
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And I've been nailing on this point for a long time. This world is too dependent. And no, I'm not talking financial dependence. I'm talking about depending on people. You gotta depend on people to do the right and honorable thing every single time. We don't have that, not even close.
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God doesn't give you what you want, 'he' gives you what you need.

P.S. Every loss is a gain in disguise.
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please undress that god of yours.. he does not wear clothing and watch the videos I posted above.
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Saying God Most High doesn't exist implies complete knowledge of the truth of what is God. To say a being knows this would be untrue, and therefore wrong. A made thing is not greater than its maker. Is this right? Then it is true.

(1) So let's say it is true that we can say God Most High is always true and always acts rightly. We could then say that this is right and God Most High is faithful.

(2) And let's say that it is true that everything that has been and is promising in your life crashes like the titanic.

(3) We could say that this is not right.

A truth guides an action to be rightly done. If we can say this is right, then it is true. We can also say that an untruth guides an action to be wrongly done.

Since we say God Most High is always true, then God Most High does all the right things, all the time.

(4) We could say that God Most High is faithful, and does all the right things in the right way, all the time.

We can say that it is true that many covenants have been made, and those promises were not completed and fulfilled.
We said before this is not right, therefore wrong (3).

Since we say that God Most High is faithful, can we say it is true that you have been faithful? If we can, then we can say that God Most High has acted wrongly, since we said that it was wrong in (3). Saying so would be wrong and therefore untrue, because we have said God Most High is faithful (4)

If we cannot say that it is true you have been faithful, then God Most High has acted rightly. (3) would not be true.

Is it right to say that the promises will never be completed? This would be wrong and untrue because we say God Most High is faithful.

Can we say that if you become faithful then the covenants will be fulfilled? We can because this would be right and true, as we say God Most High is faithful.

It would be wrong and untrue to expect covenants to be fulfilled by any being other than God Most High, as outlined in (1). So we can say (1) is true.

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my dear god you people are so undereducated. its really sad. Your HIGHER MIND is a piece of the mind of god . Cats achieve consciousness of self for gods sake. These might teach you something. This is another sad thread. It makes me want to shed tears at the lack of knowing what it means to be human.

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What is sad are the thugs pushing that satanic crap. shed tears for those you lead astray including your culties.
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You mean the evil losers pretending to be gods, you mean the ones who create and enjoy your suffering. You mean the ones who prey on you when you pray to them. They love to create strife in your life so that you pray and worship them and then they may throw you a bone and then they start the process all over again.

They are false gods using your own power to own you. However now is the time when we take our existence back and they know it. You can see their growing desperation in the world everyday now. They are losing their power over us, just as it is written in the scrolls of light. Soon they will be nothing to us.
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Are you saying God is fake? I am confused.
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aww, boohoo

I just stopped believing in santa claus last year, he never listens to my requests.
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Dude. Not funny. When I found out Santa was real I drove my car around town for hours. :(
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aww, boohoo

I just stopped believing in santa claus last year, he never listens to my requests.
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Dude. Not funny. When I found out Santa WASN'T real I drove my car around town for hours. :(
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Everything that is promising in my life, crashes like the titanic.
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So because God is not behaving like your personal genie, he obviously doesn't exist? Everyone I know who has moved into a deeper relationship with God and seen real blessings has gone through horrible persecution and suffering.

Bible:
"All who want to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution."

Maybe you should stop listening to the Word of Faith, name and claim preachers, who are really performing witchcraft.
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Doesn't everyone think of God as his or her "personal genie?" The answer is yes! I "was" guilty as anyone else, but it wasn't until I turned my back on organized religion's view of God and walk away. I had to find a new meaning, and after a few years, I found it. I don't ask God for nothing, because I realize who God is, and because of that, I know he can't do anything. NOTHING!

Would you come to me for a loan, if you knew I was broke? No!

God isn't who you've been taught he/she is. God is spirit and spirit has nothing to do with the physical. All the stories in the bible are about spiritual things. We are taught they relate to the physical. They don't!

This is why nothing goes our way. "Godly" people experience the same experiences in life as the "ungodly." Good/bad things happen to "sinners" too. God has nothing to do with any of it.

In the physical life, we all experience persecution and suffering. Some more than others, but God has nothing to do with it. It's life. It's just the way things happen.

Today, I might find $10. Tomorrow, $20. However, there is no guarantee. Maybe you'll find $50! And, if you find $50, and I find nothing, does that mean I have bad luck and you don't? No! It means, you found $50 bucks! That's all it means. In fact, sometime down the road, I may find $100! Life is chance. Good/bad things happen, and God has NOTHING to do with it!

If you want to "improve" your life, you have to learn to let go of it. Lose your identity. Give up on the ego. Learn to seek God spiritually. Try meditation.

Recent news about meditation says scientist have discovered it health benefits to the brain. They say, people who meditate generally has a brain that's 7-years younger than those who don't. There are so many benefits to meditation, so look into it, and more importantly, do it.

God is within you. Jesus is within you. Heaven is within you. What more do you need? Seek God, who is within you spiritually and not physically!
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What are your thoughts on afterlife? Cuz this one sucks
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You are GOD and GOD is you
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The fuckers that trapped us here feed off pain and misery. It's the only thing that makes sense. The longer this goes on, no, there's nothing/nobody good out there. We're on our own. Just try your damndest to find the exit to this fucked up place is the best thing you can do.

No, I'm not talking killing yourself when I say that. Just saying reject coming back here, that's all.
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What if we are just their toy soldiers and they are playing with us and enjoying it and that is our only purpose? How fucked up would that be to be created just to be tormented and then cease to exist or something even worse.
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Everything that is promising in my life, crashes like the titanic.
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G-d is not there to grant wishes. He is not a magic jeanie or the tooth fairy. G-d does grant blessings but first you have to listen. Sometimes bad things come about for no apparent reason; either as a test by Satan as in the Book of Job or just part of life.
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Funny to me the bad doesn't happen to the evil piles of shit in this world. But if you're a good person, decent person, it's like it's open season.
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I say this every fucking day it is so true.
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I don't pray anymore. I was raised praying.
I'm tired. I prayed for peace and got none.
I didn't ask to be given money, only opportunities to help myself and it's still the same old thing.

I am grateful for what I have and we're fine really but there are some issues I would like to resolve, but I thought I couldn't do it alone.

I asked for help. Send me a guide, show me the path, open a door. Nothing. This went on for a couple of years.
Sure, it's supposedly all in His time, but I'm tired and tired of waiting and not so young anymore.

And I felt like I always had to add "with harm to no one" because I've heard of prayers being answered at a price and I won't play that.

I've witnessed 3 situations where someone completely surrendered and dedicated their lives and then the suffering was terrible. From sickness to near divorce.
They left it, went back to their old ways and everything was fine again.

What or who are we praying to? Whatever it is, it seems to like a game well enough at our expense.
Tests, people like to say. I've had enough of those so, no thanks.

So, I AM standing on my own and feeling better the last few days.
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I'm an atheist, OP. I used to believe in that religious nonsense until I started thinking critically. Life got better when I traded Jesus for Jefferson, though.

Let's think this through, shall we?

Most religions teach that their particular god or gods gave humanity reason. It is implied, therefore, that using one's reason is encouraged.

We use reason in all aspects of life. We know that we need to work if we wish to eat. If it snows, we know to dress warmly. If we get sick, we know to visit a doctor. Reason has given us science and technology and art and music. Reason has put a man on the moon, for chrissakes. So why is it that, when we apply this reason to religion, the religious will suddenly accuse reason of being at fault? If ten million people independently find the same scientific and historical blunders in a holy book--not to mention the myriad of internal contradictions present therein--then ought not reason be trusted over that holy book? And if this holy book is found to crumble under reason, then ought we not reject it?

In other words, why would your god give you reason only to demand that you believe in unreasonable things upon pain of eternal damnation? Either that god is a cruel and petty comic, or that religion is unreasonable.

There are no other options. None. In a world of darkness, reason is the brilliant, glorious flame by which we navigate. When we critically examine every religion, not one survives scrutiny. And since all we can do in this dark world is trust our reason, we thinking men have no choice but to be atheists towards every proposed god, because not one god is any more believable or less absurd than any other.

Think of it like this. If there is a god (or gods), then she obviously hasn't revealed herself in the form of religion because all religion is horseshit. If she hasn't revealed herself through religion, then either (a) she doesn't want us being religious, or (b) she doesn't even know we're here.

Just go with the flow of the universe. Regardless of whether or not there is a god or an afterlife, the only thing we can know for certain is that your belief on the subject will have absolutely zero effect on reality. So stop worrying about believing. Accept that you're just one piece of the puzzle and let nature do what's it's been doing for the last 14 billion years.

And if there turns out to be some higher intelligence, then I'm willing to bet that he/she/it/they won't "eternally damn" you for abiding by reason.
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I believe there is a creator or God but that maybe he is a cruel being and loves watching us suffer. This is either a pre hell or hell itself.
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It's fucking ridiculous. I still compare this existence to taking a newborn baby and throwing the baby into the pool. You'll either sink or swim.

Or throw that same baby to a pack of wolves. "Kid, you better learn to fight, learn how to hide, make friends with these wolves or you're going to be their lunch today."

Who the fuck does that? It breaks my heart to see the shit going on. Let me see if I can find a piece that I wrote on another thread:

I'm not at all religious but I disagree. I'm using terms of good versus evil. The evil's kicking our asses day after day. The evil gets stronger. There's no way good will win. The good are still too busy playing by the rules while the evil stomps all over the rules and gets away with it. The "good" lost the second they came into this existence imo.

I said this on another thread:

I'm gonna drag some of what I did say in another thread over here and it connects to what I was talking about for viruses in the machine:

And here's some other thoughts of mine. I see a population that's always willing to play divide and conquer games. I'm outside of that. I don't give a fuck what labels a person puts on themselves. I don't care. The only label I care about is good and evil. I see an existence where the evil whips the good day after day. The evil gets stronger. The good lost the fight within the first few seconds of being trapped in this existence with evil. Why were we put together? And how much of the evil is corrupting the good? How many people out there in this world do shit they HATE doing, hate themselves for doing but they have to because they need the money to care for their family? Don't you think it's like a computer virus that's corrupting everything in its pathway? So another survey:

Are you a file that can no longer be opened because of the virus?
Are you another virus that's popped up on the computer?

I'm gonna leave out the healthy files because I don't see how there could be anything healthy on a computer that's got virus after virus, malware after malware and all sorts of other shit on there.

Don't you think the programmers deserve all the wrath and anger? This was a comparison I made on other sites. Picture a computer programmer coming out with a program, turns out the program is buggy and sucks. A good programmer would either take that program down 100% or fix the damn thing. At least a person has the option of downloading a program onto their computer. What were TRULY OUR options in terms of this existence? Or are we basically like your solitaire game on your computer? It's beyond silly to think of a programmer going up to a computer solitaire game and asking a GAME "Do you want to be installed on this computer? Do you want to be installed on that computer?" No. The game's just installed and probably installed on any computer out there. My guess is we were treated like that solitaire game. "Install on machine." Some of us just have the know how of being able to look around, pay attention to what's going on and realize there's viruses corrupting and destroying everything and everybody good in the machine. Back to the programmer: How would you feel towards this asshole if the programmer strung people along? "lol, I know I told everybody I'd work on the program this week but I haven't gotten around to it. I'll get to it next week." The asshole keeps stringing you along. And what would happen if the programmer said nothing? Here's hoping the people downloading the program look at reviews and see all the 1 star bitching before downloading.

It's late and I hope even some of this makes sense.
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I feel ya, like where the f is he if he IS good? I ain't buying that free will bullshit as I have free willed myself to being as good as I can been for all I been abused and been though and I still get fucked in the ass. I can't catch a break unless its a bone.
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Why did you even start?

There are so many logical fallacies in the bible, if anyone really read it, they would have no illusion that it is a fairy tale and pyramid scheme.
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Boo hoo, things are not going my way, I must blame an external , possibly non existent factor. Your life is failing and instead of improving, you start muhing about God or whatever in which you do not even believe anymore, why even care?


And you Philosemitic religitards...

Riddle me the following:

Why is God so human?

An infinite God creator, yet he requests animal sacrifices because he likes the smell, wants human sacrifice to test people, chooses some shepherd tribe and decides to command them to cut off their foreskin as their covenant. Do you really believe this?

I would understand believing in a cosmic, unexplained etc. Creator, but why something so human? This unexplained force, why would it care for human affairs? Why would it choose this shepherd tribe and command them not to work on Saturdays and on good measure extend it to their slaves as well. Now from a fascinating Creator of the Universe we have a wilful old degenerate man, who just does whatever the fuck he wants, demanding sacrifice and proofs of love anytime. The only way to run a country according to him is a kingdom, lol. He takes up residence in the clouds, then gets butthurt over people building a skyscraper as they might reach him...he makes bets with Satan to tempt Job and gives the man out to Satan etc...if you really literally believe this, well, I also believe that Queen Elizabeth handwashes the stairs in Buckingham Palace every Saturday

rofl
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You obviously haven't had it as bad as some people. Do you realize some here were beaten from birth to adulthood by abusive parents? Tormented in school by bullies and then once they got into adulthood the shit still kept coming? A person cannot take shit 24/7 365 for 60 some years and think God is anything but getting off on watching suffering.
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So true. I'm able to look outside of myself. When I bitch, I'm not just doing it for myself. I'm doing it for every being that feels trapped and cornered in this damn place. I see the pain and misery from others, just like I do myself.
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What is the fucking purpose for this fuckhole? Suffering? I mean really. "Oh it is so you can be tested and your soul can mature". I mean really? I don't think if I was a spirit that was going to live forever in a HEAVEN I would even need this boot camp in hell shit right?
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The fuckers that trapped us here feed off pain and misery. It's the only thing that makes sense. The longer this goes on, no, there's nothing/nobody good out there. We're on our own. Just try your damndest to find the exit to this fucked up place is the best thing you can do.

No, I'm not talking killing yourself when I say that. Just saying reject coming back here, that's all.
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What if we are just their toy soldiers and they are playing with us and enjoying it and that is our only purpose? How fucked up would that be to be created just to be tormented and then cease to exist or something even worse.
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Overall I agree. And going a step more: What if we're abandoned toys? Think of the toys you had when you were a kid. What was your favorite toy? And when was the cut off age you stopped playing with it? Oh, not saying you didn't keep that toy around for nostalgia reasons or even to pass on to your kids or grandkids. I'm talking when was the last time you sat down and played with the toy? At least the toy didn't have to go through pain and suffering. Maybe it sat in a toy box or got put in a box in the attic. But it still doesn't suffer unlike the toys in our world.

I only speak for myself here. I think I'd be happy with ceasing to exist if it's always going to be the same old shit.
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Funny to me the bad doesn't happen to the evil piles of shit in this world. But if you're a good person, decent person, it's like it's open season.
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I say this every fucking day it is so true.
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Who rules this world?

Who does this world hate?
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I believe there is a creator or God but that maybe he is a cruel being and loves watching us suffer. This is either a pre hell or hell itself.
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It's fucking ridiculous. I still compare this existence to taking a newborn baby and throwing the baby into the pool. You'll either sink or swim.

Or throw that same baby to a pack of wolves. "Kid, you better learn to fight, learn how to hide, make friends with these wolves or you're going to be their lunch today."

Who the fuck does that? It breaks my heart to see the shit going on. Let me see if I can find a piece that I wrote on another thread:

I'm not at all religious but I disagree. I'm using terms of good versus evil. The evil's kicking our asses day after day. The evil gets stronger. There's no way good will win. The good are still too busy playing by the rules while the evil stomps all over the rules and gets away with it. The "good" lost the second they came into this existence imo.

I said this on another thread:

I'm gonna drag some of what I did say in another thread over here and it connects to what I was talking about for viruses in the machine:

And here's some other thoughts of mine. I see a population that's always willing to play divide and conquer games. I'm outside of that. I don't give a fuck what labels a person puts on themselves. I don't care. The only label I care about is good and evil. I see an existence where the evil whips the good day after day. The evil gets stronger. The good lost the fight within the first few seconds of being trapped in this existence with evil. Why were we put together? And how much of the evil is corrupting the good? How many people out there in this world do shit they HATE doing, hate themselves for doing but they have to because they need the money to care for their family? Don't you think it's like a computer virus that's corrupting everything in its pathway? So another survey:

Are you a file that can no longer be opened because of the virus?
Are you another virus that's popped up on the computer?

I'm gonna leave out the healthy files because I don't see how there could be anything healthy on a computer that's got virus after virus, malware after malware and all sorts of other shit on there.

Don't you think the programmers deserve all the wrath and anger? This was a comparison I made on other sites. Picture a computer programmer coming out with a program, turns out the program is buggy and sucks. A good programmer would either take that program down 100% or fix the damn thing. At least a person has the option of downloading a program onto their computer. What were TRULY OUR options in terms of this existence? Or are we basically like your solitaire game on your computer? It's beyond silly to think of a programmer going up to a computer solitaire game and asking a GAME "Do you want to be installed on this computer? Do you want to be installed on that computer?" No. The game's just installed and probably installed on any computer out there. My guess is we were treated like that solitaire game. "Install on machine." Some of us just have the know how of being able to look around, pay attention to what's going on and realize there's viruses corrupting and destroying everything and everybody good in the machine. Back to the programmer: How would you feel towards this asshole if the programmer strung people along? "lol, I know I told everybody I'd work on the program this week but I haven't gotten around to it. I'll get to it next week." The asshole keeps stringing you along. And what would happen if the programmer said nothing? Here's hoping the people downloading the program look at reviews and see all the 1 star bitching before downloading.

It's late and I hope even some of this makes sense.
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I feel ya, like where the f is he if he IS good? I ain't buying that free will bullshit as I have free willed myself to being as good as I can been for all I been abused and been though and I still get fucked in the ass. I can't catch a break unless its a bone.
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I'm with you on the free will myth and it's contradicted anyway if there's a "plan" of some sort.
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I don't pray anymore. I was raised praying.
I'm tired. I prayed for peace and got none.
I didn't ask to be given money, only opportunities to help myself and it's still the same old thing.

I am grateful for what I have and we're fine really but there are some issues I would like to resolve, but I thought I couldn't do it alone.

I asked for help. Send me a guide, show me the path, open a door. Nothing. This went on for a couple of years.
Sure, it's supposedly all in His time, but I'm tired and tired of waiting and not so young anymore.

And I felt like I always had to add "with harm to no one" because I've heard of prayers being answered at a price and I won't play that.

I've witnessed 3 situations where someone completely surrendered and dedicated their lives and then the suffering was terrible. From sickness to near divorce.
They left it, went back to their old ways and everything was fine again.

What or who are we praying to? Whatever it is, it seems to like a game well enough at our expense.
Tests, people like to say. I've had enough of those so, no thanks.

So, I AM standing on my own and feeling better the last few days.
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tbh I think maybe that's why I went down the path I'm one. I didn't used to have the thoughts I have now about this place being a trap. Didn't used to have the thoughts about needing to escape from this trap once and for all. It doesn't depress me the way I think. Strangely enough it gives me peace to see there's something very wrong with this existence and I need to find a way to break myself out of it. I have no idea if we can work together to break free from this place or if it's a case of having to work by ourselves. Either way, I truly hope everybody that wants that exit can find it and walk through it.

A lot of us have cracked here. There's only so much a person can take. Maybe a person can take a punch or two the stomach but this is an existence that thrives on punching and kicking even when the victims are curled in the fetal position on the floor.
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I believe there is a creator or God but that maybe he is a cruel being and loves watching us suffer. This is either a pre hell or hell itself.
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It's fucking ridiculous. I still compare this existence to taking a newborn baby and throwing the baby into the pool. You'll either sink or swim.

Or throw that same baby to a pack of wolves. "Kid, you better learn to fight, learn how to hide, make friends with these wolves or you're going to be their lunch today."

Who the fuck does that? It breaks my heart to see the shit going on. Let me see if I can find a piece that I wrote on another thread:

I'm not at all religious but I disagree. I'm using terms of good versus evil. The evil's kicking our asses day after day. The evil gets stronger. There's no way good will win. The good are still too busy playing by the rules while the evil stomps all over the rules and gets away with it. The "good" lost the second they came into this existence imo.

I said this on another thread:

I'm gonna drag some of what I did say in another thread over here and it connects to what I was talking about for viruses in the machine:

And here's some other thoughts of mine. I see a population that's always willing to play divide and conquer games. I'm outside of that. I don't give a fuck what labels a person puts on themselves. I don't care. The only label I care about is good and evil. I see an existence where the evil whips the good day after day. The evil gets stronger. The good lost the fight within the first few seconds of being trapped in this existence with evil. Why were we put together? And how much of the evil is corrupting the good? How many people out there in this world do shit they HATE doing, hate themselves for doing but they have to because they need the money to care for their family? Don't you think it's like a computer virus that's corrupting everything in its pathway? So another survey:

Are you a file that can no longer be opened because of the virus?
Are you another virus that's popped up on the computer?

I'm gonna leave out the healthy files because I don't see how there could be anything healthy on a computer that's got virus after virus, malware after malware and all sorts of other shit on there.

Don't you think the programmers deserve all the wrath and anger? This was a comparison I made on other sites. Picture a computer programmer coming out with a program, turns out the program is buggy and sucks. A good programmer would either take that program down 100% or fix the damn thing. At least a person has the option of downloading a program onto their computer. What were TRULY OUR options in terms of this existence? Or are we basically like your solitaire game on your computer? It's beyond silly to think of a programmer going up to a computer solitaire game and asking a GAME "Do you want to be installed on this computer? Do you want to be installed on that computer?" No. The game's just installed and probably installed on any computer out there. My guess is we were treated like that solitaire game. "Install on machine." Some of us just have the know how of being able to look around, pay attention to what's going on and realize there's viruses corrupting and destroying everything and everybody good in the machine. Back to the programmer: How would you feel towards this asshole if the programmer strung people along? "lol, I know I told everybody I'd work on the program this week but I haven't gotten around to it. I'll get to it next week." The asshole keeps stringing you along. And what would happen if the programmer said nothing? Here's hoping the people downloading the program look at reviews and see all the 1 star bitching before downloading.

It's late and I hope even some of this makes sense.
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I feel ya, like where the f is he if he IS good? I ain't buying that free will bullshit as I have free willed myself to being as good as I can been for all I been abused and been though and I still get fucked in the ass. I can't catch a break unless its a bone.
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I also don't believe in free will. You have shallow choices at best: You gonna wear this shirt or that shirt, watch this or watch that, eat this or eat that, etc.
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I always wonder why god never helps children. They get raped, murdered, get cancer and other diseases and die. and nothing from god. That says a lot.
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Welcome to the J.P. Morgan titanic that sunk the competition in 1912 to create the world ass hat bank of 1913.

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I also don't believe in free will. You have shallow choices at best: You gonna wear this shirt or that shirt, watch this or watch that, eat this or eat that, etc.
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I always wonder why god never helps children. They get raped, murdered, get cancer and other diseases and die. and nothing from god. That says a lot.
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Because the poster before you doesn't believe he is responsible for abusing children...
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Boo hoo, things are not going my way, I must blame an external , possibly non existent factor. Your life is failing and instead of improving, you start muhing about God or whatever in which you do not even believe anymore, why even care?


And you Philosemitic religitards...

Riddle me the following:

Why is God so human?

An infinite God creator, yet he requests animal sacrifices because he likes the smell, wants human sacrifice to test people, chooses some shepherd tribe and decides to command them to cut off their foreskin as their covenant. Do you really believe this?

I would understand believing in a cosmic, unexplained etc. Creator, but why something so human? This unexplained force, why would it care for human affairs? Why would it choose this shepherd tribe and command them not to work on Saturdays and on good measure extend it to their slaves as well. Now from a fascinating Creator of the Universe we have a wilful old degenerate man, who just does whatever the fuck he wants, demanding sacrifice and proofs of love anytime. The only way to run a country according to him is a kingdom, lol. He takes up residence in the clouds, then gets butthurt over people building a skyscraper as they might reach him...he makes bets with Satan to tempt Job and gives the man out to Satan etc...if you really literally believe this, well, I also believe that Queen Elizabeth handwashes the stairs in Buckingham Palace every Saturday

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You obviously haven't had it as bad as some people. Do you realize some here were beaten from birth to adulthood by abusive parents? Tormented in school by bullies and then once they got into adulthood the shit still kept coming? A person cannot take shit 24/7 365 for 60 some years and think God is anything but getting off on watching suffering.
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So true. I'm able to look outside of myself. When I bitch, I'm not just doing it for myself. I'm doing it for every being that feels trapped and cornered in this damn place. I see the pain and misery from others, just like I do myself.
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What is the fucking purpose for this fuckhole? Suffering? I mean really. "Oh it is so you can be tested and your soul can mature". I mean really? I don't think if I was a spirit that was going to live forever in a HEAVEN I would even need this boot camp in hell shit right?
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I don't have a positive opinion about that purpose. I still stick with we're being fed off of. The negativity is like Thanksgiving dinner. It was all a set up.

I long to know how many times I've been trapped here (I do believe we keep coming back unless we're able to find the exit once and for all), what trapped me to start with and what keeps trapping me?
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I always wonder why god never helps children. They get raped, murdered, get cancer and other diseases and die. and nothing from god. That says a lot.
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I don't pray anymore. I was raised praying.
I'm tired. I prayed for peace and got none.
I didn't ask to be given money, only opportunities to help myself and it's still the same old thing.

I am grateful for what I have and we're fine really but there are some issues I would like to resolve, but I thought I couldn't do it alone.

I asked for help. Send me a guide, show me the path, open a door. Nothing. This went on for a couple of years.
Sure, it's supposedly all in His time, but I'm tired and tired of waiting and not so young anymore.

And I felt like I always had to add "with harm to no one" because I've heard of prayers being answered at a price and I won't play that.

I've witnessed 3 situations where someone completely surrendered and dedicated their lives and then the suffering was terrible. From sickness to near divorce.
They left it, went back to their old ways and everything was fine again.

What or who are we praying to? Whatever it is, it seems to like a game well enough at our expense.
Tests, people like to say. I've had enough of those so, no thanks.

So, I AM standing on my own and feeling better the last few days.
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The more I pray the worse shit gets, ya makes sense to me, He love me. bsflag
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I also don't believe in free will. You have shallow choices at best: You gonna wear this shirt or that shirt, watch this or watch that, eat this or eat that, etc.
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I always wonder why god never helps children. They get raped, murdered, get cancer and other diseases and die. and nothing from god. That says a lot.
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Because the poster before you doesn't believe he is responsible for abusing children...
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Excuse me? What the hell does that mean since you quoted my post as well? The only one I've ever abused in my life was myself. And I had a lot of help doing that. I don't even have kids and I'm a SHE instead of a he.
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my dear god you people are so undereducated. its really sad. Your HIGHER MIND is a piece of the mind of god . Cats achieve consciousness of self for gods sake. These might teach you something. This is another sad thread. It makes me want to shed tears at the lack of knowing what it means to be human.

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What is sad are the thugs pushing that satanic crap. shed tears for those you lead astray including your culties.
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whatever

Satantard...
"The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish."

~ Terence McKenna
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I also don't believe in free will. You have shallow choices at best: You gonna wear this shirt or that shirt, watch this or watch that, eat this or eat that, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72116840

I always wonder why god never helps children. They get raped, murdered, get cancer and other diseases and die. and nothing from god. That says a lot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71329660

Because the poster before you doesn't believe he is responsible for abusing children...
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Excuse me? What the hell does that mean since you quoted my post as well? The only one I've ever abused in my life was myself. And I had a lot of help doing that. I don't even have kids and I'm a SHE instead of a he.
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Does the child molester have free will when he chooses whether to have his way with the child or not?

Yeah, he chose his t-shirt we know...





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