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RIGGED...all you have to do is upset a team balance (rhythm). Put Curry in foul trouble... for a guy who is never in foul trouble destroys balance. Oh wait lets throw Draymond out. Amazing how many fouls did Lebron commit?Losing Bogart hurt he sets great screens.
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It's possible to tilt games with officiating but basketball is HARD competition. The winners win. You're wrong. This was not predetermined.
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Check out the convenient ESPN 30 for 30 documentary that came out this year called BELIEVELAND

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About how the city hasn't won a major sports title in 52 years.. and now look... hmm
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Why the hell are you even watching shit like the nba in the first place.
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j e w theater is all it is, both owners of cleavland and golden state, and the commissioner putting on a show with their pets
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I think sports are rigged, but only to a point. Refs can try and make it close, and help a team out, but if the other team demolishes them then there's nothing they can really do.

But why wouldn't it be rigged? This is an entertainment business, they'd be fools not to try and control the outcomes if it benefits them financially.
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Convince me how the refs rigged Kyrie Irving to drop a dagger right in the golden boy's face. Anyone who plays basketball knows it takes nerves to play under pressure maybe rigged to get to game 7 but no ref rigged Kyrie to make that shot he just did because he truly is great and very humble too unlike his opposition (gsw).

Where were all these warrior fans 2 years ago? And just because you don't win every time doesn't mean it's rigged.
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butthurt gsw fan... Cleveland hit the shots
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They are all rigged. Nba, nfl,.....
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yeah, and clearly the refs used their magical powers to cause Curry and the rest of the Warrior team to miss the final 9 shots of the game?

The game was tied 89-89 with like 4:30 left and the Cavs won it 93-89.

If the warriors hit just 2 of their final 9 shots, they win the game and win the series.

enough with the NBA is rigged BS.
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Their shots were rushed and well defended including the monster block by LeBron.

That said, fouls were called on Curry - again - that didn't happen. But he was getting mugged. So we are really talking about multiple foul shots Curry didn't get to take, plus foul trouble for Cleveland.

He literally got run over by one player when he was just standing there, yet the refs called Curry for the foul.

The final score was really a one shot win with an extra foul shot at the end. If the GWS had been given the ball instead of Cleveland, who knows what would have happened.

It's not the players who fix games, it is the refs.

The players have too much to lose if they don't play their best. Refs can be bought and sold like popcorn.
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This^

The refs control the game, & the momentum. Once curry got his third foul he was off his game.
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Great players can play through foul trouble. That argument is very thin. No the refs did not make up fouls on curry to get in his head, these players practice for these high pressure situations some practice more, that would be the Cleveland cavaliers, rigged or not rigged, curry missed 3 shots at the end Kyrie hit his one shot he needed, no rigging can change that outcome, so please explain to me how the refs and NBA rigged Kyrie to make his shot and curry to miss his and not pass to an open guy either....logic is rare but it can be applied here. Cleveland is vastly more experienced hence they are the now the champions.
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I guess the queen can keep his crown this year Stephs wife was right the NBA is such a shit show, and more corrupt than Fifa. Anyone who thinks they won straight up did not watch the series. Did not watch the flops by queen James, did not watch Curry get ran over and beat up without a whistle. Did not see Queen James disrespectfully step over Green after knocking him on the ground yet Green gets suspended.. I have never been so sick to my stomach.. If Ramsey Bolten didn't get eaten by dogs last night, I might have rioted..
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butthurt gsw fan... Cleveland hit the shots
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It's possible to tilt games with officiating but basketball is HARD competition. The winners win. You're wrong. This was not predetermined.
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Let's discuss statistical probability.

What is the statistical likelihood alone of the the league's current MVP (Curry) facing off against former league MVP and generally proclaimed best player since Jordan?

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Let's continue. Next, you have the single greatest player (James) vs the defending champions who just happen to have had the greatest record in NBA history this season.

Think of the probability there.

Now, bring into the STORYLINE, that James has returned to his original team (Cleveland) with the sole purpose of bringing home a championship.

Now he has to do it against the BEST regular season team in NBA history, with the best current player MVP Curry who just happen to be the defending champions.

Next factor in the 3-1 lead, and Cleveland comes back to win on the road, vs the best team, with the best record and the best player MVP Curry.

Now James has a literal storybook fairy tale GAME 7 ending, that just happened to all work out completely perfectly for the returning KING.

YOU COULDN'T SCRIPT IT MORE PERFECTLY... UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY SCRIPTED IT.
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game 6 in Cleveland was on 6-16-2016
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Yes its rigged after decades of control by rabbi david stern its worse yet under rabbi adam silver. How in HELL does the league wind up in the hands of jews who never held a ball in their life???
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Where to begin….where to begin….where to begin….

I was in a bar just prior to Game 6. I wasn't there to watch the game. I was there with friends, and it just so happened that the game was on every TV in the place (which might soon count in the ratings, meaning that sports' ratings may soon get even higher and further dominate your televisions). The bartended, whom I didn't know, looked up at the TV while handing me the next round of drinks and said, "You know the Cavs will win this. The league wants a Game 7."

And that, in a nutshell, is the way today's NBA is viewed. In many ways, my job is done. People are seeing through this charade, yet....

It started when the reigning NBA champion Golden State Warriors led by MVP Steph Curry won a league-record 73 games this season. Four of the nine games they lost were to non-playoff teams, but they didn’t lose a home game until April 1st when the Boston Celtics handed the Warriors its eighth loss of the season.

Once the Warriors won their 73rd game, I knew one thing: there was no way the Warriors would repeat as champions. That’s right. I believed that. I tweeted it, and I responded to every fan who asked my opinion with that same answer: the Warriors would not win it all.

Why? My argument was consistently the same. It boiled down to the reason I never thought the Carolina Panthers would go undefeated or beat the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl. By doing so, the argument of which team was the “best ever” would be over. The 72-win Chicago Bulls would no longer be the answer to that question; the 73-win Warriors would always be the response. The league didn’t want that, nor did the pundits. Both want that answer to remain open-ended because then there’s something to go after next season, and the season after that, and so on.

And now, after the ratings bonanza that was Game 7 (the most watched NBA game in 20 years), I was proven correct.

But how’d we even get to a Game 7? How’d this record setting team fail? How did the Warriors manage to make a dramatic comeback themselves, rallying from being down 3-1 to the Oklahoma City Thunder (a series itself that begs being broken down given the epic fail of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook), and then allow the Cleveland Cavaliers to do the same to them?

Perhaps the fix was in.

Game 1 and Game 2 were lopsided Warriors’ blow-outs, almost as expected. At home, Golden State beat LeBron and Co. by 15 points and then by 33. Would the Warriors sweep? Was LeBron finished?

These two teams knew each other well. They played each other in last year’s Finals…with the Warriors winning it in six. In fact, at this point over the course of the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons, these two squads had faced off 10 times with the Warriors winning seven of those contests, including both regular season games in 2015-16 and now both playoff games.

Again, up to this point.

Then, back home for Game 3, the Cavs blew the Warriors out of the water, winning by 30. No sweep. At least five games now guaranteed. But after the Warriors rallied for Game 4 and won by 11, it appeared that going home—where the team was 78-4 over the last two (regular) seasons—Golden State was ready to be crowned NBA champions yet again.

One problem. The Warriors Draymond Green was suspended for Game 5. Why? For hitting LeBron James in the groin during a bit of a tussle late in Game 4. This is about the best image of that event:


I saw this moment live. The two definitely had an MMA moment on the court. But for supposedly getting hit in the groin, flop-king—and no one flops in the NBA better than LeBron James—didn’t react. This is the same LeBron who, very late in Game 7, acted as if his wrist had snapped after a missed/blocked dunk, writhing on the floor, then getting up to promptly sink the game clinching free throw and never speaking of the wrist again.

Another take-away from the Green’s groin shot on LeBron: television’s complete lack of pointing it out. The announcers never mentioned the low-blow. There was no repeated replays of the cheap shot. The entire event was blown over. Probably because there was no "event" to actually discuss.

Until Green was suspended. Then it was broken down like the Zapruder film, and it needed to be in order to see when/where the low-blow took place.

Green should’ve been suspended back in the OKC series for kicking Steven Adams in the groin late in Game 4. But he wasn’t. He was fined, but not suspended because, well, no one could really say. The sports world just trusted the NBA’s decision on the matter.

Yet when Green finally did get that one game suspension for the mystery shot on LeBron, it was all made sense. Suspending Green for Game 5 in the Western Conference Finals could’ve meant the premature end of the Warriors as they were down 3-1. The league couldn’t weaken the Warriors at that time. But now, leading 3-1 over the Cavs, it was the perfect moment to play that pocketed trump card.

Former NBA referee Tim Donaghy then came out and said what most people believed: the NBA’s suspension of Green was pure manipulation. (By the way, check out how one writer for Yahoo covered this. Talk about a biased media. Wow. It led to even more "think pieces" that basically deny any such "conspiracy" is possible). It was a sign that the league didn’t want this series to end in five games. They wanted a Game 6, and probably, a Game 7.

Sure enough, the near-impossible-to-beat-at-home Warriors, with the NBA title within easy reach, dropped Game 5. Without Green to contend with, the Cavs won by 15.

Green was back for Game 6, but center Andrew Bogut injured his knee and left the game (and was out for the remainder of the Finals) nor could Steph Curry last the entire contest. Remarkably—shockingly—Curry fouled out. Seriously. The league MVP fouled out of Game 6 of the NBA Finals. When’s the last time that ever happened? Never mind Curry’s frustration at the final call which caused him to chuck his heavily-chewed up mouth guard at the son of one of the Cavs’ minority owners (which perhaps should've led to his own suspension). He freakin’ fouled out!

And then came the tweet.


There’s a couple of takeaways from Ayesha Curry’s tweet (which was quickly deleted, but not nearly quick enough in this day and age). One, she didn’t make a peep after her hubby won the title last year. No, “the fix is in” is usually the cry of someone who feels as if they’ve been screwed (usually, the loser). But, two, this is the wife of the league’s MVP calling out the league for its open manipulation of its games. And not just any old regular season contest. This was a championship game.

And she had a reason to complain. In the Warriors three Finals wins, Curry averaged three personal fouls a game (2, 4, and 3 PFs). In their four losses, he averaged four a game (4, 2, 6, and 4). Were the refs intentionally hyper-focused on Curry in those games? They weren't on LeBron's case (in order, starting with Game 1, LeBron was charged with 2, 3, 2, 4, 1, 3, and 1 fouls in the series. Five fouls in the final three Cavs' victories). Although that's no surprise. Stan Van Gundy told everyone months ago that LeBron gets his own set of rules.

But mostly, Curry’s tweet struck a serious chord with many NBA fans and followers because, let’s be honest, she’s not alone in thinking/believing/knowing the NBA isn’t a legit league. You probably wouldn’t be reading this if you, too, didn’t believe that the league does manipulate games, even playoff games, for its own reasons. And those reasons are the exact ones she mentioned in her tweet: ratings and money.

How much money? One estimate put the value of a Game 7 at around $45-50 million which, in this case, I believe was an underestimate. But either way, that’s one heck of an incentive. But it doesn’t directly benefit the league…now. The benefit of a Game 7 goes mainly to the league’s broadcast partners, in this case ABC/ESPN/Disney. The benefit to the NBA will really come down the line when the league’s broadcast rights are up for negotiation because the league will then point to these ratings to prove what the league can deliver. And then the league gets paid.

So Game 7 gave the NBA a win-win. If the Warriors won, the story was a repeat champion, the “greatest team ever,” and the further deification of Steph Curry. But if the Cavs won, the stories were perhaps even better: the first ever Finals comeback from being down three games to one, the first championship for the city of Cleveland in decades, and the further coronation of "King James."

Despite every game in the Finals being decided by more than 10 points, and in fact, being anything close to nail-biters, of course Game 7 came down to the final moments of play. Eleven lead changes will do that (because you can’t let all those advertising dollars go to waste).

The Cavs ultimately won, on the road, 93-89. They only committed 15 personal fouls all game….well, they were only called for 15 (which was the fewest fouls called all series). The Warriors, the home team which usually gets a supposed “subconscious” edge from officials, committed 23 personal fouls. Yet the Cavs were awarded 25 free throws to Golden State’s 13, and by sinking 11 more of those attempts (which the Warriors didn’t even have a chance to match), LeBron won his third, tear-soaked championship. (Maybe. Was he really crying? Or sorta faking it?)


Look, I won’t take anything away from LeBron. He led the series in every major category, and he is one hell of an athlete. He does what few other human beings are capable of doing. But I thought basketball was a team sport. I thought one player could make a difference, but without a team, one player was incapable of altering a game, much less an entire series.

But that is not what modern basketball, or at least NBA basketball, actually is. The modern NBA is just single athletes: LeBron, Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Curry, and if you want to go back just a step further, Magic and Bird. That’s it. Seriously, 30 years of NBA history is wrapped up in a handful of superstars. This should not be, but once NBA Commissioner David Stern made the corporate decision to trumpet the league’s stars over and above its teams, this is what transpired. Is that a coincidence?

So what does it take to build a winner? Not a team. Just one player. Hit the jackpot in the draft with a talent that tickles America’s fancy, and your team’s ticket is basically punched to titletown. “Believeland” just got their’s. What’s your favorite team waiting for?
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I would admit the refs helped pushed the series to a game 7, but game 7 was anyone's game. all they wanted was a game 7 on fathers day... they got it, but after that the calls were pretty legit throughout the last game.

if Kyrie didn't hit that 3, Golden State could of easily won that game.

you want to know where the real bullshit lies?

I'm not a Lebron or a Curry fan, I'm just a basketball fan... and Curry winning UNANIMOUS MVP was completely ridiculous.

I give him all the credit in the world as a scorer... and hitting that dagger 3 pointer from anywhere on the court practically... but Curry isn't very special anywhere else.

I'm sorry, but Curry isn't even close to a premier defender... and he certainly isn't a rebounder...

But then you've got Lebron... A scorer, an assist leader on the team, a set up guy, a premier defender, a chase down artist, and can play literally all 5 starting positions on the court, including at PG.

People got caught up in the Curry hype... if Curry is a unanimous MVP... what about Klay Thompson? The guy can shoot almost as well and plays pretty much the same spotty defense.. Shit, I think Draymond is more "VALUABLE" to that team at the end of the day with all that he contributes to.

I get the hype leading to a Curry MVP... but a unanimous MVP? when you've got Lebron who can do pretty much EVERYTHING a basketball player is asked to do from literally ANY position from PG to C?

He's better than Jordan. Period.

No, he's not as clutch as Jordan.

But, he's better overall.
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Butthurt Golden State fans:

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I guess the queen can keep his crown this year Stephs wife was right the NBA is such a shit show, and more corrupt than Fifa. Anyone who thinks they won straight up did not watch the series. Did not watch the flops by queen James, did not watch Curry get ran over and beat up without a whistle. Did not see Queen James disrespectfully step over Green after knocking him on the ground yet Green gets suspended.. I have never been so sick to my stomach.. If Ramsey Bolten didn't get eaten by dogs last night, I might have rioted..
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Yet I'm sure you'll say that last year when Golden State won it wasn't fixed. Take your butthurt somewhere else.
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Screw you guys. Cleveland Cavs are the champs!!!!!!!!!!
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Cavaliers will also be remembered as the only team named after a car...

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Julius Erving's last game was the last NBA game I cared about.
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Too much money on the line. All professional sports are now rigged.
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I guess the queen can keep his crown this year Stephs wife was right the NBA is such a shit show, and more corrupt than Fifa. Anyone who thinks they won straight up did not watch the series. Did not watch the flops by queen James, did not watch Curry get ran over and beat up without a whistle. Did not see Queen James disrespectfully step over Green after knocking him on the ground yet Green gets suspended.. I have never been so sick to my stomach.. If Ramsey Bolten didn't get eaten by dogs last night, I might have rioted..
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thanks for spoiling GOT for everyone
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Cavaliers will also be remembered as the only team named after a car...


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You really belive GSW wasn't in on it too?
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I stopped watching the NBA ten years ago after coming to the conclusion that it is rigged. Steph Curry's ridiculous game is what got me watching again this year.

But my history with know it is rigged is pretty lengthy. I heard Utah Jazz player Greg Ostertag say on live radio in 2002 that the refs determine the outcome of games. It was in the middle of the summer during the off season so no one seemed to notice. Hearing that interview is honestly one of the things that made me start questioning the official story of things like 9-11. Thanks, Ostertag!

A friend of mine who played in The L (that's what players call the NBA for those who don't know. They call it "the League" or "the L" for short) for 11 years said, when I asked him if it's rigged, that "All the players know that the refs affect the outcome of every game. But since it happens every night, and sometimes it helps you and sometimes it hurts you, it becomes irrelevant because it all evens out." Riiiiiiiiiight.

The last NBA game I remember paying for was the Timberwolves and the Lakers in the 2004 WCFs. Game seven of the Wolves/Kings in the WC semifinals that year was totally rigged--not in terms of who won but in terms of the refs making calls to keep the game close. Anytime a team got up by about five, the refs would make a call to stop the run or get the other team back in it. I seem to remember Dick Bavetta on that crew but don't remember for sure.

I have long thought that only the refs were in on it. But watching the Warriors go the final 4:39 of Game Freaking Seven without scoring and barely calling a timeout or running plays for their stars make me think for the first time that the players may be in on it, too.

Guess what, NBA? I tuned in for the first time in a decade. And you managed to confirm what I already knew. Good luck getting me to come back.
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Cavaliers will also be remembered as the only team named after a car...


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