New York State proposes giving cops Textalyzer, a device that scans your phone to see if you've been texting while driving

Ridiculous. I don't know about Cali, but in many parts of the country, you don't sit at the curb or in the parking lot with your engine off in the summertime. You would BAKE in the car. BAKE.

Good point - they're a bunch of thugs and hypocrites.

If they were really interested in public safety, they would drug test every cop for illegal steroid use... at least a third would fail and need to be fired!

Or FREEZE for that matter. It's a year round comfort issue in cars.

I smell the opportunity for an instant phone-scrubbing app.

The textalyzer, which gets its name from the breathalyzer that determines a driver's blood alcohol content, is a roadside device introduced by Cellebrite, an Israeli technology company that specializes in data extraction. The device is a scaled-back version of a more intensive phone-scraping technology created by the company, which promises that the device doesn't give access to personal conversations or apps. Instead, the textalyzer only determines if the phone was in use at the time of the accident, with the option for a more in-depth crawl should the police officer obtain a warrant to search the driver's phone.

"I have often heard there is no such thing as a breathalyzer for distracted driving — so we created one," said DORC co-founder Ben Lieberman in a press statement. "Respecting drivers' personal privacy, however, is also important, and we are taking meticulous steps to not violate those rights."

The bill includes language that gives law enforcement "implied consent" to having one's phone tested at the scene of the crash. Fourth Amendment rights are not violated, they claim, because no actual phone data is being mined by the technology, as reported by Ars Technica.

But some civil liberties groups are skeptical that in practice, use of the textalyzer will be as un-invasive as DORC claims.

"Distracted driving is a serious public safety concern. But this solution is not tailored to the problem," said Donna Lieberman (no relation to DORC's Ben Lieberman), executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU). "The technology may in fact be scanning through the content of people’s phones and collecting data, even if that is not apparent. And even if you finely tune the technology, there are many cases where people will be fined for lawful activity. There are several ways someone could be using a phone in line with distracted driving laws that could run afoul of this test."

"I think a law that essentially requires you to hand over your phone to a cop in a roadside situation without a warrant is a non-starter. I know that the supporters of this law talk about how it is designed to keep police away from these sensitive areas of your life. But really, that’s ridiculous. They’re human and they stray or make errors in judgment," he said.

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You do know, AC, that most likely that device will be used to justify stealing your phone, putting you in jail, and/or far, far worse, right? You're being rather single minded about this too. How do any of us know for a fact or multiple facts that this Textalyzer device will actually detect your phone sending and/or receiving texts WHILE you're driving. You could do like me and while driving get a text just press the X button real quick on the text box to make it go away so your phone's screen turns off again so you can easily focus on the road while driving.

Chances are even this practice will be used against me and all others with this Textalyzer device. Somehow I suspect that this device will even detect you getting at text while your phone is off so if that is accurate you're completely and utterly fucked while having a cellphone on you while driving and/or while a passenger in the vehicle. This is very bad news for all of us drivers.

Jeez. Looks like my post directly below your quoted post, gmigriff, might actually wind up becoming accurate afterall.

Yep. An Israeli company doing this be a big red flag that they're not doing this in any of our best interests, but to fatten their wallets and for vast data collection on the victims.

So now if you get in any car accident you will be forced into a unconstitutional search to prove that you are innocent of a crime that you haven't been charged with.

this, they would need a search warrant to search through phones.

How long before they set up safety check roadblocks where they demand to scan your phone?

They're trying to sidestep that requirement:

The bill includes language that gives law enforcement "implied consent" to having one's phone tested at the scene of the crash. Fourth Amendment rights are not violated, they claim, because no actual phone data is being mined by the technology, as reported by Ars Technica.

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this is a violation of the constitution, they need a warrant before i hand my cell phone over.

wtf is implied consent?

meh...just another front on the continuing revenue shakedown of white drivers.

Literally anything the cop says your consent is.

Good.

What if a FUCKING PASSENGER was just using your phone?

Well there's our answer why. Every. Single. Time.

They don't care.

Israeli CEOs wants:
1. Your tax dollars
2. Your info; make sure your being a good cattle

He can want in one hand, and take a shit in the other, and see which one comes up with something first.

I say we sue the izzie CEO for civil rights violations.

you know they won't adhere to this rule and will download your texts to search for criminal activity.

behind every scam, sham, there is a jew.

Yes, the device has that capability:

The device is a scaled-back version of a more intensive phone-scraping technology created by the company, which promises that the device doesn't give access to personal conversations or apps. Instead, the textalyzer only determines if the phone was in use at the time of the accident, with the option for a more in-depth crawl should the police officer obtain a warrant to search the driver's phone.


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more disregard for our freedoms, who would have imagined?

Yeah, I mean.. Warrants are like, SO last century..
Idiots..


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Yep! Too bad just about anything Israel produces is something god awful and horrific in nature.

Not every scam and sham Jews are involved. Jews are simply the glorified and legalized thieves of today.

I'm more scared of a texting teenager than a drunk driver