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Seth: The Meaning of Christmas

 
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Seth: The Meaning of Christmas
Seth: The Meaning of Christmas

From ESP Class, December 19, 1972 ‘‘Do not think that Christmas is too camp. In your civilization, when you allow it to, it speaks to the child in you. Accept the child and enjoy the myth, for behind the myth there is truth, and the truth is that you are reborn. And the truth is that the inner self does have the wonder of a child.

‘‘Other stories have been wound about those truths, but the truths remain. The god Pan has as great a validity as Christ has. The names change; the stories change to fit your ideas and your civilization. Now, I prefer Pan piping his magic flutes over the countryside and drinking wine, to a Christ born to be crucified. But that is my idea; you pick your own.

‘‘Behind all the myths is the reality. You are born with the wonder of a child again to remake the world in a new image. Christmas should represent the rebirth of the self. Seth Speaks should be called You Speak. So listen to yourselves.

‘‘It is fashionable to think in terms of Buddha and Eastern religions. And it is not fashionable to think of the infant Christ, for example. So you are ‘in’ if you think of Buddha, and ‘out’ if you dare to let a tear show when they play a Christmas carol. The same thing is involved. You are still dealing with systems of beliefs and myths that have grown through the ages. And each of them has their degree of validity and their degree of distortion.

‘‘Santa Claus – Ho Ho – is relatively harmless considering what your religions have done. If you are bad you get a hunk of coal, and if you are good you get a goody. But what about a god who says if you are good you will go to heaven and if you are bad you burn through all eternity? Place your indignation where it belongs!

‘‘All of the gods in your myths die and are rewarded from the time of your ancient memory, and through the ages of the memory of your race. So it is simply said again and again, in terms that you understand, according to the time in which you think you live: That you are born again and again, and the trials of the gods are your own, and so are their triumphs and their joys.

‘‘The symbols used are also colored by the times, and they are personified, so winter and the cold that sweeps across the earth are used to symbolize the death of the soul. Not a death, however, but transformation. If you understood your myths, you could use them effectively. When you think that they are reality, however, they can entrap you.

‘‘You are the stories that the Soul tells. You are your own stories, and you create your ideas of God according to your interpretation of greater realities that you understand and do not understand. You are catching up with your own understanding, but, as soon as you understand, there is more to learn because creativity is never still and never done and never finished.

‘‘In other worlds there are other Christmas tales, each with their own story and rhyme. But none of them denies the intense and eternal NOW which is being forever created and in which you have your quite natural existence. And none of it denies the joyful vitality that is your own, neither the bewilderment in your eye, nor the pleasure in yours. All of this is meant to illuminate the joy and ease of your own being, and meant to generate within you, if you will forgive me, that old Ho-Ho-Ho – the vitality and the laughter and the joy that is your being. If you understood thoroughly what I am trying to say to you, you would be laughing with me and enjoying your own grizzly beard and hair, and, as you looked around at each other, you would see yourselves as all ages, reborn time and time again and with your identity alive within you now.

‘‘The truth is not something apart from you. You each are truth, speaking and living in physical form. Seth Speaks is within you and not in a book. You are the book. Then joyfully listen to what your feelings tell you. Your thoughts and your feelings are both natural and both yours. And your joy is within you, Christmas or non-Christmas, Santa Claus or no Santa Claus, December 25 or the 4th of July. Your atoms and molecules shout with the joy of their own being; listen to them. Feel within their fleshy substance your own spirituality.

‘‘Look at the Christmas tree; your cells and molecules shine a million times more brightly. Your eyes glitter with far greater light. You are love in corporeal form. You do not have to look for it or wonder where to find it or give it in packages with bright ribbon. You are packages with bright ribbon.

‘‘Christmas is now and was yesterday and will be tomorrow. It is in you, in Buddha, in Pan, in Christ, in Mohammed, in an ant and in a frog, and in your eyes and with you, each of you. You are each, then, Christmas. You shine and glitter whether or not you know it. You shout ‘Merry Christmas’ even when you cry. You cannot deny your own vitality or being.

‘‘Let the vitality and energy, therefore, ring out through your own knowledge. Let it awaken within you the knowledge of your being. Dance through your own molecules and scatter your own petals! And I bid you all a merry Christmas!’’
(thanks ever Seth)

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The early Christians incorperated Jesus's birthdate
into the old Pagan celebration of Yule.
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‘‘Santa Claus – Ho Ho – is relatively harmless considering what your religions have done. If you are bad you get a hunk of coal, and if you are good you get a goody. But what about a god who says if you are good you will go to heaven and if you are bad you burn through all eternity? Place your indignation where it belongs!""

Great quote. Gotta remember this to pass on to Spirit of Truth..
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Great post, gooderboy, I have read a lot of the Seth stuff but I hadn't seen that before.

I see old "Lone Star" got you, I will remedy that.

A couple more Christmassy stars to decorate your post.
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bump
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xmas peaceand good will to alll creation.
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Thanks for posting Seth's musings on Christmas, Gooderboy!

I'll pass it on to my friends and family!

Blessings, YCS
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Great post, gooderboy, I have read a lot of the Seth stuff but I hadn't seen that before.

I see old "Lone Star" got you, I will remedy that.

A couple more Christmassy stars to decorate your post.
 Quoting: mercury2


.... thanks a lot M2... and I hadn't ever read it either. I happened to see it on a Seth forum I was on, and I just had to folder it. I think though, that it's in the fairly new book out, 'The Early Sessions'.... which, and sorry to say, I haven't gotten to yet, lol. Thanks again, and a very Merry Christmas to ya too.

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Is there a link to this Seth? I have read some of it. I seen some bulletins. Maybe I should read more. I feel there is something thee to learn.

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Is there a link to this Seth? I have read some of it. I seen some bulletins. Maybe I should read more. I feel there is something thee to learn.

yoda
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.... there sure is Flint, just google Seth and/or Jane Roberts and you'll find lots and lots of goodies on Seth out there... and too, if ya have any questions on any of Seth's stuff that ya may come up with, please feel more than free to give me a holler and I will do me best to be of some help to ya there too.

w/luv,hi
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And, and, and.... you are for sure welcome there YCS, and thanks.
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Complete and utter bullshit.

Seth = Satan!

Wake up people. It's the same old message over and over again.
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gooderboy, still howling with the wolves? Must be cold out there in the night..
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Jane Roberts went totally mad before she died, Seth didnt give her very good info, apparently.
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Right on, ac 172895! Seth does equal satan. Seth is a channeled entity, which equals demon. There are many such being channeled now, and they are all leading people away from the one true God, the living God, the Lord Jesus Christ. Like Jane Roberts, the deceived who listen to these demons may find themselves not only insane eventually, but eternally dammed
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Is there a link to this Seth? I have read some of it. I seen some bulletins. Maybe I should read more. I feel there is something thee to learn.

yoda


.... there sure is Flint, just google Seth and/or Jane Roberts and you'll find lots and lots of goodies on Seth out there... and too, if ya have any questions on any of Seth's stuff that ya may come up with, please feel more than free to give me a holler and I will do me best to be of some help to ya there too.

w/luv,hi
just me

And, and, and.... you are for sure welcome there YCS, and thanks.
 Quoting: gooderboy

Thanks Gooderboy. And all those who think Seth is a demon, Know your enemy, that means get to know him. We are our worst enemy, not Satan.

peace
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xmas
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seth is most definitely a demon
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Complete and utter bullshit.

Seth = Satan!

Wake up people. It's the same old message over and over again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 172895


... wrong again, lol... now give it oh but one more try.
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gooderboy, still howling with the wolves? Must be cold out there in the night..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 172895


... you betcha... always and for-ever too...lol, wolves are like totally kewl... and, and, and... no and not at all, lol... don't ya know that gortex and thinsulate took care of that one a long and a long time ago now.
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Right on, ac 172895! Seth does equal satan. Seth is a channeled entity, which equals demon. There are many such being channeled now, and they are all leading people away from the one true God, the living God, the Lord Jesus Christ. Like Jane Roberts, the deceived who listen to these demons may find themselves not only insane eventually, but eternally dammed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 130373


... now there's a really rich one for ya, lol, you be funny... may I suggest you maybe read a really gooder book, and just so that you may somewhat, and hopefully speaking too, be able to get your act together a bit there... and the book is called the Bible.
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Jane Roberts went totally mad before she died, Seth didnt give her very good info, apparently.
 Quoting: God 172929


... dear God, you seem to have a rather insincere case of impotency a'goin' on for ya there, lol.. and cuz no she didn't, and not at all... and yes, Seth gave her very gooder info, and she admitedly chose not to take it.
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seth is most definitely a demon
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... so solly challie... and you are definitely wrong again too.... lol, so there.
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"Thanks Gooderboy. And all those who think Seth is a demon, Know your enemy, that means get to know him. We are our worst enemy, not Satan.

peace"


... you are for sure welcome... and, and, and too, lol... they're just scared-y cats is all.... and I mean really... who else would seek out scape-goats for to play their very owned blame-games on anyways?

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Oh, I love the Seth stuff!

Yhanks, Gooderboy.

Oh, and ignore the fundies. They mean well, but are a little misguided.
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Oh, I love the Seth stuff!

Yhanks, Gooderboy.

Oh, and ignore the fundies. They mean well, but are a little misguided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173115


... you are welcome and thanks a lot, and I sure hear ya too, lol... mehopes you be having a very Merry Christmas there, and thanks again.
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One of my favorite passages from the Seth material. Deep inside we know the deep truths in his words. A toast to all our vitality!
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Seth Rules! People who spout "Seth is a Demon" are stuck in old outdated belief systems and have never even read a single Seth Book, The Seth Material is the highest source of Truth I have ever come across.
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Re: Seth: The Meaning of Christmas
Good stuff but I think Joseph Campbell would have said pretty much the same thing about myths. You don't need a channeled entity or a demon to see that our stories have psychological value but not to be taken literally.
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Living in any way according to Seth Speaks...

Is the same as living according to LaVeyan satanist beliefs....

i will take my God, my Guns, and you can try to cast a spell on me....

but i will win!

because God pwned Seth
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The purpose of Christmas is to prepare foundation for Lent.

Penitence and self denial.

I prefer to sleep outside on the ground under an open sky when the temp is around 35 degrees!
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The purpose of Christmas is to prepare foundation for Lent.

Penitence and self denial.

I prefer to sleep outside on the ground under an open sky when the temp is around 35 degrees!

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