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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72253302 Canada 05/27/2016 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent, Quoting: Face Palmer said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz. I have almost no doubt about it. [link to www.cosmosup.com] Your first mistake was coming to a cesspool of website that supports TRUMP to share this. I'm not sure you could prove there is intelligent life on GLP! However... good job! Science! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64246843 United States 05/27/2016 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent, Quoting: Face Palmer said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz. I have almost no doubt about it. [link to www.cosmosup.com] Your first mistake was coming to a cesspool of website that supports TRUMP to share this. I'm not sure you could prove there is intelligent life on GLP! However... good job! Science! LOL.... This was just damn funny: "I'm not sure you could prove there is intelligent life on GLP! " |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72267135 Sweden 05/27/2016 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it When a scientist says he "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it" it means that he actually has a lot of doubt about it but it is the only interpretation he has at the moment, and he cannot come up with any other explanation. However he knows there is doubt. One never use this type of wording in an interpretation that one is truly convinced about. In that case you let the your work speak for itself. "I am convinced" is an internal joke in the scientific community. It is something you say at presentations as a comic relief. It is a "wink - wink" or ;) In a nutshell it is scientific satire. |
dukusprime User ID: 72043312 United States 05/27/2016 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it and its relatively close to us, just in our cosmic neighborhood — meet Gliese 581d. Quoting: Face Palmer Gliese 581 is a red dwarf star located about 20 light-years away from Earth in the constellation Libra — One light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km); Out of the billions of stars in the sky, Gliese 581 is the 89th closest known star to the Sun. In 2005, astronomers found six exoplanets orbiting their star in nearly circular paths and they were named as Gliese b, c, d, f and g; they used the indirect method to found these planets, which mean that the planets cannot be viewed with a telescope; Astronomers used radial velocity data on the star. This method looks at a star’s tiny movements due to the gravitational tug from orbiting bodies. The subtle tugs let researchers estimate the planet’s mass and how long it takes to circle its star. It was calculated that Gliese 581d is in the perfect not-too-hot not-too-cold Goldilocks zone, just the ideal distance away from the start to be able to support life; in fact, some astronomers are 100% certain that they do: Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent, said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz. I have almost no doubt about it. [link to www.cosmosup.com] They say the temperature on Gliese 581d is unknown. But most red dwarfs range in the 3000-5000f range, and it does put off a glow in the pictures. Something just don't deem right. dukusprime |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72283400 Belgium 05/27/2016 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it When a scientist says he "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it" it means that he actually has a lot of doubt about it but it is the only interpretation he has at the moment, and he cannot come up with any other explanation. However he knows there is doubt. One never use this type of wording in an interpretation that one is truly convinced about. In that case you let the your work speak for itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135 "I am convinced" is an internal joke in the scientific community. It is something you say at presentations as a comic relief. It is a "wink - wink" or ;) In a nutshell it is scientific satire. the media is saying "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72267135 Sweden 05/27/2016 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it When a scientist says he "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it" it means that he actually has a lot of doubt about it but it is the only interpretation he has at the moment, and he cannot come up with any other explanation. However he knows there is doubt. One never use this type of wording in an interpretation that one is truly convinced about. In that case you let the your work speak for itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135 "I am convinced" is an internal joke in the scientific community. It is something you say at presentations as a comic relief. It is a "wink - wink" or ;) In a nutshell it is scientific satire. the media is saying "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it". What the media is saying is irrelevant. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71611133 United States 05/27/2016 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it Total BS. Even on a planet such as earth, the likelihood of life forming is even beyond astronomically remote. Even on earth, we are told it happened once, and only once - and everything evolved from that singular fluke occurrence. In fact, scientists are starting to come to the realization that life is a rare event. Read the whole, short article for a full understanding. [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com] When I was a student in the 1960s almost all scientists believed we are alone in the universe. The search for intelligent life beyond Earth was ridiculed; one might as well have professed an interest in looking for fairies. The focus of skepticism concerned the origin of life, which was widely assumed to have been a chemical fluke of such incredibly low probability it would never have happened twice. “The origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle,” was the way Francis Crick described it, “so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.” Jacques Monod concurred; in his 1976 book Chance and Necessity he wrote, “Man knows at last that he is alone in the indifferent immensity of the universe, whence which he has emerged by chance.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72283400 Belgium 05/27/2016 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it When a scientist says he "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it" it means that he actually has a lot of doubt about it but it is the only interpretation he has at the moment, and he cannot come up with any other explanation. However he knows there is doubt. One never use this type of wording in an interpretation that one is truly convinced about. In that case you let the your work speak for itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72267135 "I am convinced" is an internal joke in the scientific community. It is something you say at presentations as a comic relief. It is a "wink - wink" or ;) In a nutshell it is scientific satire. the media is saying "is convinced" or "I have little doubt about it". What the media is saying is irrelevant. then why do you quote them as if thats what the scientists have said? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71611133 United States 05/27/2016 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it If this statement were true: Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent Then wouldn't we see an almost endless 'starting point' of life here on earth where life DOES exist - instead of the singular occurrence that scientists tell us occurred and everything evolved from that? Wouldn't 'life' to this day be emerging still? This '100%' claim is just pure and utter non-scientific hopefulness from a 'scientist' who is throwing away scientific evidence and proper skepticism in favor of his own desires to receive fame or funding. This makes science look silly. I chose it for a career - then abandoned it after 10 years for something I really enjoy - but this is just pure hackery. Dude should be fired for such unscientific stupidity. |
Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 72283302 Germany 05/27/2016 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72283400 Belgium 05/27/2016 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? What is advanced? We can't even sent humans to our nearest planet. And even if we found life as "advanced" as ours lightyears away then we still won't be able to communicate with them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71611133 United States 05/27/2016 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? ...and they all allegedly evolved from ONE SINGULAR occurrence - if there was such an 'ubiquity and propensity for life' wouldn't we see MULTIPLE origins of life here on earth? Of course we would. We don't. |
Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 72283302 Germany 05/27/2016 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? What is advanced? We can't even sent humans to our nearest planet. And even if we found life as "advanced" as ours lightyears away then we still won't be able to communicate with them. Yeah this is another problem with communication most people cant wrap their brains around. If we send them a question like "Are you there?" it will take at least 40 years to receive an answer. And the civilization would have to be inteligent enough to decipher our message, besides having the technical skills to receive and answer the message, interest implied in the first place. (Thats why alientards just assume they are visiting us with much more advanced tech.) So the civilization should have to be advanced enough to tell us how to build these UFO things so we can buzz over there. Until that happens, most people will never receive an answer from any alien race in their lifetime. "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71611133 United States 05/27/2016 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? What is advanced? We can't even sent humans to our nearest planet. And even if we found life as "advanced" as ours lightyears away then we still won't be able to communicate with them. 'Advanced' is irrelevant. The possibility of even basic, single celled life forming from non-life is so remotely small that it happened only once on earth - according to science. Even if you believe in evolution, you have to realize the incredible rarity for even that first building block of life to occur. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71611133 United States 05/27/2016 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? What is advanced? We can't even sent humans to our nearest planet. And even if we found life as "advanced" as ours lightyears away then we still won't be able to communicate with them. Yeah this is another problem with communication most people cant wrap their brains around. If we send them a question like "Are you there?" it will take at least 40 years to receive an answer. And the civilization would have to be inteligent enough to decipher our message, besides having the technical skills to receive and answer the message, interest implied in the first place. (Thats why alientards just assume they are visiting us with much more advanced tech.) So the civilization should have to be advanced enough to tell us how to build these UFO things so we can buzz over there. Until that happens, most people will never receive an answer from any alien race in their lifetime. Wouldn't communication be an evolutionary beneficial trait - and wouldn't that trait then be passed down thru 'evolutionary processes'? Evolution dictates that a species with communication skills would evolve - because beneficial. |
Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 72283302 Germany 05/27/2016 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it True :) "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 72283302 Germany 05/27/2016 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NASA astronomers said they’ve discovered a planet that they believe has a 100% chance of having life on it I think all these alien discussions have a major problem. Quoting: Face Palmer And that is the definition of life in these terms. Earth is full of life in trillions of different forms, yet we are not able to communicate with any of them. (I dont think telling a dog to sit is a proper form of communication for this) SO even if we find some weird bugs on some planet, what should we do then? Send some starship troopers? The only alien life of serious interest would be a advanced civilization like ours. Everything else would be a waste of time right? What is advanced? We can't even sent humans to our nearest planet. And even if we found life as "advanced" as ours lightyears away then we still won't be able to communicate with them. Yeah this is another problem with communication most people cant wrap their brains around. If we send them a question like "Are you there?" it will take at least 40 years to receive an answer. And the civilization would have to be inteligent enough to decipher our message, besides having the technical skills to receive and answer the message, interest implied in the first place. (Thats why alientards just assume they are visiting us with much more advanced tech.) So the civilization should have to be advanced enough to tell us how to build these UFO things so we can buzz over there. Until that happens, most people will never receive an answer from any alien race in their lifetime. Wouldn't communication be an evolutionary beneficial trait - and wouldn't that trait then be passed down thru 'evolutionary processes'? Evolution dictates that a species with communication skills would evolve - because beneficial. Most likely beneficial if I can warn you not to eat that toxic mushroom or be careful not to fall off that cliff lol. Its necessary to create and understand tech too. E.g. blueprints "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
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