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RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 05/22/2016 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun is WAY north for May, it ALWAYS reached that northern position in early August, here. Quoting: M*walk I get it: You live in a parallel universe where the summer solstice of your Earth is in early August. In this universe the summer solstice of Earth is on June 20 or 21. . Glad you brought that up. On the North American continent, the Tropic of Cancer (the Farthest north the sun appears directly overhead) is S of Florida. AT NO place in the US, should the sun be directly Above you, or to the North of you. It must always be south of you and it must set South West of you, to some degree. Never to the north of a line drawn to True East-West.....Unless shit is fucked up. Last Edited by Bennder on 05/22/2016 11:44 PM I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71231295 United States 05/22/2016 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My flat is north facing. I can currently see it shining. I have never seen it set like this before. It is to my left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67214513 You do realize that tards like you bring this up EVERY year as we approach June and then the same thing but in reverse when we approach December? I'll let you try to figure out why that is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68573137 United States 05/23/2016 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey fucktards... google "Stellerium" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71922972 download it. put in your approx location and time. check where the sun comes up on there, fuck.. get a compass if you wanna get fancy. if reality agrees with the calculations in the software then just go back to sleep and try not to think of how gullible and simple minded you are. thanks. You don't have to shill the thread for further validation. plus, I don't need a computer, my eyes work fine. your eyes might be fine but your brain is fucked... the software will prove your wrong, if you dont want to help yourself then you will just remain a dumbass. Help myself? I thought it was your job to learn me up? Look, you have to face the truth about yourself, and your choices, before it's too late. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68573137 United States 05/23/2016 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do ancient monuments such as Stonehenge continue to align correctly with the position of the sun at Solstice, year after year after year? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1080749 (deleted shill insult) Perhaps, the alignments that are occurring now, and the relatively recent past are ones that the megalithic monuments were created for? Newgrange, in Ireland, has more than one 'roofbox' - which is the opening to the outside where the sun to enters close to sunrise at the start of the winter solstice... The additional roofboxes may not be known to the public, so, you can't quote me on that one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom 05/23/2016 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra I get it: You live in a parallel universe where the summer solstice of your Earth is in early August. In this universe the summer solstice of Earth is on June 20 or 21. . Its not even June yet retard, crawl back under the toilet where you belong. And your point is? Thinking that the sun has its most northern point in early August, or thinking that the sun sets at the same point on May 22nd and in early August is .... just stupid and uneducated and shows a severe lack of common knowledge. Is this the result of home schooling? . Eat me, you're just another condescending prick with no real proof of your bullshit debunk. You don't live here, so you have no clue. You just throw some general bullshit and insults out there to TRY to make yourself look educated, Are you the product of INBREEDING, fuckin loon. So most people know the Sun sets furthest north at the summer solstice, that's June 20th this year and today we are only 28 days to the solstice. August the 1st is 42 days after the solstice so the sun will be setting further south throughout August than is does today. In fact after the Easter equinox, for the northern hemisphere, the Sun always sets north of the west cardinal point until the autumn equinox. This work the same in California as it does in Germany. If it didn't, someone would complain about this, [link to www.timeanddate.com] Talking about California, I swear to you GLP, California has THEE lowest IQ voters in the nation, damn retards. Wait, don't want to insult the mentally challenged. Quoting: M*walk You live in California, don't you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72255222 Australia 05/23/2016 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe early onset Alzheimer's? Sunset at 310 degrees today. [link to www.timeanddate.com] Whoops. I could be wrong but: shouldn't this angle be at a maximum of 270 + 23.5 = 293.5 degrees North West on June 22nd? And < 293 degrees now, in May? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72218131 United Kingdom 05/23/2016 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe early onset Alzheimer's? Sunset at 310 degrees today. [link to www.timeanddate.com] Whoops. I could be wrong but: shouldn't this angle be at a maximum of 270 + 23.5 = 293.5 degrees North West on June 22nd? And < 293 degrees now, in May? The generalised sunset equation is cos(s)=-tan(L)*tan(d) where s is the azimuth of sunset measured from your local solar noon, L is your latitude and d is declination of the Sun. A more accurate version again is s=arccos((sin(-a)-(sin(L)*sin(d)))/(cos(L)*(cos(d))) Where a is a factor accounting for the refraction of the atmosphere and the measurement of the upper limb of the Sun touching the horizon, roughly 2 degrees altogether. Using this and a table of declination [link to www.wsanford.com] I come about 3 degrees shy of what time and date says my sunset azimuth should be. I guess they have a more sophisticated model. |
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Mr Tibbs User ID: 69407702 Australia 05/23/2016 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Careful, don't write anything about what you have noticed different about the sun and it's different position because you will get grilled that it can't be so, no matter how long you may have lived or observed the sun in a place. I posted on a thread a week or so back on how I notice the sun streaming through my kitchen window, which has never happened in all the years I have lived here but was told basically I was not seeing what I know to be what is happening. Anyway my thoughts are it's not the sun that has moved, nor the earth, which I believed did happen but now my thoughts are maybe the sun has gotten bigger, perhaps it rises where it always has but the light now streches further. So in my case the sunlight now streams in my kitchen window just after sunrise because the light coming from the sun is bigger? Because once the sun never came through this window at anytime of the day, anyway just my thought They call me Mr Tibbs! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72245590 Portugal 05/23/2016 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do ancient monuments such as Stonehenge continue to align correctly with the position of the sun at Solstice, year after year after year? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1080749 You idiots need to seriously do humanity a favor and never, ever breed. Stonehenge was rebuilt in the 50s. Even so, the Sun continues to align. Nothing strange to see there. Move on. |
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Hydra User ID: 72259542 Germany 05/23/2016 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra I get it: You live in a parallel universe where the summer solstice of your Earth is in early August. In this universe the summer solstice of Earth is on June 20 or 21. Its not even June yet retard, crawl back under the toilet where you belong. And your point is? Thinking that the sun has its most northern point in early August, or thinking that the sun sets at the same point on May 22nd and in early August is .... just stupid and uneducated and shows a severe lack of common knowledge. Is this the result of home schooling? Eat me, you're just another condescending prick with no real proof of your bullshit debunk. Real proof: Mercury transit May 9, 2016 Could not have happened as calculated decades ago if the sun would set to far north. :metransit1: Thus you think that a latitude of 40° or 50° North in Europe is different from a latitude of 40° or 50° North in the USA? Says the poster that throws out insults with every post. Btw.: Stating facts are not insults - and the fact is: you are uneducated and have a severe lack of common knowledge. In contrast to you I am. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 72259542 Germany 05/23/2016 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun is WAY north for May, it ALWAYS reached that northern position in early August, here. Quoting: M*walk I get it: You live in a parallel universe where the summer solstice of your Earth is in early August. In this universe the summer solstice of Earth is on June 20 or 21. Glad you brought that up. On the North American continent, the Tropic of Cancer (the Farthest north the sun appears directly overhead) is S of Florida. AT NO place in the US, should the sun be directly Above you ... Is it? At the most southern tip of the USA (Key West, Florida) the sun sets right now at 293° (from west it's 23° to the north). On June 20th it will set at 296.5°. ... or to the North of you. It must always be south of you and it must set South West of you, to some degree. Never to the north of a line drawn to True East-West.....Unless shit is fucked up. Quoting: RodeHard Putawaywet That's the shit the Nibiru-tards come up with when they claim that the earth axis has shifted. Even at the Tropic of Cancer the sun is supposed to set in the WNW (296°) on June 20th. The further north you go, the further the sun sets to the north: Los Angeles 299°, Washington DC 301.5°, Seattle 306.5°, Anchorage 327°. Move further north to the Norton Sound, Alaska. There it sets at 341° and at the Bering Strait it's 355°, just 5° from North. And at the Arctic Circle it sets and rises exactly in the north - you ever heard of the Midnight Sun? How can the Midnight Sun happen if the sun is not supposed to set in the north in certain parts of the world? You see the pattern? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 72259542 Germany 05/23/2016 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoops. I could be wrong but: shouldn't this angle be at a maximum of 270 + 23.5 = 293.5 degrees North West on June 22nd? And < 293 degrees now, in May? The generalised sunset equation is cos(s)=-tan(L)*tan(d) where s is the azimuth of sunset measured from your local solar noon, L is your latitude and d is declination of the Sun. A more accurate version again is s=arccos((sin(-a)-(sin(L)*sin(d)))/(cos(L)*(cos(d))) Where a is a factor accounting for the refraction of the atmosphere and the measurement of the upper limb of the Sun touching the horizon, roughly 2 degrees altogether. Using this and a table of declination [link to www.wsanford.com] I come about 3 degrees shy of what time and date says my sunset azimuth should be. I guess they have a more sophisticated model. Magnetic deviation in the UK is 2° to 4° west depending on your location. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72255222 Australia 05/23/2016 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72218131 Whoops. I could be wrong but: shouldn't this angle be at a maximum of 270 + 23.5 = 293.5 degrees North West on June 22nd? And < 293 degrees now, in May? The generalised sunset equation is cos(s)=-tan(L)*tan(d) where s is the azimuth of sunset measured from your local solar noon, L is your latitude and d is declination of the Sun. A more accurate version again is s=arccos((sin(-a)-(sin(L)*sin(d)))/(cos(L)*(cos(d))) Where a is a factor accounting for the refraction of the atmosphere and the measurement of the upper limb of the Sun touching the horizon, roughly 2 degrees altogether. Using this and a table of declination [link to www.wsanford.com] I come about 3 degrees shy of what time and date says my sunset azimuth should be. I guess they have a more sophisticated model. At some latitutes (like in Tromso, Norway now) never sets for some time. |
Hydra User ID: 72259542 Germany 05/23/2016 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, the sun is a spotlight with a Yin-Yang shaped aperture. It's always funny to see the Flatties struggle to square their fnat earf with observations. And if they fail to do so, they just deny it: flights don't exist, satellites don't exist, planets don't exist ... Yep, tens of thousands of people made an arrangement on May 9 to draw a little black dot on pictures of the sun. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |