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Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day

 
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Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
The media has a clear message ~ one I agree with completely in the case of the Stanford Raper ~ Alcohol is NOT to be blamed for what happens in an intoxicated rape such as what happened at Stanford.

It is an outrage ~ and anyone defending or arguing that was just a he said she said college hookup ~ NO, that's not at all what happened here. Dragging her behind a dumpster ~ That's not a college hookup, that's a kidnapping/rape no different than someone pulling a woman into a van. Defenders of such actions are confusing their own guilty conscious ~ actions that may have been at least morally wrong, but were not rape ~ with this kind of story.

And the media is making it clear ~ like this story, MAN is to be blamed for rape, Not Alcohol.

[link to www.cnn.com]

So why is their message the exact opposite in the case of Guns?

30,000 killed by guns a year (not all homicides). 75,000 by alcohol ~ drunk driving deaths and homicides by gun ~ what should be considered "deaths against someone else's will, not by their own hand ~ a clearly identified victim" are about the same number.

So if Rape by Alcohol is a man's fault, why is homicide by gun the gun's fault?




talk amongst yourselves.

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by the way.

Turner may have only gotten 3~6 months ~

but that's a LOT of 20 minute action sessions - and the prison population knows who he is, and is waiting.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
nobody was calling for a ban on jungle juice last week ~

just saying.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
When a GUN accidentally find the presence of alcohol it must become gay. begins shooting rounds, I am still trying to understand how it reloads itself. To be honest I am not a Koran reader so it must be covered there somewhere ?
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That;s liberal logic to a capital T alright. cheers
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That;s liberal logic to a capital T alright. cheers
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

More like corrupt false liberal logic.

Modern "liberals" aren't really liberal. They're just sheep following a trend.

Liberal means LIBERTY. Freedom. Gun ownership is a liberty, therefore a true Liberal should be ok with gun ownership.

I personally think drugs should be decriminalized, gays should be allowed to marry, AND people should be allowed to have guns.

But I don't associate with idiot SJW "liberals". I'm for less government regulation, not more.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
It has nothing to do with liberal logic. Whatever that is. It has to do with the Marxist agenda and them using dumb fuck liberals as the distraction.

Marxists want to take your guns so they can holocaust your ass. That's the enemy. Liberals are just useful imbeciles.
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That;s liberal logic to a capital T alright. cheers
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

More like corrupt false liberal logic.

Modern "liberals" aren't really liberal. They're just sheep following a trend.

Liberal means LIBERTY. Freedom. Gun ownership is a liberty, therefore a true Liberal should be ok with gun ownership.

I personally think drugs should be decriminalized, gays should be allowed to marry, AND people should be allowed to have guns.

But I don't associate with idiot SJW "liberals". I'm for less government regulation, not more.
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I hear ya, but that's the classic liberalism of 40-50 years ago, not the present day.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
That;s liberal logic to a capital T alright. cheers
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

More like corrupt false liberal logic.

Modern "liberals" aren't really liberal. They're just sheep following a trend.

Liberal means LIBERTY. Freedom. Gun ownership is a liberty, therefore a true Liberal should be ok with gun ownership.

I personally think drugs should be decriminalized, gays should be allowed to marry, AND people should be allowed to have guns.

But I don't associate with idiot SJW "liberals". I'm for less government regulation, not more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72303748


Okay okay. Mincing words here. We all know the root of the word "liberal" and we also know what it means in modern parlance. Word usage changes over time. I don't necessarily like it, but it's a fact. What you're talking about is "libertarian" (as you know), and the two are clearly distinguished. For the purposes of this and all other discussions on the topic, the word "liberal" does its job. Everyone who wants to comment about liberal insanity shouldn't be forced to qualify its meaning with a paragraph-long caveat about the word's etymology.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
You don't hear them advocating stopping rapists by removing all penises from society, do you?

That's because they HAVE penises, too! It's easy to give away the rights you are not currently using. (looking at YOU, UK!)
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i like the analogy

may it get them thinking

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the world is in the mess it is because of Liberals. just my opinions
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
That;s liberal logic to a capital T alright. cheers
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant

More like corrupt false liberal logic.

Modern "liberals" aren't really liberal. They're just sheep following a trend.

Liberal means LIBERTY. Freedom. Gun ownership is a liberty, therefore a true Liberal should be ok with gun ownership.

I personally think drugs should be decriminalized, gays should be allowed to marry, AND people should be allowed to have guns.

But I don't associate with idiot SJW "liberals". I'm for less government regulation, not more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72303748


Very True! But unfortunately the Liberal/Democrat Party was hijacked long ago. Now it's full of Progressive, Socialist, Communist ideology.
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
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... yeah right ... like a GUN walks down the street and SHOOTS people! ...
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... or goes to a school and shoots things up! ...
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... or goes to a night club and shoots things up! ...
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... NO! ... it's the HUMAN!!!!!! ...
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
What your doing here is saying that by wanting to take guns it is making a statement that the gun is the fault, when thats not the case.

Wordsmithing.

Many people cant handle their alcohol, many cant handle lethal weapons. We all know there are many people with mental health issues that impairs their judgement.

By you wording it is implied that anything illegal today is deemed the ilegal items fault not the user. That is just silly. Like your own rape analogy, Is rape on heroin or methamphetamine then the heroin and methamphetamine fault as it was taken of you, but not if you were on alcohol? Stop it...
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Re: Rape by Alcohol is the man's fault, Homicide by gun is the gun's fault - Liberal Logic fail of the day
They would have you all institutionalised from birth if they could and are working on it. You are watching saying nothing. That is the real issue. Cherry picking gun laws won't szvd you from them and mzinstream ignorance.





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