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Sleep paralysis, aliens, and shadow entities

 
SpectrumBlue

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I could see being called a nut if it were just one or 2 of us who have seen these things...but after this thread and other forums about them I know better.
And just to clarify, I was seeing these things long before I read anything about them but I thought it was just me and my own personal nighmares.
Apparently many of us have seen them. That tells me something.
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Oh yes and sorry for the double post but I have to say that I think or thought the same way you did. That they were simply nightmares. I haven't read anything about what I have experienced or dreamt till today. Odd that. Now I'm afraid since it's been brought up I'll start having those horrid dreams again.
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I had this happen once, it seemed very real, and very terrifying. It felt like a huge weight held me in place.

I said a prayer, and it vanished. I could then move. I was soaked in sweat. It has never happened since.
 Quoting: yankees


That is me as well. I was house/dog sitting one night and my husband was sleeping next to me when I woke up. I looked at the door which was illuminated by the bathroon light. I saw a figure in the doorway. My first thought was that a kid had broken into the house.

Now this I cannot explain but the figure bent its head sideways. I got this this feeling like it was confused to see me. I tried to scream and move but I couldn't. Except my hands. My hands began to move and I tried going for the phone next to the bed and using my hands to try and smack my husband awake. He made a few noises but didn't wake up.

It was just like a black shape but I thought it was the way the light was shining. Do not mean to be racist but I thought I black kid had broken into the house and was surprised to find us there. I was about to break free to get the phone when I saw one of the dogs casually walk through this thing. That is when I realized there was no one there.

Didn't happen before and hasn't happened since. I thought it may be because of the house.
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If people let these things inside them it will be worse than a storm.
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They must be demons then if they have a desire to possess the human body. Demons are deeply regretful that they can't have a body but humans can. In my religion everyone who agrees with Gods plan is allowed to have a body and go to earth and learn and experience things then eventually if they do their best to do what God asks of them and be good to others then they can be with God. It is said that God even had a body once. However, certain children of God and Lucifer did not agree with God's plan and therefore are cast out of God's presence for all eternity and can never have a body. This is why they desire to take it from us. I saw one of those buggers running around once. Wasn't a shadow, just a small tranlucent thing that looked like a baby standing upright.
 Quoting: SpectrumBlue


Was there any mention of how they take posession of a body? More specifically, why would they need to use paralysis to enter a body? Is it because they can be grabbed physically or maybe there is a way to destroy them by being able to physically do something?

I get the impression that there is only a certain "moment" that they have to wait for before trying to enter. Right between sleep and waking is when they pounce.
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Has to be something to do with our brain waves that change at points during our sleep,what do you guys think? spock
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These "beings" are devils or "higher beings" that feed off us all the time, they love fear and other emotions, its like candy to them.... ive never had any experience like that personaly but i have had them feedin off me while i sit at my computer, it feels like someone or thing is touchin my back, sometimes more presure than others, a couple times i thought it was just my imagination, then "it" pushed alittle harder just to let me know...
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They must be demons then if they have a desire to possess the human body. Demons are deeply regretful that they can't have a body but humans can. In my religion everyone who agrees with Gods plan is allowed to have a body and go to earth and learn and experience things then eventually if they do their best to do what God asks of them and be good to others then they can be with God. It is said that God even had a body once. However, certain children of God and Lucifer did not agree with God's plan and therefore are cast out of God's presence for all eternity and can never have a body. This is why they desire to take it from us. I saw one of those buggers running around once. Wasn't a shadow, just a small tranlucent thing that looked like a baby standing upright.


Was there any mention of how they take posession of a body? More specifically, why would they need to use paralysis to enter a body? Is it because they can be grabbed physically or maybe there is a way to destroy them by being able to physically do something?

I get the impression that there is only a certain "moment" that they have to wait for before trying to enter. Right between sleep and waking is when they pounce.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76093

We don't know much about them. It's all hear say and theory.someone mentioned them seeming to want to enter the body and I was offering an explanation. Who knows for certain. For all we know it could be all in our heads. There is a thing called hypnogogia where in the state between waking and sleeping the mind tends to see thinsg that aren't there. And I do know this to be certain because I remember dreaming still while in that state. So we really don't know. simple theories.
And that paralysis could be simple fear or the cognitive mind not working properly enough to make our limbs move and our voices work. Anything we say in our dreams are usually only said in our heads, so being half awake and half asleep the mind might not be able to make a connection to the physical movement just yet.
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Last time I had a sleep attack like the ones described was about 5 years ago. I hate it. It is terrifying. I usually say the lord's prayer and it knocks me out of it.
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I think sleep paralysis is bs. I move around all night while sleeping and dreaming an so doesnt my girlfriend. The only time sleep paralysis comes is when its induced by the shadow entities and then they jump on me.
But I've learned to break out of the sleep paralysis right before they jump, and I always find I wasnt sleeping.

Anyone with a similiar experience?
 Quoting: Fighter of sleep 81541



Call to a higher level entity to fight off these lower level guys. Any religious deity will work well. Also visualizing a indigo ball around your body will bounce them off you as well. They are just vampires trying to suck you dry and get you off track.
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I could imagine an old person getting a heart attack if this happened to them.
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I could imagine an old person getting a heart attack if this happened to them.
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I felt like i was having one and im only 42,thats how bad they scare me.
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Interesting topic indeed. If only I had the desire to elaborate my stories in finite detail. But I don't. By now I have become a bit protective of my stories, especially any strange metaphysical ones. I will share a little however, as I think it may be beneficial to some. Its a bit "woo wooic" but I experienced it so in my world it is real.

I used to practice OBE, starting around age 14. I became proficient at it by 16. One of the key components of OBE is a state similar to "sleep paralasis" where the body becomes so relazed it is practically numb. There are many other sensations and whatnot, but this is a part of the experience, where the experiencer disassociates themselves form the body. That part should be in bold, disassociates from the body.

I know of many types of entities. These ones that you are calling Shadow Entities well your title is ...inconclusive. You could more accurately define them as "Powerful men and women who know very special techniques for assuming control of a physical body of another human". This would be a mouthful I suppose but accurate. I know I know your very evident arguement "but they are NOT men and/or women". Once the energetic essence is capable of travel (without the corperal shell) a practitioner of such arts could form themselves into nearly any immaginable or unimmaginable shape or form.

Now, I give a gift of my collected knowledge, OP you may find this very handy. When you see or suspect a nearby "strange entity or energy form" point your pinky finger at it, and in your mind (or aloud if you so choose) say "True form" with the clear intent of seeing their true form. You will see your shadow turn into a blob of "light" with a strange hue, take note of the shape and hue, humans are roundish, as are most organics... It will take them weeks to recover from this one simple maneuver (you basically "broke" their form, which they can and will repair). The entity may return, but it is unlikely, as you have made it known to them that you are not completely powerless. Also remember that the FEELING of being powerless makes you so. This could be called "the Dark side of The Secret", the very art that governments and religious institutions use for the "benefit of humanity".

Rule of thumb: Only one conciousness can have control of your vehicle at any given time. If someone steals your car, and gets into an accident, you might not be held accountable. It is not the same with your Body, as all evidence points to You.

Reccommendation: If you are plagued by these things, learn as much as you can about your abilities to protect yourself, shield yourself, and repel them. I prefer letting them taste, and see for themselves that I am not palatable to them at all, most people are quite tastey however!!
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"Also remember that the FEELING of being powerless makes you so. This could be called "the Dark side of The Secret", the very art that governments and religious institutions use for the "benefit of humanity".

A Profound statement!
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Re: Sleep paralysis, aliens, and shadow entities
Demonic activity.


If you notice, you can either fight or give in. Fighting can last all night, even after one has been fully awake for some time. As far as giving in... its as if you are dying and being engulfed in terror and darkness. Then maybe you are "enlightened" by their possession? Don't be decieved. Don't give in to the void.

They attack when you are almost asleep because your body is most vulnerable, obviously. Your brain is halfway between wake and sleep - thus they use your body's own paralysis against you, keeping you aware whilst you start to slip into thier grip.

Mind you, sin is a doorway for these entities. Prayer is always a good thing. If you are aware of their presence, then you have an advantage - they are always lurking, and they have boundaries which they cannot pass. These boundaries change. It is up to you. Rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ, and they are powerless. Before long you will be sleeping without a night light again.

Obviously, don't dabble in the black arts or you are just begging for some company. Those who find such things mysteriously 'attractive' in an intellectual manner can get themselves in just as much trouble.


(I type this from personal experience)

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This is not dream.
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As you said(in between awake and asleep)just as i was driffting off to sleep i could feel this strange wave of energy or something going all through me and it was very annoying and would piss me off!!!I had to start having a drink or two before bed so i could escape this.But for the past couple of months it hasnt happened.




I started forcing out all my negative thoughts and did my best to stay in a neutral zone,taking one day at a time with things going on around me and it has really helped a lot. What ever these things were even went after my 14 year old and scared her half to death,these things are for real.
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once when I was entering sleep paralysis I wa able to access my photographic memory fo rmy entire life. It was amazing .but eventually turned really scarry
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Havent had them since quite a lot of years, but just last week I have got someting that maybe is worst, after many years of no unusual happening in my life this fact has come very unexpected.

I was awakening and had a harm crossed on the right half of my face so that the right eye was under him and closed, I opened my left eye and there was that strange buzzz bzzzz sound in the room while i was focusing and comin in full consciusness there was another strange sound that seemed like a kind of ancient elevator door coming down our up sounded like a crank..crank sound but a little softer It was coming from the right side of the bed, I waited a few more seconds then i decided to turn my head and look there, there was nothing that i could see.

Just astrange.
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That is very strange! spock
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Dream world + Real world = Freaky things that make you question reality.

Still, I think its all a brain glitch. Like how most airplane crashes occur during take-off and landing.
Rarrgh!
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After listening to coast to coast last nute its obvious these shadow entities are aliens from outer space. Anyone else listen to coast to coast last nite and come to the same conclusion? alien03
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The black shadow entity always pounces on me and when I try to scream for help or move I'm paralysied, but recently I am able to break out of the paralysis right before it pounces, and when I do I am just where I thought I was and was not dreaming. The whole episode lasts only a few moments, but I have trained my body to be aware of the paralysis coming on.

Coming out of the paraylisis is kind of hard but if I can do it so could anyone.

Thats why I think its not sleep paralysis my body makes to protect me from moving around while dreaming...cause I move around while dreaming, so does my girlfriend.

Its induced paralysis, done by the shadow entities, and used to access my body for some reason. The shadow entities use it to subdue the "victim".


Since I have also had an "old hag experience", where a gargoyle looking creature was sitting on my chest looking at me, and me being totally paralysied in my bed looking at it, I have come to the conclusion the shadow entities and gargole like creatures are probably the same type of "shadow animal".

For some reason they usually only attack when I am sleeping on my back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 170088


the harder you fight, the harder they will pounce on you. Just give in and don't fight it. LOL
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I used to have this happen to me all the time.

I have read a lot about it and a lot of OBE material says that your body's mind wakes up while you are still in a OBE and so your body's mind starts recording... overriding your OBE memories, it's not lost it's just forgotten for the time being because your awareness goes to your body and as you are not yet in your body, you are paralyzed until you get inside your body.

Kind of like a car alarm. Your car alarm goes off and you go to your car.

I don't think anyone can jack your body.

The shadow and light figures you see are there ALL THE TIME. Animals see them always. You only see them when you are in this relaxed state because you're mind and body is so relaxed that you are not thinking much and so your filters are down. You are always bombarded with information and your subconscious is aware of it but your conscious is survival instincts and only sees what best serves it. Kind of like selective hearing.

If I get sick, I see more shadow figures. One time I was sick and I was up all night couldn't sleep, I saw a shadow figure walk across my room and came to the end of my bed and stood there, and then it sat down and I felt the bed move like there was weight... Wasn't an evil entity, didn't sense that.
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I used to have this happen to me all the time.

I have read a lot about it and a lot of OBE material says that your body's mind wakes up while you are still in a OBE and so your body's mind starts recording... overriding your OBE memories, it's not lost it's just forgotten for the time being because your awareness goes to your body and as you are not yet in your body, you are paralyzed until you get inside your body.

Kind of like a car alarm. Your car alarm goes off and you go to your car.

I don't think anyone can jack your body.

The shadow and light figures you see are there ALL THE TIME. Animals see them always. You only see them when you are in this relaxed state because you're mind and body is so relaxed that you are not thinking much and so your filters are down. You are always bombarded with information and your subconscious is aware of it but your conscious is survival instincts and only sees what best serves it. Kind of like selective hearing.

If I get sick, I see more shadow figures. One time I was sick and I was up all night couldn't sleep, I saw a shadow figure walk across my room and came to the end of my bed and stood there, and then it sat down and I felt the bed move like there was weight... Wasn't an evil entity, didn't sense that.
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I have had 5 sleep paralysis experiences in my life and have never seen any being, just an occasional OBE, the feeling of pressure on my upper torso and fear at first.

Everyones body becomes paraylised before entering the dream state.

Sometimes, especially if very tired your brain triggers the "Enter dream mode - release paralysing chemicals" mode while you are half awake. It can be frightening if you have non-rational magical thinking and don't understand that its natural and no "outside force" is doing anything.

The best way to come out of the state has already been pointed to by other posters on this thread, they are:

Acknowledge you are having sleep paralysis

Remain calm, it is just a mind state and your body feels that way because your body needs to be paralised when your dreaming other wise you will start moving around

Gently try to move a finger or toe or another part of your body, this helps your brain jolt out of the "release paralysing chemicals" mode.

It is natural, and just a dream.

Thinking about demons, strange creatures or aliens will just make you have a nightmare when in that state, as you are half asleep and half awake.

Chill out people, rational thought is your friend, try it.






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I agree with thanatos, I think it's a brain glitch. Read up on that hypnogogic stuff. make perfect sense.
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When I realise I'm paralysied I'm not frightened at all. Its when the shadow entity moves from out of the shadows that freaks me out.
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"I think sleep paralysis is bs"

I Think that Statement is BS!......

.....only because I know.

It happened to me all the time as a preteen. (that seems to be when it starts for some reason().

I experienced MANY episodes of this &, at the time, took notes accordingly.

Things I observed..

.it always started between laying there & actual sleep. It started (for me)with a single increasing pitch note (I belive its a D#) that gets louder as it consumes you.

It envelopes you in that pitch/sound until you begin to "Feel" a presence. I use parenthesis on "FEEL" because to anyone it has happened to ...its more that "feel". .....you KNOW someone/sonething is there RIGHT NEXST to you, breathing on you!.

I became aware that the breathing was a phased but, in-sync analog of that Pitch/buzz that fills your head.


As the buzz increased was when your limbs begin to feel very heavy. You know someone/thing is right next to you in the room but become paralyized.

Having asthma, I did feel a heavy discomfort in my chest but never had the "hag" visualization, (perhaps due to my crisis breathing (asthma ) training.

throughout the years, when I hear that pitch, I have had girlfriends stay up at night watching me & the room as "They" move about. Noone has ever seen anything except me twitching, attempting to scream.

If you struugle, you might break free & awake.


I have come to beleive its a trance/ transcendental thing that is happening.

Oddly enough, in my teen years, when I smoked weed, it went away completely.

came back after I quit
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One other ODD thing I noted.


When it happenes, if you SUBMIT to it & check your fear, you seem to move off into a deep refreshing sleep.
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OP..... As well as others.....it has been discussed here before.

I know perfectly well of what you speak. They do not plague me now, but for 30 years I was haunted off and on. I can only compare it to a lucid dream..... You are aware, not like a dream, there was always a shadowy figure standing nearby. I was only pounced upon one time..... it was the most horrifying experience of my life..... It stood directly at my bed side and pushed it's face down against mine...... a horrible demon like face (classic). I learned that the only way to escape the paralysis was to relax.... easier said than done, but it was the only thing that ever worked for me, the harder I struggled the longer it lasted.
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Just because the people in the room couldnt see it doesnt mean it isnt there. You saw it because your brain waves were tuned differently due to the sleep/wake situtation you were in.

I advise caution in letting it in just to get some sleep.
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Oh one more thing...... most of the time it happened....when I went to bed I would have an erie feeling like my skin was crawling and I'd have a chill, not all the time just most times. I am quite relieved now that that they almost never happen anymore.

The most unusual occurrence happened in the 79 to 80 timeframe..... it was already light outside and my eyes opened to see light coming in through the window and a tree branch blowing in the wind. I heard a loud buzzing sound for most of it until the very end when a loud voice boomed out and said "I will talk to you later .... scochinse". I close my eyes for a moment and was then able to move ..... when I opened my eyes again I was facing the window looking at the tree branch blowing in the wind. Never heard the voice again.
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