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why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?

 
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
if all your needs are met by someone or something for the benefit of all.that my friend is socialism. given by god which makes it perfect. now make me understand with your infinite wisdom. do you understand this?
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God providing man everything

in no way even remotely resembles in any way whatsoever

men by force taking from some men and giving to other men but mostly keeping for themselves.

Do you understand this?
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no, i don't.
god providing man everything is socialism.

"men by force taking from some men and giving to other men but mostly keeping for themselves."

is stealing, and i don't think much of that will be going on in heaven.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
you should be chuckling at yourself for being a tard OP...socialists steal from and enslave all for the benefit of a few..god takes nothing from any and provides all...not an ounce of socialist bs in heaven
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you should be chuckling at yourself for being such a fucking retard.
1.socialism doesn't steal anything. your talking about corrupted socialism. get the difference?
2."and provides all" = socialism
3."socialists steal from"
who?,from capitalists? who gained their success on the backs of the broken so they can live in the big house on the hill while everyone else suffers in squalor.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Okay - Socialism is redistribution of wealth, tell me tard what material wealth is there in heaven? If there is no money or materialism in heaven how can there be redistrubution of non existant wealth ie socialism? When are you tards going to start thinking for yourselves?
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so you don't think having everything being provided for you is socialism?
and yes god redistributes HIS WEALTH to everyone freely and unabated no questions asked, equals socialism. who's the tard?
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05/22/2016 02:23 AM
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
If you think we have pure capitalism go make your own currency. Just kidding, don't do that, you could die
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
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Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
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your a fucking retard if you think bernie sanders or any other earthly form of corrupted socialism is what i meant.if god privides for all then that is socialism.period.

"Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?"

where did i do that?
so what your saying is heaven is a capitalist society where a few get everything while the rest suffer.
your the fucking retard you can't even understand the question
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Yeah Heaven is definitely more socialist. Sharing everything.

You won't be able to be rich, run a business, own a gun in heaven lol
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Socialism is the exact opposite of Christianity. To call socialism "sharing" is like calling rape "making love". No one is going to put a gun to your head in heaven and say, "Give me half of the fruits of all your labor, or else."

Socialism is theft, and the Bible says:

But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. (Matt. 6:20)

Here's what the Bible says about the new heaven and the new earth:

They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. (Isaiah 65:22)

No one's going to take what's yours away from you in heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72244092


Nothing new that socialists like the OP would lie.
The idiot never read about Biblical Capitalism.


This is a decent summation of it:
*the rule of law
*objective moral values to protect the innocent
*unalienable rights given by God
*equal treatment for all under the law
*private property rights
*encouragement of Christianity and its elements of mercy to others in society
*free enterprise without government distortion except to enforce the above

Socialism on the other hand is the government with the threat of violence putting it's hand in your pocket and delivers it to those that refuse to work, stealing from you to feed those that want to be parasites. Not ok.

And they always try to mix us up with the crony capitalists, they are in and of themselves a bunch of crooks, they don't care about the rule of law or Christianity and it's parts about mercy they are after all crony.

But it's no surprise a socialist would do that, they make a bloody strawman and start believing their own strawman lies.
Pathetic OP is pathetic.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


what's funny is, is that a lot of you people compare socialism on earth (run by corruption) with socialism in heaven with god at the helm.

here chew on this:
everything you said below you would find in a socialist heaven except: (*free enterprise without government distortion except to enforce the above)
because gov't wouldn't need to enforce anything because there wouldn't be any dissenters or corruption.

*the rule of law
*objective moral values to protect the innocent
*unalienable rights given by God
*equal treatment for all under the law
*private property rights
*encouragement of Christianity and its elements of mercy to others in society
*free enterprise without government distortion except to enforce the above.

" mercy to others in society" if you help the homeless by giving them a meal isn't that a form of socialism? haves giving to the haves not?


*encouragement of Christianity and its elements of mercy to others in society
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72145939


your a fucking retard if you think bernie sanders or any other earthly form of corrupted socialism is what i meant.if god privides for all then that is socialism.period.

"Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?"

where did i do that?
so what your saying is heaven is a capitalist society where a few get everything while the rest suffer.
your the fucking retard you can't even understand the question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


God doesn't steal, socialist steal. All socialists are thieves.

God speaks and it is.

I'll let you chew on that one :D
Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com]
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72145939


your a fucking retard if you think bernie sanders or any other earthly form of corrupted socialism is what i meant.if god privides for all then that is socialism.period.

"Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?"

where did i do that?
so what your saying is heaven is a capitalist society where a few get everything while the rest suffer.
your the fucking retard you can't even understand the question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


God doesn't steal, socialist steal. All socialists are thieves.

God speaks and it is.

I'll let you chew on that one :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


another retard that can't read
i'm talking about the socialist system not socialist rulers
learn to understand what you read and you will know the difference.
who do socialists steal from, capitalists? there are no capitalists in a socialist system to steal from, retard.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
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I kind of chuckle when I hear people claim what you have about capitalism. It is the only truly moral system.

this is a small taste of what happens when your beloved government is taken over by socialists and crony capitalists.

Crony capitalists like socialism/communism because there is no competition for the rape and plunder.

The mass murders come later.

[link to lfb.org]


When the law no longer serves the people, as individuals, the law begins to serve only a few at the great expense of the many.

“Unfortunately,” Bastiat wrote, “law by no means confines itself to its proper functions. And when it has exceeded its proper functions, it has not done so merely in some inconsequential and debatable matters. The law has gone further than this: it has acted in direct opposition to its own purpose.”

And when the law goes full ratchet, you eventually receive, courtesy of Washington’s Blog, a system of governance in which…

Senior SEC employees spent up to 8 hours a day surfing porn sites instead of cracking down on financial crimes
Nuclear Regulatory Commission workerswatch porn instead of cracking down on unsafe conditions at nuclear plants
An EPA employee who downloaded 7,000 porn files, then spent 2-6 hours each workday watching porn. He’s been doing it for years … but the EPA never fired him. Another EPA employee harassed 16 women co-workers … and then was promoted to a higher-paying job with more responsibility, where he harassed more women.
NSA spies pass around homemade sexual videos and pictures they’ve collected from spying on the American people

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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Christians have a strong work ethic and do not like supporting those who do not. And they are absolutely right to feel this way.

In Heaven of course no one will be scamming the system or committing fraud in order to sit on their sorry ass.

Not the case here on earth.

Wherever there is a mixed economy here on earth you will find rampant abuse of all forms of welfare.

OP is one of the lazy no good piles of crap who like to sit back and coast on other people's sweat.

Guess what scumbag. You will never make it to socialist Heaven. Or any other heaven.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Christians have a strong work ethic and do not like supporting those who do not. And they are absolutely right to feel this way.

In Heaven of course no one will be scamming the system or committing fraud in order to sit on their sorry ass.

Not the case here on earth.

Wherever there is a mixed economy here on earth you will find rampant abuse of all forms of welfare.

OP is one of the lazy no good piles of crap who like to sit back and coast on other people's sweat.

Guess what scumbag. You will never make it to socialist Heaven. Or any other heaven.
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so i guess if and when you get to heaven and god gives to you freely from his wealth you'll refuse, saying, "no thanks i don't believe in this retarded system of yours, i'll do it myself" and then maybe you can give god a lecture on how he shouldn't be giving away his wealth to help others. i'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to that one.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
You don't really have a grasp on what Christians believe. This is the problem.
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there are no tiers in heaven.
no 1st Class and 3rd Class.
everyone is equal.
perfect socialism.
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LOL they're not gonna like hearing that.

chuckle
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Wow..what were you smoking,to think that this was a good question?

Having our divine/perfect creator provide all our needs in heaven;isn't remotely comparable to having a corrupt,globalist backed socialist government do it for us.
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Hum... I think you meant globalist backed capitalist government. All those big 100 story towers around the world, those fancy mercedes, those villas, golf courses, your lotteries, all those things are not backed by socialism. I hope you will not go into shock in the next few minutes.
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I think you're going to short circuit them with that one. Dumbasses.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
You don't really have a grasp on what Christians believe. This is the problem.
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christians mostly have beliefs and almost no TRUTH
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
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your a fucking retard if you think bernie sanders or any other earthly form of corrupted socialism is what i meant.if god privides for all then that is socialism.period.

"Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?"

where did i do that?
so what your saying is heaven is a capitalist society where a few get everything while the rest suffer.
your the fucking retard you can't even understand the question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


God doesn't steal, socialist steal. All socialists are thieves.

God speaks and it is.

I'll let you chew on that one :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


again beloved.. you do NOT COMPREHEND the CREATING TRINITY At ALL. It does not "speak".


GOD the Father indwells humans.. he doesn't fly around in the sky. There ARE however members of the celestial government who do speak.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Yeah Heaven is definitely more socialist. Sharing everything.

You won't be able to be rich, run a business, own a gun in heaven lol
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We will be rich beyond comprehension. Everyone will. But here's the rub: If someone "has more" than I have - like a bigger mansion, etc., I WILL KNOW it's because they deserve it, and I'll be happy for them, it won't make me jealous....big diff from here.

We will work, but it will be jobs we will enjoy, no drudgery.

We won't NEED to own guns, because there is NO evil there!
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You are insane.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Are men likely to produce more or less

when other men will take it from them?


Do you understand this?
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What the fuck are you talking about? What you just said is my experience with Capitalism. I'm sure it's happened to others too.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
your a fucking retard...

your the fucking retard...
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You + are = You're

as in

You are a fucking retard

since

You're the fucking retard.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Are men likely to produce more or less

when other men will take it from them?


Do you understand this?
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What the fuck are you talking about? What you just said is my experience with Capitalism. I'm sure it's happened to others too.
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How is Socialism supplied?
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
How do the Socialists give you?

What do they have?
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
i kind of chuckle when i hear people claiming to be christian and then defend capitalism which is a very divisive,unloving system. what's the point of going to heaven if it's just like here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


Socialist? What fucking drugs have you injested that make you think that Bernie Sander's Policies are anything to do with Christianity? Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?
You are a fucking illiterate piece of shit that Obama left in a public toilet back in the 70s! It has come back to life and now roams the country attending Hillary and Bernie rallies complaining that it got a bumrap!

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72145939


your a fucking retard if you think bernie sanders or any other earthly form of corrupted socialism is what i meant.if god privides for all then that is socialism.period.

"Why would you dirty the Holy Spirit of the Eternal and bring into disrepute his glorious name?"

where did i do that?
so what your saying is heaven is a capitalist society where a few get everything while the rest suffer.
your the fucking retard you can't even understand the question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71513197


God doesn't steal, socialist steal. All socialists are thieves.

God speaks and it is.

I'll let you chew on that one :D
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Capitalists steal. Look at the laws that support Capitalism. It's legalized stealing!
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
Are men likely to produce more or less

when other men will take it from them?


Do you understand this?
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What the fuck are you talking about? What you just said is my experience with Capitalism. I'm sure it's happened to others too.
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How is Socialism supplied?
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Don't ask me, I live in a Capitalistic shithole.
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Re: why do christians aspire to go to a socialist heaven but are totally against here?
You don't really have a grasp on what Christians believe. This is the problem.
 Quoting: Candle_In_the_Wind


there are no tiers in heaven.
no 1st Class and 3rd Class.
everyone is equal.
perfect socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72241656


That's not true. Its not broken up into Classes. It is broken up into Spirituality levels. Yes, everyone can go and visit higher and lower realms of Heaven, but eventually you have to go back to your level....





GLP