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If Jesus spoke from heaven for the globe to hear saying.."I am God's Son....not God"...then would people believe?

 
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The scriptures (the true one) declare Jesus' Godhead. He is the creator of all and the one who holds creation together.
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Which true scripture says that?
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and would that truth make the trinity thumpers soil themselves as they deserve?
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Hopefully it would make them see the true identity of the Christ and his Heavenly Father
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
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It's coming....project Bluebeam.
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Re: If Jesus spoke from heaven for the globe to hear saying.."I am God's Son....not God"...then would people believe?
god is not human ... even though he is humanOID he is not a physical being - nor is the frequency of this solar system compatiable to his nature ... therefore he could NOT be the "father" of Jesus -

the bible, especially the New Testament (but not the Tora/first five books) was heavily edited by the Romans - who held the belief that "gods" walked among us - and they can, briefly exist here, but they can not LIVE here (without becoming physical) nor can they interbreed with humans - why would they - other than for lust - because they are immortal.


there are no "hybrids", but there ARE plenty of individuals who have been genetically modified 0F THEIR OWN FREE WILL - to serve "the gods" agenda


but even more basic - what "loving father" would pit his children against each other - to the death? ... or would desert his beloved dying son on the cross ? wake up, god is neither our father / creator nor does he have any of our "best interest" in mind - he is a psychopathic ET - serving himself, by deception - getting us to do all his dirty work for him, so he can't be held accountable for our inhumanity towards our fellow man
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Or is it not rather Satan who serves himself, by deception, getting humans to do all HIS dirty work for him, so he feels no accountability for his influence over the inhumanity shown towards each other?
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It is quiet simple really Yeshua is the avatar of the Father. The Father is God, if so that would make Yeshua the Word of God, which he is. Anyone who has seen Yeshua has seen God(The Father) So to answer the question by the OP Yeshua has already answered your question. If you see him you see the Father. Or to make it a bit closer to what Yashua actually said to Phillip.. Maybe he would say something like.. Read the scriptures and see my words. He could not directly say that he is God when he was flesh for if he did that would make God flesh. God is spirit, he told us perfectly who he is. The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. All things ever created (everything 100%)were created through the Word of God. In other words, Yeshua.
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Sorry, but your blue beam dream is not coming true.
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Lets just pretend, for the sake of imagination that it is....
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god is not human ... even though he is humanOID he is not a physical being - nor is the frequency of this solar system compatiable to his nature ... therefore he could NOT be the "father" of Jesus -

the bible, especially the New Testament (but not the Tora/first five books) was heavily edited by the Romans - who held the belief that "gods" walked among us - and they can, briefly exist here, but they can not LIVE here (without becoming physical) nor can they interbreed with humans - why would they - other than for lust - because they are immortal.


there are no "hybrids", but there ARE plenty of individuals who have been genetically modified 0F THEIR OWN FREE WILL - to serve "the gods" agenda


but even more basic - what "loving father" would pit his children against each other - to the death? ... or would desert his beloved dying son on the cross ? wake up, god is neither our father / creator nor does he have any of our "best interest" in mind - he is a psychopathic ET - serving himself, by deception - getting us to do all his dirty work for him, so he can't be held accountable for our inhumanity towards our fellow man
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Why imagine things that will never, ever happen?
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I guess you "witnesses" read a very different Bible, because Heb. 1:8 has God speaking to the Son and saying "your' throne oh God is forever...."., and in John 1 He is the Logos/Word and creative force of all things created. When you bow before Him I believe you will acknowledge He is very God.
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WHEN He spoke He said "I and the Father are one"

In Acts He ascended to heaven in Zechariah He descends back again as Jehovah. Physically. Soon.
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
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Jesus is God in human form
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
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hf hf hf

If Jesus was God himself...there wouldn't be the Lord's Prayer.

Jesus wouldn't have prayed in the garden before they took Him away.

And on and on and on

goodnews goodnews goodnews
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dasbier
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The Bible tells you that the mystery of Godliness is to know that God was manifest in the flesh.
Adam is the son of God. Luke 3:38.
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


There are no personal pronouns in the Hebrew language, My is not there. The word, Son, capitalized means the embodiment of God. Check a lexicon there are plenty online.
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Father has a Grandson too.
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Happy indeed.

For the Father is the Spirit within All, whereas the Son is the individual manifestation of that spirit.

Who do you say that I am?
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The Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

Growl...

;)
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Shaking my head...

You just can't resist, can ya.

big_smile

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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
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You people are mind controlled and DUMB. Stop it now please and think outside that religious box.

Jesus is returned and has been speaking thru books and other sources since 1954. Grow up
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and YOU celestial maiden are also God's son. Human beings are sons of god and know it not. GROW I have posted this how often in your threads and you keep up with this irreverent material that has nothing of God or Jesus in it.

when will you comprehend.. HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU... its IN THE BIBLE.
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Jesus is returned and has been speaking thru books and other sources since 1954. Grow up
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false.
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and YOU celestial maiden are also God's son. Human beings are sons of god and know it not. GROW I have posted this how often in your threads and you keep up with this irreverent material that has nothing of God or Jesus in it.

when will you comprehend.. HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU... its IN THE BIBLE.
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we are all GOD's children, but Jesus is the only begotten son.

you use that verse out of place.
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I find it very strange that Jehovahs witnesses cannot see who Jesus (Yeshua) really is. He said in the Bible that if you have seen me then you have ssen the Father. The Father is God. God created all things, but the bible also tells us that All things were created through Yeshua, now who does that make Yeshua out to be? That is why it is said the Word was made flesh. All the fullness of God dwelt in him. Who is he??? If you are a Jehovahs Witness then you need to do some more research.
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Jesus is not telling a lie... He is God in human flesh.
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


You people are mind controlled and DUMB. Stop it now please and think outside that religious box.

Jesus is returned and has been speaking thru books and other sources since 1954. Grow up
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Yeah cm think for yourself just once. Is that all you can do is echo the Watchtower which was invented by CT Russel who wore a paper mache pyramid birthday hat because he was a cement mason?
huffy
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and YOU celestial maiden are also God's son. Human beings are sons of god and know it not. GROW I have posted this how often in your threads and you keep up with this irreverent material that has nothing of God or Jesus in it.

when will you comprehend.. HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU... its IN THE BIBLE.
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Yes and yet have you to share where exactly in the Bible it says Heaven is within you
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I find it very strange that Jehovahs witnesses cannot see who Jesus (Yeshua) really is. He said in the Bible that if you have seen me then you have ssen the Father. The Father is God. God created all things, but the bible also tells us that All things were created through Yeshua, now who does that make Yeshua out to be? That is why it is said the Word was made flesh. All the fullness of God dwelt in him. Who is he??? If you are a Jehovahs Witness then you need to do some more research.
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That is because Christ so perfectly reflected God's personality, that seeing him was "seeing" his Father...but he never said he WAS the Father...quite the contrary

"He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him."- Romans 1:13-17

Notice several things in that verse, God refers to the "Son of his love'

He is the "image of God", not God himself

He is the "First born of all CREATION" - meaning Christ was created, he had a beginning, whereas God had no beginning 
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I find it very strange that Jehovahs witnesses cannot see who Jesus (Yeshua) really is. He said in the Bible that if you have seen me then you have ssen the Father. The Father is God. God created all things, but the bible also tells us that All things were created through Yeshua, now who does that make Yeshua out to be? That is why it is said the Word was made flesh. All the fullness of God dwelt in him. Who is he??? If you are a Jehovahs Witness then you need to do some more research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72286305


That is because Christ so perfectly reflected God's personality, that seeing him was "seeing" his Father...but he never said he WAS the Father...quite the contrary

"He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him."- Romans 1:13-17

Notice several things in that verse, God refers to the "Son of his love'

He is the "image of God", not God himself

He is the "First born of all CREATION" - meaning Christ was created, he had a beginning, whereas God had no beginning 
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


hf hf hf

10 Reasons why Jesus is not God!

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IF Jesus was God he would NOT pray to himself tantrum

4. John 17 (Jesus & the Last Supper)

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Shaking my head...

You just can't resist, can ya.

big_smile

eyebat
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I luv it when you join me in threads.

MWAH!
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-17
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Happy indeed.

For the Father is the Spirit within All, whereas the Son is the individual manifestation of that spirit.

Who do you say that I am?
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As for the rest of you, better check yourself on the simplicity of my statement.


By which Spirit do you Judge?
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I don't pray.





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