Eating meat has violence against innocent animals at its core

I agree that our teeth do seem to be losing strength. I tend to attribute it to an overuse of fluoride to the point where it's making our teeth more HARD rather than STRONG.

And harder materials that lack strength tend to become brittle.

I shall..

The right way is respectful to the prey's life. The animal is allowed to live a life with as much freedom as possible and hunted fairly when the hunter is hungry. This could either be a clean slaughter or a successful hunt.

Nature guides us in such decisions.

Milk can also be taken in a humane way. We have lived with all kinds of livestock that were treated fairly for a very long time.


However, most of the animal products available to us today are not clean. You should be commended for not eating them until another path can be taken. Obviously, it is very honorable.

Personal experience is non scientific? Similar physiological traits are non scientific?
You have been fed bad science from people that profit from followers of said science. That you can make a tool shows some skill, that it is used to go against our natural biology is foolish to say the least. It is not a matter of who is more intelligent, intelligence is something that is used, or misused. And the results are everywhere, for better and worse.
We have murdered each other from day one, is that natural?
I want to become disconnected from this reality, it is has been made intolerable by humans. That people have been desensitized, are too cowardly to speak against cruelty, and love the debased state is no excuse to make corpse eating an evolutionary godsend.
What nutrients are in meat that are not more biologically available in fruit and veg? Cooking also denatures vitamins and minerals. Who are you trying to kid? You may very well be a shill for industry, arguing for the sake of arguing, like debaters taught at school, to protect financial interests.

This. So much this.

I love meat, but I also try and ensure I buy free range and from cruelty free farms.

A happy cow is a tasty cow.

also a plant is a living being

A plant is biologically alive, but not sentient.

Nope.


From such a small testing group? Nope.


Nope. In fact I see science as a tool of trial and error that humanity uses to understand the workings of the universe. Meaning... Surprise! Not all scientific "laws" are set in stone.


Tell that to the chimps that use tools and a regular basis.


It really is a matter of intelligence. A lack of animal proteins WILL stunt the growth of your brain and by connection, your mind.


Ask the ENTIRE animal kingdom that question.


And you still don't think your mental problems stems from the lack of a proper diet? You will become depressed if you aren't eating right.


Vitamin B12.


If you're losing THAT much vitamin and minerals through cooking, then you're simply a terrible cook.


I'd honestly like to ask you the same question. Why do you persist on attacking meat-eaters after being bombarded with evidence that your lifestyle is unhealthy?


I may have to start charging you for tutoring at this point kiddo.

This is true about hunters for NATURAL hunters, not cultural. Nature does guide us, with our senses. And natural equipment. We posses no instinctive know how on fire making. It is a cultural practice.

As for milk, you truly want me to believe that we are meant to drink milk after we are weaned? A mother produces it when pregnant for her child. Children have diminishing ability to break down milk sugars after that age, and "science" calls it lactose intolerance. It is cruel to break the mother child bond, it is theft to take what is not yours and millions suffer from the effects of dairy "foods".

Calling a dishonourable practice honourable is justification via obfuscation, as mentioned earlier. Many a crazy mentality has done violence and cruelty and justified it with words.
There is as much science saying that humans were primarily fruit nut leaf and seed eaters as there is saying we survived on corpses.
What you tend to do is what you will chose when "facts" are tossed around.

The problem is, that we as humans, believe the writings and sayings of other humans, rather than using our own intelligence. If we but look and see without those with interests conflicting our senses ... the world would be unlike it is.

For thousands of years milk was taken in a humane way.
By human hands.

Only recently have these machine contraptions shown up.

Elite use order out of chaos over and over.

They break something that was fine, good, working and had of course God's approval --
after breaking it, messing it up, corrupting it -
then they criminalize it, pull it, take it away -
or attempt to.

They are attempting to criminalize meat and milk.
Same with fat, salt, eggs.

Look see what they say not to eat - that is what we should eat.

Eat Meat, real Milk, lots of fat, eggs, salt.





Education? Read about Kellogg and what his goals were with all the stupid cereal he spit out.

A religious agenda to destroy minds, reduce population.



Be fruitful and multiply (says God)

That one makes the elites heads blow up :)

That is like a rapist saying, here, have a pillow, are you comfortable? Then raping them.

"Be fruitful and multiply (says God)"
Fruitful, full of fruit :)

Yet you avoid the schooling I just gave you that made you look like a complete imbecile. Nice one.

Death camps for animals!

Personal experience is non scientific?
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Nope.

Who then does the science?


Similar physiological traits are non scientific?
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From such a small testing group? Nope.

What small testing group? The entirety of animals of the earth have been dissected and investigated.


You have been fed bad science from people that profit from followers of said science.
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Nope. In fact I see science as a tool of trial and error that humanity uses to understand the workings of the universe. Meaning... Surprise! Not all scientific "laws" are set in stone.

How you see it makes it real? Humanity has never been known to be mistaken ... contrary to fact.

That you can make a tool shows some skill, that it is used to go against our natural biology is foolish to say the least.
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Tell that to the chimps that use tools and a regular basis.

I shall, when they drive past me in a car. Differing levels of ability would you not agree?


It really is a matter of intelligence. A lack of animal proteins WILL stunt the growth of your brain and by connection, your mind.

Citations please, I asked earlier to show what nutrients are in meat that are not more biologically available in fruit and veg, that need not be cooked and transformed by the catalyst of fire.

We are supposedly smarter, a higher being, than the animals [though it rarely shows]

I want to become disconnected from this reality, it is has been made intolerable by humans. That people have been desensitized, are too cowardly to speak against cruelty, and love the debased state is no excuse to make corpse eating an evolutionary godsend.
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And you still don't think your mental problems stems from the lack of a proper diet? You will become depressed if you aren't eating right.

if you could read in a holistic manner, and not fragmented, you would have seen that Ii eat meat at present .. first post .. so any mental illness from diet may be shared with thee also.

What nutrients are in meat that are not more biologically available in fruit and veg?
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Vitamin B12.

B12 is produced in a clean gut. Intrinsic factor. It is a bacteria, with populations rising and falling like yeast controlling blood sugars. That we can absorb poisons from feces held too long, but not B12, is against the intelligence THE BODY uses. The WHO will not reply to emails about how vit B12 testing is done, or the diets of those tested. Night shift workers use vit B12 injections more than vegans and most vegans needing injections may be cooked food eaters and it may be a problem with utilization, not availability.

Cooking also denatures vitamins and minerals.
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If you're losing THAT much vitamin and minerals through cooking, then you're simply a terrible cook.

Humans are a hardy creature. We can survive on donuts and french fries. For years. Do not confuse the power and vitality of youth with proper foods. Raw is obviously better, ask any zoologist [legalized poacher]


Who are you trying to kid? You may very well be a shill for industry, arguing for the sake of arguing, like debaters taught at school, to protect financial interests.
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I'd honestly like to ask you the same question. Why do you persist on attacking meat-eaters after being bombarded with evidence that your lifestyle is unhealthy?


I may have to start charging you for tutoring at this point kiddo.

I have been presented with no scientific facts, only propaganda. You must justify your diet, because it involves cruelty, more systemic energy to digest, uses more resources and land, and being that this is the diet of the masses, the explanation why hospitals are full and disorders of body mind and emotions are prevalent.

It would show a more organized mind if you were more to the point and not so long winded, that was indeed tiring to respond to.

Yes grains are the food of pigeons etc. That they were found in Egypt in large amounts led to the belief they were a common food, but they were a famine food. Grains are acidic and hard to digest, best eaten, if one must, in small amounts in winter, when the temperature is alkaline.
Bread sticks to your teeth and is in far contrast to the sprouted and sun dried flat breads of the ancients.

IKR

Aye, they are, the slaughterhouses

My best friend is a Dairy Farmer. I help out on his very small operation. 60 head or so including calves and dry cows, etc. We split a steer each year. ONE animal to feed two families for a year. We work with these critters trying to keep 'em going strong. There are a million ways to loose 'em. The steer (or freemartin this year) that we slaughter is dispatched by one shot(.22 he NEVER misses)and to ensure stress hormone free meat he/she/it never knows what's coming. You can tell that by the way it flops around as it bleeds out;very little.

BTW a cow is the most dangerous animal on a Dairy Farm. A bull has all the press, but a cow will kill you and keep stomping untill your corpse is seriously tenderized. If she thinks you are threatening her calf. And it doesn't take much, just a strange noise will do it.

I love hamburger, but hate the thought of mystery meat patties, each containing bits from hundreds of animals. Each bite of which has the potential of including more animal deaths than many lifetimes of eating half a steer per year.

If ya wanna gig such as this all ya have to do is volunteer to put up hay. Back in the day, we used to get milk straight from the bulk tank. That treat is no more, but it was what got me hooked. Fresh cold milk from the tank is so much different than commercial milk product it hardly seems to come from the same origin. Like a superfood.

What about the violence of animals to other animals?
What about the violence to plants?

Yeah ever had a tree throw a stick at you?

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Ah so thoughtlessly killing a living creature in a violent manner for doing what it does to sustain it's life is ok but killing one to sustain your own isn't. Gotcha ;)

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All life is sacred

Do not kill anything (that includes plants of course)

Die from starvation (by your own inaction)

Congratulations you just killed yourself and broke your first rule.

Azzfuking and control over humans is the goal...pretending 2 care about animals is the mask they wear.

Violence is your friend...azsfukng folks iz da enemys.

Kill 4 for food & kill to protect your azz from being fukd.

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Last Edited by #521 on 05/27/2016 10:37 AM

Animals kill and eat each other. Are they degenerate? No, they are living life. All animals are food for other animals, including human animals.

Vegetarians excuse themselves from that scenario but they don't stop to think that the vegetables, herbs, and what not that they eat are also killed. They were once living things.

Earth is a cycle of living and dying for all beings. Since all living beings are required to eat, they must eat each other to stay alive or what else can they eat?

What if it's in animal and non-animal consciousness that they are born to be food for others, that they may actually be living a higher life to sustain others?

Eating vegetables and eggs is the same.

I love eating double cheese burgers and beef fajitas when I'm on break from clubbing baby seals.

Okay, if we are not to eat animals or plants, how are we to survive? Answer that.