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WHY ARE JEWS AT THE 'HOLOCAUST DENIAL' CONFERENCE?

 
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WHY ARE JEWS AT THE 'HOLOCAUST DENIAL' CONFERENCE?
Why are Jews at the 'Holocaust denial' conference?


BBC News Online
Last Updated: Tuesday, 12 December 2006, 17:00 GMT

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WHO, WHAT, WHY?
The Magazine answers...

Why are Jews attending a conference on the Holocaust in Tehran at which star guests include deniers of the genocide? Clue: they also want an end to the Israeli state.

A handful of Orthodox Jews have attended Iran's controversial conference questioning the Nazi genocide of the Jews - not because they deny the Holocaust but because they object to using it as justification for the existence of Israel.

With their distinctive hats, beards and side locks, these men may, to the untrained eye, look like any other Orthodox believers in Jerusalem or New York. But the Jews who went to Tehran are different.

Some of them belong to Neturei Karta (Guardians of the City), a group of a few thousand people which views Zionism - the movement to establish a Jewish national home or state in what was Palestine - as a "poison" threatening "true Jews".

A representative, UK-based Rabbi Aharon Cohen, told the conference he prayed "that the underlying cause of strife and bloodshed in the Middle East, namely the state known as Israel, be totally and peacefully dissolved".

In its place, Rabbi Cohen said, should be "a regime fully in accordance with the aspirations of the Palestinians when Arab and Jew will be able to live peacefully together as they did for centuries".

Neturei Karta believes the very idea of an Israeli state goes against the Jewish religion.

The book of Jewish law or Talmud, they say, teaches that believers may not use human force to create a Jewish state before the coming of the Messiah.

But how does Neturei Karta and other Orthodox Jews such as Austria-based Rabbi Moishe Ayre Friedman justify attending such a controversial conference?

Rabbi Friedman told BBC Radio Four's PM programme that he was not in Tehran to debate whether the Holocaust happened or not, but to look at its lessons.

He says the Holocaust was being used to legitimise the suffering of other peoples and he wanted to break what he called a taboo on discussing it.

The main thing, he argued, was not Jewish suffering in the past but the use of the Holocaust as a "tool of commercial, military and media power".

In what many other Jews would consider the height of naivety, he commended Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for wanting "a secured future for innocent Jewish people in Europe and elsewhere".

In his speech to the conference, Neturei Karta's Rabbi Cohen said there was no doubt about the Holocaust and it would be "a terrible affront to the memory of those who perished to belittle the guilt of the crime in any way".

However, he also argued that the genocide had been divine will. "The Zionists, with their secular pompous approach behave in complete opposition to this philosophy and dare to say 'Never Again'.

"They have the audacity to think that they can prevent the Almighty from repeating a Holocaust. This is heresy."

Neturei Karta have been condemned by other Orthodox Jews as an extreme fringe movement while the Tehran conference has been denounced by the Israeli parliament.

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Curiosity?
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It's good t know that some of these Orthodox Jews haven't been brainwashed along with the rest of the population. Good article.
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Maybe because its not a "holocaust denial conference"?
Regardless of how western media tries to portray it, the conference plan is to discuss the evidence for the jewish holocaust in a non-threatening environment, free from though police and arrest.

Everyone was invited, both believers and revisionists.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Why must it be a "holocaust denier conference"?
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Because, as surprising as it may be to the parrots who never check any fact, the holocaust is a hoax based on war time zionist propaganda, the final solution was a territorial solution not a gas chamber/crematory oven/carpet made of jewish victim hairs/soap made of jewish victims fat hollywood script as it has been propagated around the western world for 60 years.

Glad yo see that some have realized how their religions has been hijacked and do not blindly follow the zionist made jewish consensus.
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Because, as surprising as it may be to the parrots who never check any fact, the holocaust is a hoax based on war time zionist propaganda, the final solution was a territorial solution not a gas chamber/crematory oven/carpet made of jewish victim hairs/soap made of jewish victims fat hollywood script as it has been propagated around the western world for 60 years.

Glad yo see that some have realized how their religions has been hijacked and do not blindly follow the zionist made jewish consensus.
 Quoting: tachik0ma 168744


Exactly.

There are a lot of anti-Zionist Jews who don't buy in to the Holohoax.

Good for them.
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Don't you worry.

When these miscreants return to their home countries, they will be persecuted to the full extent of the law.

If no laws apply, they will be dealt with by other means.

Examples will be made, and no one will ever dare to question the elders again on this matter.
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"Don't you worry.

When these miscreants return to their home countries, they will be persecuted to the full extent of the law.

If no laws apply, they will be dealt with by other means.

Examples will be made, and no one will ever dare to question the elders again on this matter."



Only in your wild demonic stinkin' dreams jew.
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The real jews see that their country has been hijacked by this crazy parasite called Zionist
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"Don't you worry.

When these miscreants return to their home countries, they will be persecuted to the full extent of the law.

If no laws apply, they will be dealt with by other means.

Examples will be made, and no one will ever dare to question the elders again on this matter."



Only in your wild demonic stinkin' dreams jew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168895


I think the whole J thing has gone totally mental, the only way out is conversion to a peace loving religion, not a lucifer worshiping cult.
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I applaud these guys...if they are wearing the "costume" they are absolutly "orthodox" and are well aware in the history of Israel...

any "good" Jew knows, that the Zionist represent the RACE and not the RELIGION...most Z-ist have no more education on their true idenity than Afro Americans...who think Africa is a country ...

Real Jews, don't live in Israel...they know better...if there are any there it is to educate the others

the media is responsible for 90% of all the misinformation and propaganda that fuels these "sINsational" demonstrations of pure unadulterated IGNORANCE.
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[link to www.seruv.org.il]

We, reserve combat officers and soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, who were raised upon the principles of Zionism, sacrifice and giving to the people of Israel and to the State of Israel, who have always served in the front lines, and who were the first to carry out any mission, light or heavy, in order to protect the State of Israel and strengthen it.

We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, and were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people. We, whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides.

We, who sensed how the commands issued to us in the Territories, destroy all the values we had absorbed while growing up in this country.

We, who understand now that the price of Occupation is the loss of IDF’s human character and the corruption of the entire Israeli society.

We, who know that the Territories are not Israel, and that all settlements are bound to be evacuated in the end.

We hereby declare that we shall not continue to fight this War of the Settlements.

We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.

We hereby declare that we shall continue serving in the Israel Defense Forces in any mission that serves Israel’s defense.
The missions of occupation and oppression do not serve this purpose – and we shall take no part in them.


this was issued in 2002 and never materialized, yet it may be the seed that materialize, once ignorance is dispelled, and grow into a Peace-FULL Middle East.
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Don't you worry.

When these miscreants return to their home countries, they will be persecuted to the full extent of the law.

If no laws apply, they will be dealt with by other means.

Examples will be made, and no one will ever dare to question the elders again on this matter.
 Quoting: Agent Horsheim 5668

"Elders"? You mean Talmudic Rabbis who believe they speak for God, and have a taste for baby boy foreskins?

Liars and hypocrites like their Father; demons in disguise.
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they actually had this on the TVNZ morning news....they interviewed the jews and they said....." we are against the ZIONISTS using the holocaust as an EXCUSE to REBEL against GOD" now im not religious.....but thats a pretty honest and heavy statement
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There's no nutter like a religious nutter..... rolleyes
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For the views (on a variety of topics) of another prominent non-Zionist Israeli Jew, this is an excellent site .... [link to www.strike-the-root.com]
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they look hypocrates, but will give them the benefits of doubt until we get the resulting report of this conference.

Meanwhile i would like to tell the world that the current IRAN and VENEZUALA, PRESIDENTS are GOD sent to humans worldwide. These president really care for humans wellbeing. UNLIKE MOST COUNTRIES PRESIDENTS e.g. USA, GERMANY, FRANCE, AUTRALIA etc who are the devil himself or the devil pawns.

the venezualan's people deserve praise from all over the world for re-electing such a wonderful president the have.
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its my hope that one day all presidents will be for the intrest of those they serve.

Kenya and my country president is one of those countries to be blessed with real human presodents. i hope the people of these countries realize these fact and blessing.

america you are the latest victim of demon or demonic president am sure you still feel the heat of that satan president of yours. these problem is what has brought down great nations world-wide. am sure all american citizens feel me on these one.
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Revelation writes about "The Two Witnesses" could it be they may be the President of Iran and David Duke (or the Venezuala President)?

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