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Imagine you setup a mill pressing cold steel sheets and you start buying all the scrap that normally goes to China. There are investment groups already ramping these ops up and the second the law changed.

Thats how efficient our system is. Strike where the iron is hot.
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China has been sending bullshit products to the United States for sometime. There was ban on rebar because the product was so bad that it couldn't be used. They were dumping it in our country at such a low cost that American makers couldn't compete.
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Tariffs have a double beneficial effect.

They help pay for the operation of our government. And they protect Americna businesses and jobs.

The fucknozzles that decided tariffs are bad should all be led out and shot.
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WOW!!! The U.S. is showing some balls finally. Let's see how the Chinese retaliate...but I like it so far.
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That's not balls, and it's not the US.
That's Obama trying to kill industry in America before he is dragged out of office.
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Trump right again!
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Want to know the fucked up part? Much of that Chinese steel is recycled from American scrap that's been exported back over there because our politicians are clueless assholes.

If Trump never came along...this issue would never have been addressed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234808


The steel we import from China is of very low quality.

I was in the shop of a Logging company where some of this imported steel was being cut, and suddenly I started hearing this "pop...pop...pop"...

It turns out there were visible ball bearings in the 3/4" thick plate steel which had not been properly fused during the smelting process and were causing the popping.

Seriously... the fabricator and I could hardly believe what we were seeing.

I have a wood stove nearly 40 years old, built by a neighbor from scrap American steel used to manufacture equipment.

I still use that stove today.

So, I welcome come protectionism on our part when it comes to revitalizing our steel industry.

It would be nice if our textile industry was next.
I doubt we could come up with enough American made clothe to furnish uniforms for our army if we went to war with China!
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Want to know the fucked up part? Much of that Chinese steel is recycled from American scrap that's been exported back over there because our politicians are clueless assholes.

If Trump never came along...this issue would never have been addressed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234808


TRUE


They are probably only doing this so we won't 'need' Trump anymore. Screw them.
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05/18/2016 04:31 PM
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I work in the steel industry (hot rolled) and since 2013 the imports have been killing us. China has so much capacity it's ridiculous. If we ever think we are going to win a war against them we have to avoid losing our US mills.

Whenot we have another WW we better have capacity to build ships, guns, tanks, etc... and over the past 10 years mills have closed. Nucor Steel is a great example of an amazing American steel company. I have a company that does maintenance work for every steel mill in the country. I see this shit everyday.

Our politicians have choked out this industry with dumb environmental and import legislation.
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Imagine you setup a mill pressing cold steel sheets and you start buying all the scrap that normally goes to China. There are investment groups already ramping these ops up and the second the law changed.

Thats how efficient our system is. Strike where the iron is hot.

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RIGHT-THE-FOOK-ON!!!!
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Ok...this is a great test.
If all the tarifftards are right....we'll see Steel mills popping up in the good ol' USA hiring murikans to do murikan work.

hint: this won't happen
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The mills still up and running will get more work and add workers, and when Trump turns the economy back around and reigns in the EPA you will see new mills being built.

I use cold rolled steel all the time and only buy USA produced steel. The Chinese steel is cheap and also sub-standard.
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WOW!!! The U.S. is showing some balls finally. Let's see how the Chinese retaliate...but I like it so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


That's not balls, and it's not the US.
That's Obama trying to kill industry in America before he is dragged out of office.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


You're right about that. 522% is absurd. There will be a steel shortage and that will trickle down to many industries. We don't have enough mills up and running to keep up with demand.

However, it's perfect timing for President Trump to starting rebuilding this economy and getting back on track.

I have faith in American industry and it's ability to rebuild quickly. But it takes throwing the blood sucking politicians, who are selling us out at every turn, out on their asses.

Ohomo won't succeed.
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

The US has raised its import duties on Chinese steelmakers by more than fivefold after accusing them of selling their products below market prices.

The taxes of 522% specifically apply to Chinese-made cold-rolled flat steel, which is used in car manufacturing, shipping containers and construction.

The US Commerce Department ruling comes amid heightened trade tensions between the two sides over several products, including chicken parts.

Steel is an especially sensitive issue.

US and European steel producers claim China is distorting the global market and undercutting them by dumping its excess supply abroad.

The Commerce Department also levied anti-dumping duties of 71% on Japanese-made cold-rolled steel.
 Quoting: Alatucher


And people are complaining about Trump wanting impose a mere 45% tariff?
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WAIT there

this is just a fraction of China steel imported to US
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72228553


The ruling itself is only directed at what is a small amount of steel from China and Japan and won't have much of an impact - but it is the politics of the ruling that's worth noting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72228553


True this will not have any impact on rebar, HR rounds, beams etc. Steel prices are already heading up at an alarming rate. We have seen two price increases from Nucor this month, and that is not for cold rolled, I'm talking HR.
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05/18/2016 04:50 PM
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Good for you guys. I hope you trade fairly with Canada, when it cones to steel we should collectively protecy our tade block.
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05/18/2016 04:53 PM
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WOW!!! The U.S. is showing some balls finally. Let's see how the Chinese retaliate...but I like it so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


They'll just send us a couple million more of their 1,000,000,000 plus population, demographics....the silent weapon.
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WOW!!! The U.S. is showing some balls finally. Let's see how the Chinese retaliate...but I like it so far.
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Ok...this is a great test.
If all the tarifftards are right....we'll see Steel mills popping up in the good ol' USA hiring murikans to do murikan work.

hint: this won't happen
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Why not?
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Ok...this is a great test.
If all the tarifftards are right....we'll see Steel mills popping up in the good ol' USA hiring murikans to do murikan work.

hint: this won't happen
 Quoting: B@Z


Why not?
 Quoting: Esoterica


It will, but what worries me is that they will be foreign owned mills.

Not good.
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probably ok'd by Soros himself to give the gypsy economy a big boost. Watch your steel rain collection barrels.
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Want to know the fucked up part? Much of that Chinese steel is recycled from American scrap that's been exported back over there because our politicians are clueless assholes.

If Trump never came along...this issue would never have been addressed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72234808


Sorta like when Japan was buying up all our scrap metal for several years before WW2.

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My God, the economic ignorance on display is painful.

THIS WILL DRIVE UP COSTS.

THIS WILL DRIVE UP PRICES.

But hey, you can all feel smugly satisfied that you've stuck it to China.
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WOW!!! The U.S. is showing some balls finally. Let's see how the Chinese retaliate...but I like it so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


That's not balls, and it's not the US.
That's Obama trying to kill industry in America before he is dragged out of office.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


You're right about that. 522% is absurd. There will be a steel shortage and that will trickle down to many industries. We don't have enough mills up and running to keep up with demand.

However, it's perfect timing for President Trump to starting rebuilding this economy and getting back on track.

I have faith in American industry and it's ability to rebuild quickly. But it takes throwing the blood sucking politicians, who are selling us out at every turn, out on their asses.

Ohomo won't succeed.
 Quoting: Ziconic


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My God, the economic ignorance on display is painful.

THIS WILL DRIVE UP COSTS.

THIS WILL DRIVE UP PRICES.

But hey, you can all feel smugly satisfied that you've stuck it to China.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Yep.

That's why we need to rebuild mills here. U.S. owned mills.

The next 10 years are going to be very painful for a lot of people. But if our economy is ever going to recover, this process needs to start.

(This is a terrible way to start it though. Ohomo strikes again.)
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Tariffs have a double beneficial effect.

They help pay for the operation of our government. And they protect Americna businesses and jobs.

The fucknozzles that decided tariffs are bad should all be led out and shot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70784965



That's a logical approach to anyone who has a different view from you. Shoot them.

He'll why not kill their families too?

The fact is tariffs are too late in the game. Maybe 10 to 20 years ago it would work. When we had the ore they needed. Now they have it and don't need us.

Tariffs only work if the other country has to sell you product. China can sit on it as long as they want they sell enough plastic to us.

Trump will notake be your savior. I feel sad that people believe deep down and truly that he is different. You are blind. He cares not of you and would rather see you as a slave labor for his future factories.

He is in the good Ole boys club and guess what? you aren't.
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I note that the Obama Admin is now starting to institue the Donald's policies as a preemptive strike.

They do this so they can say, "See, we are already addressing the problems", but they would never have taken action without him broaching the issue.

Don't trust the dims...or the establishment pubbies either. Both take money from overseas interests.
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I note that the Obama Admin is now starting to institue the Donald's policies as a preemptive strike.

They do this so they can say, "See, we are already addressing the problems", but they would never have taken action without him broaching the issue.

Don't trust the dims...or the establishment pubbies either. Both take money from overseas interests.
 Quoting: darth 65107755


Also correct.
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"Obama hands China slam dunk WTO court win in unilateral tariffs on re-imported US steel".
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Ok...this is a great test.
If all the tarifftards are right....we'll see Steel mills popping up in the good ol' USA hiring murikans to do murikan work.

hint: this won't happen
 Quoting: B@Z



I don’t even know if the US makes any commodity steels anymore. It's a joke to put a tariff on a product that we don't make anymore.

Now if you want to promise an even playing field and give industry a 5 years minimum to actually set up to make mass production commodities steel, that’s another thing all together.

Still, I do not know if the US has the ability to turn out the components that make mass production steel plant machinery, probably not. I watched all those massive crown jewels, those gigantic steel making tools and much else shipped out to China 20 years ago.

All industry from the great lakes to the Ohio valley was shipped out like spoils of war and sent to China.

All of US Steel, Bethlehem etc machinery is setup in China.

This might help Korea but not us. Now Korea can gouge the shit out of us.

Economic interdependence of nations is such a Jew joke. Boy, they fucked us again.

There isn’t one policy on earth that isn't a Jews fucking the ethnic Christian European people policy.

All the nice loving so-called "liberal" intellectual policies are nothing but the Jews fucking us.

How in the hell does it help them if they kill us off?
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This is what happens when you do not OWN your country, OR have PROPERTY, Rights of ANY kind, or VOICE…. It's called SOCIALISM… I know… I live in a country SOCIALIST since it's inception.
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"Obama hands China slam dunk WTO court win in unilateral tariffs on re-imported US steel".
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


Fuck WTO, send the B-52's to send them a message, I'm serious.
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I note that the Obama Admin is now starting to institue the Donald's policies as a preemptive strike.

They do this so they can say, "See, we are already addressing the problems", but they would never have taken action without him broaching the issue.

Don't trust the dims...or the establishment pubbies either. Both take money from overseas interests.
 Quoting: darth 65107755


Also correct.
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


That's the other thing.

Obama will say, see this is a disaster, tariffs don't work.





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