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is it a coincidence that santa also spells satan?

 
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i think that you're not older than 9 if you realy believe this.

santa was created by cocacola.

but in christian history there was a SAINT NIKLAUS. and this got mixed up with the cocacola thing. first get an education then you come back here and we will talk again :-)
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you can read right?

the same applies to you gooderboy, i won't repeat myself...(hate that...)
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Santa exists.

But Satan does not.

i think that you're not older than 9 if you realy believe this.

santa was created by cocacola.

but in christian history there was a SAINT NIKLAUS. and this got mixed up with the cocacola thing. first get an education then you come back here and we will talk again :-)
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... no and no, Santa wasn't created by cocacola... exploited maybe... created, not, lol. Rather Santa was popularized in America by a certain Thomas Nast... check it out.

...oh, and please to 'believe' too... remember?

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Santa exists.

But Satan does not.

i think that you're not older than 9 if you realy believe this.

santa was created by cocacola.

but in christian history there was a SAINT NIKLAUS. and this got mixed up with the cocacola thing. first get an education then you come back here and we will talk again :-)
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Well fucking DUUUUHHHHHH !

No shit Sherlock.

Thanks for the schoolin'
Hope you can stick around for the lesson in sarcasm.


I'll spellit out for ya since you're obviously not the shiniest coin in the fountain.

THEY ARE BOTH FABRICATIONS.

Ya happy now you humorless dolt ?
" I'll cut you like a box,along the flaps."

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... yikes!, lol... you really never got what you wanted most from Santa then, and did ya?

... what about them co-incidences known as darkness and light, up and down, and in and out.... what of them then?

no your quite right, i didn't get what i wanted from santa, in fact i got nothing at all. I guess what I really wanted from santa was truth, but all i got were lies.

how is darkness and light a coincidence? what do you mean? and how does this related to the original question?


... ouch, and sorry to hear that you think and feel that a'way.
But, but, and but... if'n all you got was 'lies' then how would you ever know that you are speaking the truth now?

... and, and, and... darkness and/or light, Santa and/or Satan... flip sides of the same coin.

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i said all i got was lies from santa, not life in general.
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I think someone answered the question... it was coca cola! santa was probably a word developed by the illuminati and not christians.
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"i said all i got was lies from santa, not life in general."

... sorry, then, and cuz I just don't believe ya... Santa doesn't lie.

Well, but then neither does Satan... go figure huh?
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Here comes SATAN CLAWS!
Here comes SATAN CLAWS!
Right down SATAN CLAWS LANE!

Oh yeah...pure evil and used to change the mindset from one of gratitude for Christ to Worship of Materialism.
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"I think someone answered the question... it was coca cola!"


And again, no... it wasn't. Thomas Nast popularized Santa in the States... and check it out.
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Here comes SATAN CLAWS!
Here comes SATAN CLAWS!
Right down SATAN CLAWS LANE!

Oh yeah...pure evil and used to change the mindset from one of gratitude for Christ to Worship of Materialism.
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... and said just like a true blue 'grup' too. But, and then too, they also say that the proof be in the puddin'... and so I ask you then, please to go out and ask any little kid anywheres if what you say there is true?
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Is it a coincidence that it's a coincidence? Huh huh?

Geeze, get a life. rolleyes

Merry Christmas.
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Is it a coincidence that it's a coincidence? Huh huh?

Geeze, get a life. rolleyes

Merry Christmas.
 Quoting: Diogenes
Santa is an Anagram of Satan,as for St Nicholas I'll just say Old Nick and we all know he is.Coincidence I think not.
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no more so than the coincidence that military intelligence is a contradiction of fact
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I doubt Satan gives a damn whether little children get presents or not. They're two different people.
 Quoting: Horror x Doll



First Santa Spells Santa.
Second Satan Spells Satan.

Finally for Horror X Doll, They are not two different people. Santa does not exist, Satan is real. Neither are people! Just an FYI
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WARNING!

The true origin of X-mas and what it really stands for:

[link to www.remnantofgod.org]
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The true story of Santa Claus begins with St. Niclolas, who was born in the third century in Patara, a village in what is now Turkey. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra. He became known throughout the land for his generosity to those in need, his love of children, and his concern for sailors and ships.

Through the centuries many stories and legends have been told of St. Nicholas' life and deeds. Widely celebrated in Europe, St. Nicholas' feast day, December 6th, kept alive the stories of his goodness and generosity. He is known to have performed miracles.
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God also spells dog. Maybe I should be taking my pooch for longer walks.. Eh?
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Libral Democrat = A Cerebral Dim Lot. OOoooo. Now what? Oh my, OH MY! I KNOW this means something!!!! OOOooo
Is truth found here?
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At least they got the right color counterfeiting thing going on there.

WARNING:Not for the heart of a child.
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CAUTION! THIS IS A FULL ORDER OF MAGNITUDE MORE TWISTED THAN THE VIDEO ABOVE!


Rarrgh!
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Ho Ho Ho ... alien11


The story is, of course, copyright to Mr. Neil Gaiman. This remix/mashup includes audio of radio emitted by the planet Saturn that Nasa recorded and a mysterious series of repeating numbers recorded for decades by shortwave enthusiasts.
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No
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CAUTION! THIS IS A FULL ORDER OF MAGNITUDE MORE TWISTED THAN THE VIDEO ABOVE!


 Quoting: Thanatos


I applaud your Christmas Spirit.

Carry on.
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of course, santa is a anagram of satan, where does santa come from? the north pole, the opening to the underworld, the whole satan claws myth was one of the first global rituals the illuminati brought into our lives, do you want to know more?
You can destroy our planet, but the souls are going to keep on going, they'll keep on getting new bodies and going on to other planets. So in the end, it doesn't really matter
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You know with all these christians talking about where christmas really came from I wonder if they know where satan came from. Oh yes and where the word "villain" came from. You fundamentalist freaks should do some more research about your so called "christian church" and find out all the atraucities commited in the name of Jesus.
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The only similarity is that neither exist.
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THE HISTORY OF SANTA
This article is not just about Santa and his historical background, it’s about a personal journey for truth. I left the Catholic church after reading the Bible, and discovering that everything I practiced within her walls had no biblical foundation. wanting to know where Rome’s doctrine and traditions came from, I began searching through the pages of history. My intent was not to destroy others religion, but to serve the Lord Jesus in spirit and in truth. As a Catholic, I was taught to blindly obey without a question. As a Christian, I examine everything in light of Scripture. Christmas was a feast day that I celebrated as a Catholic. Now as a Christian, I had to ask myself, “Why am I worshipping God in the same manner that I worshipped him as a Catholic”?

Being a mother of three, I can honestly say I remember looking into their little faces as they eagerly anticipated the coming of Santa Claus and his reindeers to our house to deliver his many toys. Urging them to behave, lest Santa would forget to leave them something, I filled their hearts with fables of the old man who lived at the North Pole. But now as a Christian, I had to wonder why was I lying to my children? I had read the Scriptures that said:

“O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?" (Jer. 16:19-20)

I did not want to hand down lies to my children. and I also had read Job 4:17-21; 5:1; 15:15 which tells us we should not put our trust in saints. So I knew that saint worship was forbidden in the word of God. where did all of this come from? I had to know!

In my search for Santa Claus, I found myself in Rome (before the birth of Christ), for the feast of Saturnalia. It’s the winter solstice and from Dec.17-24, the pagans are eagerly awaiting Saturn (the Unconquered Sun) to bring them gifts and a sprig of evergreen for prosperity. David Talbott recognizes the similarities in his book Saturn Myth, page 42:

“In ancient ritual, Saturn appears as the stationary sun or central fire at the North Celestial Pole. When Saturn ruled the world, his home was the summit of the world axis. Manly P. Hall observes, ‘Saturn, the old man who lives at the North Pole and brings with him a sprig of evergreen (the Christmas tree), is familiar to the little folks under the name Santa Claus.’ All the ancient world looked upon the Polar center as the ‘middle place, resting place, or steadfast region’ occupied by the universal monarch.”

Well, maybe it’s just a coincidence that Saturn lived at the North Pole and brought gifts...but wait...who is this jolly old fat man with the wreath around his head and red cheeks and a red nose? Oh, it’s Silenus, the tutor of Bacchus (the child god of wine). Why is Silenus’ nose and cheeks so red? He’s been enjoying the fruits of Bacchus. But don’t worry, he’s a jolly drunkard, never loses his temper and brings laughter where ever he goes. Why does his appearance resemble that of father Christmas (i.e. Santa Claus)? Is it just another coincidence? Now here comes a big man with a long white beard from the North, and he’s packed with presents. He also bears a strong resemblance to Santa. But alas, he is not! It has turned out to be the god Odin of the Norseman. But why do all these pagan gods look so much like Santa? I thought the legend of Santa was based on a Catholic bishop named St. Nickolaus, you know, good ol’ St. Nick!

It seems that since pagan times it had been traditional to give presents during the winter solstice:

“The Romans gave presents during Saturnalia festival, and the men of the North worshipped the god Odin, who rode across the frozen wastes to bring his peoples presents in the middle of winter. Long before Christianity, people expected presents. Obviously the church could not let people carry on believing that Odin would bring them, so St. Nickolas was brought in to solve the problem in order that pagan custom might continue under thoroughly respectable patronage of a saint, whose name was now simplified to ‘Santa Claus’ ”.

Historian Will Durant also acknowledges the connection between paganism and Christianity:

“Paganism survived...in the form of ancient rites and customs condoned, or accepted and transformed by an often indulgent church. And intimate and trustful worship of saints replaced the cult of pagan gods. Statues of Isis and Horus were renamed Mary and Jesus; The Roman Lupercalia and the feast of Purification of Isis became the feast of Nativity; The Saturnalia was replaced by Christmas celebration.” (Whatever Happened to Heaven, Hunt, 113)

It seems that no matter which direction you turn in Catholicism, you find her roots are pagan! So, I have to ask, why are Christians celebrating feast days taken from Catholicism, taken from paganism? Did not our Lord tell us, “Neither give heed to fables”? There is no doubt, that Santa Claus is a fable! As a Christian, I could no longer acknowledge a false god who mocks our Lord in several aspects. Santa claims to live forever, judge good and evil, reward good and evil, omni-present, lives in the hearts of men,a carpenter, and possesses many titles of blasphemy. It says in Isaiah 46:5:

“To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal and compare me, that we may be like?”

It is time for Christians to depart from this god of the nations and serve Jesus in spirit and truth.

In the following pages, you can see the many faces of Santa Claus, St. Nick, Father Christmas, Saturn, Odin, Silenus, Bacchus, Sint (Sinter) Niklass, Christkinkl (Kris Kringle = "Christ-child") and Father Frost. Take your pick of the gods of the nations and see if you can tell the difference or name the god. But no matter what the name, the spirit is still the same. It is the spirit of idolatry!

By Rebecca A. Sexton
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You know with all these christians talking about where christmas really came from I wonder if they know where satan came from. Oh yes and where the word "villain" came from. You fundamentalist freaks should do some more research about your so called "christian church" and find out all the atraucities commited in the name of Jesus.
 Quoting: SpectrumBlue


"Villain," 1303, "base or low-born rustic," from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus "farmhand," from L. villa "country house" (see villa).

"The most important phases of the sense development of this word may be summed up as follows: 'inhabitant of a farm; peasant; churl, boor; clown; miser; knave, scoundrel.' Today both Fr. vilain and Eng. villain are used only in a pejorative sense." [Klein]

Back in the day, the poor people of Europe were considered quite evil and base by the upper class. They were repressed, kept ignorant of the Bible, and masses of them were used as tools of conquest in the Crusades. Meanwhile, you have the Inquisitions, the witch hunts, the Indulgences etc. Really, it was hardly what you would call Christian behavior from the elites. Google any of those terms if you find my word unconvincing.

Blue, I'm not sure what you meant about the etymology of Satan, but I will keep digging. It seems to be Hebrew originally, and related to Shaitan, the Muslim equivalent of Satan.
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the illuminati love symbolism, dates, name derivatives, and double meanings that cryptically tell the truth while hiding it from the general population. With the advances of media technology, and the ability to transmit subliminal and overt messages, the temptation to globalize their rituals and ceremonies has grown exponentially. The first attempt by the illuminati in the 20th century was the creation of a Santa Claus in a red suit. Previously, this figure was known as St. Nicholas and Father Christmas. Now, Santa is the enthrallment of children. The word "Santa" is a anagram for "Satan".

Satanism and satanic rituals have grown exponentially since the media blitz of the Red Santa. This subliminal method instills in the mind pattern that a mystical, non-human can enter people's homes. He will be good to them only if they behave a certain way during the year(what a mind fuck for kids, stop brainwashing them u stupid parents). The red costume speaks for itself, red is the entry code for entry into the astral planes.

Of course, Santa lives at the North Pole, which is a entry point into the inner Earth, and the underground society. He has short little elves that do his work, symbolic of the small greys with a group mind pattern. The flying reindeer and sled symbolize the interdimensional craft used to enter there. Children are advised to leave Satan a snack for his arrival, repersenting a sacrificial offering to a powerful god. In addition the artificial Christmas holiday is designed to extract any religious intensions as well as enrich an already wealthy global elite.

Owned.

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You know with all these christians talking about where christmas really came from I wonder if they know where satan came from. Oh yes and where the word "villain" came from. You fundamentalist freaks should do some more research about your so called "christian church" and find out all the atraucities commited in the name of Jesus.


"Villain," 1303, "base or low-born rustic," from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus "farmhand," from L. villa "country house" (see villa).

"The most important phases of the sense development of this word may be summed up as follows: 'inhabitant of a farm; peasant; churl, boor; clown; miser; knave, scoundrel.' Today both Fr. vilain and Eng. villain are used only in a pejorative sense." [Klein]

Back in the day, the poor people of Europe were considered quite evil and base by the upper class. They were repressed, kept ignorant of the Bible, and masses of them were used as tools of conquest in the Crusades. Meanwhile, you have the Inquisitions, the witch hunts, the Indulgences etc. Really, it was hardly what you would call Christian behavior from the elites. Google any of those terms if you find my word unconvincing.

Blue, I'm not sure what you meant about the etymology of Satan, but I will keep digging. It seems to be Hebrew originally, and related to Shaitan, the Muslim equivalent of Satan.
 Quoting: Thanatos

Yep! you got villain right!
The visual idea of satan was taken from two greek figures in mythology, one was Pan. A satyr who loved to have fun, dance and play the pan pipe. The little pitch fork that Satan has in his hand is taken from Posaidon's Trident which is a sign of varility(can't spell today o.o) and power.

Also the pentagram, which many think of as being a symbol of evil is really original just a figure which is the sign for equality between man and woman.
And how villain was turned into such a bad word was that the city dwellers who were those orthodox fanatical christians wanted to do some good and go and try to "convert some villagers, (who by the way were already christian but they practiced herbal medicines and were quite healthy which the city people thought was a sign of witch craft) some of the villagers couldn't be converted so of course they were burned for being "witches". The word villain (which like thanatos said really meant villager) was turned into a sort of curse word to the city folk.
And alot of those mythological figures and symbols were either turned into saints or they were put to make up the visual idea of Satan.
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