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:hmmm:

So objectively observing and discussing these attributes apparently makes you tptb and/or some kind of enemy. Interesting.

It's also interesting how they all view those attributes as making that person "safe". No matter what they say or and do and something else I've always noticed is the ones who think they are the one only argue with those who don't also think they are the one.
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The situation is a bit more complex than that and it derived from the very shaping of the character/archetype.
I think that the arguing is strongly tied with a need of validation not only as a "physical carrier" of the archetype but also as a validation of the archetype's/character's traits/qualities.

I may be wrong on this of course, as i didn't take as much time as you did to observe the cause and the effects related to the subject.
 Quoting: S__


My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Why do I like the idea of being hyper-analyzed?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You're a pervert? Lol.

Idk. Maybe it's flattering in some way? Or maybe looking for confirmation from an objective third party about something to do with yourself you think may be true?
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My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Basically I treat something like a thing. An alien. I apply stimuli and record reactions. I end up with a do and don't type list of information. Though I may still not know what I'm studying sometimes I know what it reacts to and in what ways.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Yeah.

I've figured out something on that line :-)

On the other hand, you too are a piece of the architecture (in making) of this archetype - through the "experiments" you are conducting on the subjects related to it.
You may say that even the observers are part of the architecture and i can't disagree with that :-)

It's an interesting situation - with both sad and funny sides of it :-)
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My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Basically I treat something like a thing. An alien. I apply stimuli and record reactions. I end up with a do and don't type list of information. Though I may still not know what I'm studying sometimes I know what it reacts to and in what ways.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Yeah.

I've figured out something on that line :-)

On the other hand, you too are a piece of the architecture (in making) of this archetype - through the "experiments" you are conducting on the subjects related to it.
You may say that even the observers are part of the architecture and i can't disagree with that :-)

It's an interesting situation - with both sad and funny sides of it :-)
 Quoting: S__


Yes I imagine I can feel like the eye of sauron bearing down and disecting a target to some ppl sometimes.

But that in itself is a stimuli with measurable reactions.

:eyeofsauron:
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I just realized that this thread now has beaten my record (for longest).

Not that it even remotely compares to the amazing quality of things that people posted in my second longest:

Thread: I almost hate posting this because it is sad. How do we escape this viscous soul sucking reality?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Congrats !
 Quoting: S__


Meh.

I am well over 500x prouder of the other one.

But maybe this has potential.

UM's thread is quite a feat to live up to though.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


TBH i still don't understand the purpose of the thread - except for gathering attention from the already known participants to these kind of threads (And if that was the case, you should be proud of the achievement).
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The situation is a bit more complex than that and it derived from the very shaping of the character/archetype.
I think that the arguing is strongly tied with a need of validation not only as a "physical carrier" of the archetype but also as a validation of the archetype's/character's traits/qualities.

I may be wrong on this of course, as i didn't take as much time as you did to observe the cause and the effects related to the subject.
 Quoting: S__


My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Why do I like the idea of being hyper-analyzed?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You're a pervert? Lol.

Idk. Maybe it's flattering in some way? Or maybe looking for confirmation from an objective third party about something to do with yourself you think may be true?
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I am not going to think too deep about it. Who knows.
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My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Why do I like the idea of being hyper-analyzed?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You're a pervert? Lol.

Idk. Maybe it's flattering in some way? Or maybe looking for confirmation from an objective third party about something to do with yourself you think may be true?
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I am not going to think too deep about it. Who knows.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You asked 1dunno1
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My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Basically I treat something like a thing. An alien. I apply stimuli and record reactions. I end up with a do and don't type list of information. Though I may still not know what I'm studying sometimes I know what it reacts to and in what ways.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Yeah.

I've figured out something on that line :-)

On the other hand, you too are a piece of the architecture (in making) of this archetype - through the "experiments" you are conducting on the subjects related to it.
You may say that even the observers are part of the architecture and i can't disagree with that :-)

It's an interesting situation - with both sad and funny sides of it :-)
 Quoting: S__


Yes I imagine I can feel like the eye of sauron bearing down and disecting a target to some ppl sometimes.

But that in itself is a stimuli with measurable reactions.

eyeofsauron
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Hahaha :-))

You evil, you ! Eye of Sauron, aye ?

chuckle

On a more serious note, that sauron eye resembles so well to a mandorla (aureola).
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I just realized that this thread now has beaten my record (for longest).

Not that it even remotely compares to the amazing quality of things that people posted in my second longest:

Thread: I almost hate posting this because it is sad. How do we escape this viscous soul sucking reality?
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Congrats !
 Quoting: S__


Meh.

I am well over 500x prouder of the other one.

But maybe this has potential.

UM's thread is quite a feat to live up to though.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


TBH i still don't understand the purpose of the thread - except for gathering attention from the already known participants to these kind of threads (And if that was the case, you should be proud of the achievement).
 Quoting: S__



I was annoyed at them all after reading the camo thread and just wanted to vent that they are not this dude, especially if they have had not a single obstacle in their lives. What percentage of them just have seen a few weird things, or think they know special information, or just feel special... and assume that means they are going to save the world?

I dunno there really was no purpose besides me venting.
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Why do I like the idea of being hyper-analyzed?
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You're a pervert? Lol.

Idk. Maybe it's flattering in some way? Or maybe looking for confirmation from an objective third party about something to do with yourself you think may be true?
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I am not going to think too deep about it. Who knows.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You asked 1dunno1
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Yeah I did and you are right. But maybe there is a bit more to it. But yeah.
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Wow the temps in here sure changed. Where did everyone go?

Hope everyone is doing well.



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My best method is emotionless. I only watch stimuli and reactions. I end up with a list of hard facts that can be applied.

That gives me a set of facts that at first I don't know why they work necessarily because I hadn't researched it from that angle purposely, that wasn't my objective, but they work just the same with or without my understanding why regardless.

It's a means to strip a problem away from the distractions meant to cloak others from its basic building blocks.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


Basically I treat something like a thing. An alien. I apply stimuli and record reactions. I end up with a do and don't type list of information. Though I may still not know what I'm studying sometimes I know what it reacts to and in what ways.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Yeah.

I've figured out something on that line :-)

On the other hand, you too are a piece of the architecture (in making) of this archetype - through the "experiments" you are conducting on the subjects related to it.
You may say that even the observers are part of the architecture and i can't disagree with that :-)

It's an interesting situation - with both sad and funny sides of it :-)
 Quoting: S__


Yes I imagine I can feel like the eye of sauron bearing down and disecting a target to some ppl sometimes.

But that in itself is a stimuli with measurable reactions.

:eyeofsauron:
 Quoting: Facts>feelings



Hahaha :-))

You evil, you ! Eye of Sauron, aye ?

chuckle

On a more serious note, that sauron eye resembles so well to a mandorla (aureola).
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:yum:
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i am who i am, both you and facts have stated on the mad world thread, that you are indeed satanists. as such, your motives can be viewed in the light that the nobody meme presents a threat to you both. you may be right! lol
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You're a pervert? Lol.

Idk. Maybe it's flattering in some way? Or maybe looking for confirmation from an objective third party about something to do with yourself you think may be true?
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I am not going to think too deep about it. Who knows.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


You asked 1dunno1
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Yeah I did and you are right. But maybe there is a bit more to it. But yeah.
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I just measure what moves ;)
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Save the world? That's not what is defined. It's the people and living things appropriate. Life will continue just in different contexts. The main difference. Love and peace will be abundant unlike the current global status.
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Wow the temps in here sure changed. Where did everyone go?

Hope everyone is doing well.



ufo56




waaaht
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I'm great hi
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I am not going to think too deep about it. Who knows.
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You asked 1dunno1
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Yeah I did and you are right. But maybe there is a bit more to it. But yeah.
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I just measure what moves ;)
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do you measure the growth lip blisters! lol
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i am who i am, both you and facts have stated on the mad world thread, that you are indeed satanists. as such, your motives can be viewed in the light that the nobody meme presents a threat to you both. you may be right! lol
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:derp2:
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i am who i am, both you and facts have stated on the mad world thread, that you are indeed satanists. as such, your motives can be viewed in the light that the nobody meme presents a threat to you both. you may be right! lol
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I do not post on that thread. Nor have I said that anywhere else.
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Well... see you around guys :-)

You have fun and don't forget to call the spanish inquisition if there are too many masochists around.

chuckle

(joking :P)
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the psoriasis is a little gift! lol
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Observer Effect.

"In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. "

In Quantum Mechanics...

"Once one has measured the system, one knows its current state; and this prevents it from being in one of its other states−−it has apparently decohered from them without prospects of future strong quantum interference. This means that the type of measurement one performs on the system affects the end-state of the system."

One example...

"An experimentally studied situation related to this is the quantum Zeno effect, in which a quantum state would decay if left alone, but does not decay because of its continuous observation."
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Well... see you around guys :-)

You have fun and don't forget to call the spanish inquisition if there are too many masochists around.

chuckle

(joking :P)
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Bye :-)
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Well... see you around guys :-)

You have fun and don't forget to call the spanish inquisition if there are too many masochists around.

chuckle

(joking :P)
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L8'r
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Observer Effect.

"In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. "

In Quantum Mechanics...

"Once one has measured the system, one knows its current state; and this prevents it from being in one of its other states−−it has apparently decohered from them without prospects of future strong quantum interference. This means that the type of measurement one performs on the system affects the end-state of the system."

One example...

"An experimentally studied situation related to this is the quantum Zeno effect, in which a quantum state would decay if left alone, but does not decay because of its continuous observation."
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thinking about both of you! lol
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Observer Effect.

"In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. "

In Quantum Mechanics...

"Once one has measured the system, one knows its current state; and this prevents it from being in one of its other states−−it has apparently decohered from them without prospects of future strong quantum interference. This means that the type of measurement one performs on the system affects the end-state of the system."

One example...

"An experimentally studied situation related to this is the quantum Zeno effect, in which a quantum state would decay if left alone, but does not decay because of its continuous observation."
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Yes the seed of code crawls & crawls...u guys around?
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Congrats !
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Meh.

I am well over 500x prouder of the other one.

But maybe this has potential.

UM's thread is quite a feat to live up to though.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


TBH i still don't understand the purpose of the thread - except for gathering attention from the already known participants to these kind of threads (And if that was the case, you should be proud of the achievement).
 Quoting: S__



I was annoyed at them all after reading the camo thread and just wanted to vent that they are not this dude, especially if they have had not a single obstacle in their lives. What percentage of them just have seen a few weird things, or think they know special information, or just feel special... and assume that means they are going to save the world?

I dunno there really was no purpose besides me venting.
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You're right...funny weird things..I go now.
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Let's pretend there is a man who is suppose to save us, rule us, judge us, unite us...or whatever else you might have in mind.

Well there is MUCH more going on than he just happens to be chosen.

So if you think you are him, just because of the weird things you have seen, you are wrong.

This person would need to actually have a different character and greatness that would have had to be beaten into him. I mean BEATEN.

By now, he would have had to go through more pain than most any one of you could ever fathom. And he will have even more pain to go through.

This includes physical, psychological, emotional (and more) pain and torture. That is what makes someone great, if they can overcome and grow from it. It also makes them realize their own greatness.

I am not just referring to a messed up childhood or something. No no no... the level of these experiences...you guys just have no clue.

You would not want to wish this on yourself. No one, not even his female counterpart, will ever go through the level of pain he has, and also what he will have to.

The respect EVERY single being in the entire Universe will have for him, when this is all said and done, will be unfathomable. The ones that observe him now, already have that awe.

Do you really think that right now you are seen in such incredibly high regard right now for the ACTIONS you have taken in spite of the PAIN you have been put under?

It is in a way disrespectful to try and claim to be someone who has been infinitely more bruised than your imagination could understand. And it is foolish of you.

There are tons and tons of psych-ops being done to try and convince you all that you are him. You are being deluded by these controllers. If they care enough to do this to you personally, you might have a role to play soon...but you are not him. But many of you just have a power complex and have convinced yourself you are awesome enough to be chosen.

This is WAY WAY WAY more complicated than just someone being chosen. This is earned.

And stop using this stupid "Nobody" label. It is just a meme.
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Another retarded thread by the loser that goes by I am who I am, I.E coward to even admit he's an anonymous coward :)

1 million comedians out of work and he's trying to be funny. :))
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Observer Effect.

"In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. "

In Quantum Mechanics...

"Once one has measured the system, one knows its current state; and this prevents it from being in one of its other states−−it has apparently decohered from them without prospects of future strong quantum interference. This means that the type of measurement one performs on the system affects the end-state of the system."

One example...

"An experimentally studied situation related to this is the quantum Zeno effect, in which a quantum state would decay if left alone, but does not decay because of its continuous observation."
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Yerp
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Oh shut up kid you've no even a single idea about any quantum physics, nor does I am who I am. -_- woooow any physicist could tell.
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Observer Effect.

"In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. "

In Quantum Mechanics...

"Once one has measured the system, one knows its current state; and this prevents it from being in one of its other states−−it has apparently decohered from them without prospects of future strong quantum interference. This means that the type of measurement one performs on the system affects the end-state of the system."

One example...

"An experimentally studied situation related to this is the quantum Zeno effect, in which a quantum state would decay if left alone, but does not decay because of its continuous observation."
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


Yerp
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Oh shut up kid you've no even a single idea about any quantum physics, nor does I am who I am. -_- woooow any physicist could tell.
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That is a real thing you idiot. I don't doubt for one second you know jack shit about quantum anything. Stop proxy jumping to show your ignorance and stalk posters.
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