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Gun Control? Dangerous People Control And Security Measures Is What We Need | |
| Zoowatcher2 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 68851417  United States06/13/2016 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 39834772 United States06/13/2016 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a post on gun control. Quoting: Zoowatcher2 Think of it as a post on "dangerous people control". I want to ask many of the forum members who are educated gun owners - or are at least people who at bare minimum support the 2nd amendment. We agree something needs to change to protect our rights for gun ownership and still keep truly dangerous people away weapons that may hurt innocent people and in turn damaging our rights by association. Something needs to be done. But the liberal answer is not the answer for "gun control". It immediately has negative reactions for obvious reasons. If there could be a way to create a REAL notification system for gun shops to be alerted of someone who has been reported as a threat to themselves and others as dangerous, that would be an ideal solution. My concern is who will do this reporting and what would be their criteria to make such a determination? It is a very thin line and there is always a potential for abuse, the mental health workers would need to be monitored for careful documentation. And how quickly could this information be transmitted to prevent tragedy realistically? Make no mistake, there are over 300 million guns in our country bought legally for self protection. Yesterday, 299,999,999 gun owners harmed absolutely no one in a club massacre. One man has us all talking and living in fear we could lose our rights to safely own and maintain our gun rights. I would really like to be part of the solution if possible. There is also a shit ton of illegal guns out there. Nope, the solution is more guns, not less. |
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| Zoowatcher2 (OP) User ID: 68851417 United States06/13/2016 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a post on gun control. Quoting: Zoowatcher2 Think of it as a post on "dangerous people control". I want to ask many of the forum members who are educated gun owners - or are at least people who at bare minimum support the 2nd amendment. We agree something needs to change to protect our rights for gun ownership and still keep truly dangerous people away weapons that may hurt innocent people and in turn damaging our rights by association. Something needs to be done. But the liberal answer is not the answer for "gun control". It immediately has negative reactions for obvious reasons. If there could be a way to create a REAL notification system for gun shops to be alerted of someone who has been reported as a threat to themselves and others as dangerous, that would be an ideal solution. My concern is who will do this reporting and what would be their criteria to make such a determination? It is a very thin line and there is always a potential for abuse, the mental health workers would need to be monitored for careful documentation. And how quickly could this information be transmitted to prevent tragedy realistically? Make no mistake, there are over 300 million guns in our country bought legally for self protection. Yesterday, 299,999,999 gun owners harmed absolutely no one in a club massacre. One man has us all talking and living in fear we could lose our rights to safely own and maintain our gun rights. I would really like to be part of the solution if possible. There is also a shit ton of illegal guns out there. Nope, the solution is more guns, not less. Which is one of my points. Before the government starts saying the registry and background checks are not working - and then decides to do a wide ban of guns, etc. Considering the latest extremist bought his guns and he was cleared and approved to do so. Understand how that could come in to play? We need to be proactive in a solution. "What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly?” The monkeys are running the zoo. Don't let anyone dull your sparkle. |
| Zoowatcher2 (OP) User ID: 68851417 United States06/13/2016 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do away with gun free zones and make conceal carry constitutional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70749387 Cowards who know everyone has a gun where he is going will not conduct such ill behavior. Because he is .....a coward. Exactly! Advertising gun free zones is just pure insanity. Why not send out engraved invitations to the idiots. Shaking head in pure frustration.. "What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly?” The monkeys are running the zoo. Don't let anyone dull your sparkle. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States06/13/2016 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world is a dangerous place. Get over it, stop with the false "I am all about rights and freedom, but we got to do something!" UTTER CRAP! People are voilent, sick, greedy creatures and no law or control over any thing will stop that, ever. I will not give up one more damn thing to this over reaching, criminal, insane government. Policticians are the worst group of thugs on this planet and I will not be held accoutable for their crimes or yours. Sorry Op, not one more inch from me, I will not comply nor will I give up any more for your insane ideas that me giving up my rights makes the world a better place. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17911585 United States06/13/2016 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We could all put on straightjackets! But who's going to put the last guy's jacket on? At that point, we're all at his mercy. It works the same for guns--the one you have to watch most is the guy taking them all--who will be able to take his when they are all taken? |
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ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 72091327 United States06/13/2016 08:21 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban Dems and Muslims from owning guns. Mass-shootings vanish overnight. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800  The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Zoowatcher2 (OP) User ID: 68851417 United States06/13/2016 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do we fix this real problem? The horse is already out of the barn. "What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly?” The monkeys are running the zoo. Don't let anyone dull your sparkle. |
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| ac User ID: 71920217 United States06/13/2016 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are looking at this situation from a position given to you by the propaganda machine. We know these so called terrorists can't exist without funding from some source. They need weapons, transportation, social media, the ability to travel and many more things that any normal army would need. Where is it coming from? Focus on cutting these sources and you won't have to worry about the political theatre. Cut off their funding and they are done. Find out who is doing it and expose them. This is a much better use of time then trying to convince the corrupt officials. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72372412 United States06/13/2016 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a post on gun control. Quoting: Zoowatcher2 Think of it as a post on "dangerous people control". I want to ask many of the forum members who are educated gun owners - or are at least people who at bare minimum support the 2nd amendment. We agree something needs to change to protect our rights for gun ownership and still keep truly dangerous people away weapons that may hurt innocent people and in turn damaging our rights by association. Something needs to be done. But the liberal answer is not the answer for "gun control". It immediately has negative reactions for obvious reasons. If there could be a way to create a REAL notification system for gun shops to be alerted of someone who has been reported as a threat to themselves and others as dangerous, that would be an ideal solution. My concern is who will do this reporting and what would be their criteria to make such a determination? It is a very thin line and there is always a potential for abuse, the mental health workers would need to be monitored for careful documentation. And how quickly could this information be transmitted to prevent tragedy realistically? Make no mistake, there are over 300 million guns in our country bought legally for self protection. Yesterday, 299,999,999 gun owners harmed absolutely no one in a club massacre. One man has us all talking and living in fear we could lose our rights to safely own and maintain our gun rights. I would really like to be part of the solution if possible. How about a massive class action lawsuit against Hollywood, the libtard media and libtard politicians for orchestrating the cultural rot that has led total dysfunction. They wanted God removed from everything. They wanted multiculturalism. They fill our airwaves with a non-stop menu of filth, social decay, hedonism and perversion. They bathe all facets of society in moral relativism so a pervert who wants to dress in women's clothes and take pisses next to little girls is virtuous, but an intact family who attempts to raise their children as decent, productive citizens is looked upon with derision. We are living in garbage amongst more than one generation who know nothing better than garbage. There is no more saving this shit. Its time to talk about dividing up the country so people who actually understand the brilliance of America's founding can live to their full potential. Just the simple act of getting away from the libtards and the human trash they create would reduce the need to even own a gun by about 99%.  |
| Loup Garou User ID: 70668578 United States06/13/2016 10:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  If a few people in the nightclub would have been armed, I assure there would be a different outcome. Here in Louisiana, we shoot back. Just saying. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
| Sir dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 72386358 United States06/13/2016 10:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats commit 75% or more of the murders in America every year. Democrats commit 95% or more of the mass killings in America every year. America has a Democrat problem. Socialists have murdered 240,000,000 people. Islamics have murdered 270,000,000 people. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72353316  Puerto Rico06/13/2016 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban police from Having guns ! US law enforcement officers killed up to 1,199 people last year, the majority of whom were 'people of color'. According to the open-source reporting project Killed by Police, 574 of those who died were minorities, 511 were white, and 107 undetermined. 515 were white !!!!!! no black lives matter here ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72386560 United States06/13/2016 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11 Radical Islamists were also indicted more frequently than non-Muslim extremists and served longer sentences Since 9/11, white right-wing terrorists have killed almost twice as many Americans in homegrown attacks than radical Islamists have, according to research by the New America Foundation. In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11. The study also found that the criminal justice system judged jihadists more harshly than their non-Muslim counterparts, indicting them more frequently than non-jihadists and handing down longer sentences. See the full breakdown of the numbers here: [link to securitydata.newamerica.net] |
| Zoowatcher2 (OP) User ID: 68851417 United States06/13/2016 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I said, the liberal point of view is not what we need. I can't believe there aren't any real answers? People want to bitch and complain but offer no real credible way to change this and keep our gun rights intact. If we lose the right to gun ownership, we only have ourselves to blame by not doing something. Rioting after the fact will only get you dead. "What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly?” The monkeys are running the zoo. Don't let anyone dull your sparkle. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72264577 United States06/13/2016 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you propose? Psychiatry? Drug everyone up or put them in hospitals? Violate people's basic human rights? Because they might do something...Screw you OP. You can never control anyone or prevent anything from happening...unless you lock someone up for life. This is why I hate psychiatry, you don't help or prevent anything, but you do make things a million times worse. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71005937  Singapore06/13/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11 Radical Islamists were also indicted more frequently than non-Muslim extremists and served longer sentences Since 9/11, white right-wing terrorists have killed almost twice as many Americans in homegrown attacks than radical Islamists have, according to research by the New America Foundation. In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11. The study also found that the criminal justice system judged jihadists more harshly than their non-Muslim counterparts, indicting them more frequently than non-jihadists and handing down longer sentences. See the full breakdown of the numbers here: [link to securitydata.newamerica.net] Well, up until Saturday anyway. :( |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71690411 United States06/13/2016 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11 Radical Islamists were also indicted more frequently than non-Muslim extremists and served longer sentences Since 9/11, white right-wing terrorists have killed almost twice as many Americans in homegrown attacks than radical Islamists have, according to research by the New America Foundation. In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11. The study also found that the criminal justice system judged jihadists more harshly than their non-Muslim counterparts, indicting them more frequently than non-jihadists and handing down longer sentences. See the full breakdown of the numbers here: [link to securitydata.newamerica.net] Ya, I have heard these lies before. Sandy Hook probably real in your world too. Boston bombing perhaps? Still trying to figure out how debris came towards the explosive detonation myself. So fake news and? |
| Zoowatcher2 (OP) User ID: 68851417 United States06/13/2016 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you propose? Psychiatry? Drug everyone up or put them in hospitals? Violate people's basic human rights? Because they might do something...Screw you OP. You can never control anyone or prevent anything from happening...unless you lock someone up for life. This is why I hate psychiatry, you don't help or prevent anything, but you do make things a million times worse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72264577 Psychiatry? Lol No. You didn't offer any real ideas either. But thank you playing. "What if I fall? Oh, but my darling, what if you fly?” The monkeys are running the zoo. Don't let anyone dull your sparkle. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72353316 Puerto Rico06/13/2016 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in Puerto Rico My son was Executed in my Own home , he had no chance because the gun law here says guns must be kept Unloaded .. All my guns were confiscated , not returned because the FUCKING feds say this is not an state , but yet force gay rights deep throat into us yet 2nd here is toilet paper as politicians here are fucking cowards ! Judges are also fucking assholes & you cant trust police My son murderers Are now dead As they lived they died ! No investigation, no communication & total suppression of rights ! we are the experiment,America will be the field Application! |
| goldielucks User ID: 69295382 United States06/13/2016 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are looking at this situation from a position given to you by the propaganda machine. Quoting: ac 71920217 We know these so called terrorists can't exist without funding from some source. They need weapons, transportation, social media, the ability to travel and many more things that any normal army would need. Where is it coming from? Focus on cutting these sources and you won't have to worry about the political theatre. Cut off their funding and they are done. Find out who is doing it and expose them. This is a much better use of time then trying to convince the corrupt officials.  Seek out security and its details and you'll find the answer... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68760602 United States06/13/2016 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a post on gun control. Quoting: Zoowatcher2 Think of it as a post on "dangerous people control". I want to ask many of the forum members who are educated gun owners - or are at least people who at bare minimum support the 2nd amendment. We agree something needs to change to protect our rights for gun ownership and still keep truly dangerous people away weapons that may hurt innocent people and in turn damaging our rights by association. Something needs to be done. But the liberal answer is not the answer for "gun control". It immediately has negative reactions for obvious reasons. If there could be a way to create a REAL notification system for gun shops to be alerted of someone who has been reported as a threat to themselves and others as dangerous, that would be an ideal solution. My concern is who will do this reporting and what would be their criteria to make such a determination? It is a very thin line and there is always a potential for abuse, the mental health workers would need to be monitored for careful documentation. And how quickly could this information be transmitted to prevent tragedy realistically? Make no mistake, there are over 300 million guns in our country bought legally for self protection. Yesterday, 299,999,999 gun owners harmed absolutely no one in a club massacre. One man has us all talking and living in fear we could lose our rights to safely own and maintain our gun rights. I would really like to be part of the solution if possible. I had this exact conversation with a friend of mine earlier today. Will be damn near impossible to control guns 100%, I agree we need to make it tougher but we really need to focus on scene control and people control and those 2 items will be just as tough. |
