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Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?

 
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Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Which word of God? The Vedas? Bhagavad Gita? Torah? Koran? I Ching? The Bible?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You'd think wouldn't you?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Which word of God? The Vedas? Bhagavad Gita? Torah? Koran? I Ching? The Bible?
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Any of them. Take your picture.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Which word of God? The Vedas? Bhagavad Gita? Torah? Koran? I Ching? The Bible?
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Any of them. Take your picture.
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Pick.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You\'d think wouldn\'t you?
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General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You'd think wouldn't you?
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Any literate person can interpret it to make it mean what the hell they like.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You\'d think wouldn\'t you?
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General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
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And what does the bible actually say?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You'd think wouldn't you?
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Any literate person can interpret it to make it mean what the hell they like.
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That's right. I could justify mass murder with the bible if I so chose.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
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I know because he talks to me...sometimes he touches me too
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You\\\'d think wouldn\\\'t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
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And what does the bible actually say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


Well, read it yourself. The preachers, rabbis, priests contradicting various verses all the time.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
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I know because he talks to me...sometimes he touches me too
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No. That is a demon talking to you and touching you.
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You\\\'d think wouldn\\\'t you?
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General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63170993


And what does the bible actually say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


Well, read it yourself. The preachers, rabbis, priests contradicting various verses all the time.
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I have read it. I'm asking YOU what it says.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You\'d think wouldn\'t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


Any literate person can interpret it to make it mean what the hell they like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43212854


That\'s right. I could justify mass murder with the bible if I so chose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


Depends if you follow the HaSHATAN.
[link to biblehub.com]
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General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
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And what does the bible actually say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


Well, read it yourself. The preachers, rabbis, priests contradicting various verses all the time.
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I have read it. I\'m asking YOU what it says.
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Regarding what topic?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


I know because he talks to me...sometimes he touches me too
 Quoting: BRIEF


No. That is a demon talking to you and touching you.
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But he tells me good things...demons don't encourage to counsel and befriend the sick or mentally ill or to give money to the needy.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Bible is just a book after all, any literate person can understand.
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You\'d think wouldn\'t you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


General ignorance of what the Bible says actually is the cause propaganda rules.
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And what does the bible actually say?
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To fear the Lord.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
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"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come." (John 16:13)

"As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him." (1 John 2:27)

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit." (1 Corinthians 2:14)




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There are a lot of denominations. Mostly because people thought they should correct the Word of God rather than have the Word of God correct them.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Considering the multitude of biblical denominations that sounds rather like the height of arrogance to me. In my experience the most arrogant and haughty types are those who think they've got it all Sussed which is a paradox because to think like that is arrogance and arrogance is of Satan no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


I know because he talks to me...sometimes he touches me too
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No. That is a demon talking to you and touching you.
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But he tells me good things...demons don't encourage to counsel and befriend the sick or mentally ill or to give money to the needy.
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Yes they do. They tell you to do that to make you feel good about yourself. The demon has selfish motives.
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And what does the bible actually say?
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Well, read it yourself. The preachers, rabbis, priests contradicting various verses all the time.
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I have read it. I\'m asking YOU what it says.
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Regarding what topic?
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The overall theme.
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I know because he talks to me...sometimes he touches me too
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No. That is a demon talking to you and touching you.
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But he tells me good things...demons don't encourage to counsel and befriend the sick or mentally ill or to give money to the needy.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yes they do. They tell you to do that to make you feel good about yourself. The demon has selfish motives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71052858


LOL, ok well I don't always want to do it...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
First, the word of god is not the bible...first chapter of john clearly states Jesus is the word. Also, the greek word Logos refers to God's self expression, or revelation. So the bible isn't the word of God, however it is the cradle of the Word, It points to the Word and helps us discern how the Word interacts in the world.
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Well, read it yourself. The preachers, rabbis, priests contradicting various verses all the time.
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I have read it. I\\\'m asking YOU what it says.
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Regarding what topic?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63170993


The overall theme.
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12And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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No. That is a demon talking to you and touching you.
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But he tells me good things...demons don't encourage to counsel and befriend the sick or mentally ill or to give money to the needy.
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Yes they do. They tell you to do that to make you feel good about yourself. The demon has selfish motives.
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LOL, ok well I don't always want to do it...
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Of course not. Because you are evil at heart. The demon tried to make you think otherwise by encouraging you to give to the needy.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
First, the word of god is not the bible...first chapter of john clearly states Jesus is the word. Also, the greek word Logos refers to God's self expression, or revelation. So the bible isn't the word of God, however it is the cradle of the Word, It points to the Word and helps us discern how the Word interacts in the world.
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So Jesus is the word? Which word in the bible was he?
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Hi OP. Why do you presume you should be cruel to anyone on this forum?

Does your conscience say you have that right?

Creator, God does not use double standards. That would be cruel.

I would not be cruel to direct you to the words of Christ Jesus.
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But he tells me good things...demons don't encourage to counsel and befriend the sick or mentally ill or to give money to the needy.
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Yes they do. They tell you to do that to make you feel good about yourself. The demon has selfish motives.
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LOL, ok well I don't always want to do it...
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Of course not. Because you are evil at heart. The demon tried to make you think otherwise by encouraging you to give to the needy.
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We're all evil and cruel at heart. We do good when we can resist that demon and control the evil and cruelty we have inside.

That demon says "Be good." to distract us from doing good. Settling for "being good" is evil.
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Just asking the question itself demonstrates something incredible - that a divinely created human could be completely FOOLED into giving away all of his power and soul's sovereignty to a deceptive belief system that somehow made him believe that he's born a flawed sinner, can only find salvation OUTSIDE OF HIM and needs to be good to get to heaven.

Perhaps these wise thinkers are trying to wake you up to question things you believe not because they are true..but because you never had the courage to verify the truth and/or needed to fit in so you just went along...It's one of the two.

"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world."
- Voltaire

“If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a Christian."
- Mark Twain

"I shall tell you a great secret, my friend. Do not wait for the last judgment, it takes place every day."
- Albert Camus

"When people expect God to plan their lives for them, and protect them, they tend to lose their motivation to guide and control their own lives."
- Charles W. Faulkner

"I know of no book which has been a source of brutality and sadistic conduct, both public and private, that can compare with the Bible."
- Sir James Paget

"There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as the Dark Ages.”
- Ruth Hurmence Green

"There was a time when I believed in the story and the scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it, just as I believed there was a Devil...
Suddenly the light broke through to me and I knew this God was a lie... For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty. Why do people go on pretending about this Christianity?"
- H. G. Wells

"Where knowledge ends, religion begins."
- Benjamin Disraeli

"The God of the Bible is a moral monstrosity."
- Henry Ward Beecher

"The careful student of history will discover that Christianity has been of very little value in advancing civilization, but has done a great deal toward retarding it."
- Matilda Joslyn Gage

"I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, and the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough - I call it the one immortal blemish on the human race."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We have become so accustomed to the religious lie that surrounds us that we do not notice the atrocity, stupidity and cruelty with which the teaching of the Christian church is permeated."
- Leo Tolstoy

"Good people can do good and bad people can do evil. But for good people to do evil -- that takes religion."
- Steven Weinberg

"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth."
- Henry Mencken

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
- Albert Einstein

"Turn over the pages of history and read the damning record of the church's opposition to every advance in every field of science. . . ."
- Upton Sinclair

"Catholicism is contrary to human liberty. Catholicism bases salvation upon belief. Catholicism teaches man to trample his reason under foot. And for that reason it is wrong."
- Robert Ingersoll
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Re: Why do you presume to think you understand 'the word of God''?
Just asking the question itself demonstrates something incredible - that a divinely created human could be completely FOOLED into giving away all of his power and soul's sovereignty to a deceptive belief system that somehow made him believe that he's born a flawed sinner, can only find salvation OUTSIDE OF HIM and needs to be good to get to heaven.

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I advise caution my brother in cruelty. You would attempt to prove that you were not born cruel and evil, by using cruel and evil methods. We are all born flawed.





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