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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States05/18/2016 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 in the real world it takes time to heat things up and cool them down. Prove the temperatures on the Moon were anywhere near either of those temps when they landed. I'll bet you won't. Looks like it was around freezing when say they landed. Apollo 15 they claim they were walking around in 156 degree heat. Apollo 16 was hotter, was it 192 degree? [link to www.workingonthemoon.com] I can't stand it when it gets so hot. only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit.  They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. i never said they were in low Earth orbit. I said the thermal environment is the same as in low Earth orbit. Same average distance from the Sun. |
| Moraniac Clinging to my guns and Bibles  User ID: 55995036 United States05/18/2016 11:25 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of evidence against conspiracy theorists. Why do they believe in them still? Quoting: Markjohn Of course they did but I'm still wondering when they're going back to get the guy that was filming them take off from the moon to head to Earth, poor dude been up there eating moon dust for years. Meanwhile space x is developing ways to get through the van allen belts lol.  Winter is Coming. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131  United Kingdom05/18/2016 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 Looks like it was around freezing when say they landed. Apollo 15 they claim they were walking around in 156 degree heat. Apollo 16 was hotter, was it 192 degree? [link to www.workingonthemoon.com] I can't stand it when it gets so hot. only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit. They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. i never said they were in low Earth orbit. I said the thermal environment is the same as in low Earth orbit. Same average distance from the Sun. Well it's obviously not the same thermal environment as low Earth orbit, it doesn't spend half its time in shadow every 45 minutes, it spends 100% of its time on a baking hot surface. You know what that thermal environment is like? it's like the Moon dumbass.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70310636 United States05/18/2016 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 in the real world it takes time to heat things up and cool them down. Prove the temperatures on the Moon were anywhere near either of those temps when they landed. I'll bet you won't. Looks like it was around freezing when say they landed. Apollo 15 they claim they were walking around in 156 degree heat. Apollo 16 was hotter, was it 192 degree? [link to www.workingonthemoon.com] I can't stand it when it gets so hot. only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit. They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. There is no air in a vacuum. Therefore there is no ambient temperature. When a scientist talks about the temperature of the Moon, he is talking about the actual temperature of the surface. No air, no convection! Same as low Earth orbit. Please take a few basic science courses. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States05/18/2016 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit. They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. i never said they were in low Earth orbit. I said the thermal environment is the same as in low Earth orbit. Same average distance from the Sun. Well it's obviously not the same thermal environment as low Earth orbit, it doesn't spend half its time in shadow every 45 minutes, Neither do all satellites. If their orbit is inclined enough then they can be in the sun 100%. But we aren't talking about orbits, we are talking about the thermal energy received from the sun. it spends 100% of its time on a baking hot surface. You know what that thermal environment is like? it's like the Moon dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 which still takes time to heat up and cool down |
| Mkguyver User ID: 72139740 United States05/18/2016 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | three things just never worked, many others as well: suit cooling, can't run for hours on batteries. nor operate a heat exchanger in moon vacuum. as designed the rover could not fold as required to stow away for fight. two people could not get dressed for walking on moon in the lander as designed. nor could they exit the lander with suits on, dimensionally impossible. the door opened inward. Last Edited by Mkguyver on 05/18/2016 12:41 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18553871 United States05/18/2016 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of evidence against conspiracy theorists. Why do they believe in them still? Quoting: Markjohn Tell me your evidence, and I will try to disprove it. Of course its real the man that live in the moon was there to film them land! Idiots, meanwhile space x is developing ways to penetrate the van allen belts a half a century after they just harmlessly passed through, fucking idiots! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom05/18/2016 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 Looks like it was around freezing when say they landed. Apollo 15 they claim they were walking around in 156 degree heat. Apollo 16 was hotter, was it 192 degree? [link to www.workingonthemoon.com] I can't stand it when it gets so hot. only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit. They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. There is no air in a vacuum. Therefore there is no ambient temperature. When a scientist talks about the temperature of the Moon, he is talking about the actual temperature of the surface. No air, no convection! Same as low Earth orbit. Please take a few basic science courses. Wow, another dumbass joins the fray, it seems America has a good supply of them. No, it is not like low Earth orbit, they do not spend half their time in the shadow and unlike LEO they are standing on a baking hot surface under a baking hot sun, both of which are radiating heat energy to the imaginary spaceman. The thermometer above the surface heats up like an imaginary spaceman, you do realise they had a number of thermometers at different levels, yes? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom05/18/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. i never said they were in low Earth orbit. I said the thermal environment is the same as in low Earth orbit. Same average distance from the Sun. Well it's obviously not the same thermal environment as low Earth orbit, it doesn't spend half its time in shadow every 45 minutes, Neither do all satellites. If their orbit is inclined enough then they can be in the sun 100%. But we aren't talking about orbits, we are talking about the thermal energy received from the sun. A low Earth orbit satellite that spends 100% of its time in the sun  I'm going to have to ask for the orbital elements of that one because Mr Newton says bullshit. it spends 100% of its time on a baking hot surface. You know what that thermal environment is like? it's like the Moon dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 which still takes time to heat up and cool down It's very fast [link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com (secure)] contrast with Earth where it is slow and gradual because of the atmosphere [link to www.physicalgeography.net] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States05/18/2016 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | three things just never worked, many others as well: Quoting: Mkguyver suit cooling, can't run for hours on batteries. nor operate a heat exchanger in moon vacuum. Their heat exchanger is the same type that they use in suits today. it circulates water around the body that then freezes on the backpack and sublimates away. Only power required is to move some water. Really? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] two people could not get dressed for walking on moon in the lander as designed. nor could they exit the lander with suits on, dimensionally impossible. the door opened inward. there are pics and vids of them exiting with their suits on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65695781 United States05/18/2016 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 i never said they were in low Earth orbit. I said the thermal environment is the same as in low Earth orbit. Same average distance from the Sun. Well it's obviously not the same thermal environment as low Earth orbit, it doesn't spend half its time in shadow every 45 minutes, Neither do all satellites. If their orbit is inclined enough then they can be in the sun 100%. But we aren't talking about orbits, we are talking about the thermal energy received from the sun. A low Earth orbit satellite that spends 100% of its time in the sun I'm going to have to ask for the orbital elements of that one because Mr Newton says bullshit.SOME do, if their orbit is inclined enough then they don't always pass into the shadow of Earth. it spends 100% of its time on a baking hot surface. You know what that thermal environment is like? it's like the Moon dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 which still takes time to heat up and cool down It's very fast [link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com (secure)] contrast with Earth where it is slow and gradual because of the atmosphere [link to www.physicalgeography.net] You realize that lunar daytime is two weeks long. From your diagram the upswing is still multiple days long. multiple days is very fast? and they all landed in lunar morning. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom05/18/2016 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 Well it's obviously not the same thermal environment as low Earth orbit, it doesn't spend half its time in shadow every 45 minutes, Neither do all satellites. If their orbit is inclined enough then they can be in the sun 100%. But we aren't talking about orbits, we are talking about the thermal energy received from the sun. A low Earth orbit satellite that spends 100% of its time in the sun I'm going to have to ask for the orbital elements of that one because Mr Newton says bullshit.SOME do, if their orbit is inclined enough then they don't always pass into the shadow of Earth. A low Earth orbit satellite that spends 100% of its time in the sun, I'm going to have to ask for the orbital elements of that one it spends 100% of its time on a baking hot surface. You know what that thermal environment is like? it's like the Moon dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 which still takes time to heat up and cool down It's very fast [link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com (secure)] contrast with Earth where it is slow and gradual because of the atmosphere [link to www.physicalgeography.net] You realize that lunar daytime is two weeks long. From your diagram the upswing is still multiple days long. multiple days is very fast? and they all landed in lunar morning. That's because the Sun takes two weeks to reach its zenith. The surface, thermometers and imaginary spacemen take minutes or seconds to reach temperature. We know that because the peak temperature is at exactly noon, it doesn't get hottest in the afternoon like Earth. The temperature curves are symmetrical around noon meaning there is no heat inertia otherwise it would take longer to heat and cool and the curve would peak in the afternoon. See that almost flat line between sunset and sunrise [link to tallbloke.files.wordpress.com (secure)] shows the surface responds very quickly to the Sun's input and holds very little heat through the night. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70310636 United States05/19/2016 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65695781 only the surface would be that hot and only their boots would be in contact with it. As for everything else it would be the same thermal environment as in low Earth orbit. They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. There is no air in a vacuum. Therefore there is no ambient temperature. When a scientist talks about the temperature of the Moon, he is talking about the actual temperature of the surface. No air, no convection! Same as low Earth orbit. Please take a few basic science courses. Wow, another dumbass joins the fray, it seems America has a good supply of them. No, it is not like low Earth orbit, they do not spend half their time in the shadow and unlike LEO they are standing on a baking hot surface under a baking hot sun, both of which are radiating heat energy to the imaginary spaceman. The thermometer above the surface heats up like an imaginary spaceman, you do realise they had a number of thermometers at different levels, yes? You just can't make up this kind of dumb. The is no air to radiate heat on the Moon. Nor is there any in low Earth orbit. No air = no convection. There is only light reflected from the Sun and light that is reflected from surface. Why do you think all space suits are white? Aside from boots touching the surface and sunlight, please explain how it would be too hot on the Moon versus low Earth orbit? This is really basic high school science you are failing. Once again: no air = no convection heat transfer Again, take some basic science courses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom05/19/2016 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 They weren't in low Earth Orbit. They were supposed to be on the Moon, like the thermometers. I have heard some crazy excuses for Apollo in my time but that one takes the biscuit. You asked for proof, you got it. Apollo 15 guys were supposed to be wandering around at 156 degrees Apollo 16 much hotter, that's what that NASA data says. There is no air in a vacuum. Therefore there is no ambient temperature. When a scientist talks about the temperature of the Moon, he is talking about the actual temperature of the surface. No air, no convection! Same as low Earth orbit. Please take a few basic science courses. Wow, another dumbass joins the fray, it seems America has a good supply of them. No, it is not like low Earth orbit, they do not spend half their time in the shadow and unlike LEO they are standing on a baking hot surface under a baking hot sun, both of which are radiating heat energy to the imaginary spaceman. The thermometer above the surface heats up like an imaginary spaceman, you do realise they had a number of thermometers at different levels, yes? You just can't make up this kind of dumb. The is no air to radiate heat on the Moon. Nor is there any in low Earth orbit. You sir are an ignoramus. Heat is radiated through a vacuum. No air = no convection. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70310636 There is only light reflected from the Sun and light that is reflected from surface. Why do you think all space suits are white? Idiot [link to www.nasa.gov] Aside from boots touching the surface and sunlight, please explain how it would be too hot on the Moon versus low Earth orbit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70310636 This is really basic high school science you are failing. Once again: no air = no convection heat transfer Again, take some basic science courses. Really, I think you should take a "basic science course". The obvious difference between the Moon and low Earth orbit is that firstly in LEO the "spacemen" spend 45 minutes in the Sun and 45 minutes in the shade. Secondly, and more importantly, they are standing on a hot surface ( the Moon remember ) which is radiating thousands of watts of infrared energy towards the imaginary spaceman. Only robots could survive such a hostile environment. Now please take the time to learn some basic thermodynamics before posting again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70243302  Bulgaria05/19/2016 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the rocket left the earth supposedly at 17k mph. Somehow caught an orbiting moon coasting through the solar system at 66kmph, which moves through empty space in our galaxy at 670k mph, all of which is moving at nearly the speed of light from the Big Bang epicenter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68782227 You fucking idiots that believe we landed on the moon are highly entertaining. The faith you take in in the name of science is foolish and sad. You look at b-rate movies of dorks jumping around on a movie set and parade it as fact, proving you're totally blind to reality. It was a giant production. Space is fake. Rockets can not work in a vacuum consisting of microgravity. Keep bumping this dumb subject. It's fun to see who is still dumb enough to believe this stupid bullshit. I'm sure you think fluoride water is for your teeth too you fucking retards Just reminded me of this poster.... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70310636 United States05/22/2016 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70310636 There is no air in a vacuum. Therefore there is no ambient temperature. When a scientist talks about the temperature of the Moon, he is talking about the actual temperature of the surface. No air, no convection! Same as low Earth orbit. Please take a few basic science courses. Wow, another dumbass joins the fray, it seems America has a good supply of them. No, it is not like low Earth orbit, they do not spend half their time in the shadow and unlike LEO they are standing on a baking hot surface under a baking hot sun, both of which are radiating heat energy to the imaginary spaceman. The thermometer above the surface heats up like an imaginary spaceman, you do realise they had a number of thermometers at different levels, yes? You just can't make up this kind of dumb. The is no air to radiate heat on the Moon. Nor is there any in low Earth orbit. You sir are an ignoramus. Heat is radiated through a vacuum. No air = no convection. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70310636 There is only light reflected from the Sun and light that is reflected from surface. Why do you think all space suits are white? Idiot [link to www.nasa.gov] Aside from boots touching the surface and sunlight, please explain how it would be too hot on the Moon versus low Earth orbit? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70310636 This is really basic high school science you are failing. Once again: no air = no convection heat transfer Again, take some basic science courses. Really, I think you should take a "basic science course". The obvious difference between the Moon and low Earth orbit is that firstly in LEO the "spacemen" spend 45 minutes in the Sun and 45 minutes in the shade. Secondly, and more importantly, they are standing on a hot surface ( the Moon remember ) which is radiating thousands of watts of infrared energy towards the imaginary spaceman. Only robots could survive such a hostile environment. Now please take the time to learn some basic thermodynamics before posting again. Ever heard of insulation? Heat in a vacuum is radiated only by direct contact or light. The environment of the Lunar surface is almost exactly the same as LEO. Where did you get your thousands of watts estimate? Your ass? Prove that the spacesuits do not work and prove that only a robot could survive. Evidence please. The burden of proof lies upon the accuser. It's hilarious and sad that hoaxers think that they've magically picked up on something missed by scientists for the last 50 years. But what do astrophysicists and aerospace engineers know anyway? Must be tough to belong to the super secret knowledge club......... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20339919 United States05/22/2016 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is correct. 5* & pine it. Commie subversives and negro racists in inner city Washington DC and Chicago started the lies about the moon landings. The very first newspaper reports of the Moon landings being a hoax were actually during the landings in the form of polling among different racial groups in DC, Atlanta, and Philly. |
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