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It's all for naught, you know. This fight.

 
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The monster isn’t the technology it’s the psychopaths who have risen to the top of the power structure. I don’t know how that can be prevented. A regular purging of those parasites needs to take place. As I see it currently there is no arm of government that can be trusted to have the best interests of the citizens at heart.
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retraction... wrong picture was put up
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Lol. "A hundred lightning fast drones run by A.I."

They sure do pretend to be far more high tech than they actually are. Probably a good basic defense strategy. Also keeps the sheep fooled, thinking that we are the shit. Instead of just some shit beimg monitored by more intelligent beings.

Did I mention there is no god? Sorry..

Take a look at these high tech "drones" the government uses. Just Google search an image. Back in the day we called these remote controlled aeroplanes.

The biggest difference is that they arm them and put cameras on them. They can fly longer, blah blah blah.

It's stiil just a remote controlled aeroplane. They can't do fancy maneuvers. They aren't lightning fast.

They just look like big hunks of shit with wings.

Zippidy do dah.
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Chin up old boy. There's fight left in us yet.
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Oh, I know man. There's a lot to do between here and there. A hallway with a lot of doors.

But tonight, my eyes seem to only focus on the one at the end. That's why I'm trying to blur by vision.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yeah .. I feel for ya. I'm drinking rum tonite cuz I'm all out of vodka and tequila.

Your dilemma is that you see things too clearly and, fitted into The Big Picture, as it causes a rather bleak future to emerge.

I'm in the same boat.

What are the solutions?

If Evil wants you dead or enslaved, how do you stop it?

We know that the dominant religion in the US is Materialism - fueled by ego.

When you control Materialism, you control the masses.

And when you teach the youth to rely and demand ever-newer variants in/of technology, you setting yourself up for all the ramifications of reliance of and VULNERABILITY to that accepted modality.

Will sufficient technology emerge to defeat new technology, in the hands of the PTB, working their wet-dream reduction-agenda?

Each human has to be made aware of who and what they are.

That is where the real fight will be fought...
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In my reality we come to a timeline shift. you can pick the Earth you want, this one, or 2.0, the win win scenario.
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I choose the awakening timeline where the bankers are ousted from control. The Republic is restored, hidden technologies are released for the benefit of humanity, and people no longer live in fear.
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Your dilemma is that you see things too clearly and, fitted into The Big Picture, as it causes a rather bleak future to emerge.

I'm in the same boat.

What are the solutions?

If Evil wants you dead or enslaved, how do you stop it?
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All you can do is resist. As long as there is air in your lungs.

You may find that some day, your only weapon is your body. And maybe not a knife, or your fists, maybe by then you will be a feeble old man.

But your breath will be in defiance of the evil they sow. So until your last one, make it still be against their will.

Some day that might be all we have.
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Take a look at these high tech "drones" the government uses. Just Google search an image. Back in the day we called these remote controlled aeroplanes.

The biggest difference is that they arm them and put cameras on them. They can fly longer, blah blah blah.

It's stiil just a remote controlled aeroplane. They can't do fancy maneuvers. They aren't lightning fast.

They just look like big hunks of shit with wings.

Zippidy do dah.
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Dude, we're fucked... imagine these things fitted with tazers designed to kill not stun.

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The only thing that can possibly defeat all of their technology, mercenaries, and fire power is an idea...
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I've come up with a lot of great ideas while drunk... sadly I never remember them the next day. I wish I planned this, I would have had something better than rotgut vodka on hand.

But to get back to your point, you're right. But I fear that idea won't come along until things have been bad for a LONG time.

In the future, the rebel will be different. Not a ragtag militia with AK's run and gunning from alley to alley. They will be digital warriors.

But how does an idea get spread, in a future where the government has total and instant control over the flow of information?

Supercomputers will be consuming megawatts, maybe gigawatts of power trying to stop that idea, to stop ANY idea.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I'm not sure why Wordsworth, but you just made me think of the old movie Fahrenheit 451.

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Your dilemma is that you see things too clearly and, fitted into The Big Picture, as it causes a rather bleak future to emerge.

I'm in the same boat.

What are the solutions?

If Evil wants you dead or enslaved, how do you stop it?
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All you can do is resist. As long as there is air in your lungs.

You may find that some day, your only weapon is your body. And maybe not a knife, or your fists, maybe by then you will be a feeble old man.

But your breath will be in defiance of the evil they sow. So until your last one, make it still be against their will.

Some day that might be all we have.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” - Mario Savio
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I'm not a blanket racist, I'm really not, but this is how I see it:

I know this is going to get slammed, but I think this is all part of a white genocide. This is the final push. So do we sit back and let ourselves get fucked up, or do we bite back with a vengeance? The problem is we can't fight at the moment because we are the ones holding all the jobs, well mostly whites hold the jobs.

We could bring the system down if we stopped working. Are you willing to do this?
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


Ah, the Ayn Rand scenario. Did it work in the book? I never finished it.

hmm
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I don't know I never read the book. I just came to this conclusion by thinking on your scenarios.
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I'm not sure why Wordsworth, but you just made me think of the old movie Fahrenheit 451.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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But the "Firemen" will be algorithms, without conscience or reason.

damned
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"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” - Mario Savio
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:jay:
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I'm not sure why Wordsworth, but you just made me think of the old movie Fahrenheit 451.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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But the "Firemen" will be algorithms, without conscience or reason.

damned
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*Cheers* Sipping whiskey here in Maine.

hf
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Take a look at these high tech "drones" the government uses. Just Google search an image. Back in the day we called these remote controlled aeroplanes.

The biggest difference is that they arm them and put cameras on them. They can fly longer, blah blah blah.

It's stiil just a remote controlled aeroplane. They can't do fancy maneuvers. They aren't lightning fast.

They just look like big hunks of shit with wings.

Zippidy do dah.
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Dude, we're fucked... imagine these things fitted with tazers designed to kill not stun.


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Lol.

Rediculous. You are kidding right?
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*Cheers* Sipping whiskey here in Maine.
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hf
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some will have the protection of God and weather any storm even radiation
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hesright
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if this is our future then we need to go back to the stone age again and start over. although many would die, an EMP event on a national level would be our savior, for humanities sake
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400 nuke plants say that you are insane. Every human will be dead within five years due to bio-accumulation of radioactivity. World wide only the youngest that give birth will survive. What age is that, maybe 8 years old? Even that will be too long.

Eventually the human race will give birth within the first year of life. At that point humans will be just another animal. Like all other dead within tend years because of bio-acumulation of radioactivity.

When the radioactivity lethality no allow longer prevents extended lifetimes, in 500,000 years perhaps, humans will again live longer and restart the cycle of destruction.
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Dude, we're fucked... imagine these things fitted with tazers designed to kill not stun.

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 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Lol.

Rediculous. You are kidding right?
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Go ahead and keep thinking that. Some day, you will hear an odd buzzing sound. Then silence.

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I'm not saying don't. I'm not saying give in. We have to resist, even if that resistance will be lost in the sands of time.

But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


They probably won't make any big moves right now, you can't abolish the 2nd amendment because of an ISIS attack... that wouldn't fly. But the next time, and there will be a next time, this will be more ammo in their magazine. Maybe we can put it off for a while... They won't be able to get anything big through before the election. And if Trump wins and we can hang on to the Senate, that buys us two years hopefully. Maybe that's time enough for things to get sorted out, but I fear not. A critical mass has been reached, the American psyche damaged... I don't think this bell can be unrung. And many states will likely act on their own with less resistance.

But let's just stipulate that we do hang onto our current gun rights at least on a federal level, and look a bit further down the road. Look at the exponential rate of growth in technology. Look at what drones can do today, and then imagine what they will do 20 years from now.

How long before advanced supercomputers can identify free thinkers that are a threat to the state's power? Are we already there now?

Do you think your AR with a 30rd mag will be worth much against an swarm of 100 lightning fast armed drones controlled by advanced AI that can think 1000 times faster than you can?

Where will you hide when every public space has facial/DNA recognition equipment?

What will become of a nation who's government has that kind of power? Is it possible for this not to end badly?


We have come to far, too fast. Not that I agree with what he did, but Kaczynski was right. Like Frankenstein, we created a monster simply because we could and set loose on the world. And like him we will die trying to stop it, some day.

I didn't start this thread to debate these facts, because I feel they are facts. Feel free to discuss among yourselves, but me... I'm going to get drunk tonight. Hard booze, no time to fuck around. Join me if you like...

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



~joining in on the spirits OP~

in the battle of good vrs evil ~
good is gasping its final breath. IMHO.


so yea.
i join you in the drink.


sad reality.
very sad reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72060870


I'll tell you what the difference is between us and them:

We, the good, hate to bring down punishment unless absolutely necessary. I don't want to hurt anyone.

They, the evil, take pride in their bullying and forcefulness. They have so much pride in their selves they won't take no for an answer and would rather kill us than let us live peacefully alone, and not even interacting with them. We could go off into the sunset and they would follow us!

I go back to the white genocide. Look how many whites are left on this earth. Someone at GLP did a recent calculation and I think the total was like 800 million currently and in a hundred years, about 250 million. Why can't we be left alone? I don't want to be pushed into a corner.
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Dude, we're fucked... imagine these things fitted with tazers designed to kill not stun.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Lol.

Rediculous. You are kidding right?
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Go ahead and keep thinking that. Some day, you will hear an odd buzzing sound. Then silence.


 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


That was nice.

hf
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They have time on their side... every time a freedom is taken away, it never comes back.

5 years, 10 years, 15 years, does it matter? It's all the same in the end. And they have a backup plan.
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Re: It's all for naught, you know. This fight.
I go back to the white genocide. Look how many whites are left on this earth. Someone at GLP did a recent calculation and I think the total was like 800 million currently and in a hundred years, about 250 million. Why can't we be left alone? I don't want to be pushed into a corner.
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They need to stop the people who can stop them.
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They have time on their side... every time a freedom is taken away, it never comes back.

5 years, 10 years, 15 years, does it matter? It's all the same in the end. And they have a backup plan.
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I bet they have more than one backup plan.
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I go back to the white genocide. Look how many whites are left on this earth. Someone at GLP did a recent calculation and I think the total was like 800 million currently and in a hundred years, about 250 million. Why can't we be left alone? I don't want to be pushed into a corner.
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They need to stop the people who can stop them.
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if this is our future then we need to go back to the stone age again and start over. although many would die, an EMP event on a national level would be our savior, for humanities sake
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400 nuke plants say that you are insane. Every human will be dead within five years due to bio-accumulation of radioactivity. World wide only the youngest that give birth will survive. What age is that, maybe 8 years old? Even that will be too long.

Eventually the human race will give birth within the first year of life. At that point humans will be just another animal. Like all other dead within tend years because of bio-acumulation of radioactivity.

When the radioactivity lethality no allow longer prevents extended lifetimes, in 500,000 years perhaps, humans will again live longer and restart the cycle of destruction.
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insanity is building a nuke plant in the first place! like i said earlier, the back up plan is a generator to cool the reactors for SEVEN DAYS

thank god nothing ever goes wrong, especially with nuke plants. our future is cast
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Our rights are ours from birth, only enumerated in The Constitution.
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There was an advertisement for a Phantom 4 drone on YouTube when I was looking for this video. They're watching.

I made a thread a long time ago before I was a member, about how things are going to start happening faster now. That we need to be ready. It came to pass, even if it was a bit slower than I thought.

Thread: Minutes before the fall (A drink before the war)

It's going to get intense, just remember... no matter what happens don't lose yourself.

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But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


No, we don't lose.

We win.

Read your Bible. The final battle will be won by Christ and His army.
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But eventually, we lose. In every scenario I can think of but one.


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No, we don't lose.

We win.

Read your Bible. The final battle will be won by Christ and His army.
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tick tick tick tick
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