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Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European officials have argued the imperative of the EU’s refugee deal with Turkey to a skeptical public for weeks, insisting there was simply no viable alternative to the controversial pact. “Those who criticize the agreement have never presented an alternative we could work with,” Commission Vice President Frans Timmermans recently told the European Parliament. As Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has hinted in recent days he may just let the whole arrangement collapse, a step that could again send refugees streaming across the Aegean, Europe has quietly begun preparing a Plan B. The EU’s contingency plan, described by senior diplomats, envisions turning Greece into what European leaders from Angela Merkel on down have vowed to avoid: a giant refugee camp. Indeed, the whole rationale for the Turkey pact was to keep refugees from being stranded in Greece, which has neither the wherewithal nor the capacity to deal with an influx that could quickly reach the hundreds of thousands. But with most of the rest of Europe refusing to accept more than a token number of migrants, there may not be another option. Under the blueprint, first reported Monday by Germany’s Bild, Greek islands would serve not just as reception centers for the refugees, but as semi-permanent refugee camps, much like those that have been built near the Syrian border in Jordan and Lebanon. [link to www.politico.eu] Last Edited by Digital mix guy Spock on 05/11/2016 11:16 AM Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: article, 2016: Europe is DOOMED!!! now the EU wants to PENALIZE countries who don't accept refugees!! by charging THOUSANDS in fines!! Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At its core, the agreement aims to address the overwhelming flow of smuggled migrants and asylum seekers traveling across the Aegean from Turkey to the Greek islands by allowing Greece to return to Turkey “all new irregular migrants” arriving after March 20. In exchange, EU Member States will increase resettlement of Syrian refugees residing in Turkey, accelerate visa liberalization for Turkish nationals, and boost existing financial support for Turkey’s refugee population. For leaders the objective was clear: to find a way to prevent unchecked arrivals into the European Union. The fact that a group of 28 states with increasingly divergent interests was able to find consensus speaks to the level of concern that leaders have for their own domestic political futures in a context of rising populism. However, the deal has also unveiled a paradox for a European Union that has spent several decades preaching its own high asylum standards to neighboring countries. To achieve its self-imposed goal—a significant reduction in arrivals and an increase in returns to Turkey—policymakers will have to drastically cut legal corners, potentially violating EU law on issues such as detention and the right to appeal. But if governments execute the agreement in conformity with international and European legal frameworks, few arrivals are likely to be returned, and the agreement risks becoming the latest in a long series of undelivered promises to exasperated publics for whom the complex legal conundrums of implementation are both meaningless and irrelevant. While the former route is deeply tempting for policymakers, undermining Europe’s human-rights commitments in such a visible way may prove even more costly in the long-term than the current chaos in Greece. Leaders are clearly aware of the risk. In the days leading up to the final agreement, the European Union back-pedaled significantly from rhetoric about creating “a large-scale mechanism to ship back irregular migrants” to an assessment process respecting the asylum rights of each individual reaching Greece. A strong backlash from refugee and other human-rights organizations confirmed this, including the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) which highlighted long-standing international prohibitions on collective expulsion, or “blanket returns.” But the speed and unchartered nature of the implementation may mean rules are set aside in favor of expediency. [link to www.migrationpolicy.org] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plan B for refugees: EU seeking alternative to deal with Turkey, report says Does the EU no longer trust Turkey with the refugee crisis? Germany’s "Bild" newspaper reports that other plans are secretly in the making; a claim that the German government denies. On Monday, the German mass circulation "Bild" newspaper reported that several Greek islands in the Aegean are being turned into central registration sites for stranded refugees, and that ships will no longer take refugees to the Greek mainland in order to stop the uncontrolled flow of migrants into the EU. In other words, asylum seekers will be kept on the islands; those refused asylum would then be deported directly to their home countries. The billions of euros in aid promised to Turkey as the EU's partner in the refugee crisis would then be transferred to Athens instead. The paper reported that several EU states are considering this alternative plan in the event that the EU's refugee deal with Ankara collapses. The story included statements from unnamed high-ranking politicians. "Bild" is known for having excellent contacts within the German government. [link to www.dw.com] Last Edited by Digital mix guy Spock on 05/11/2016 11:19 AM Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BBC!!! Have Turkey and the EU struck a dirty deal? Gavin Hewitt Chief correspondent 10 May 2016 The deal was negotiated by the Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, but he is now stepping down after friction with Mr Erdogan over the president's plan to introduce an autocratic form of presidential government to the country. That has further unnerved critics of the deal. Mr Davutoglu had personally negotiated the agreement with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. She had said it would strengthen the pro-European faction in Ankara. But it has not turned out that way. President Erdogan was incensed by the decision to allow supporters of the Kurdistan Workers Party (the outlawed PKK) to set up a protest site outside the European Parliament. But critics of the deal accuse Mrs Merkel, the European Commission and Europe's leaders of appeasement. [link to www.bbc.com] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Frontex, the European border-management agency, the 26,460 refugees detected crossing the EU’s external borders in the eastern Mediterranean in March amounted to less than half the figure recorded in February. The president of the European Council, Donald Tusk, has already declared that the deal, whereby the EU pays Turkey billions of euro to shut down the Turkey-Greece migratory route, is “producing results”. Many EU governments are breathing a sigh of relief. The flows of refugees on this route may well have been stemmed. advertisement But at what price? Turkey and the EU are now working together closely to execute the agreement, yet relations between them are increasingly strained. And the deal’s legitimacy and legality has rightly faced a wave of skepticism from NGOs, charities, and human-rights lawyers. As the agreement is implemented, a number of flashpoints are already foreseeable. A key element of the deal is that EU leaders agreed to allow visa-free travel for 75m Turkish citizens by the end of June. Originally, Turkey was obliged to meet 72 benchmarks by then, with some EU diplomats claiming that only half have been met. [link to www.irishexaminer.com] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
F-BVFA User ID: 48442288 France 05/11/2016 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faildogan will cash Brussels 3 Bn Euros and then he will not do anything about fakeugees. EU tax payers money falling in the hands of dictators. I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
F-BVFA User ID: 48442288 France 05/11/2016 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Double post - posted twice. Mods please delete. Thanks. Last Edited by Concorde Warrior F-BVFA on 05/11/2016 11:56 AM I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72193213 Russia 05/11/2016 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should christian europeans be footing the bill for arab muslims anyway? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49240225 They should take care of their own, maybe we could take the christians only. Because of the influence of communism/political correctness/cultural marxsim, since WWII, white people (especially white males) have been indoctrinated into believing that they are responsible for all the ills in the world. This, having to fix everything by "loving everyone", is the result. - |
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Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey refused again on Wednesday to make changes to its anti-terrorism laws demanded by Brussels in a hardening of its stance that could jeopardize a major deal with the bloc covering migrants, free travel and militants. EU officials and rights groups have accused Turkey of using broad anti-terrorism legislation to stifle dissent. Ankara says it needs the laws to battle Kurdish militants at home and threats from Islamic State in neighboring Iraq and Syria. Brussels wants Ankara to narrow its legal definition of terrorism and change some other laws to meet EU standards - as part of the wide-ranging deal to secure Turkish help in reducing the flow of migrants into Europe. But Ankara's minister for EU affairs, Volkan Bozkir, told broadcaster NTV Turkish legislation already met EU standards. "It is not possible for us to accept any changes to the counter-terrorism law," Bozkir said, echoing earlier comments by President Tayyip Erdogan who last week told the European Union: "We're going our way, you go yours." Bozkir's assertion that there had never been a deal over the laws will upset EU officials already worried by the departure of Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the main Turkish broker of the deal under which Turkey takes back migrants reaching Europe from its shores in return for concessions including the scrapping of visas for Turks visiting the EU. [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 72192652 United States 05/11/2016 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This change in an anti-terror law is completely impossible," Turkey's European Affairs Minister, Volkan Bozkir, said Wednesday. The EU says Turkey must narrow its definition of "terrorist" and "terrorist act" to secure a visa waiver. The bloc is concerned that journalists and political dissenters could be targeted. Bozkir's remarks came after talks with European Parliament President Martin Schulz. Schulz said the scope of Turkey's anti-terror laws "is so far reaching that we think that some of the measures are touching not directly the fight against terrorism but, for example, the freedom of expression and of media." [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72167092 United States 05/11/2016 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European officials have argued the imperative of the EU’s refugee deal with Turkey to a skeptical public for weeks, insisting there was simply no viable alternative to the controversial pact. Quoting: Digital mix guy “Those who criticize the agreement have never presented an alternative we could work with,” Commission Vice President Frans Timmermans recently told the European Parliament. As Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has hinted in recent days he may just let the whole arrangement collapse, a step that could again send refugees streaming across the Aegean, Europe has quietly begun preparing a Plan B. The EU’s contingency plan, described by senior diplomats, envisions turning Greece into what European leaders from Angela Merkel on down have vowed to avoid: a giant refugee camp. Indeed, the whole rationale for the Turkey pact was to keep refugees from being stranded in Greece, which has neither the wherewithal nor the capacity to deal with an influx that could quickly reach the hundreds of thousands. But with most of the rest of Europe refusing to accept more than a token number of migrants, there may not be another option. Under the blueprint, first reported Monday by Germany’s Bild, Greek islands would serve not just as reception centers for the refugees, but as semi-permanent refugee camps, much like those that have been built near the Syrian border in Jordan and Lebanon. [link to www.politico.eu] That is what it is all about, handing the Greek islands, over to Turkey. |
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Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 70301973 United States 05/18/2016 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terrorists are more likely to attack European countries as a result of a controversial deal to allow Turkish citizens to travel across the continent without visas, EU leaders have admitted. Foreign terrorists and organised criminals are “expected” to seek Turkish passports to reach continental Europe “as soon as” the visa waiver program comes into force, a European Commission report said. The disclosure came as Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6, warned that the decision to give Turkey visa-free travel is “perverse” and compared it to “storing gasoline next to the fire”. Sir Richard also said that the EU will face a "populist uprising" if it fails to control migration. Turkey’s 75 million citizens will have the right to enter the Schengen zone for up to 90 days at a time with biometric passports from the end of June if Ankara passes key anti-corruption and terrorism reforms. The decision was part of a hastily-assembled deal brokered by Brussels to halt the flow of migrants from Turkey to Greece. However, the European Commission report acknowledges the “increased mobility into the Schengen area of criminals and terrorists who are citizens of Turkey, or who are foreigners based in Turkey.” [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 14591485 United States 05/26/2016 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But a major sticking point is Turkey’s refusal to reform its notorious anti-terror laws, which can currently be used against journalists, teachers, and academics for voicing criticisms of Erdogan’s regime. The failure to come to an agreement means the deal will be delayed by several months. Turkey has yet to meet five of the 72 requirements for visa liberalisation, according to the European Commission. And the European Parliament, which must approve the proposal, has refused to start work on it until all the criteria have been met. [link to www.express.co.uk] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 14591485 United States 05/26/2016 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Furious LBC listeners outrage at claims Turkey is only sending illiterate refugees to EU BRITONS have reacted with anger and outrage following reports Turkey is selecting skilled refugees to keep in the country while sending the unskilled and illiterate on to Europe. By CYRUS ENGINEER PUBLISHED: 08:45, Tue, May 24, 2016 [link to www.express.co.uk] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
Digital mix guy (OP) User ID: 14591485 United States 05/26/2016 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Europe’s migrant deal with Turkey may be unraveling. But it was flawed from the start May 25 at 5:53 PM Erdogan warned European leaders that he would block the deal if the European Union refused to lift visa restrictions for Turks — one of the pact’s key provisions. He said that Turkey would not take any more steps to implement the agreement. Under the deal, Turkey also agreed to accept the return of asylum seekers whose applications are rejected in Greece and to crack down on the smuggling networks that facilitated much of the migration. But even as Turkish and European leaders publicly spar over the details, critics have warned that the deal — hastily negotiated in the midst of the refugee crisis last year — has been flawed from the start. The agreement is based on the premise that Turkey, which hosts more than 2 million Syrian refugees, is safe for asylum seekers and that returning migrants to Turkish territory does not violate European or international law. But some of the first deportations under the deal have already exposed abuses by Turkey’s government, and Turkish authorities have forcibly returned refugees fleeing war in Afghanistan and Syria, rights groups and E.U. lawmakers say. Last week, a Greek tribunal ruled that a Syrian national who had appealed his deportation from Europe could stay on the island of Lesbos. The court said there is no guarantee refugees will be provided full protection in Turkey. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72267135 Sweden 05/26/2016 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By design. They always wanted a mix between Masonry and Islam. Europe has been a mix between Christianity and Masonry since the French revolution. They are just getting rid of Christianity all together now. They tried to do it already in the French revolution but they had to divert the plan (they even killed the Pope etc). But they brought Christianity back when the Jesuits ha secured the Papacy. Then the France became "Christian" again. However this was only planned to be for a short while. They always wanted Christianity gone for good. The Masons that it. Read up on the French revolution. You will see that they tried to get rid of Christianity. They were unsuccessful however. At that time, that is. They are well on their way to succeed this time. Europe is heading for a new Dark Ages. |