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| Patriot User ID: 171426  United States12/19/2006 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 170073 United States12/19/2006 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Zen Master User ID: 170334  United Kingdom12/19/2006 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373 United States12/19/2006 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eric banned me for no other than political reasons. This is not going to happen without recourse. To those of you who will say, “just let it slide” - thats not going to happen. That sounds like a threat. Are you sure that you didn't make comments like this on the other site? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28401 United States12/19/2006 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "... In a thread about 9/11, I was challenged to provide evidence that it was not what they have been told. I started a thread providing all my evidence. It required many posts, as there is much evidence. Eric, the admin/owner of Glocktalk locked the thread without reason or even a post by himself. When I asked why it was locked, all he did was told me to "try to stay closer to reality". ..." Maybe he had a point. Yes/No? Whatever. Seems to me you should take you gripe up with whoever and stop whinging on GLP behind someone's back. |
| unanimous ideas User ID: 121182 United States12/19/2006 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you are still posting on someone ELSES forums, they have the right to think and act however they want. It seems simple enough to be what your solution should be. Start your own website and forums and then nobody can lock your threads or ban you and you can "get the truth out" as you speak. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are still posting on someone ELSES forums, they have the right to think and act however they want. It seems simple enough to be what your solution should be. Quoting: unanimous ideas 121182Start your own website and forums and then nobody can lock your threads or ban you and you can "get the truth out" as you speak. Wrong. This is a public forum. It belongs to all of us, and it is nothing without us. "Start your own website" is bullshit. Makes about the same sense as "build your own public square in the center of town". Of course it is theoretically possible to start your own website, by virtue of the nature of the medium. But theory is not practice. In practice, the public square already exists. It is HERE. And it belongs to all of us. Generally, the censorthip on this board is rather arbitrary. ENTIRELY arbitrary, in fact. The nature of this board is that anyone can post any damn wild-ass idea that pops into their head, and express any wierd extremist idea imaginable. As such, what is the basis for censorship? THERE IS NONE. NONE. Zero. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171394 United Kingdom12/19/2006 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Smells Like Phish User ID: 155148 United Kingdom12/19/2006 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was banned at GlockTalk for no other reason than providing the Truth about 9/11, the war, and the growing Police State in America. Quoting: Patriot 171426In a thread about 9/11, I was challenged to provide evidence that it was not what they have been told. I started a thread providing all my evidence. It required many posts, as there is much evidence. Eric, the admin/owner of Glocktalk locked the thread without reason or even a post by himself. When I asked why it was locked, all he did was told me to "try to stay closer to reality". Next, a post comes up that police rarely make mistakes and usually get it right when raiding homes in paramilitary raids. I stated the contrary and was challenged to 'provide evidence'. I started a thread that included 41 incidents of paramilitary raids into people's homes that killed innocent people, many of which concluded with absolutely no justice for the innocents killed. The evidence was compelling. The thread was locked just like the other, with no explanation. Upon trying to log in the next day, I find that I am banned, and my IP addy is also banned. I never flamed anyone or cussed or anything like that. Both of the threads that were closed contained no flaming by any other poster, and remained civil. I contributed in many threads at GlockTalk and was always helpful and courteous. This is pure crap and I am very angry. Is the Truth too much for some people? Eric banned me for no other than political reasons. This is not going to happen without recourse. To those of you who will say, "just let it slide"- thats not going to happen. So WTF are you telling us for? One bump in the road and it's boohoo, boohoo. Get over it and toughen up. Secrets of the CIA Video (2hr 2min) [link to video.google.co.uk] Unexplained Mysteries. [link to www.unexplained-mysteries.com] Put something usefull in this area not just some stupid saying.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So WTF are you telling us for? Quoting: Smells Like PhishOne bump in the road and it's boohoo, boohoo. Get over it and toughen up. Why don't YOU get over your passivity and cowardly acquiescence to arbitrary censorship? Get a spine, pal. |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Why are you still wetting diapers here? Quit the whining and get off back there and argue your case like a man or put up the bucks and start your own site where you can play by your rules. Not everyone belives in 9/11 conspiracies so get over it if you don't have convincing proof. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not everyone belives in 9/11 conspiracies so get over it if you don't have convincing proof. Quoting: KY6 171096You actually believe that this place is about offering "convincing proof", and that threads not offering it should be axed?! IN that case, I'd like to show you some land in Florida... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373 United States12/19/2006 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not everyone belives in 9/11 conspiracies so get over it if you don't have convincing proof. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455You actually believe that this place is about offering “convincing proof”, and that threads not offering it should be axed?! IN that case, I'd like to show you some land in Florida... When somebody claims to know the "Truth" about something, I think that it is reasonable to ask to see some evidence. Everybody recognizes that people who claim to know the "Truth" are also the people least likely to have any evidence in support of their opinion. |
| 2XSecretAgent User ID: 164883 United States12/19/2006 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are still posting on someone ELSES forums, they have the right to think and act however they want. It seems simple enough to be what your solution should be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455Start your own website and forums and then nobody can lock your threads or ban you and you can "get the truth out" as you speak. Wrong. This is a public forum. It belongs to all of us, and it is nothing without us. "Start your own website" is bullshit. Makes about the same sense as "build your own public square in the center of town". Of course it is theoretically possible to start your own website, by virtue of the nature of the medium. But theory is not practice. In practice, the public square already exists. It is HERE. And it belongs to all of us. Generally, the censorthip on this board is rather arbitrary. ENTIRELY arbitrary, in fact. The nature of this board is that anyone can post any damn wild-ass idea that pops into their head, and express any wierd extremist idea imaginable. As such, what is the basis for censorship? THERE IS NONE. NONE. Zero. No, You are wrong, OP. A truly public forum would be paid for by the taxes of the people, like the public square or town center is. This forum, and all internet forums are the property of whoever pays for it, and you have no rights, only privileges that have been granted to you by the website owner. Try reading this so you will know what the hell you are actually talking about. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. ------- There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. ------- Contact: GLP2XSA@hotmail.com |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not everyone belives in 9/11 conspiracies so get over it if you don't have convincing proof. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455You actually believe that this place is about offering "convincing proof", and that threads not offering it should be axed?! IN that case, I'd like to show you some land in Florida... THIS place is about whatever Trin, the posters and readers collectively make of it. If however you have come across an opposing viewpoint to yours on another site then that is the best place to debate it. If your 'proof' was unconvincing, slanderous or plain off the wall unbelievable then any webforum host is entitled (by right of owning the site) to draw you up on it. It simply means you have to try harder and do better research than repeat endless boring copy/pasted stuff from less than credible sources. Bitching on GLP will not advance your cause |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When somebody claims to know the "Truth" about something, I think that it is reasonable to ask to see some evidence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373Go ahead and ask all you want. That's not the issue. Everybody recognizes that people who claim to know the "Truth" are also the people least likely to have any evidence in support of their opinion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373So what? What does this have to do with GLP? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A truly public forum would be paid for by the taxes of the people, like the public square or town center is. This forum, and all internet forums are the property of whoever pays for it, and you have no rights, only privileges that have been granted to you by the website owner. Quoting: 2XSecretAgentTry reading this so you will know what the hell you are actually talking about. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This forum IS paid for by the taxes of the people. The people who visit here are the audience, and the NUMBERS of them are what generate ad revenue for the site. We pay our "taxes" by coming here, thereby increasing the ad revenue for GLP. We especially pay our "taxes" by spending time composing thoughtful posts and threads that are worth reading, that ATTRACT PEOPLE to come here and come back again and again -- thus raising ad revenue. Your simplistic little "private property" thingie is based on a paradigm that is not relevant to this medium. You're not getting it. But you will. Just start thinking! Thanks for the link! It expresses just what I am talking about. Indeed, I suggest that YOU read it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to try harder and do better research than repeat endless boring copy/pasted stuff from less than credible sources. Quoting: KY6 171096Pal, 90% of EVERYTHING that appears on GLP is "copy/ pasted suff from less than credible sources". Didn't you notice? And now, a question for you: Why is it so easy to blow your "arguments" out of the water? |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to try harder and do better research than repeat endless boring copy/pasted stuff from less than credible sources. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455Pal, 90% of EVERYTHING that appears on GLP is "copy/ pasted suff from less than credible sources". Didn't you notice? And now, a question for you: Why is it so easy to blow your "arguments" out of the water? I don't think you have even addressed the subject so the failure (if any) is on your part |
| Nero User ID: 164844  Canada12/19/2006 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 171455 United States12/19/2006 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| 2XSecretAgent User ID: 164883 United States12/19/2006 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A truly public forum would be paid for by the taxes of the people, like the public square or town center is. This forum, and all internet forums are the property of whoever pays for it, and you have no rights, only privileges that have been granted to you by the website owner. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455Try reading this so you will know what the hell you are actually talking about. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] This forum IS paid for by the taxes of the people. The people who visit here are the audience, and the NUMBERS of them are what generate ad revenue for the site. We pay our "taxes" by coming here, thereby increasing the ad revenue for GLP. We especially pay our "taxes" by spending time composing thoughtful posts and threads that are worth reading, that ATTRACT PEOPLE to come here and come back again and again -- thus raising ad revenue. Your simplistic little "private property" thingie is based on a paradigm that is not relevant to this medium. You're not getting it. But you will. Just start thinking! Thanks for the link! It expresses just what I am talking about. Indeed, I suggest that YOU read it. well how about paying your taxes and actually composing one of those thoughtful posts that are worth reading? Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. ------- There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. ------- Contact: GLP2XSA@hotmail.com |
| KY6 User ID: 171096 United Kingdom12/19/2006 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you have even addressed the subject so the failure (if any) is on your part Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455I addressed EVERY point you made, I believe. And you have no response. Whatever. The subject you consistently refuse to address is the fact that your gripe is with another board not GLP yet you are continually whining here when your time would be better spent contacting the other site's host and explaining why you should be given more bandwidth. If what we see here is evidence of your debating skills then I'm not surprised you made little headway on a board which, I gather, isn't too 'conspiracy' open minded. What did you expect? that we would all say "There, there" then rush over to wherever and flood the board on your behalf? Sorry, it's a rough world - treat it as a learning experience and grow some. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 121182 United States12/19/2006 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are still posting on someone ELSES forums, they have the right to think and act however they want. It seems simple enough to be what your solution should be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171455Start your own website and forums and then nobody can lock your threads or ban you and you can "get the truth out" as you speak. Wrong. This is a public forum. It belongs to all of us, and it is nothing without us. "Start your own website" is bullshit. Makes about the same sense as "build your own public square in the center of town". Of course it is theoretically possible to start your own website, by virtue of the nature of the medium. But theory is not practice. In practice, the public square already exists. It is HERE. And it belongs to all of us. Generally, the censorthip on this board is rather arbitrary. ENTIRELY arbitrary, in fact. The nature of this board is that anyone can post any damn wild-ass idea that pops into their head, and express any wierd extremist idea imaginable. As such, what is the basis for censorship? THERE IS NONE. NONE. Zero. This is not a public forum, despite what you think it is privately owned. It may be "Open" to the public, however it is not paid for with taxes, any claim that ad revenue amounts to actual taxation is just a claim and would be in dispute over the very meaning and definition of the word "tax". even in a public forum, the supreme court has argued that censorship is valid, its ok to speak your mind as long as you are not defaming me or my reputation or slandering or some other form of libel. When you own the website where the forum is, then you can talk to me about control and censorship and taxes and all that other BS. Until then, you got smacked by the SysOp, he didn't like what you were saying on HIS forum so you get the boot. Go ahead and complain all you'd like its apparently the only thing you are good at. |
| Chaiyah User ID: 167203 United States12/19/2006 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no right to free speech. Don't be so naive. The way the market in ideas is segmented, it is the personal preferences of management that dictate who remains in a Forum and who gets kicked out. It has nothing whatsoever to do with rules. The mods make or break the rules at will, depending on what management says. And the effect is precisely what the New World Odor wants : infinite fragmentation over thousands of Forums, so that community information and community consensus is impossible to forward, share or consolidate. This is one of a handful of forums I know of that allows anyone to follow and operates by its rules. And the number of Forum Gulags increases every day. |
