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Watch for the one who Teaches against God's law..

i.e. Gay marriage, Transgenderism, not eating meat...


LOL
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Passover lamb aside, there's no law against abstaining from meat.
 Quoting: Monotheism


no the antichrist in 2nd thessalonians teaches the doctrine

of not eating meat..

Its called the doctrines of devils
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READ THIS VERSION

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2 Thessalonians 2

But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah and our gathering together to meet him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come and the man who separates himself from Torah has been revealed, the one destined for doom. 4 He will oppose himself to everything that people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself above them all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God. 5 Don't you remember that when I was still with you, I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, so that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For already this separating from Torah is at work secretly, but it will be secretly only until he who is restraining is out of the way. 8 Then the one who embodies separation from Torah will be revealed, the one whom the Lord Yeshua will slay with the breath of his mouthd and destroy by the glory of his coming. 9 When this man who avoids Torah comes, the Adversary will give him the power to work all kinds of false miracles, signs and wonders. 10 He will enable him to deceive, in all kinds of wicked ways, those who are headed for destruction because they would not receive the love of the truth that could have saved them. 11 This is why God is causing them to go astray, so that they will believe the Lie. 12 The result will be that all who have not believed the truth, but have taken their pleasure in wickedness, will be condemned. 13 But we have to keep thanking God for you always, brothers whom the Lord loves, because God chose you as firstfruits for deliverance by giving you the holiness that has its origin in the Spirit and the faithfulness that has its origin in the truth. 14 He called you to this through our Good News, so that you could have the glory of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah. 15 Therefore, brothers, stand firm; and hold to the traditions you were taught by us, whether we spoke them or wrote them in a letter. 16 And may our Lord Yeshua the Messiah himself and God our Father, who has loved us and by his grace given us eternal comfort and a good hope, 17 comfort your hearts and strengthen you in every good word and deed.
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Just so everyone knows "Apostasy" or Apostasia is a transliterated word that was given a wrong definition when they transliterated it. The oldest of English Bibles defined it correctly but it has become to be understood as "a falling away from the faith" that is not what the word meant. It means a forceful snatching away.
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Believers, You need to learn the Ways of Daniel now! And Live as he did in the land of Babylon. Even people who call themselves Christians are turning. An Evil Day is upon us.
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well 2nd thessalonians says there will be a great falling away

from the law, then comes the antichrist..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


The falling away has already occurred and the Antichrist, in the person of Obama, has been revealed. You have to be spiritually blind not to see it by now!
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America is babylon

The scarlet coloured beast is the United Nations. The 2nd beast with two horns is the United States and the United Kingdom. The woman that sits upon the scarlet coloured beast is New York City. America is spiritual babylon and England is spiritual Edom.
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nope wrong the second beast is a man both daniel 7 and Revelation says it over a dozen times

as well as daniel 8 10 and 11


Says he is a man speaking great things, changing the times

and the laws. also says he does not like women.


america is not babylon, Islam is..
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READ THIS VERSION

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Complete Jewish Bible

2 Thessalonians 2

But in connection with the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah and our gathering together to meet him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to be easily shaken in your thinking or anxious because of a spirit or a spoken message or a letter supposedly from us claiming that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come and the man who separates himself from Torah has been revealed, the one destined for doom. 4 He will oppose himself to everything that people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself above them all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God. 5 Don't you remember that when I was still with you, I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, so that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For already this separating from Torah is at work secretly, but it will be secretly only until he who is restraining is out of the way. 8 Then the one who embodies separation from Torah will be revealed, the one whom the Lord Yeshua will slay with the breath of his mouthd and destroy by the glory of his coming. 9 When this man who avoids Torah comes, the Adversary will give him the power to work all kinds of false miracles, signs and wonders. 10 He will enable him to deceive, in all kinds of wicked ways, those who are headed for destruction because they would not receive the love of the truth that could have saved them. 11 This is why God is causing them to go astray, so that they will believe the Lie. 12 The result will be that all who have not believed the truth, but have taken their pleasure in wickedness, will be condemned. 13 But we have to keep thanking God for you always, brothers whom the Lord loves, because God chose you as firstfruits for deliverance by giving you the holiness that has its origin in the Spirit and the faithfulness that has its origin in the truth. 14 He called you to this through our Good News, so that you could have the glory of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah. 15 Therefore, brothers, stand firm; and hold to the traditions you were taught by us, whether we spoke them or wrote them in a letter. 16 And may our Lord Yeshua the Messiah himself and God our Father, who has loved us and by his grace given us eternal comfort and a good hope, 17 comfort your hearts and strengthen you in every good word and deed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72329511

Just so everyone knows "Apostasy" or Apostasia is a transliterated word that was given a wrong definition when they transliterated it. The oldest of English Bibles defined it correctly but it has become to be understood as "a falling away from the faith" that is not what the word meant. It means a forceful snatching away.
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that is correct
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America is babylon

The scarlet coloured beast is the United Nations. The 2nd beast with two horns is the United States and the United Kingdom. The woman that sits upon the scarlet coloured beast is New York City. America is spiritual babylon and England is spiritual Edom.
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The UN headquarters is in NYC

That's why the woman that sits upon the scarlet coloured beast is New York City
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America is babylon and will be destroyed by Almighty God

America is not eternal

The end of the world is coming
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The Second beast.

The Beast Out of the Earth
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed


so he comes preaching to be the savior of Man.(HOPE & CHANGE)


but speaks as a Dragon.


Biblical definition of Dragon

2nd esdras

28 Behold an horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east:
29 Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble.
30 Also the Carmanians raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians.
31 And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature; and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them,
32 Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee.





The Second beast

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb (CHRIST), and he spake as a dragon (MUSLIM).
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America is babylon and will be destroyed by Almighty God

America is not eternal

The end of the world is coming
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you are wrong america is not babylon


you have to go to Isiah 25 to understand who is America
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To the Church in Laodicea
…15I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other. 16So because you are lukewarm — neither hot nor cold — I am about to spit you out of My mouth! 17You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.…

God is not happy with christians
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all the cities in babylon in the bible

that speak about babylon are in Saudi Arabia..
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God separated the languages in ancient babel to separate the races and today all the races and tongues live in America the melting pot

America is modern day babylon
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To the Church in Laodicea
…15I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other. 16So because you are lukewarm — neither hot nor cold — I am about to spit you out of My mouth! 17You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.…

God is not happy with christians
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the church of Laodicea is in Turkey
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God separated the languages in ancient babel to separate the races and today all the races and tongues live in America the melting pot

America is modern day babylon
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nope America speaks one common language.. English

by that reasoning Europe is babylon because they

are a land of Many nations and tongues.
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all the cities mentioned in the destruction of babylon

are in Saudi Arabia.. The mother of all whores! which

hasn't happened yet


Babylon is Fallen
1The burden of the desert of the sea. As whirlwinds in the south pass through; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land.

2A grievous vision is declared unto me; the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously, and the spoiler spoileth. Go up, O Elam: besiege, O Media; all the sighing thereof have I made to cease.

3Therefore are my loins filled with pain: pangs have taken hold upon me, as the pangs of a woman that travaileth: I was bowed down at the hearing of it; I was dismayed at the seeing of it.

4My heart panted, fearfulness affrighted me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into fear unto me.

5Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.

6For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.

7And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed:

8And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:

9And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.

10O my threshing, and the corn of my floor: that which I have heard of the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you.

A Prophecy against Edom
11The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night? Watchman, what of the night?

12The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will inquire, inquire ye: return, come.

A Prophecy against Arabia
13The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

14The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.

15For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

16For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: 17And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it.
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islam the mother of harlots..
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Believers, You need to learn the Ways of Daniel now! And Live as he did in the land of Babylon. Even people who call themselves Christians are turning. An Evil Day is upon us.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


well 2nd thessalonians says there will be a great falling away

from the law, then comes the antichrist..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


The falling away has already occurred and the Antichrist, in the person of Obama, has been revealed. You have to be spiritually blind not to see it by now!
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Nope the Man of Sin is revealed after the Restrainer is removed. He is still here. How do I know. He lives in my heart.

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Watch for the one who Teaches against God's law..

i.e. Gay marriage, Transgenderism, not eating meat...


LOL
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Passover lamb aside, there's no law against abstaining from meat.
 Quoting: Monotheism


no the antichrist in 2nd thessalonians teaches the doctrine

of not eating meat..

Its called the doctrines of devils
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Actually the word "meat" is a more archaic form of "food". The word translated is bromaton, meaning just food, as sorts. The Greek word for the flesh of animals, "sarx", is not used in that verse (1 Timothy 4:3). Abstaining from foods sounds more like the practise of ascetism found in Gnosticism at the times.

Speaking of abstaining from certain meat however...

But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. Revelation 2:14

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Watch for the one who Teaches against God's law..

i.e. Gay marriage, Transgenderism, not eating meat...


LOL
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Passover lamb aside, there's no law against abstaining from meat.
 Quoting: Monotheism


no the antichrist in 2nd thessalonians teaches the doctrine

of not eating meat..

Its called the doctrines of devils
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


Actually the word "meat" is a more archaic form of "food". The word translated is bromaton, meaning just food, as sorts. The Greek word for the flesh of animals, "sarx", is not used in that verse (1 Timothy 4:3). Abstaining from foods sounds more like the practise of ascetism found in Gnosticism at the times.

Speaking of abstaining from certain meat however...

But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. Revelation 2:14

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no read the rest of the verse he is specific about

animals being killed.
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islam the mother of harlots..
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Yet, no one in the prophecy arena has even raised a single red flag about the significance of this report; Iran (biblical Elam) must destroy Arabia. In Isaiah 21:9, Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against Babylon using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2)
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islam the mother of harlots..
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Yet, no one in the prophecy arena has even raised a single red flag about the significance of this report; Iran (biblical Elam) must destroy Arabia. In Isaiah 21:9, Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against Babylon using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2)
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babylon will be destroyed after the fall of Syria

by Iran!

its coming just watch
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I'm not going to argue. I don't care if you don't believe that America is babylon
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islam the mother of harlots..
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Yet, no one in the prophecy arena has even raised a single red flag about the significance of this report; Iran (biblical Elam) must destroy Arabia. In Isaiah 21:9, Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against Babylon using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2)
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babylon will be destroyed after the fall of Syria

by Iran!

its coming just watch
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I agree 100 per cent
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I'm not going to argue. I don't care if you don't believe that America is babylon
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prove me wrong with scripture and verse.

otherwise you are spewing hot air and your opinion

and a bad one at that.


Islam is the mother of harlots.
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Russia is going to destroy America
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islam the mother of harlots..
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Yet, no one in the prophecy arena has even raised a single red flag about the significance of this report; Iran (biblical Elam) must destroy Arabia. In Isaiah 21:9, Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against Babylon using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


babylon will be destroyed after the fall of Syria

by Iran!

its coming just watch
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I agree 100 per cent
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scripture says The King of Persia will surround Babylon

and attack it like a hurricane.

You know like Iran is doing now to Iran..



It's impossible for iran to attack america.

they are 12,000 miles away

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Russia is going to destroy America
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america is not babylon you retard..
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here is what happens to America and the rest of the world

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City built on seven hills. Colors of purple and scarlet. Blasphemies spoken in the name of Christ. The mother of all false religions. Uses a golden chalice.

The Bible is really clear on who Babylon is in the end. Tje Vatican. The antichrist comes from Europe and the False Prophet will likely be the Pope himself.

Google a woman rides the Beast on youtube, Dave Hunt. It is very clear.

America is not a big player in the end times. Though this country has attained power and wealth, over the last few decades we have turned into worlds largest debtor nation, and it would appear according to Revelation that the USA is either destroyed or massively weakened by the time the Tribulation starts.
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Passover lamb aside, there's no law against abstaining from meat.
 Quoting: Monotheism


no the antichrist in 2nd thessalonians teaches the doctrine

of not eating meat..

Its called the doctrines of devils
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


Actually the word "meat" is a more archaic form of "food". The word translated is bromaton, meaning just food, as sorts. The Greek word for the flesh of animals, "sarx", is not used in that verse (1 Timothy 4:3). Abstaining from foods sounds more like the practise of ascetism found in Gnosticism at the times.

Speaking of abstaining from certain meat however...

But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. Revelation 2:14

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 Quoting: Monotheism


no read the rest of the verse he is specific about

animals being killed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48508523


Which verse? Well Paul also said you can eat meat sacrifices to idol. Jesus says it's a no-no. Speaking of dietary advice that is. I don't think anyone can call God's original diet the doctrine of devils however.





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