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The US Navy just developed an answer to one of the biggest threats from Russia and China

 
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LOL, umm yeah..It couldn't even hit a fucking boat....A joke.
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The video portrays the Phalanx system (20mm cannon). That system couldn't hit a rubber boat. At the end of the video, it shows the SeaRAM system.....

Looks like there are only 6 launch tubes. Hopefully they are replenished quickly for fast launch times....
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Unfortuntly in soviet navy was incident when P-120 missile himself targeting our missile corvette Nanuchka class. Corvett made hit in P-120 from SAM SA-N-4. 2 missiles Osa can hit P-120. Missile continue incoming to target. After it ship start firing from AK-725 - from 8 to 10 shell hits to missile. 57mm shell. Result - missile hit corvette and ship sunk.

This missile not have armor total. SeaRAM in 3 time weak than Osa missile (SA-N-4). So heavy anti-ship missile can not see hit (if can) US SeaRAM missile.

During 1998 year in Northern fleet was training firing aganst P-500 missile.

S-300F SAM system - 1 missile - hit. P-500 continue fly.
Osa-MA SAM system - 2 missile - 2 hits. P-500 continue fly more.
AK-130 - this 130mm twin gun - shells exploding near missile - missile continue fly. Shore base say, that missile answer and translate information from to shore.
AK-630 (2 battaries - 4x6 30mm guns) - all hit - missile continue fly and fly above Kirov.

How can SeaRAM shot down this missile? It is impossible total.
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lmao do you believe your own bullshit?
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It is two real facts only. Google in help about sinking Nanuchka class corvette.
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All Google will tell me is Russia saw what you are claiming and no one else did. Like all the rest of Russias PROOF. Look you're playing with the big boys here. We can do math too. You got shit and you know it. And so do we. If you had it you would show it and not talk about it.
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Even the Aussie's aren't scared of it and have the technical data...

[link to www.ausairpower.net]
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The problem is they'd need 10 of these running at once for just a single typical volley of an old granit etc. because they hunt in packs and come in from different directions and completely overwhelm any defensive armament. The window of interception is so small they simply can't handle it especially with the new ones that do mach 3+. Meanwhile there is a backfire bomber and a shore launched, and a sub doing the same thing at the same time... In China they have ones that fly in from orbit at something like mach 10 from straight above. A ship these days stands ZERO hope of any long term survival.
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THAAD, made to counter granit. You can call them p-?00 or s-?00 but they are the same missiles with secondary differences.

Like an m-16 vs ar-15. Betcha don't know the difference there either.
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Gloss over the point of the post and then wander into missile naming schemes and differences between a rifle? Great counterpoints bro.

Here's the deal - those ships will be cooked if they try to attack anything other than a banana republic or some african pirates.

Too many missiles, coming in from too many directions, going too fast = sunk. They simply can't cope with it.

Even the DoD itself has said that the lifespan of an aircraft carrier was around 2 or 3 hours at the onset of a real wat and that was in the early 1970's.

That stupid fucking gun will be on the bottom with the rest of it!

putin
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Scroll up. Your talking about a 70mm missile which are shot down by the us, russia and even fucking estonian's.

You don't know what your talking about at even a basic level.
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Tard - P-500 missile have 880mm airframe diametr. Inside warhead and control systems have 70mm armor. Parts plane airframe have 70mm armore like. I know many that know you.
SeaRAM can not penetrate armor anti-ship missile total. Next - P-500 missile have spee 2600 km/h. How many time need missile fly in firing range SeaRAM? Few seconds only.
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Meh, was supposed to be "70mm armored core missile which are shot down by the us, russia, and even fucking estonian's."

So if speed is the killer tell me how slow ass patriots knock shit with 100mm armored cores all the time? When something is coming at you and you detect better than 250 miles away and automated ststems engage to counter. That is minutes not seconds.

I really simplify it for you. You've got a car with an armored cab and engine that can go as fast as you'd like. You try to run me over and I only have a few seconds to react, but I shoot your tires (maneuvering surfaces in missile talk) but can't penetrate your core... what are the chances you are still going to be able to hit me or drive toward the same area? Small.

It's not always about blowing up the target, but rendering it inert or ineffective. Principle behind missile defense. Hence the minimum of three layer missile defense security.
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Missile homing system have armor like, but weak. And 20-30mm AP shells can penetrate armor homing system. And only. If S-300F missile explosion near missile homing sysytem not damage total. Need point hit in missile homing system.

And this I write about elderly anti-ship missile P-500, what now you can see in museum only.
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The p-500 is still in service and p-1000 is an updated version of that.

Still not addressing me blowing ofthe fins on your incoming WHATEVER.

Not mention te lasers we are now fielding that'll just cook the homing systems without blowing up the missile.
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Lmfao have you watched all that video , so the RAM struggles to hit a boat going ten mph and yet USA thinks it's an answer to Russian missles traveling 2000 plus , lmfao you need to go back to the drawing board
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It nailed the "boat" repeadedly you dumb ass. That thing is designed for target practice.

If there would have been men on that they would be dead. If that had been a real boat instead of almost solid target designed for practice it would have disabled it or sunk it. All Those Close CALLS Were hits. Do you have any idea how many bullets that thing shoots? If there is bullet spray on both sides it nailed the boat in between.
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Lol did it bollocks , pile of shit can't even hit an inflatable dingy with a 200 dollar engine , yet you think it's gona take a missle doing 2000 mph plus , fucking lunatics man ..

You got to think out the box , the hung Ho attitude clearly isn't working ,
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Yeah if I was you I would claim it wasnt exactly what it was too lol. What choice do you have? That gun shredded the target repeadedly.

Funny thing about the truth. It completely fucks up silly little desperate lies. Like magic. Now that I've told ppl what that target boat was and what it's designed for they'll go back and look and understand what they are seeing this time. A remote controlled target designed to take fire for target practice.

Because I think even our dumbest here understand that if the gun was really missing it's target it wouldn't have been allowed in the video.
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Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
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Tard - P-500 missile have 880mm airframe diametr. Inside warhead and control systems have 70mm armor. Parts plane airframe have 70mm armore like. I know many that know you.
SeaRAM can not penetrate armor anti-ship missile total. Next - P-500 missile have spee 2600 km/h. How many time need missile fly in firing range SeaRAM? Few seconds only.
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Meh, was supposed to be "70mm armored core missile which are shot down by the us, russia, and even fucking estonian's."

So if speed is the killer tell me how slow ass patriots knock shit with 100mm armored cores all the time? When something is coming at you and you detect better than 250 miles away and automated ststems engage to counter. That is minutes not seconds.

I really simplify it for you. You've got a car with an armored cab and engine that can go as fast as you'd like. You try to run me over and I only have a few seconds to react, but I shoot your tires (maneuvering surfaces in missile talk) but can't penetrate your core... what are the chances you are still going to be able to hit me or drive toward the same area? Small.

It's not always about blowing up the target, but rendering it inert or ineffective. Principle behind missile defense. Hence the minimum of three layer missile defense security.
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Missile homing system have armor like, but weak. And 20-30mm AP shells can penetrate armor homing system. And only. If S-300F missile explosion near missile homing sysytem not damage total. Need point hit in missile homing system.

And this I write about elderly anti-ship missile P-500, what now you can see in museum only.
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The p-500 is still in service and p-1000 is an updated version of that.

Still not addressing me blowing ofthe fins on your incoming WHATEVER.

Not mention te lasers we are now fielding that'll just cook the homing systems without blowing up the missile.
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P-500 was not in service now. So all ships and subs for P-500 now or scrapping or modernisation in P-1000 missile.
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lmao do you believe your own bullshit?
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It is two real facts only. Google in help about sinking Nanuchka class corvette.
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All Google will tell me is Russia saw what you are claiming and no one else did. Like all the rest of Russias PROOF. Look you're playing with the big boys here. We can do math too. You got shit and you know it. And so do we. If you had it you would show it and not talk about it.
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Even the Aussie's aren't scared of it and have the technical data...

[link to www.ausairpower.net]
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That's because our Russian friend is full of shit and all of Russias "new tech" is their old tech with a new paint job and some minor upgrades and they don't have a carrier killer because it's not possible to make what they claim to have. Which is why they won't show it because if they did America would back off. Russia is screwed because the big boys will call your bluff and Russia lives off the bluff.


It's really simple how Rusdia and Chinese propaganda work.

They ask themselves what would we need to sink a carrier with one shot. So thier engineers come up with a giant fucking torpedo that goes +mach3. Not the actual torpedo, just the idea of one that would beat our defenses if it exidted and they could build it.

Then they run with that lime they already have it hoping the fear of its existence scares us into believing it. Problem is we have our own engineers and all our allies engineers too.

They looked at the claims and said "pffffft whatever bitches that's impossible. Prove it".

They never did and can't so we move forward with real information. The fact they don't have these weapons and if they do they can't do what they say they can do.
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The problem is they'd need 10 of these running at once for just a single typical volley of an old granit etc. because they hunt in packs and come in from different directions and completely overwhelm any defensive armament. The window of interception is so small they simply can't handle it especially with the new ones that do mach 3+. Meanwhile there is a backfire bomber and a shore launched, and a sub doing the same thing at the same time... In China they have ones that fly in from orbit at something like mach 10 from straight above. A ship these days stands ZERO hope of any long term survival.
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THAAD, made to counter granit. You can call them p-?00 or s-?00 but they are the same missiles with secondary differences.

Like an m-16 vs ar-15. Betcha don't know the difference there either.
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Gloss over the point of the post and then wander into missile naming schemes and differences between a rifle? Great counterpoints bro.

Here's the deal - those ships will be cooked if they try to attack anything other than a banana republic or some african pirates.

Too many missiles, coming in from too many directions, going too fast = sunk. They simply can't cope with it.

Even the DoD itself has said that the lifespan of an aircraft carrier was around 2 or 3 hours at the onset of a real wat and that was in the early 1970's.

That stupid fucking gun will be on the bottom with the rest of it!

putin
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Lol. Yes let's quote the 1970s. I guess you missed this post on page two...

Not according the Rand corp. think tank, both NATO and USA have virtually no chance against Russia/China.
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You are such a shill. I read a report from Rand corp called "U.S. and Chinese Air Superiority Capabilities
An Assessment of Relative Advantage, 1996–2017" which is available for the public just google it.

A lot of the assertion is that they acknowledge the improvement of Chinese military capabilities BUT
"...results should be understood in context. China CANNOT achieve air superiority in any of these cases, and U.S. fighters achieve high kill ratios throughout. Relaxing the 21-day time requirement would reduce U.S. in-theater force requirements to levels that might be supported more easily by the available basing infrastructure." (Less than 50% rule)

Don't really need to be worried about Russians tbh.. That's what nato+eu was created for.
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Tard - P-500 missile have 880mm airframe diametr. Inside warhead and control systems have 70mm armor. Parts plane airframe have 70mm armore like. I know many that know you.
SeaRAM can not penetrate armor anti-ship missile total. Next - P-500 missile have spee 2600 km/h. How many time need missile fly in firing range SeaRAM? Few seconds only.
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Meh, was supposed to be "70mm armored core missile which are shot down by the us, russia, and even fucking estonian's."

So if speed is the killer tell me how slow ass patriots knock shit with 100mm armored cores all the time? When something is coming at you and you detect better than 250 miles away and automated ststems engage to counter. That is minutes not seconds.

I really simplify it for you. You've got a car with an armored cab and engine that can go as fast as you'd like. You try to run me over and I only have a few seconds to react, but I shoot your tires (maneuvering surfaces in missile talk) but can't penetrate your core... what are the chances you are still going to be able to hit me or drive toward the same area? Small.

It's not always about blowing up the target, but rendering it inert or ineffective. Principle behind missile defense. Hence the minimum of three layer missile defense security.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71395241


Missile homing system have armor like, but weak. And 20-30mm AP shells can penetrate armor homing system. And only. If S-300F missile explosion near missile homing sysytem not damage total. Need point hit in missile homing system.

And this I write about elderly anti-ship missile P-500, what now you can see in museum only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72421358


The p-500 is still in service and p-1000 is an updated version of that.

Still not addressing me blowing ofthe fins on your incoming WHATEVER.

Not mention te lasers we are now fielding that'll just cook the homing systems without blowing up the missile.
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Lol the ram was on that film with the ships and aliens , warship ....

This ain't Hollywood son , this is real life and you cannot fuck with Russian missles , your billion dollar boats will be rolling in whale shit on the bottom of the sea in minutes
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And that's where the SeaRAM antiship cruise missile could potentially be a game changer. Building upon the already capable Phalanx close-in weapons system, a computer-controlled 20 mm gun system that automatically tracks and fires on incoming threats, the SeaRAM system simply replaces the gun with a rolling airframe missile launcher.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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And SeaRAM has successfully engaged Mach 2.5, sea skimming targets multiple times.

Does this mean we will be able to handle Brahmos and Sizzlers?
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Unless the Russians turn the power off, yes.
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
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So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
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It nailed the "boat" repeadedly you dumb ass. That thing is designed for target practice.

If there would have been men on that they would be dead. If that had been a real boat instead of almost solid target designed for practice it would have disabled it or sunk it. All Those Close CALLS Were hits. Do you have any idea how many bullets that thing shoots? If there is bullet spray on both sides it nailed the boat in between.
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Lol did it bollocks , pile of shit can't even hit an inflatable dingy with a 200 dollar engine , yet you think it's gona take a missle doing 2000 mph plus , fucking lunatics man ..

You got to think out the box , the hung Ho attitude clearly isn't working ,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72412468


Yeah if I was you I would claim it wasnt exactly what it was too lol. What choice do you have? That gun shredded the target repeadedly.

Funny thing about the truth. It completely fucks up silly little desperate lies. Like magic. Now that I've told ppl what that target boat was and what it's designed for they'll go back and look and understand what they are seeing this time. A remote controlled target designed to take fire for target practice.

Because I think even our dumbest here understand that if the gun was really missing it's target it wouldn't have been allowed in the video.
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Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
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You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Oh yes scary and all that.
The ship though...Can it move on its own?
Will it stay afloat in three foot swells?

Nice cherry on top though.
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It is two real facts only. Google in help about sinking Nanuchka class corvette.
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All Google will tell me is Russia saw what you are claiming and no one else did. Like all the rest of Russias PROOF. Look you're playing with the big boys here. We can do math too. You got shit and you know it. And so do we. If you had it you would show it and not talk about it.
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Even the Aussie's aren't scared of it and have the technical data...

[link to www.ausairpower.net]
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That's because our Russian friend is full of shit and all of Russias "new tech" is their old tech with a new paint job and some minor upgrades and they don't have a carrier killer because it's not possible to make what they claim to have. Which is why they won't show it because if they did America would back off. Russia is screwed because the big boys will call your bluff and Russia lives off the bluff.


It's really simple how Rusdia and Chinese propaganda work.

They ask themselves what would we need to sink a carrier with one shot. So thier engineers come up with a giant fucking torpedo that goes +mach3. Not the actual torpedo, just the idea of one that would beat our defenses if it exidted and they could build it.

Then they run with that lime they already have it hoping the fear of its existence scares us into believing it. Problem is we have our own engineers and all our allies engineers too.

They looked at the claims and said "pffffft whatever bitches that's impossible. Prove it".

They never did and can't so we move forward with real information. The fact they don't have these weapons and if they do they can't do what they say they can do.
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Now Russia have more deadly heavy anti-ship missiles: P-1000 Vulcan", "P-750-2 Granit-2". "P-500" is childe before "P-1000" or "P-750-2" missiles.

I simple say f.e. elderly missile for incoming in ship with SeaRAM missiles. Against modern heavy Russian anti-ship missiles situation would be more poor for USN.

So I not place data about modern missiles.
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The proof is in the pudding.

The USA backed out of attacking Syria via the Mediterranean and looked like total punks - why?

Why doesn't the USA park it's naval fleet in the Persian gulf and finish off Iran?

These are 2nd world countries - if these ships are so invincible what is the problem?

tard
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Lol did it bollocks , pile of shit can't even hit an inflatable dingy with a 200 dollar engine , yet you think it's gona take a missle doing 2000 mph plus , fucking lunatics man ..

You got to think out the box , the hung Ho attitude clearly isn't working ,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72412468


Yeah if I was you I would claim it wasnt exactly what it was too lol. What choice do you have? That gun shredded the target repeadedly.

Funny thing about the truth. It completely fucks up silly little desperate lies. Like magic. Now that I've told ppl what that target boat was and what it's designed for they'll go back and look and understand what they are seeing this time. A remote controlled target designed to take fire for target practice.

Because I think even our dumbest here understand that if the gun was really missing it's target it wouldn't have been allowed in the video.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72412468


You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Yeah, now try to go and hit a bunch of hypersonic missiles coming at you from several directions.
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The problem is they'd need 10 of these running at once for just a single typical volley of an old granit etc. because they hunt in packs and come in from different directions and completely overwhelm any defensive armament. The window of interception is so small they simply can't handle it especially with the new ones that do mach 3+. Meanwhile there is a backfire bomber and a shore launched, and a sub doing the same thing at the same time... In China they have ones that fly in from orbit at something like mach 10 from straight above. A ship these days stands ZERO hope of any long term survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71200287


THAAD, made to counter granit. You can call them p-?00 or s-?00 but they are the same missiles with secondary differences.

Like an m-16 vs ar-15. Betcha don't know the difference there either.
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Gloss over the point of the post and then wander into missile naming schemes and differences between a rifle? Great counterpoints bro.

Here's the deal - those ships will be cooked if they try to attack anything other than a banana republic or some african pirates.

Too many missiles, coming in from too many directions, going too fast = sunk. They simply can't cope with it.

Even the DoD itself has said that the lifespan of an aircraft carrier was around 2 or 3 hours at the onset of a real wat and that was in the early 1970's.

That stupid fucking gun will be on the bottom with the rest of it!

putin
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Lol. Yes let's quote the 1970s. I guess you missed this post on page two...

Not according the Rand corp. think tank, both NATO and USA have virtually no chance against Russia/China.
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You are such a shill. I read a report from Rand corp called "U.S. and Chinese Air Superiority Capabilities
An Assessment of Relative Advantage, 1996–2017" which is available for the public just google it.

A lot of the assertion is that they acknowledge the improvement of Chinese military capabilities BUT
"...results should be understood in context. China CANNOT achieve air superiority in any of these cases, and U.S. fighters achieve high kill ratios throughout. Relaxing the 21-day time requirement would reduce U.S. in-theater force requirements to levels that might be supported more easily by the available basing infrastructure." (Less than 50% rule)

Don't really need to be worried about Russians tbh.. That's what nato+eu was created for.
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You are so stupid - please do us all a favor and enlist in the navy and get on one of these ships and head to the South China Sea - I beg you!!!!!

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And SeaRAM has successfully engaged Mach 2.5, sea skimming targets multiple times.

Does this mean we will be able to handle Brahmos and Sizzlers?
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Unless the Russians turn the power off, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12784166


They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
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That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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The proof is in the pudding.

The USA backed out of attacking Syria via the Mediterranean and looked like total punks - why?

Why doesn't the USA park it's naval fleet in the Persian gulf and finish off Iran?

These are 2nd world countries - if these ships are so invincible what is the problem?

tard
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Right now it's parked right in front of Russia playing war games with Russias neighbors. No fucks given. Rusdia is a joke.
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Yeah if I was you I would claim it wasnt exactly what it was too lol. What choice do you have? That gun shredded the target repeadedly.

Funny thing about the truth. It completely fucks up silly little desperate lies. Like magic. Now that I've told ppl what that target boat was and what it's designed for they'll go back and look and understand what they are seeing this time. A remote controlled target designed to take fire for target practice.

Because I think even our dumbest here understand that if the gun was really missing it's target it wouldn't have been allowed in the video.
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Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
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You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Yeah, now try to go and hit a bunch of hypersonic missiles coming at you from several directions.
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If they existed you'd have a point. But they don't. So you dont.
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Unless the Russians turn the power off, yes.
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
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So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
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That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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You really are retarded
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Unless the Russians turn the power off, yes.
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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Arrogance and overconfidence will be your demise, as happens with all empires.

By the way, I didn't insult you. Do you only speak with people you agree with? Or is it just another aspect of imperial arrogance?
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Unless the Russians turn the power off, yes.
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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Let's addmit for a moment that's true. That will only make them more willing to use their nuclear arsenal if pressured. And THAT you should fear. Unless you're an idiot.
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Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
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You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Yeah, now try to go and hit a bunch of hypersonic missiles coming at you from several directions.
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If they existed you'd have a point. But they don't. So you dont.
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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You really are retarded
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Nice fact laden rebuttal jerkit you're beat kid. Skit.
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Lol very funny let's just hope you are on the boat with the ram bollox and many tards like you when there's fucking ten Russian missles fired off the back of a 1000 dollar Russian truck and splits your vessel in two , now go " RAM " that up your ass ... Looks like USA is running out of ideas to destroy Germany and get some new scientists maybe lol
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You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Yeah, now try to go and hit a bunch of hypersonic missiles coming at you from several directions.
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If they existed you'd have a point. But they don't. So you dont.
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Even China and India have them?
Where do you get your news from?
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They can't turn the power off.
That was a random blog claim from dome little nothing blogger sorry ha fail ran with that was proven fake not long after it came out. This place just ignored the facts .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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Arrogance and overconfidence will be your demise, as happens with all empires.

By the way, I didn't insult you. Do you only speak with people you agree with? Or is it just another aspect of imperial arrogance?
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You insulted my intelligence with your dumbass response and anyone who believes the Russian propaganda and supports it deserves to be treated harshly absolutely. So go find a democrat site yo cry about your delicate sensibilitieson.
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Df 21 goes mach 10, and has range to strike all the carriers anywhere around the world.


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So are you denying the existence of the EMP effect from nuclear weapons? Are you denying that some nuclear weapons have been optimized for EMP?

You will be very surprised one of these days. Maybe sooner than you would think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64803050


Arrogance and overconfidence will be your demise, as happens with all empires.

By the way, I didn't insult you. Do you only speak with people you agree with? Or is it just another aspect of imperial arrogance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


You insulted my intelligence with your dumbass response and anyone who believes the Russian propaganda and supports it deserves to be treated harshly absolutely. So go find a democrat site yo cry about your delicate sensibilitieson.
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There's Russian propaganda but of course there's none from the US because you are the good guys, right. Well, you are NOT the good guys. At least not anymore.
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You can't save it dumbass. Ppl know what that target practice boat is now because I just told them and it's easy to see once you know what you are looking at. They didn't know those existed, and thats okay, but now that they do it makes perfect sense that we would have those obviously and that part of the video makes a whole lot more sense now.

For instance at the end of that scene they obviously shot the shit out of the target. You even hear them celebrate a little at how many bullets it took. Did sink? Know of course not even though it was obviously hit.
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Yeah, now try to go and hit a bunch of hypersonic missiles coming at you from several directions.
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If they existed you'd have a point. But they don't. So you dont.
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Even China and India have them?
Where do you get your news from?
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Even china and India? Two of the top 5 militaries in the world. You say it like they're bit players lol. Weirdo.

China like Russia has shown nothing. Same for India who only showed interest in them if they existed last I knew. Feel free to provide proof of their existence. Hypersonic missiles that will best US defenses that are proven to exist and work as claimed.

Go ahead. Learn me something.
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That's not even what the Russian shills are claiming turned the power to the ship off you fucking dumb ass putin

Nuke emp? Thats,what you came at me with in regards go the fake story about shutting off the ships electronics?

And I'm not afraid of Russia. At all. They're the trailer trash of the world militaries who can't wrap their mind around no one is scared of them with a modern military.no one.

Exercise Anakonda.
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Arrogance and overconfidence will be your demise, as happens with all empires.

By the way, I didn't insult you. Do you only speak with people you agree with? Or is it just another aspect of imperial arrogance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70233449


You insulted my intelligence with your dumbass response and anyone who believes the Russian propaganda and supports it deserves to be treated harshly absolutely. So go find a democrat site yo cry about your delicate sensibilitieson.
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There's Russian propaganda but of course there's none from the US because you are the good guys, right. Well, you are NOT the good guys. At least not anymore.
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That's irrelevant. These claims are propaganda from russia. That's the facts.





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