Historians : is the King James Bible the same as what the Torah was when Jesus read it as a youth?

No. Book Binding wasn't invented.

Honestly interested enough to spend 15 minutes researching?

If so, [link to www.remnantofgod.org]


15 minutes from now, please give your conclusion.

that remnantofgod link doesn't really answer his question.

Absolutely not. KJV is revised to suit the purposes of the political climate of the time.

No...

It isn't just the Torah. There are many books in the old testament. There are at least 12 or 13 books. They are broken up into various sections. The first 5 books are very important and many Jewish scholars say that those first 5 are the true Testament. The Torah is more a book of laws that the Jews follow. They claim it is the Law of God and it builds upon the 10 commandments.

The King James Bible has elements of the old testament in it, but goes beyond that and proclaims Jesus as the Messiah and therefore you get the New Testament...

The New Testament wasn't codified until the 4th century.

You are wrong and completely ignorant...

The documents used to translate the KJV (the "Received Texts") are BY FAR the most verified and proven documents in all of human history. Over 500 documents, dating back over 3000 years, all of which match to perfect accuracy with each other. No other historical documents come close.

For example, Homer's Iliad is one of the closest any historical writings come to the KJV document... and we have only about 7 copies, the oldest of which is less than 500 years old, and the accuracy between the seven copies is less than the 5000 copies of the KJV Received Texts.

No historian (atheist agnostic or otherwise) challenges the profoundness of the historical validation of the scriptures. They may not like what is written in them, but none can argue the fact that they have been perfectly preserved, word for word, for over 3000 years and vastly more surviving copies than any other writing. This fact is proven beyond all doubt and all challenges.

When Jesus read the scriptures, they were not in a codified form (book), each scripture was a separate scroll; also without the chapter and verse numberings we have now.

However, the Hebrew text that he read is identical to the text we have today and the text used to translate the KJV. They are word-for-word precise and this have been proven many times over.

Really? You must be tripping to believe that.
Next you will believe the Bible is the most read book in the world.
Lots of people challenge the KJV Bible and mostly by historians.
And the Torah is stories from other older religions.
Please try thinking. Not following people who claim god talks to them.

Actually the LXX , is closer to the proto Hebrew texts the Lord was reading. What does that mean, well lets take Matthew for example it says things in the received text, that appear to be not there in the scriptures prior to His birth.
what happened?
well after rome took over Jerusalem completely and destroyed the temple etc, the Pharisees regrouped, convened a special gathering decades later , and rewrote parts of scripture that showed that YAHshua/Jesu/Joshua, was the foretold Anointed One.

Version. Meaning revised.

Got a dictionary laying around by chance?

A Google?

I don't understand why people are worried about their perception of changes to the kjv bible.

If you have the Holy Spirit (Christ Jesus) HE will lead you to all truth (HE is the Spirit of Truth; John 16:13). On that basis you are concerned about changes because you aren't listening to the Holy Spirit or don't have HIM ("Depart from me I never knew you"; Matthew 7:23)

If you want to maintain "the kjv changed! It's the devil!" that's okay as it relates to the sinister nature of Satan and his forces. So I'll present reasons why/how this would be possible/why he would want to do that:
1)KJV is available in dollar stores; easy access for poor people. Poor people are more likely to believe the true gospel.

2)The true gospel has been unsealed which means the hourglass is winding down so GOD has allowed him to tamper with the bible. (Revelation 10:7) Time isn't contiguous so certain events can be triggered before they happen and certain things can be fulfilled before their appointed time but still be fulfilled as long as they fulfill prophecy.

The bible isn't the word (the printed bibles) the Holy Spirit is the WORD (Christ Jesus) (remember the prophets spoke from the Spirit and it was the WORD of the LORD; Jeremiah 1:4/throughout the bible) and the Holy Spirit doesn't change. It's the mediator between you and GOD including conveying messages.

If you believe it has changed the flesh answer would be number 1; the spirit answer would be number 2. If GOD allows satan to tamper with even the printed bibles it's because the actual gospel has been revealed (2 Thessolonians 2:11-12).

If you don't know the actual gospel then this will affect you because it all revolves around the Holy Spirit and the Baptism of Christ both in the Old Testament and New Testament. Paul told you explicitly what was going on here and Christians fell into the same trap as the Israelites. (Galatians 2 + 3) You pay for your sins with the Holy Spirit (partaking of the sufferings of Christ) and since you can't "not sin" well it's ongoing until the number of those sealed in the feast of the LORD has been met (1 Peter 4:12, 2 Esdras 2:38). This number is 144,000 (Revelation 7) and there are way more than 144,000 people claiming to have the Holy Spirit; this can be the case because it's a specific form of the Holy Spirit (GOLD) that requires works of righteousness to achieve with the Holy Spirit (Matthew 25, Isaiah 58) which is achieved faster with Melchizedek dedication (actively feeding the poor, clothing them, sheltering them, and breaking them free).

The truth is that you can't break anyone free using pre-printed tracts and select quotes that are "safe" or "magic words" doctrines because that's actually condemning them (synagogue of satan stuff) because it's not true. Salvation is a process, the baptism of Christ is the whole book of JOB plus a portion at the end (regarding works) to "come forth as GOLD" (Job 23:10) AND you need to maintain it by keep doing it.

How many days a week? I do it 7 days a week but I have a lot of things (iniquity) to unwrite/undo. Take it to the LORD and see what he says. It might relate more to how much you're doing in your situation than actual time dedicated. But it has to relate to the works of righteousness as outlined and you can't free anyone if you don't know the true gospel.