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The only reason any of you are Christians is because the Roman Empire wanted you to be

 
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Nothing in the Old Testament is debunked by the New, if you understand that God is revealing Himself to us, bit by bit, over time.
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so... are you asking me to be nice and accept the NT because the NT is so nice and kindhearted that it doesn't debunk the OT?

the NT is stupid and debunked the by the OT.

it blinds you to G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Umm, no.
I'm merely appealing to your assumed faculty of reason.
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by changing what I say?

like the NT does to the OT...Christians be Christians.
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You will find out when you die and stand before Jesus
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its a good thing that id be dead then because you wouldn't be able to see the look on my face when I realize how wrong I was
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
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first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Seems to me the same could be said of the Rabbis.
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Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481



Jesu is God in human form
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:0

keep those Christian doctrines coming.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Titus 3:10-11

10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.
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Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481



Jesu is God in human form
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:0

keep those Christian doctrines coming.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Titus 3:10-11

10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.
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its a good thing that id be dead then because you wouldn't be able to see the look on my face when I realize how wrong I was
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Seems to me the same could be said of the Rabbis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12519537


leaving skid marks?
pointing fingers?
cant defend your own ground?

rabbis are teachers, not mediators definitely not divine.

are you conceding that jesus is not a mediator nor divine?
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first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481



Jesu is God in human form
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:0

keep those Christian doctrines coming.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Titus 3:10-11

10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


OMG lol you are litteraly quoting the supposed words of a ROMAN EMPEROR in a thread about how chrisitians are fooled by roman emperors while maintaining the view that Christians are not fooled by the emperors.

LOL this is too funny.
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Jesu is God in human form
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:0

keep those Christian doctrines coming.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Titus 3:10-11

10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


OMG lol you are litteraly quoting the supposed words of a ROMAN EMPEROR in a thread about how chrisitians are fooled by roman emperors while maintaining the view that Christians are not fooled by the emperors.

LOL this is too funny.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Paul wrote the book of Titus

God bless done here
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"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Hosea 11:0

keep those Christian doctrines coming.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Titus 3:10-11

10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


OMG lol you are litteraly quoting the supposed words of a ROMAN EMPEROR in a thread about how chrisitians are fooled by roman emperors while maintaining the view that Christians are not fooled by the emperors.

LOL this is too funny.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Paul wrote the book of Titus

God bless done here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


ok, happy to learn something new.
thank you.

titus flavius and his family wrote the gospels though.

Constantine made it the imperial cult.

all part of the plan.
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Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Seems to me the same could be said of the Rabbis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12519537


leaving skid marks?
pointing fingers?
cant defend your own ground?

rabbis are teachers, not mediators definitely not divine.

are you conceding that jesus is not a mediator nor divine?
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Any translator of the law is a mediator. Any who can put one to death, by mediating persuasion has the authority similar to one divine. We can split hairs and debate how many angels dance on a needle, but it would not end. The final decision would be made by the mediating authority, the chief "teacher" who becomes as the final arbiter of the word of god.
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Nothing in the Old Testament is debunked by the New, if you understand that God is revealing Himself to us, bit by bit, over time.
 Quoting: MrsO


so... are you asking me to be nice and accept the NT because the NT is so nice and kindhearted that it doesn't debunk the OT?

the NT is stupid and debunked the by the OT.

it blinds you to G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Umm, no.
I'm merely appealing to your assumed faculty of reason.
 Quoting: MrsO


by changing what I say?

like the NT does to the OT...Christians be Christians.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


I don't think I've changed what you say?

The prophets didn't magically just stop when the Old Testament was written. God's process of revelation to mankind kept on going, as it is now, we haven't reached anywhere near a good knowledge yet.

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its a good thing that id be dead then because you wouldn't be able to see the look on my face when I realize how wrong I was
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481


Not a I proved you wrong factor it a GOD is the truth and the way

Only way to the father is through the son

God bless you will pray for your soul and all non believer

And followers of Christ I prey in name of Jesus Christ to keep you faith and for the Holy Spirit to increase and the flesh to decrease by he second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72161630


first commandment
I am the Lord thy G-d who has taken you out of Egypt.
you SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods upon my face.

you put jesus mask on G-d's face, graven image idol mediator.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 72292481



Jesu is God in human form
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Jesus is god or the son of god. which is it?
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62 After the patriarchs, God formed Israel as his people by freeing them from slavery in Egypt. He established with them the covenant of Mount Sinai and, through Moses, gave them his law so that they would recognize him and serve him as the one living and true God, the provident Father and just judge, and so that they would look for the promised Saviour.20

63 Israel is the priestly people of God, "called by the name of the LORD", and "the first to hear the word of God",21 The people of "elder brethren" in the faith of Abraham.

64 Through the prophets, God forms his people in the hope of salvation, in the expectation of a new and everlasting Covenant intended for all, to be written on their hearts.22 The prophets proclaim a radical redemption of the People of God, purification from all their infidelities, a salvation which will include all the nations.23 Above all, the poor and humble of the Lord will bear this hope. Such holy women as Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Judith and Esther kept alive the hope of Israel's salvation. the purest figure among them is Mary.24"

[link to www.vatican.va]
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62 After the patriarchs, God formed Israel as his people by freeing them from slavery in Egypt. He established with them the covenant of Mount Sinai and, through Moses, gave them his law so that they would recognize him and serve him as the one living and true God, the provident Father and just judge, and so that they would look for the promised Saviour.20

63 Israel is the priestly people of God, "called by the name of the LORD", and "the first to hear the word of God",21 The people of "elder brethren" in the faith of Abraham.

64 Through the prophets, God forms his people in the hope of salvation, in the expectation of a new and everlasting Covenant intended for all, to be written on their hearts.22 The prophets proclaim a radical redemption of the People of God, purification from all their infidelities, a salvation which will include all the nations.23 Above all, the poor and humble of the Lord will bear this hope. Such holy women as Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Judith and Esther kept alive the hope of Israel's salvation. the purest figure among them is Mary.24"

[link to www.vatican.va]
 Quoting: MrsO


providing evidence from affiliates of christianity in defense is like asking Ted Bundy to act as character witness for Jeffrey Dahmer. Why are you so closed to logic and reason?

einstein-duh11
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62 After the patriarchs, God formed Israel as his people by freeing them from slavery in Egypt. He established with them the covenant of Mount Sinai and, through Moses, gave them his law so that they would recognize him and serve him as the one living and true God, the provident Father and just judge, and so that they would look for the promised Saviour.20

63 Israel is the priestly people of God, "called by the name of the LORD", and "the first to hear the word of God",21 The people of "elder brethren" in the faith of Abraham.

64 Through the prophets, God forms his people in the hope of salvation, in the expectation of a new and everlasting Covenant intended for all, to be written on their hearts.22 The prophets proclaim a radical redemption of the People of God, purification from all their infidelities, a salvation which will include all the nations.23 Above all, the poor and humble of the Lord will bear this hope. Such holy women as Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, Miriam, Deborah, Hannah, Judith and Esther kept alive the hope of Israel's salvation. the purest figure among them is Mary.24"

[link to www.vatican.va]
 Quoting: MrsO


providing evidence from affiliates of christianity in defense is like asking Ted Bundy to act as character witness for Jeffrey Dahmer. Why are you so closed to logic and reason?

einstein-duh11
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It's just to show the process of revelation at work, way back in the Old Testament.





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