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Bodiless Forum Administrator  User ID: 21228410  United States05/01/2016 05:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look it up Please take the time to learn about all aspects of the issue. Some people like to make assumptions and jump to conclusions. Many people believe the trails in the sky are persistent contrails. And nobody believes contrails are there to make our lives spectacular. They are just a byproduct of modern aviation. Beware the rabbit hole. That is certainly one viewpoint. Here's another. Look up these two terms: Chemtrails <google> Geo-Engineering<google> Note that one term is the accepted governmental term, and the other is the "conspiracy theorist" term--otherwise quite similar. Then ask yourself, if your government had the license to lie to nightly using MSM about just everyday shit, would they be forthcoming about what they are honestly doing with this tech? That airplanes have been releasing through various methods, chemicals, for many purposes, is proven. Exactly what those purposes are, when and for whom they are doing this, has not yet been nailed down. Certainly there are a great many more airplanes now then there were in the 60's. Persistent contrails in the skies that widen and visibly linger and are persistent are not contrails from jet engines, most of which are high bypass engines of today. Nor is everything labeled a "chemtrail" actually a chemtrail. Chemtrails are just one aspect of geo-engineering--and that has been going on for quite some time and by many different methods. Patented by your government and other companies, I might add. Proven technology. Hundreds of patents. Yes. A very deep rabbit hole, and well shilled. “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to skeptics the shit they're spraying into the sky is meant to make our lives spectacular. Quoting: Chip Either way both sides admit they are spraying something on us. My stance is simply that they are contrail formed by the right conditions in the atmosphere as explained in textbooks. Not that any spraying of anything is taking place, sir. Textbook definition: Contrails are clouds formed when water vapor condenses and freezes around small particles (aerosols) that exist in aircraft exhaust. Some of that water vapor comes from the air around the plane; and, some is added by the exhaust of the aircraft. The exhaust of an aircraft contains both gas (vapor) and solid particles. Both of these are important in the formation of contrails. Some elements of the exhaust gasses are not involved in contrail formation but do constitute air pollution. Emissions include carbon dioxide, water vapor, nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons such as methane, sulfates (SOx), and soot and metal particles. I also am of the belief that wing tips can trigger condensation trails because of fluctuation of air pressure. I'm an aeronautical freak. I've been studying planes forever. There are conditions where contrails form. However...the weather manipulation is what needs to be looked into. Agreed. IF there are substances in our air that are at unsafe levels and are harming us, that is absolutely an issue. I have yet to see evidence that any such thing exists. Claims about barium, strontium and aluminum have other explanations. Asking for evidence of the source of these contimaniates is next obvious step. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look it up Please take the time to learn about all aspects of the issue. Some people like to make assumptions and jump to conclusions. Many people believe the trails in the sky are persistent contrails. And nobody believes contrails are there to make our lives spectacular. They are just a byproduct of modern aviation. Beware the rabbit hole. That is certainly one viewpoint. Here's another. Look up these two terms: Chemtrails <google> Geo-Engineering<google> Note that one term is the accepted governmental term, and the other is the "conspiracy theorist" term--otherwise quite similar. Then ask yourself, if your government had the license to lie to nightly using MSM about just everyday shit, would they be forthcoming about what they are honestly doing with this tech? That airplanes have been releasing through various methods, chemicals, for many purposes, is proven. Exactly what those purposes are, when and for whom they are doing this, has not yet been nailed down. Certainly there are a great many more airplanes now then there were in the 60's. Persistent contrails in the skies that widen and visibly linger and are persistent are not contrails from jet engines, most of which are high bypass engines of today. Nor is everything labeled a "chemtrail" actually a chemtrail. Chemtrails are just one aspect of geo-engineering--and that has been going on for quite some time and by many different methods. Patented by your government and other companies, I might add. Proven technology. Hundreds of patents. Yes. A very deep rabbit hole, and well shilled. I never denied that geoengineering is a real science. I just see no evidence that it's occurring, or that our bodies have been affected by anything associated with such programs. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reply #56508637 by Educated skeptic on 05/01/16 4:31 PM Quoting: Anonymous-Girl Reply #56507059 by Educated skeptic on 05/01/16 2:17 PM Reply #56503284 by Educated skeptic on 05/01/16 10:01 AM Reply #56503158 by Educated skeptic on 05/01/16 9:53 AM Reply #56503076 by Educated skeptic on 05/01/16 9:47 AM Reply #56495415 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 9:18 PM Reply #56494852 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:37 PM Reply #56494814 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:33 PM Reply #56494706 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:24 PM Reply #56494694 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:23 PM Reply #56494581 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:14 PM Reply #56494520 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:10 PM Reply #56494470 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:07 PM Reply #56494380 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 8:00 PM Reply #56494333 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:56 PM Reply #56494269 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:52 PM Reply #56494259 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:52 PM Reply #56494229 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:50 PM Reply #56494184 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:47 PM Reply #56494162 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:45 PM Reply #56494118 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:42 PM Reply #56494056 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:39 PM Reply #56493990 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:35 PM Reply #56493950 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:33 PM Reply #56493833 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:26 PM Reply #56493772 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:20 PM Reply #56493756 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:18 PM Reply #56493622 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:08 PM Reply #56493612 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 7:07 PM Reply #56493488 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:58 PM Reply #56493441 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:55 PM Reply #56493303 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:44 PM Reply #56493182 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:35 PM Reply #56493139 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:32 PM Reply #56493083 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:28 PM Reply #56492769 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:04 PM Reply #56492702 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:00 PM Reply #56492695 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 6:00 PM Reply #56492683 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:59 PM Reply #56492631 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:55 PM Reply #56492607 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:53 PM Reply #56492550 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:50 PM Reply #56492500 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:46 PM Reply #56492425 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:41 PM Reply #56492410 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 5:40 PM Reply #56490902 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 4:01 PM Reply #56490452 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:30 PM Reply #56490409 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:27 PM Reply #56490360 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:24 PM Reply #56490339 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:22 PM Reply #56490189 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:14 PM Reply #56490172 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:13 PM Reply #56490074 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 3:07 PM Reply #56489755 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 2:46 PM Reply #56489610 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 2:36 PM Reply #56489446 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 2:25 PM Reply #56489047 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 1:57 PM Reply #56488974 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 1:53 PM Reply #56488827 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 1:41 PM Reply #56488484 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 1:17 PM Reply #56488456 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 1:16 PM Reply #56487330 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 11:54 AM Reply #56487267 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 11:50 AM Reply #56487222 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 11:47 AM Reply #56487092 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 11:37 AM Reply #56486854 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 11:21 AM Reply #56486560 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 10:59 AM Reply #56486081 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 10:19 AM Reply #56485730 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 9:46 AM Reply #56485495 by Educated skeptic on 04/30/16 9:25 AM Reply #56478971 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:42 PM Reply #56478945 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:40 PM Reply #56478923 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:39 PM Reply #56478911 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:39 PM Reply #56478851 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:36 PM Reply #56478708 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:29 PM Reply #56478626 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:24 PM Reply #56478376 by Educated skeptic on 04/29/16 10:08 PM Wow. And that is nothing! I just copied/pasted for this thread alone. And the point is? Nobody would argue this much against people trying to defend themselves without being paid. They are merely trying to defend themselves from a government that admits openly they've been trying to kill us for nearly 100 years. That's her point. And... :shesright: That's your paranoid opinion. I think truth needs to be defended, especially when fear is being spread unnecessarily. You aren't defending yourself, you're defending the hoax. And the government has not been admitting any such thing for 100 years. That's stupid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to skeptics the shit they're spraying into the sky is meant to make our lives spectacular. Quoting: Chip Either way both sides admit they are spraying something on us. My stance is simply that they are contrail formed by the right conditions in the atmosphere as explained in textbooks. Not that any spraying of anything is taking place, sir. Textbook definition: Contrails are clouds formed when water vapor condenses and freezes around small particles (aerosols) that exist in aircraft exhaust. Some of that water vapor comes from the air around the plane; and, some is added by the exhaust of the aircraft. The exhaust of an aircraft contains both gas (vapor) and solid particles. Both of these are important in the formation of contrails. Some elements of the exhaust gasses are not involved in contrail formation but do constitute air pollution. Emissions include carbon dioxide, water vapor, nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons such as methane, sulfates (SOx), and soot and metal particles. I also am of the belief that wing tips can trigger condensation trails because of fluctuation of air pressure. I'm an aeronautical freak. I've been studying planes forever. There are conditions where contrails form. However...the weather manipulation is what needs to be looked into. On that, me and the chemtrail believers are in 100% agreement. It's buried in pages and pages of posts but at least once on nearly every thread I participate on this topic, I try to make it a point to state; I do not dispute that the government has in the past dropped virus or chemicals on the people and is capable of doing so again. I also do not dispute geo-engineering patents or their potential application. What I dispute is this constant flood of thread on GLP and now social media espousing that every contrail we see that lasts more than a second is some nefarious plot where we are being "sprayed".  |
| Bodiless Forum Administrator User ID: 21228410 United States05/01/2016 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look it up Please take the time to learn about all aspects of the issue. Some people like to make assumptions and jump to conclusions. Many people believe the trails in the sky are persistent contrails. And nobody believes contrails are there to make our lives spectacular. They are just a byproduct of modern aviation. Beware the rabbit hole. That is certainly one viewpoint. Here's another. Look up these two terms: Chemtrails <google> Geo-Engineering<google> Note that one term is the accepted governmental term, and the other is the "conspiracy theorist" term--otherwise quite similar. Then ask yourself, if your government had the license to lie to nightly using MSM about just everyday shit, would they be forthcoming about what they are honestly doing with this tech? That airplanes have been releasing through various methods, chemicals, for many purposes, is proven. Exactly what those purposes are, when and for whom they are doing this, has not yet been nailed down. Certainly there are a great many more airplanes now then there were in the 60's. Persistent contrails in the skies that widen and visibly linger and are persistent are not contrails from jet engines, most of which are high bypass engines of today. Nor is everything labeled a "chemtrail" actually a chemtrail. Chemtrails are just one aspect of geo-engineering--and that has been going on for quite some time and by many different methods. Patented by your government and other companies, I might add. Proven technology. Hundreds of patents. Yes. A very deep rabbit hole, and well shilled. I never denied that geoengineering is a real science. I just see no evidence that it's occurring, or that our bodies have been affected by anything associated with such programs. That is PRECISELY the same argument and technique used against airborne/water cycle contamination of radiation by Fukushima. For exactly the same purpose. It has been known since the 1930's that Fluoride decreases overall IQ levels administered over minute concentrations over time. Water treatment sources still introduce it. Just this past week, in has been announced that the state of Washington is going to spray populated areas with pesticides...for the gypsy moth possible invasion. It is also states that it is thought not to have any proven ill effects upon humans. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Would this not be a chemtrail? You guys need a new playbook Last Edited by Bodiless on 05/01/2016 05:28 PM “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 57754981 United States05/01/2016 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have exposed many real paid shills on GLP. Exposed them to the point where they openly admit it. To the point of giving their business information including phone number of their service. Quoting: Chip So...in reality...since I have experience exposing real life paid social media shills your comment regarding my paranoia is a tell tale sign.  Seriously? C'mon. I've always felt that the whole "shill!" thing was nothing more than delusions of grandeur. I know you have access to IP info and shit if you pull a string or two around here, I've seen that happen before ... are you pulling my leg? "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72110734  Canada05/01/2016 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have exposed many real paid shills on GLP. Exposed them to the point where they openly admit it. To the point of giving their business information including phone number of their service. Quoting: Chip So...in reality...since I have experience exposing real life paid social media shills your comment regarding my paranoia is a tell tale sign. :jay: Seriously? C'mon. I've always felt that the whole "shill!" thing was nothing more than delusions of grandeur. I know you have access to IP info and shit if you pull a string or two around here, I've seen that happen before ... are you pulling my leg? Nope...I have 6 under my belt. 4 of them were hired by Monsanto...1 by another GMO industry that the legit shill would not name. And 1 political shill. It happens. It's real. So...it would not surprise me even 1 iota that there are quite a few here that simply walk away from the debate without outing themselves as such. :truestory: Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody would argue this much against people trying to defend themselves without being paid. They are merely trying to defend themselves from a government that admits openly they've been trying to kill us for nearly 100 years. That's her point. And... :shesright: That's your paranoid opinion. I think truth needs to be defended, especially when fear is being spread unnecessarily. You aren't defending yourself, you're defending the hoax. And the government has not been admitting any such thing for 100 years. That's stupid. Lol. I've never been the "paranoid" type. Just simple logic. It makes sense that you would fight people discovering that geo-engineering has a sinister ploy to lower life spans or spread disease or whatever they could be doing. I have exposed many real paid shills on GLP. Exposed them to the point where they openly admit it. To the point of giving their business information including phone number of their service. So...in reality...since I have experience exposing real life paid social media shills your comment regarding my paranoia is a tell tale sign. :jay: I'm not fighting people. I'm asking for physical evidence. I see no evidence that geoengineering is a sinister ploy...I see claims supported by ignorance. I see no evidence that geoengineering has even begun. Claims that high amounts of elements are being found are unsubstantiated. I can't admit to being a shill of any kind because I'm no such thing. I'd certainly like to see where you have exposed one though. That must have been surreal. Your opinion seems paranoid to me considering the claim you made. Some people spend all day playing/watching sports, drinking, doing drugs, playing video games, watching TV, praying, doing yard work. I post educated opinion on a website that tries to scare people into accepting a hoax about contrails in the sky as truth. I feel I have an obligation based on that education to defend the truth. That truth being that there is no evidence that the trails in the sky are anything but contrails. I am NOT saying that there aren't programs and experiments involving chemicals taking place in the atmosphere that should be monitored and scrutinized. They as two completely different things in my opinion |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 57754981 United States05/01/2016 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Educated skeptic Look it up Please take the time to learn about all aspects of the issue. Some people like to make assumptions and jump to conclusions. Many people believe the trails in the sky are persistent contrails. And nobody believes contrails are there to make our lives spectacular. They are just a byproduct of modern aviation. Beware the rabbit hole. That is certainly one viewpoint. Here's another. Look up these two terms: Chemtrails <google> Geo-Engineering<google> Note that one term is the accepted governmental term, and the other is the "conspiracy theorist" term--otherwise quite similar. Then ask yourself, if your government had the license to lie to nightly using MSM about just everyday shit, would they be forthcoming about what they are honestly doing with this tech? That airplanes have been releasing through various methods, chemicals, for many purposes, is proven. Exactly what those purposes are, when and for whom they are doing this, has not yet been nailed down. Certainly there are a great many more airplanes now then there were in the 60's. Persistent contrails in the skies that widen and visibly linger and are persistent are not contrails from jet engines, most of which are high bypass engines of today. Nor is everything labeled a "chemtrail" actually a chemtrail. Chemtrails are just one aspect of geo-engineering--and that has been going on for quite some time and by many different methods. Patented by your government and other companies, I might add. Proven technology. Hundreds of patents. Yes. A very deep rabbit hole, and well shilled. I never denied that geoengineering is a real science. I just see no evidence that it's occurring, or that our bodies have been affected by anything associated with such programs. That is PRECISELY the same argument and technique used against airborne/water cycle contamination of radiation by Fukushima. For exactly the same purpose. It has been known since the 1930's that Fluoride decreases overall IQ levels administered over minute concentrations over time. Water treatment sources still introduce it. Just this past week, in has been announced that the state of Washington is going to spray populated areas with pesticides...for the gypsy moth possible invasion. It is also states that it is thought not to have any proven ill effects upon humans. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Would this not be a chemtrail? You guys need a new playbook See, this is an argument about semantics. No, I wouldn't call that "Chemtrails". I would call it the name it was given, pesticide spraying. I prefer to use the actual terms instead of encompassing everything under a word that doesn't even exist. Would you call crop dusting "Chemtrails"? If so, why wouldn't you call fertilizing your lawn "Chemtrails"? One is crop dusting, the other is lawn fertilization. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72114117 United States05/01/2016 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am NOT saying that there aren't programs and experiments involving chemicals taking place in the atmosphere that should be monitored and scrutinized. Quoting: Educated skeptic They as two completely different things in my opinion So as long as we don't call these spraying activities "chemtrails" you'd be ready to agree that something extremely unpleasant is being done in the skies over our heads, by persons currently unknown. Correct? |
| Shillalicious User ID: 72123705 Canada05/01/2016 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have exposed many real paid shills on GLP. Exposed them to the point where they openly admit it. To the point of giving their business information including phone number of their service. Quoting: Chip So...in reality...since I have experience exposing real life paid social media shills your comment regarding my paranoia is a tell tale sign. Seriously? C'mon. I've always felt that the whole "shill!" thing was nothing more than delusions of grandeur. I know you have access to IP info and shit if you pull a string or two around here, I've seen that happen before ... are you pulling my leg? Nope...I have 6 under my belt. 4 of them were hired by Monsanto...1 by another GMO industry that the legit shill would not name. And 1 political shill. It happens. It's real. So...it would not surprise me even 1 iota that there are quite a few here that simply walk away from the debate without outing themselves as such.  Are you threatening me with physical violence? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72123431 United States05/01/2016 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope...I have 6 under my belt. 4 of them were hired by Monsanto...1 by another GMO industry that the legit shill would not name. And 1 political shill. Quoting: Chip It happens. It's real. So...it would not surprise me even 1 iota that there are quite a few here that simply walk away from the debate without outing themselves as such. Damn... that is some messed up shit. Although obviously the great GMO experiment is going to probably end terribly, it's never really been high on my priority list of things to research. Kinda thinking of going and looking through my fridge now... :hidetomato: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. How have I been in the wrong here? I use words like "ignorant and stupid", people call me a "cunt scab" and I'm the bad guy?! Gimme a break... |
| Bodiless Forum Administrator User ID: 21228410 United States05/01/2016 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bodiless That is certainly one viewpoint. Here's another. Look up these two terms: Chemtrails <google> Geo-Engineering<google> Note that one term is the accepted governmental term, and the other is the "conspiracy theorist" term--otherwise quite similar. Then ask yourself, if your government had the license to lie to nightly using MSM about just everyday shit, would they be forthcoming about what they are honestly doing with this tech? That airplanes have been releasing through various methods, chemicals, for many purposes, is proven. Exactly what those purposes are, when and for whom they are doing this, has not yet been nailed down. Certainly there are a great many more airplanes now then there were in the 60's. Persistent contrails in the skies that widen and visibly linger and are persistent are not contrails from jet engines, most of which are high bypass engines of today. Nor is everything labeled a "chemtrail" actually a chemtrail. Chemtrails are just one aspect of geo-engineering--and that has been going on for quite some time and by many different methods. Patented by your government and other companies, I might add. Proven technology. Hundreds of patents. Yes. A very deep rabbit hole, and well shilled. I never denied that geoengineering is a real science. I just see no evidence that it's occurring, or that our bodies have been affected by anything associated with such programs. That is PRECISELY the same argument and technique used against airborne/water cycle contamination of radiation by Fukushima. For exactly the same purpose. It has been known since the 1930's that Fluoride decreases overall IQ levels administered over minute concentrations over time. Water treatment sources still introduce it. Just this past week, in has been announced that the state of Washington is going to spray populated areas with pesticides...for the gypsy moth possible invasion. It is also states that it is thought not to have any proven ill effects upon humans. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Would this not be a chemtrail? You guys need a new playbook See, this is an argument about semantics. No, I wouldn't call that "Chemtrails". I would call it the name it was given, pesticide spraying. I prefer to use the actual terms instead of encompassing everything under a word that doesn't even exist. Would you call crop dusting "Chemtrails"? If so, why wouldn't you call fertilizing your lawn "Chemtrails"? One is crop dusting, the other is lawn fertilization. Yes it is chemtrailing. Dispersion of chemicals by airborne means. The more widely used vernacular is by jet aircraft at higher altitudes, but yes, exactly the same principle. No, fertilizing your lawn is not chem-trailing. W E A K “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 57754981 United States05/01/2016 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. How have I been in the wrong here? I use words like "ignorant and stupid", people call me a "cunt scab" and I'm the bad guy?! Gimme a break... I never said you were a bad guy. In fact, we are in agreement a wide margin of the time. I've just noticed that, like Astro, you've gotten to where your patience is quite thin. This post is a great example. Relax man, have a little fun with it. EDIT: MY patience slides often on many topics ... no judgement here. Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 05/01/2016 05:42 PM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Shillalicious User ID: 72123705 Canada05/01/2016 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau Seriously? C'mon. I've always felt that the whole "shill!" thing was nothing more than delusions of grandeur. I know you have access to IP info and shit if you pull a string or two around here, I've seen that happen before ... are you pulling my leg? Nope...I have 6 under my belt. 4 of them were hired by Monsanto...1 by another GMO industry that the legit shill would not name. And 1 political shill. It happens. It's real. So...it would not surprise me even 1 iota that there are quite a few here that simply walk away from the debate without outing themselves as such. Are you threatening me with physical violence? Nope...just your GLP profile. You're about to lose it. I wouldn'the waste my time on you physically. You keep changing the subject toward me and your name has shill in it. Perfect grounds for removal. No worries.. Just canelled my subscription.. Ban away |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am NOT saying that there aren't programs and experiments involving chemicals taking place in the atmosphere that should be monitored and scrutinized. Quoting: Educated skeptic They as two completely different things in my opinion So as long as we don't call these spraying activities "chemtrails" you'd be ready to agree that something extremely unpleasant is being done in the skies over our heads, by persons currently unknown. Correct? Not really.... I feel that if you want to fight city hall about an issue, you have to refer to that issue as its given name. Chemtrails is a vague term but if you want to fight against a specific pesticide release, you should refere to it as what those who are implementing it call it. And the trails in the sky are persistent contrails and are a completely unrelated event. Nothing to do with cloud seeding or geoengineering. Yet, they are called the same thing as the programs that we know involve introducing chemicals into the sky. |
| Shillalicious User ID: 72123705 Canada05/01/2016 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau Seriously? C'mon. I've always felt that the whole "shill!" thing was nothing more than delusions of grandeur. I know you have access to IP info and shit if you pull a string or two around here, I've seen that happen before ... are you pulling my leg? Nope...I have 6 under my belt. 4 of them were hired by Monsanto...1 by another GMO industry that the legit shill would not name. And 1 political shill. It happens. It's real. So...it would not surprise me even 1 iota that there are quite a few here that simply walk away from the debate without outing themselves as such. Are you threatening me with physical violence? Nope...just your GLP profile. You're about to lose it. I wouldn'the waste my time on you physically. You keep changing the subject toward me and your name has shill in it. Perfect grounds for removal. Screenshot saved on my computer shows otherwise.. |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 57754981 United States05/01/2016 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, going back and forth with a mod rarely ends well ... and so far, I've met only one that wasn't unreasonable (and it wasn't Chip). Why push? "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. Well that 'educated' guy is definitely one. Search his name, make sure you put 500 posts, not 50. That's his only interest on GLP? Please. Quoting: Anonymous-Girl And thanks for clarifying my point up there. :) I am relatively certain by the linguistics and content of the posts that he is "Noble". This is just his pet topic, his obsession. He used to be a lot calmer but like Astro, after years and years of dealing with rabid posters his decorum has slid. How have I been in the wrong here? I use words like "ignorant and stupid", people call me a "cunt scab" and I'm the bad guy?! Gimme a break... I never said you were a bad guy. In fact, we are in agreement a wide margin of the time. I've just noticed that, like Astro, you've gotten to where your patience is quite thin. This post is a great example. Relax man, have a little fun with it. EDIT: MY patience slides often on many topics ... no judgement here. I'm purposely being threatened and intimidated for pointing out a lack of physical evidence. Hard to relax. I'll stick to my guns to the end though. It's the right thing to do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Educated skeptic I never denied that geoengineering is a real science. I just see no evidence that it's occurring, or that our bodies have been affected by anything associated with such programs. That is PRECISELY the same argument and technique used against airborne/water cycle contamination of radiation by Fukushima. For exactly the same purpose. It has been known since the 1930's that Fluoride decreases overall IQ levels administered over minute concentrations over time. Water treatment sources still introduce it. Just this past week, in has been announced that the state of Washington is going to spray populated areas with pesticides...for the gypsy moth possible invasion. It is also states that it is thought not to have any proven ill effects upon humans. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Would this not be a chemtrail? You guys need a new playbook See, this is an argument about semantics. No, I wouldn't call that "Chemtrails". I would call it the name it was given, pesticide spraying. I prefer to use the actual terms instead of encompassing everything under a word that doesn't even exist. Would you call crop dusting "Chemtrails"? If so, why wouldn't you call fertilizing your lawn "Chemtrails"? One is crop dusting, the other is lawn fertilization. Yes it is chemtrailing. Dispersion of chemicals by airborne means. The more widely used vernacular is by jet aircraft at higher altitudes, but yes, exactly the same principle. No, fertilizing your lawn is not chem-trailing. W E A K The word has no definition. It's a non word. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72123431 United States05/01/2016 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody really knows. You have dumbasses on both sides with really shitty arguments. Lol. According to the chemtrail believers jet planes are spraying chemicals in the sky onto people causing health issues. According to skeptics the shit they're spraying into the sky is meant to make our lives spectacular. Either way both sides admit they are spraying something on us. Your forgot two other categories... People who don't believe that they are spraying anything other than jet fuel exhaust and People who are open to the possibility that the government is currently engaged in some sort of operation, be it geo-engineering or more nefarious, but that persistent contrails are just that, water vapor from the combustion of jet fuel. I would fall into the latter of the two. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody really knows. You have dumbasses on both sides with really shitty arguments. Lol. According to the chemtrail believers jet planes are spraying chemicals in the sky onto people causing health issues. According to skeptics the shit they're spraying into the sky is meant to make our lives spectacular. Either way both sides admit they are spraying something on us. Your forgot two other categories... People who don't believe that they are spraying anything other than jet fuel exhaust and People who are open to the possibility that the government is currently engaged in some sort of operation, be it geo-engineering or more nefarious, but that persistent contrails are just that, water vapor from the combustion of jet fuel. I would fall into the latter of the two. Same here. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70627520 United States05/01/2016 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so... how come the shills can't convince people that chemtrails aren't real??? all that shilling and still 80% think chemtrails are real!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70823438 where did it all go wrong@!!!  Who's trying to convince you of anything? In actuality, people are asking you to convince them. I'm simply asking for evidence. I'm not here to change your mind about anything. I wouldn't even think of such a thing. |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 57754981 United States05/01/2016 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so... how come the shills can't convince people that chemtrails aren't real??? all that shilling and still 80% think chemtrails are real!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70823438 where did it all go wrong@!!! Assuming you're just not being snarky and seeking an actual answer: When someone spends a lot of time learning something that makes them feel like they're "in the know" and thus superior to others the effect of cognitive dissonance exponentially increases. It's difficult for humans in general to let go of what they think they know and take on new information in it's place. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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| KM User ID: 66639271  Sweden05/02/2016 04:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so... how come the shills can't convince people that chemtrails aren't real??? all that shilling and still 80% think chemtrails are real!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70823438 where did it all go wrong@!!! Who's trying to convince you of anything? In actuality, people are asking you to convince them. I'm simply asking for evidence. I'm not here to change your mind about anything. I wouldn't even think of such a thing. as usual, you're full of shit. you're definitely here to change people's minds, but you're not succeeding. |
