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THIS SUCKS. 13 YR OLD STUDENT FINDS GUN AT SCHOOL & TURNS IT IN. GETS EXPELLED FOR POSSESSION.

 
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Student ordered to be home schooled
Parents say boy was doing the right thing by turning in pellet gun

December 14, 2006
By Ken O'Brien STAFF WRITER
JOLIET – The school board for an elementary district has chosen to have a student home schooled instead of expelling him in response to a possession of a gun incident.

The board at Troy Elementary School District made that decision Wednesday night after administrators recommended an expulsion. On Nov. 15, the boy found a pellet gun and turned it over to an official at Troy Middle School, which educates 7th and 8th graders, in Shorewood, officials said.

The school board, in a statement released after the meeting, declined to name the boy, saying that it would comply with the confidentiality of student records as mandated by state law.

However, the parents of Ryan Morgan notified Chicago area media, including television stations, about the board’s consideration of the issue at its monthly meeting. They also discussed the situation with television reporters.

Ryan Morgan said that he and another student heard that a gun had been stashed in a boys bathroom and they went there, finding it in a garbage can. Morgan reportedly handed the gun over to an assistant principal soon afterwards.

The district administration investigated the incident, but the board’s lawyer, John M. Izzzo, declined to say what happened to the student who brought the gun to the school. A Chicago television station, Ch. 7, reported that the other boy was criminally charged. Asked if the Joliet police department was called, Izzo declined to comment.

Morgan’s parents, Roy and Audrey, asked the board to give their son a 10-day suspension. They opposed the option of sending the 13-year-old boy to an alternative school.

The board spent nearly three hours in closed session and then returned to consider the issue. Izzo said administrators were bound by state law to bring an expulsion recommendation to the board.

But the board had several options under state law, including the choice of home schooling or offering a placement in an alternative school, Izzo said.

“I think the decision wasn’t the best decision,” Ryan Morgan said as his family left the board meeting at the Troy Middle School. He said he was doing “the right thing” by giving the weapon to an adult.

“The situation wasn’t investigated thoroughly and justice wasn’t made,” Roy Morgan added. “The justice that was made was too harsh.”

Roy Morgan declined to say what he would do next, other than to talk to his wife, his attorney and possibly his pastor. He told a Chicago television station that he was “not accepting what they want to do to my son.”

After the meeting, board members and Superintendent Larry Wiers declined to discuss the case. In the statement, district officials said that “purposeful possession of weapons is one of the most serious offenses a student can commit and requires close consideration by the administration.”

Afterwards, Izzo said that district officials decided that “it would be in the best interest of the student and the school to continue provide this student with educational opportunities through home bound study.” The board considered mitigating factors in its decision, he said.

The board was able to consider several factors, such as grade point average and involvement at the school, Izzo said. The Illinois school provides that the possession of a weapon will result in a student being expelled for at least a year and possibly up to two years, he said.

But the superintendent, under the state provision, must present an expulsion recommendation to the board, Izzo said. However, the board can modify the punishment.

He declined to discuss the specifics of the recommendation and the length of the suggested expulsion. In this case, the board decision will affect Morgan for the rest of the first semester, covering roughly a month of classes, and for all of the second semester, Izzo said.
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Re: THIS SUCKS. 13 YR OLD STUDENT FINDS GUN AT SCHOOL & TURNS IT IN. GETS EXPELLED FOR POSSESSION.
Liberal lawmakers have banned thinking, just follow the law.
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laugh

Another example of retards in power
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Re: THIS SUCKS. 13 YR OLD STUDENT FINDS GUN AT SCHOOL & TURNS IT IN. GETS EXPELLED FOR POSSESSION.
Typical morons in power bull shit. I remember reading how the dept of fish and game was set up by sportsmen to make sure there would always be plenty of fish and game to fish and hunt.

The fuckers in power use it now to protect the fish and game from the sportsmen. lol

Its like a few days ago when they arrested a four year old for sexual battery on a teacher.

Makes me puke.
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Izzo said administrators were bound by state law to bring an expulsion recommendation to the board. But the board had several options under state law, including the choice of home schooling or offering a placement in an alternative school, Izzo said.
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Can someone explain to me how forced homeschooling or being put into another school is NOT expulsion?

I always thought that expulsion was just being kicked out of one school.
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laugh

<snip>

****declined to name the boy, saying that it would comply with the confidentiality of student records as mandated by state law.

However, the parents of Ryan Morgan notified Chicago area media,*****

<snip>

Declined to name the student then named him anyway... Complete idiots
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The moral of the story:

In Amerika, if you do the "right thing" you can and will be held accountable in a court of law.

Now for all the Merkan bashing non-Merkans out there Please use this as a reference. We the people are bound and gagged. Removing the gag OR the bindings for any reason leads only to a direct increase in "opposing forces" in our daily lives.

The training here seems to be "turn the other cheek, or else" but as the saying goes:

Evil prevails when good men do nothing (I forget who said it, but Im sure someone knows)
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I wonder....what sort of message is the school board giving the children?

It sure seems like "keep your mouth shut and do not trust authorities."

Now that I think about it, that might not be such a bad thing!
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this is a lesson for the kid, dont be a rat.
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they should honor the kid in the local community...discounts, freebies, a commendation in the local paper, ect. that would tell the school authorities to "sit on it" [as in HAPPY DAYS] and show support, as in "you boneheads do not speak for the PEOPLE".

i think the kid will get better grades and higher test scores from being home schooled than he would at the community school, thereby reinforcing the message that doublethink is not a good thing.

"this is a lesson for the kid, dont be a rat."

is there a precise definition of a "RAT"?? i don't think he turned on a person, he reported what he thought was a weapon...what did he owe the people who put it there?
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More insanity in America. The boy should be honored. He did the right thing.
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"No good deed goes unpunished."

Just goes to show - there's nothing new under the sun.
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My son was given an out of school suspension for 2 days because another kid started a fight with him & my son was only protecting himself.
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thinking.

knowing there was a gun there...he did have the choice to not touch it (retain possession) and simply tell adults where it was located. first mistake.

he took possession and then it was "a while" before he gave it over to an adult...he should have simply told an adult where it was located and he'd have been out of it totally...why didn't he hand it immediately to an adult? second mistake.

his parents allowed the law to be brought in...maybe now they will work to get the law changed?
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this is a valuable lesson for the boy - when you find a gun, keep it - you may have to use it against Nazis who try to punish you for doing what's right
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this is a valuable lesson for the boy - when you find a gun, keep it - you may have to use it against Nazis who try to punish you for doing what's right
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Exactly what I was thinking! What idiot finds a gun and then turns it in anyway? Christ, I'd give my left nut for a nice, unregistered .357 magnum.
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laugh

<snip>

****declined to name the boy, saying that it would comply with the confidentiality of student records as mandated by state law.

However, the parents of Ryan Morgan notified Chicago area media,*****

<snip>

Declined to name the student then named him anyway... Complete idiots
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The school did not want to name the boy, but the parents wanted everyone to know how stupid the school was being to their son. The parents pubished their name...
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thinking.

knowing there was a gun there...he did have the choice to not touch it (retain possession) and simply tell adults where it was located. first mistake.

he took possession and then it was "a while" before he gave it over to an adult...he should have simply told an adult where it was located and he'd have been out of it totally...why didn't he hand it immediately to an adult? second mistake.

his parents allowed the law to be brought in...maybe now they will work to get the law changed?
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Some errors in judgment...still does not make any sense at all for the school board to behave as they did. The parents wanted a 10 day suspension, recognizing the kid's stupidity(your options are reasonable and I thought the same thing~~why not just tell an adult about it..BUT the EXCITEMENT of seeing the gun and holding it prevailed...not at all unusual for a teen).
The Board had other options and should have been more flexible.

I agree that homeschooling is better anyway, but the boy is probably involved in activities that are now denied him. Tragic and UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!!!!
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this is a valuable lesson for the boy - when you find a gun, keep it - you may have to use it against Nazis who try to punish you for doing what's right


Exactly what I was thinking! What idiot finds a gun and then turns it in anyway? Christ, I'd give my left nut for a nice, unregistered .357 magnum.
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sorry...this was a pellet gun.
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Some errors in judgment...still does not make any sense at all for the school board to behave as they did. The parents wanted a 10 day suspension, recognizing the kid's stupidity(your options are reasonable and I thought the same thing~~why not just tell an adult about it..BUT the EXCITEMENT of seeing the gun and holding it prevailed...not at all unusual for a teen).
The Board had other options and should have been more flexible.

I agree that homeschooling is better anyway, but the boy is probably involved in activities that are now denied him. Tragic and UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE!!!!
 Quoting: Amethyst 162892

well heck ya! ya find a pellet gun ya go out and see if it works...right? that's what any kid i know would do...then turn it in ...hmmmm wonder if they were caught shooting it and then he handed it in?? would make more sense if that were the case...but still...expected child behavior i would think.

doubt the boy was in any school activities...therefore they didn't see any reason for him not to be in homeschooling...they still cover cost of school material and maybe he can actually gain better resources. kids should be allowed to be kids too.
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What this incident shows in how the liberal left, cant tell the difference in the written law and the spirit of the law. They look at a law that says....If a student has a gun in his or her possession, then they must be punished."

They apply the law to this kid because they are too stupid to understand why the original law was written. Its called plain old common sense. It seems to have been lost in all the Abortion on demand, affirmative action, Gay rights, and political correctness that so prevails in the education system.

Poor kids...
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this is a valuable lesson for the boy - when you find a gun, keep it - you may have to use it against Nazis who try to punish you for doing what's right


Exactly what I was thinking! What idiot finds a gun and then turns it in anyway? Christ, I'd give my left nut for a nice, unregistered .357 magnum.
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Geez, don't do anything that drastic, they don't cost that much.
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But hey look "Student ordered to be home schooled" , at least he got the best of it ! no more public "commie" schoolin' ! brainout :xmas-smile:
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Hmmmm

I think this is a good sign that a public reforendum needs to be abpplied nationally.


I think a simple law that would require all law enforcement, teachers and other public servents to due jail time for all stupid acts should fix this pretty quick!

I'm not talking twenty years here either, just throw them in jail over the weekend and threaten to keep doing it until they straighten up! :)

But of course, NOTHING will be done, the situation will keep getting worse and more freedoms rights and honors taken away from all good citizens while the debunkers/skeptics and shills call out..."Well, THEY DESERVED IT FOIR TRYING TO HAVE RIGHTS!" :)

We've seen this game for too long not to know what is going on...
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this is a valuable lesson for the boy - when you find a gun, keep it - you may have to use it against Nazis who try to punish you for doing what's right
 Quoting: W199i


I'm sure the kid DID learn a valuable lesson. Just not the lesson the idiots running things meant for him to learn.

Another gummint hater is born. And America will be better off for it.
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My youngest daughter, ten years ago, was being bullied by 3 older students but she was arrested, suspended from school and convicted in juvenile court for carrying a weapon when the principal found a disposible razor in her purse. The same disposible razor that FTA and all prisons classify as a toilitry item!!! This was after a memo was placed in the school asking students to bring toiletry items to sent to troops over seas and listed was the disposible razor... Needless to say she dropped out of school and got her GED, went on to nursing school and has left that dumb public school situation far behind. pray daily for my grandkids and hope they do not become victim of the insane "Zero Tolerance Policy".
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The moral of the story:

In Amerika, if you do the "right thing" you can and will be held accountable in a court of law.

Now for all the Merkan bashing non-Merkans out there Please use this as a reference. We the people are bound and gagged. Removing the gag OR the bindings for any reason leads only to a direct increase in "opposing forces" in our daily lives.

The training here seems to be "turn the other cheek, or else" but as the saying goes:

Evil prevails when good men do nothing (I forget who said it, but Im sure someone knows)
 Quoting: Dexter


i've learned that here,i told the truth to help a child,against an allready convicted paedo,they help him with everything and have hung me.tried to die 3 times since this,i can;t live n such a sick place.i dont even know where to start to tell a lawyer or if any point.i just want an end now,i was stunned how evil drs etc were.
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