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Once the Chinese get there (gasp, their goal is to land a man on the moon by 2020, the same year USA wants a lunar base complete) the American's will have already "returned" and set up fake Apollo landing sites to perpetrate the original landing hoax of 1969.
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Once the Chinese get there (gasp, their goal is to land a man on the moon by 2020, the same year USA wants a lunar base complete) the American's will have already "returned" and set up fake Apollo landing sites to perpetrate the original landing hoax of 1969.
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Unfortunately for you, the science will confirm that the equipment has been up there since the late 1960's and early 1970s, left behind when NASA astronauts went to the moon exactly as they claim.

A simple examination of the surfaces if the equipment will tell the story. Strikes by cosmic dust particles, perhaps even micrometeroids will date quite accurately, within 2% (over 50 years to 2020, that is within 12 months or so) how long the equipment has been in place on the surface. On top of this, there is the deterioration of the surfaces of the equipment and the change in their chemical composition due to years of unremitting cosmic radiation; an even more accurate measure.

But hey, why should you believe me? Well, I don't expect you to. The difference between you (a moon hoax believing nut-job) and me (a rational, clear-thinking human) is that when any of US debunk YOUR beliefs using tried and proven science, all you have to do is make up some new and unlikely idea, usually the first one that pops into your alleged brain. Either that or you call the well proven science into question. You are not at all constrained by the requirement to prove anything; you just say it, and expect everyone to believe its so. WE on the other are constrained to prove our beliefs scientifically, with research and references.

To paraphrase John Henry Newman, conspiracy theorists and hoax believers demand strict proof for opinions they dislike, but are satisfied with mere hints for what they are inclined to accept.
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Once the Chinese get there (gasp, their goal is to land a man on the moon by 2020, the same year USA wants a lunar base complete) the American's will have already "returned" and set up fake Apollo landing sites to perpetrate the original landing hoax of 1969.
 Quoting: markusmaximus 148742


Unfortunately for you, the science will confirm that the equipment has been up there since the late 1960's and early 1970s, left behind when NASA astronauts went to the moon exactly as they claim.

A simple examination of the surfaces if the equipment will tell the story. Strikes by cosmic dust particles, perhaps even micrometeroids will date quite accurately, within 2% (over 50 years to 2020, that is within 12 months or so) how long the equipment has been in place on the surface. On top of this, there is the deterioration of the surfaces of the equipment and the change in their chemical composition due to years of unremitting cosmic radiation; an even more accurate measure.

But hey, why should you believe me? Well, I don't expect you to. The difference between you (a moon hoax believing nut-job) and me (a rational, clear-thinking human) is that when any of US debunk YOUR beliefs using tried and proven science, all you have to do is make up some new and unlikely idea, usually the first one that pops into your alleged brain. Either that or you call the well proven science into question. You are not at all constrained by the requirement to prove anything; you just say it, and expect everyone to believe its so. WE on the other are constrained to prove our beliefs scientifically, with research and references.

To paraphrase John Henry Newman, conspiracy theorists and hoax believers demand strict proof for opinions they dislike, but are satisfied with mere hints for what they are inclined to accept.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^
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It's funny that you are so convinced it happened based on what you have seen on t.v. yet anyone that opposes your beleif is outright wrong. Have you actually seen the moon's surface, where you in orbit around it at the time? don't denegrate other peoples views based on what you believe given that both viewpoints have no real evidence to back them up.

Personally the jury is out for me until hard evidence comes to light one way or another, but don't act knowledgable about a subject you cannot know anything about.
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It's funny that you are so convinced it happened based on what you have seen on t.v. yet anyone that opposes your beleif is outright wrong. Have you actually seen the moon's surface, where you in orbit around it at the time? don't denegrate other peoples views based on what you believe given that both viewpoints have no real evidence to back them up.

Personally the jury is out for me until hard evidence comes to light one way or another, but don't act knowledgable about a subject you cannot know anything about.
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I believe it happened because the science tells me it did. The science is the hard evidence, and its all the evidence that is needed.

I don't have to actually see snow, or a lake or the ocean, to know what they are made of; the science tells me what they are made of;

I don't have to see the interior of the Sun know know how it works, because the science tells me how it works.

Hoax Believers aren't wrong because they oppose my beliefs, the are wrong because they don't understand the science involved.... if they did understand it, they wouldn't even be Hoax Believers in the first place.

The fact that so many of them don't even believe that rockets work in space because "there is no air for them to push against" tells me that they haven't the foggiest understanding of basic science whatsoever. When you try to explain Newton's Laws of Motion, they try to tell you that Newton was wrong. And therein lies another issue; no matter how many well known and well proven scientific principles (ones on which the whole of the Laws of Physics are based) are brought into evidence, all from the most eminent and respected of scientists; Newton, Einstein, Tsiolkovsky, Goddard etc, the average conspiracy theorist just dismisses them as "wrong" with a wave of the hand.
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Wow, I guess when you invest that much in a delusion it must be impossible to give it up and admit it was all a lie.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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If they did then you would just say it's photoshopped, like the shots from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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OP, are you stupid?
Is that your problem?
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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If they did then you would just say it's photoshopped, like the shots from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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Surely you're not referring to those images of shadows of...something...on the lunar surface? Ya, those were REAL definitive. lol

Turn Hubble on the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites, and let's have a look. Experts would be able to tell if they were genuine images or not.

A couple years ago, NASA made headlines by saying they were going to write a book that would finally and definitively put an end to the Apollo lunar landing doubters. It was on the front pages of newspapers, headlines on t.v. and radio news, and on the talk show circuit. Then a funny thing happened. NASA quietly cancelled the project. But THAT didn't make any headlines.

Textbook psychological operation: Make headlines that you're going to do something, so it's in everyone's mind that it's as good as done: "NASA is going to PROVE we landed on the moon with Apollo. That settles that." So the perception is there. But then the REALITY doesn't pan out, because that would subject it to scrutiny.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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Simply because the resolution of the HST is not sufficient see anything that small.

The theoretical resolution of a telescope is calculated using the formula

R = 11.6 / D

where R is the the angular size of the object in arc-seconds and D is the diameter of the mirror in centimeters. The HST mirror is 2.4 meters (240 cm), so we can calculate that its theoretical resolution is 11.6 / 240 = 0.05 arc-seconds. (For comparison, the diameter of the moon as viewed from the Earth is half a degree, about 1800 arc-seconds

The is a slight problem with this however. Due to factors involving interference patterns and the wavelength range of visible light, the smallest resolvable object is about twice the theoretical resolution. This is given using something called Nyquist's Theorem; you can read about it here.

[link to searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com]

So effectively, the HST's resolution is about 0.1 of an arc-second. But the biggest things the astronauts left on the moon are the lunar descent stages. They are 4 meters across, and since they are about 400,000,000 meters away, their angular diameter is only 0.002 arc-seconds.

If you don't believe me, you can calculate this for yourself. The formula is...

d / D x 206265 = R

where d is the actual size of an object in meters, D distance to that object in meters, and R is the resulting angular size in arc-seconds

This makes the descent stages 50 times too small to be detected by the HST. They would have to be a lot bigger to be seen at all. In fact, if you do the math (set Hubble’s resolution to 0.1 arc-seconds and the distance to 400,000 kilometers) you see that Hubble’s resolution on the Moon is about 200 meters! In other words, even a football stadium on the Moon would look like a dot to Hubble.

This fact surprises a lot of people (it certainly surprised me until I understood THE SCIENCE). They’re used to seeing the detail in HST images, galaxies and wisps of gas in beautiful nebulae. But those objects are far, far larger than the Moon. The HST's resolution is 0.1 arc-seconds no matter how far away an object is. Those wisps of gas appear to be finely resolved, but they’re billions of kilometers across.

Using a bigger telescope won’t help much. You’d need a mirror 50 times bigger than Hubble’s to see the descent stages at all, and we don’t have a 100 meter telescope handy.

So, when you understand the science involved, you understand why the scientists will not point HST at the moon. It would be an utter waste of valuable telescope time.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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The Hubble doesn't have the resolution necessary to see the artifacts left behind. Its best resolution for the distance of the Moon is about 200 meters per pixel IIRC.
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To paraphrase John Henry Newman, conspiracy theorists and hoax believers demand strict proof for opinions they dislike, but are satisfied with mere hints for what they are inclined to accept.
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Ooh, I think I just found my sig for the month.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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They did photograph that part of the Moon.

Hubble isn't magic. In fact, the primary mirror is actually SMALLER than that of several major Earth-bound telescopes.
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You need to read ONE SMALL STEP The Great Moon Hoax by Gerhard Wisnewski, then you will realise the whole lot was a gigantic lie perpetrated by the USSR and the USA in order to fleece it's populations of trillions of $$'s in order to fund armament's black budgets and line the pockets of the elite.....read about the deaths of outspoken engineers and astronauts and the way in which there was NO WAY the modules could withstand bombardment from cosmic radiation with 3mm of aluminium 4 to 5mm of lead sheet, and driven by computers less powerful than the average front loading washing machine built today.

Man has visited the moon but not by man made machinery, but by extraterrestrial space craft.

Then there is the Van Allen Belts................

you can download parts of the book on google but I purchased it for the whole sordid story
NOW WHAT...anyone got any good news for a change
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Simply because the resolution of the HST is not sufficient see anything that small.

The theoretical resolution of a telescope is calculated using the formula

R = 11.6 / D

where R is the the angular size of the object in arc-seconds and D is the diameter of the mirror in centimeters. The HST mirror is 2.4 meters (240 cm), so we can calculate that its theoretical resolution is 11.6 / 240 = 0.05 arc-seconds. (For comparison, the diameter of the moon as viewed from the Earth is half a degree, about 1800 arc-seconds

The is a slight problem with this however. Due to factors involving interference patterns and the wavelength range of visible light, the smallest resolvable object is about twice the theoretical resolution. This is given using something called Nyquist's Theorem; you can read about it here.

[link to searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com]

So effectively, the HST's resolution is about 0.1 of an arc-second. But the biggest things the astronauts left on the moon are the lunar descent stages. They are 4 meters across, and since they are about 400,000,000 meters away, their angular diameter is only 0.002 arc-seconds.

If you don't believe me, you can calculate this for yourself. The formula is...

d / D x 206265 = R

where d is the actual size of an object in meters, D distance to that object in meters, and R is the resulting angular size in arc-seconds

This makes the descent stages 50 times too small to be detected by the HST. They would have to be a lot bigger to be seen at all. In fact, if you do the math (set Hubble’s resolution to 0.1 arc-seconds and the distance to 400,000 kilometers) you see that Hubble’s resolution on the Moon is about 200 meters! In other words, even a football stadium on the Moon would look like a dot to Hubble.

This fact surprises a lot of people (it certainly surprised me until I understood THE SCIENCE). They’re used to seeing the detail in HST images, galaxies and wisps of gas in beautiful nebulae. But those objects are far, far larger than the Moon. The HST's resolution is 0.1 arc-seconds no matter how far away an object is. Those wisps of gas appear to be finely resolved, but they’re billions of kilometers across.

Using a bigger telescope won’t help much. You’d need a mirror 50 times bigger than Hubble’s to see the descent stages at all, and we don’t have a 100 meter telescope handy.

So, when you understand the science involved, you understand why the scientists will not point HST at the moon. It would be an utter waste of valuable telescope time.
 Quoting: smartcooky 19042427


lala

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lala
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Thank you for that. Its brilliant!!

By using just one smiley, you have saved me the time and effort of writing a long post that sums up the mentality of the average moon hoax believing nut-bar!!
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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Hoaxies already ignore a Mount Everest of evidence.
They would just handwave it away.

If it were even possible.
You not knowing it is impossible to image the Apollo relics with the HST once again demonstrates that hoaxies are scientifically illiterate.

If they did then you would just say it's photoshopped, like the shots from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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Surely you're not referring to those images of shadows of...something...on the lunar surface? Ya, those were REAL definitive. lol
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Case in point.
The energy produced by hoaxie-handwaving could power a small nation.


[link to www.youtube.com] (Best viewd in HD.)

A couple years ago, NASA made headlines by saying they were going to write a book that would finally and definitively put an end to the Apollo lunar landing doubters. It was on the front pages of newspapers, headlines on t.v. and radio news, and on the talk show circuit. Then a funny thing happened. NASA quietly cancelled the project.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster

CONGRESS cancelled it.
They told NASA not to waste public funds on trying to educate idiots.

But THAT didn't make any headlines.
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Blame the journos.
book

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the saddest thing about the hoax believers request to have Hubble look at the Moon is it has ALREADY HAPPENED. They just haven't bothered to look for the pictures. Apparently Google doesn't work for them. Of course it still doesn't have the resolution to see the hardware left behind but they've never let science stop them before.
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CONGRESS cancelled it.
They told NASA not to waste public funds on trying to educate idiots.
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Mitch Romney, take special note!!

Honestly, dealing with the HB idiots can be tiresome. Every time they ask a question and get an answer that has its basis in sound logical, scientific and mathematical principles, one of two things usually happens.

- They can't understand it because they are too stupid to

- They DO understand it, realise they are wrong, but dismiss it with a wave of the hand, and go another subject.

I am a firm believer in Occam's Razor, which holds that where several different theories are competing, the one with the simplest premise and least number unlikely scenarios is almost always the right one. Which is more likely?

a. That one nation spent billions of dollars over a period of a few years putting a man on the moon?

or

b. The one nation spent billions of dollars developing all of the hardware, equipment, engineering systems, backup systems, support systems, electronics & avionics, then doing all the test flights and rocket launches, employing between a quarter of a million and a half a million people from dozens of countries, only to end up faking the landings six/seven times in a conspiracy, and then end up lumbering themselves with the astronomical ongoing costs of maintaining the conspiracy for over 40 years, and all the while, not one of the up to half a million people involved has every said anything about it to any one?
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No Man Or Women has ever been to the moon , And Never will!
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No Man Or Women has ever been to the moon , And Never will!
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And don't bother asking him to prove that ridiculous statement either!
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Trampolines and after helmet running please with some vacation cards .. Please its funny.
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I hate this hell hole ..
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You need to read ONE SMALL STEP The Great Moon Hoax by Gerhard Wisnewski, then you will realise the whole lot was a gigantic lie perpetrated by the USSR and the USA in order to fleece it's populations of trillions of $$'s in order to fund armament's black budgets and line the pockets of the elite.....read about the deaths of outspoken engineers and astronauts and the way in which there was NO WAY the modules could withstand bombardment from cosmic radiation with 3mm of aluminium 4 to 5mm of lead sheet, and driven by computers less powerful than the average front loading washing machine built today.

Man has visited the moon but not by man made machinery, but by extraterrestrial space craft.

Then there is the Van Allen Belts................

you can download parts of the book on google but I purchased it for the whole sordid story
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I read it, very convincing!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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It's funny that you are so convinced it happened based on what you have seen on t.v. yet anyone that opposes your beleif is outright wrong. Have you actually seen the moon's surface, where you in orbit around it at the time? don't denegrate other peoples views based on what you believe given that both viewpoints have no real evidence to back them up.

Personally the jury is out for me until hard evidence comes to light one way or another, but don't act knowledgable about a subject you cannot know anything about.
 Quoting: Paz 24933263



I believe it happened because the science tells me it did. The science is the hard evidence, and its all the evidence that is needed.

I don't have to actually see snow, or a lake or the ocean, to know what they are made of; the science tells me what they are made of;

I don't have to see the interior of the Sun know know how it works, because the science tells me how it works.

Hoax Believers aren't wrong because they oppose my beliefs, the are wrong because they don't understand the science involved.... if they did understand it, they wouldn't even be Hoax Believers in the first place.

The fact that so many of them don't even believe that rockets work in space because "there is no air for them to push against" tells me that they haven't the foggiest understanding of basic science whatsoever. When you try to explain Newton's Laws of Motion, they try to tell you that Newton was wrong. And therein lies another issue; no matter how many well known and well proven scientific principles (ones on which the whole of the Laws of Physics are based) are brought into evidence, all from the most eminent and respected of scientists; Newton, Einstein, Tsiolkovsky, Goddard etc, the average conspiracy theorist just dismisses them as "wrong" with a wave of the hand.
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Laughing at your silly answers "the science tells me". What the hell does that mean? Nothing.

The best 'evidence' they had to show we went there was so obviously faked. That is the images and videos were faked. That's the evidence you dumb stupid halfwit shill dill. Can't get past it.
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Why is NASA unwilling to aim the Hubble telescope at the alleged Apollo lunar landing sites and show us once and for all?
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lol, because you can see it with a land based telescope, nutball.

how about reviewing the Japanese photomaps of the moon, which was made fairly recently. Are the Japs in on it too?
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It's funny that you are so convinced it happened based on what you have seen on t.v. yet anyone that opposes your beleif is outright wrong. Have you actually seen the moon's surface, where you in orbit around it at the time? don't denegrate other peoples views based on what you believe given that both viewpoints have no real evidence to back them up.

Personally the jury is out for me until hard evidence comes to light one way or another, but don't act knowledgable about a subject you cannot know anything about.
 Quoting: Paz 24933263



I believe it happened because the science tells me it did. The science is the hard evidence, and its all the evidence that is needed.

I don't have to actually see snow, or a lake or the ocean, to know what they are made of; the science tells me what they are made of;

I don't have to see the interior of the Sun know know how it works, because the science tells me how it works.

Hoax Believers aren't wrong because they oppose my beliefs, the are wrong because they don't understand the science involved.... if they did understand it, they wouldn't even be Hoax Believers in the first place.

The fact that so many of them don't even believe that rockets work in space because "there is no air for them to push against" tells me that they haven't the foggiest understanding of basic science whatsoever. When you try to explain Newton's Laws of Motion, they try to tell you that Newton was wrong. And therein lies another issue; no matter how many well known and well proven scientific principles (ones on which the whole of the Laws of Physics are based) are brought into evidence, all from the most eminent and respected of scientists; Newton, Einstein, Tsiolkovsky, Goddard etc, the average conspiracy theorist just dismisses them as "wrong" with a wave of the hand.
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Laughing at your silly answers "the science tells me". What the hell does that mean? Nothing.

The best 'evidence' they had to show we went there was so obviously faked. That is the images and videos were faked. That's the evidence you dumb stupid halfwit shill dill. Can't get past it.
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Multiple countries participated in the mission, tracking the Apollo craft there and back, providing comm relays, etc. and have shared in the booty brought back, moon rocks, etc. The Japanese have wonderful pics of the landing site thanks to their recent moon mission. You have an illness. You need to seek help and perhaps get medication.
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Re: NASA - Going to the Moon for REAL this time - so the Chinese don't find out the Apollo landings were faked!



I don't have to see the interior of the Sun know know how it works, because the science tells me how it works.



Are you kidding. they still have no idea how the sun works in the middle. its all theory buddy. get a life. a lot of the science you so trustingly believe in is like you believing everything in the bible. just because they come out with a plausible theory doesnt mean it wont be hit out of the ball park at a later date... which is what happens to most theorys. rant