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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71360404 Canada 05/14/2016 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. Pretty sure it was a joke. You can see the object on the right does not fit in the screen clip with the sun, and it appears to be ridged like a finger print. I think its a thumb, but I'm sure I will be called a shill Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65835896 Use discernment. The clip is not really a good copy and has been edited. It would be fun to consider a second sun, but I think we would see it. You can see it you idiots. Get a welders mask or goggles and start looking at the sun. Its right beside it now what ever it is or should I say what ever they are. They are inbound. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72069981 United States 05/14/2016 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. Of course we have a second star its Jupiter. Its just wasn't big enough to go star mode, but it has all those elements that make a star (aka hydrogen and helium). Its known as a failed star. The question is how close was it to becoming a star, and are there any more planets out past pluto that have these elements and the size to go star mode. People have a tendency to believe that if we had a second sun it would behave just like our first sun and burn us up and consume us, but actually suns come in all sizes and energies. If a mini star (bigger than jupiter obviously) was out far enough in the solor system if would be difficult to detect. Therefore I can't dismiss all claims of a second sun until we explore the deep regions of our system. Anyone that says we unequivocally do not have a second sun lacks the iq to think for them self and their opinion should not be considered for much more than that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71360404 Canada 05/14/2016 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. A Poll was recently taken in which it was expressed that less than 10% of people NOW do NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING said on the Main Stream News. Main Stream News has lost over 60% of it Audience of the past decade because people know they are being lied too and the news is squewed So a more important question to ask would be if it is on TV then it is lies. The alternative NEWS the INTERNET is the only form of believable information now available to the public and that's why they are trying to right now gain control of it and shut it down. Control and remove all they do not like which is happening already. They hack people accounts. Shut down their accounts. Remove their videos. A lot of video are removed on a daily basis. They leave a few up for debate and the stuff that can be debated away for the stupid sheep that think their government would protect them still. Fools all of you that think the building of the bunkers is not real. Why so many of them worldwide...? CAUSE SOMTHINGS ABOUT TO HAPPEN! |
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Hydra User ID: 44181765 Germany 05/14/2016 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. The Pacific Northwest Regional Observatory employee leaked this bone chilling statement: "This 'second sun' which they are calling 'GTY421', is approaching Earth at a rapid speed of 345,000 miles per hour. This is an increase compared to last week's speed calculated at 185,000 miles per hour. ... ETA of impact – September 28 between 8 AM and 10 AM PST." [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Video of 2015? ETA of impact – September 28 ....... 2015? Did I miss something? Are we all dead? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Earth420 User ID: 6106769 United States 05/14/2016 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. The Pacific Northwest Regional Observatory employee leaked this bone chilling statement: "This 'second sun' which they are calling 'GTY421', is approaching Earth at a rapid speed of 345,000 miles per hour. This is an increase compared to last week's speed calculated at 185,000 miles per hour. ... ETA of impact – September 28 between 8 AM and 10 AM PST." [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Video of 2015? ETA of impact – September 28 ....... 2015? Did I miss something? Are we all dead? . Weird! Love to Mother Earth Always |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 72181208 United States 05/14/2016 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. ... Quoting: 74444 IDW, I love you. How big, precisely, was this "radical" change? And how do you explain permanently mounted telescopes still aligning with and tracking the heavens as predicted, including telescopes about a century or more old? How did they *magically* adapt to such a wobble, if it is so "radical?" You should read the article before responding. Just some advice. NO sir, he is NOT right, and you ARE NOT and cannot possibly be a competent astronomer if you don't realize how a 180 degree phase change in the chandler wobble would effect tracking objects in space with a telescope. It is also notable and worth mentioning to add that this is the same year the native peoples of the arctic region noticed that the Sun wasn't rising in the same place and time as in previous years. Many of the same people who construct straw men and knock them down with ridiculous stories like this one on this thread were the same ones "debunking" these elders, men noted primarilly for their honest integrity above all else. To put it bluntly, they don't know how to lie, and wouldn't if they did. DO you, "mr"Astro? OK, I'l bite... "a 180 degree phase change in the chandler wobble would effect tracking objects in space with a telescope" So tell us, exactly how much, in degrees, minutes and seconds (or decimal degrees if that's too hard to figure out) would this effect on tracking be? Unless you can quantify the change, neither side in the debate can say whether it's large enough to be noticed, or small enough to be ignored... Chandler wobble is measured in milliarcseconds. Its amplitude is sub-arcsecond (1/3600th of a degree) making it far too small to matter to telescope tracking. Last Edited by Astromut on 05/14/2016 10:13 AM |
Earth420 User ID: 6106769 United States 05/14/2016 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. NASA Study Solves Two Mysteries About Wobbling EarthWobbling Earth The relationship between continental water mass and the east-west wobble in Earth's spin axis.Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles. Before about 2000, Earth's spin axis was drifting toward Canada (green arrow, left globe). Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles. Instead, it wobbles irregularly over time, drifting toward North America throughout most of the 20th Century (green arrow). That direction has changed drastically due to changes in water mass on Earth. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech › Larger image Using satellite data on how water moves around Earth, NASA scientists have solved two mysteries about wobbles in the planet's rotation -- one new and one more than a century old. The research may help improve our knowledge of past and future climate. Although a desktop globe always spins smoothly around the axis running through its north and south poles, a real planet wobbles. Earth's spin axis drifts slowly around the poles; the farthest away it has wobbled since observations began is 37 feet (12 meters). These wobbles don't affect our daily life, but they must be taken into account to get accurate results from GPS, Earth-observing satellites and observatories on the ground. In a paper published today in Science Advances, Surendra Adhikari and Erik Ivins of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, researched how the movement of water around the world contributes to Earth's rotational wobbles. Earlier studies have pinpointed many connections between processes on Earth's surface or interior and our planet's wandering ways. For example, Earth's mantle is still readjusting to the loss of ice on North America after the last ice age, and the reduced mass beneath that continent pulls the spin axis toward Canada at the rate of a few inches each year. But some motions are still puzzling. A Sharp Turn to the East Around the year 2000, Earth's spin axis took an abrupt turn toward the east and is now drifting almost twice as fast as before, at a rate of almost 7 inches (17 centimeters) a year. "It's no longer moving toward Hudson Bay, but instead toward the British Isles," said Adhikari. "That's a massive swing." Adhikari and Ivins set out to explain this unexpected change. [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] Just what they're putting out... Peace Love to Mother Earth Always |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72153121 United Kingdom 05/14/2016 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. OK, I'll bite... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72153121 "a 180 degree phase change in the chandler wobble would effect tracking objects in space with a telescope" So tell us, exactly how much, in degrees, minutes and seconds (or decimal degrees if that's too hard to figure out) would this effect on tracking be? Unless you can quantify the change, neither side in the debate can say whether it's large enough to be noticed, or small enough to be ignored... Chandler wobble is measured in milliarcseconds. Its amplitude is sub-arcsecond (1/3600th of a degree) making it far too small to matter to telescope tracking. Bah! You're giving him the answer. I wanted to see if he could come up with something himself (althought looking at his track record, it would be a first!). |
Earth420 User ID: 6106769 United States 05/14/2016 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. The Pacific Northwest Regional Observatory employee leaked this bone chilling statement: "This 'second sun' which they are calling 'GTY421', is approaching Earth at a rapid speed of 345,000 miles per hour. This is an increase compared to last week's speed calculated at 185,000 miles per hour. ... ETA of impact – September 28 between 8 AM and 10 AM PST." [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Video of 2015? ETA of impact – September 28 ....... 2015? Did I miss something? Are we all dead? . I've never seen these links show up with this date... Could it be posted new and the date changed to show they told us of the second sun and it approaching us? Love to Mother Earth Always |
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SN7 User ID: 51691602 United States 05/14/2016 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. Asstroll said the same thing in his troll post. According to this webcam in Australia, Nibiru has already hit earth. He's mocking you and you don't even realize it. Amazing. Quoting: Dr. Astro This was my reply. Then he's a genuine fear mongering prick. I,m sure there are loads of folk who tune into him that are not aware of the second sun hypothesis. Should get his balls kicked if that's the case. If that's how a supposed asstronomer gets his rocks off then it makes all you supposed asstronomers look like fucking arseholes. Awww, you're a bit butthurt. :thassabutthurt: Ironically I suspect that's exactly what Paul was going for. Really amazing this asshole "Dr" Asstro hasnt been banned yet "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
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SN7 User ID: 51691602 United States 05/14/2016 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. Pretty sure it was a joke. You can see the object on the right does not fit in the screen clip with the sun, and it appears to be ridged like a finger print. I think its a thumb, but I'm sure I will be called a shill Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65835896 Use discernment. The clip is not really a good copy and has been edited. It would be fun to consider a second sun, but I think we would see it. You can see it you idiots. Get a welders mask or goggles and start looking at the sun. Its right beside it now what ever it is or should I say what ever they are. They are inbound. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
SN7 User ID: 51691602 United States 05/14/2016 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. Now8News is a fake news site... "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
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way2wyrd (OP) User ID: 71577206 United States 05/14/2016 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. In case anyone missed it. Especially Arsetroll and his Quislings. So most of you will know i emailed Paul Cox and asked about his comments regarding The second sun. Some said he wouldn't reply. Here is his very strange reply. Dear XXXXX I've been told that I shouldn't make any comment on what I said. The broadcast was about the Transit of Mercury - Mercury being the messenger to the gods. In my previous career as a specialist architect, I designed CoG (Continuity of Government) and other "underground facilities". The plans that governments and large organisations have, and are making, to mitigate some "events" are to a scale and extent the general population is in ignorance about - and would hardly believe even if they saw it in black and white. It's not a conspiracy, it's just a lot of silence and obscuration. Paul IF THAT ISN'T RIGHT IN YOUR FACE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404134 United States 05/14/2016 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. I can start a website and say I am an astronomer but unless I have a degree/doctorate, then I am just a fan of the night sky and the things therein. I just want to see that this Paul Cox guy has a degree or legitimate schooling in Astronomy. Being a fan of it doesnt make one an astronomer. |
SN7 User ID: 51691602 United States 05/14/2016 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. In case anyone missed it. Quoting: way2wyrd Especially Arsetroll and his Quislings. So most of you will know i emailed Paul Cox and asked about his comments regarding The second sun. Some said he wouldn't reply. Here is his very strange reply. Dear XXXXX I've been told that I shouldn't make any comment on what I said. The broadcast was about the Transit of Mercury - Mercury being the messenger to the gods. In my previous career as a specialist architect, I designed CoG (Continuity of Government) and other "underground facilities". The plans that governments and large organisations have, and are making, to mitigate some "events" are to a scale and extent the general population is in ignorance about - and would hardly believe even if they saw it in black and white. It's not a conspiracy, it's just a lot of silence and obscuration. Paul IF THAT ISN'T RIGHT IN YOUR FACE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. He's still fucking with you & you still don't realize it... "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
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74444 User ID: 74444 United States 05/14/2016 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. IDW, I love you. How big, precisely, was this "radical" change? And how do you explain permanently mounted telescopes still aligning with and tracking the heavens as predicted, including telescopes about a century or more old? How did they *magically* adapt to such a wobble, if it is so "radical?" You should read the article before responding. Just some advice. NO sir, he is NOT right, and you ARE NOT and cannot possibly be a competent astronomer if you don't realize how a 180 degree phase change in the chandler wobble would effect tracking objects in space with a telescope. It is also notable and worth mentioning to add that this is the same year the native peoples of the arctic region noticed that the Sun wasn't rising in the same place and time as in previous years. Many of the same people who construct straw men and knock them down with ridiculous stories like this one on this thread were the same ones "debunking" these elders, men noted primarilly for their honest integrity above all else. To put it bluntly, they don't know how to lie, and wouldn't if they did. DO you, "mr"Astro? Sigh. Another for the List. IDW/A.A "knows""how a 180 degree phase change in the chandler wobble would effect tracking objects in space with a telescope." Oh, IDW/A.A? How big an effect would *that* be? Be precise. Last Edited by 74444 on 05/14/2016 01:23 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38284345 United Kingdom 05/14/2016 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. I trust the Astronomer. I cannot accuse him of lying. The 2nd Sun is real of course. It is very exciting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70485139 if the second sun was real, mercury wouldn't have transited the sun. in fact mercury probably would exist anymore, and the most of the solar system would be in utter chaos |
74444 User ID: 74444 United States 05/14/2016 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. If a change in the Earth's rotational axis is large enough to cause such a discrepancy as the Sun rising on a different day and place in the Arctic, it is most certainly enough to cause automated tracking of earth bound telescopes to be noticeably effected. I'm not an astronomer and I don't have to be to understand why. Quoting: IDW 72208136 It would require at the very least software updates. So I ask you, again, how are century old mechanical telescopes still tracking? Did they secretly change gears and sprockets? Why is the North Star still the North Star? The evidence belies your claim. Will you admit you were mistaken? |
SN7 User ID: 51691602 United States 05/14/2016 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. I trust the Astronomer. I cannot accuse him of lying. The 2nd Sun is real of course. It is very exciting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70485139 Yep, its so real it magically moves around the sky... "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70485139 Norway 05/14/2016 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Astronomer finally admits to a second sun in our system.Says NASA have been covering it up ?UPDATED. With response from Paul Cox. I trust the Astronomer. I cannot accuse him of lying. The 2nd Sun is real of course. It is very exciting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70485139 if the second sun was real, mercury wouldn't have transited the sun. in fact mercury probably would exist anymore, and the most of the solar system would be in utter chaos What about the reputation of a scientist, if it turns out he is lying about his observations then. Btw. The 2nd Sun may be far in front of our Sun of course. If the size is half of that of our Sun, it will be half the way between us and our Sun, based on the apparent size about as big as the Sun. So may be far away from Mercury of course. |