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Yes, everyone especially you, Merit is screwed up. Tired and pissed off trying to be patient waiting for you to get you head out of your ass. Either explain it or don't.

I feel like telling everyone to FRACktle OFF I am so confused.

I woke up early to catch up and now I'm raging I bothered. There was a hint of hope when you mentioned a white board at yours and some private tutoring but no....you broke open the Jamey and cigars

...then it all fell apart.

No craic, only an egg crack from within and a bible thumper thrown in.

Pinch yourself THAT is reality.

The mark that is left on your skin is a singularity.

If you can't explain it you don't understand it yourself.
I still love you though.
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Things went a bit crazy after you went to bed. An especially nasty troll arrived, a threatening one at that.

I did a major clean-up on aisle 5. It turned everything upside down for a while.
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LJS,
I'm getting caught up on the thread right now, but for the record, I did not say that stuff above that looks like it was quoted to me. That was Niamh...

Thanks,
ETM
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I know. Quotes have been wonky in the thread for a while. A system thing that just happens sometimes.

I'm way behind getting caught up, but I have to leave soon for a few hours -- need some training time.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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^ sounds like a type of epignosis.. Experienced
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When I get back, have a rather bizarre experience from the pub last night. If I have time, I will write it up.

Nutshell: Strange guy, very dark energy, said some bizarre things. Was very out of place for this neighborhood pub.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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Happy Saturday!!! Wishing everyone the most awesome weekend :)





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flowas

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Yeah i have... Im really starting to feel relived, because my two month project which i wanted to last only one month is finally as good as finished. Cost my a lot of nerves but i didnt fuck up to bad so i finally can enjoy looking forward to leave the country on monday and meet a wise friend :)



Yet ever to flow
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Oh well think about the tides ;)

Space is fuel. The energy it contains is 10^113 joules per cubic meter. You cant even imagine this amount of energy. And space is also still expanding in our universe.
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I was thinking about that yesterday. Lol I am no scientist, but i thought that maybe its not the plants and stars, galaxies moving...its the space between/around everything thats growing, moving carrying along all bodies with it like sand in water. on a wave.
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Well it is. Its called gravitation and the lake is Aether said Tesla :)Its the room bending stuff i guess :) No straight lines, just curves. Maybe you would like to imagine a plane flying in a cubicle of air. The air itself moves, as well does the plane. Thats why it appears to fly backwards if the wind blows faster against the plane than itself has airspeed, then from the ground it appears, that the plane gets carried (or is flying) backwards instead forward.
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Happy travels PYBananna!
You have a great was of explaining stuff, so thanks!!
I sure hope you enjoy your visit with your friend.
Lol glad you didnt fuck up your project.
Always the potential for that in pretty much everything.
Cripes. :-) :-).


Flutterby Fringe,
Thanks for the videos. YOU have a great day as well!
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Thx. Yes, especially when you learn from scratch.




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Youre welcome. But still i warn you :) Im just a fool as you all are. The only thing i know for sure is that i know knothing. So i am just sharing some beliefs, nothing more nothing less. Dont think theyre worth that much :)
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LOL Ok, get that. Am just observing and taking in what is said by all here and use discernment. ;) The older I get the less I 'know' it seems. LOL
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Thx. Yes, especially when you learn from scratch.




beavis
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bump
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Youre welcome. But still i warn you :) Im just a fool as you all are. The only thing i know for sure is that i know knothing. So i am just sharing some beliefs, nothing more nothing less. Dont think theyre worth that much :)
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LOL Ok, get that. Am just observing and taking in what is said by all here and use discernment. ;) The older I get the less I 'know' it seems. LOL
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True statement! The older we get, if we are wise, we realize we really know very little!
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Youre welcome. But still i warn you :) Im just a fool as you all are. The only thing i know for sure is that i know knothing. So i am just sharing some beliefs, nothing more nothing less. Dont think theyre worth that much :)
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LOL Ok, get that. Am just observing and taking in what is said by all here and use discernment. ;) The older I get the less I 'know' it seems. LOL
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Too true!!
1rof1

Is your brain getting full??.
1dunno1


Lol ..okay got to go do household stuff.
You know the basics of life.
Have a good day Lil Miss!

Maybe I'll sweep out some cranium webs while I'm at it!
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Double post.

But I'll use it.

So this is how it goes for me...getting older...

Get on freeway.
Driving. Trying not to drive like a
F'n Caterpillar.
Get cut off by a truck.
Start making grocery list.
Butter, milk, asparagus.
What if its space moving and not the planets
Oh yeah meat.
Jesus I didnt get quarterlies finished today.
Miss my exit,
Double back around.
Works out cause I need gas and station is right there.

abduct

Its all good.
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Youre welcome. But still i warn you :) Im just a fool as you all are. The only thing i know for sure is that i know knothing. So i am just sharing some beliefs, nothing more nothing less. Dont think theyre worth that much :)
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LOL Ok, get that. Am just observing and taking in what is said by all here and use discernment. ;) The older I get the less I 'know' it seems. LOL
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True statement! The older we get, if we are wise, we realize we really know very little!
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And how! *giggles*

hf
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Youre welcome. But still i warn you :) Im just a fool as you all are. The only thing i know for sure is that i know knothing. So i am just sharing some beliefs, nothing more nothing less. Dont think theyre worth that much :)
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LOL Ok, get that. Am just observing and taking in what is said by all here and use discernment. ;) The older I get the less I 'know' it seems. LOL
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Too true!!
1rof1

Is your brain getting full??.
1dunno1


Lol ..okay got to go do household stuff.
You know the basics of life.
Have a good day Lil Miss!

Maybe I'll sweep out some cranium webs while I'm at it!
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LOL!!!! Apparently so! Done with household stuff, so will work on the 'brain webs.' ;)

hf
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Don't go killing any lions they are few and far between.

But thank you, that was nice agus beannnacht leat.

Now I'll tell you about the Fairie Fort.

When you open up to me I open up to you.

When our first peoples came here all there was, was trees. The place was covered with them.
Some flowered, some didn't.
Calendars were formed using the flowers and hips or nuts etc as markers for the seasons.

They used the thorny type for protection, essentially they built groves in circles. I live across from one and feel its protection every day, don't laugh!

One of the sacred trees here is the hawthorn. An Sceachgael.

Recently a lovely man saved a fairie tree on the ennis by-pass his name is Eddie Lenihan. A TRUE IRISH GEM. If there was ever a man to be rewarded for his service to irish history it is this man. This is the only time I have seen our government do a REAL service was in listening to him. He knows that the tree holds ancestral knowledge.

for some reason the shrub/tree sends up a mushroom as it dies.

And a fairie ring is formed of mushrooms. It is a mushroom that sends you to another plain. I haven't tried it......yet.

That's how fairie stories became. Someone ate the mushroom and sent them into a different plain of existance. Some stories were terrifying and some were like Hy-brasail /Eden or the Summerlands in my eyes.


Parfait.

Seo é an sceal den fairie lore and now you have it.

Mind it.
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Och I'll be stumbling across mushrooms in the future then and having to ingest them I profer.

Well thank you kindly lady. Do you reckon the animals will turn on folk like some say? Do you ken it?
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No, they just got smarter, all harvests swooped on by a murder of crows. Chickens I said it earlier fox food just a death by a thousand cuts.. Butterflies eating your cabbage.
That is all normal stuff here. We just know what to do. It's easy for me. I know how to sent the crows away. etc.

People miss the plot though, when you befriend the wildlife you get to know them. Did you ever here the saying.

"Don't waste it, you might have to follow a crow for that?"

That is a very true statement.

It's not something that can be taught in a season as seasons change it is a lifetimes observation.

Let me give you a for instance.

"people love bunches of roses". That is a sentence you will never forget, your black AMEX card won't buy you this one.

potatoes, legumes, brassicas, onions, roots.
people, love, bunches, of, roses. swap bed 1 into bed 2 etc.

That is the way you place your beds so you don't get eeehmmm STD's in your veg.



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Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
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Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
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When I get back, have a rather bizarre experience from the pub last night. If I have time, I will write it up.

Nutshell: Strange guy, very dark energy, said some bizarre things. Was very out of place for this neighborhood pub.
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I can't wait for this story!
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Haha... Lol that is great
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Och I'll be stumbling across mushrooms in the future then and having to ingest them I profer.

Well thank you kindly lady. Do you reckon the animals will turn on folk like some say? Do you ken it?
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No, they just got smarter, all harvests swooped on by a murder of crows. Chickens I said it earlier fox food just a death by a thousand cuts.. Butterflies eating your cabbage.
That is all normal stuff here. We just know what to do. It's easy for me. I know how to sent the crows away. etc.

People miss the plot though, when you befriend the wildlife you get to know them. Did you ever here the saying.

"Don't waste it, you might have to follow a crow for that?"

That is a very true statement.

It's not something that can be taught in a season as seasons change it is a lifetimes observation.

Let me give you a for instance.

"people love bunches of roses". That is a sentence you will never forget, your black AMEX card won't buy you this one.

potatoes, legumes, brassicas, onions, roots.
people, love, bunches, of, roses. swap bed 1 into bed 2 etc.

That is the way you place your beds so you don't get eeehmmm STD's in your veg.



 Quoting: Niamh 72674998


Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
 Quoting: A.Grass


Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
 Quoting: Niamh 72693081



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
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No, they just got smarter, all harvests swooped on by a murder of crows. Chickens I said it earlier fox food just a death by a thousand cuts.. Butterflies eating your cabbage.
That is all normal stuff here. We just know what to do. It's easy for me. I know how to sent the crows away. etc.

People miss the plot though, when you befriend the wildlife you get to know them. Did you ever here the saying.

"Don't waste it, you might have to follow a crow for that?"

That is a very true statement.

It's not something that can be taught in a season as seasons change it is a lifetimes observation.

Let me give you a for instance.

"people love bunches of roses". That is a sentence you will never forget, your black AMEX card won't buy you this one.

potatoes, legumes, brassicas, onions, roots.
people, love, bunches, of, roses. swap bed 1 into bed 2 etc.

That is the way you place your beds so you don't get eeehmmm STD's in your veg.



 Quoting: Niamh 72674998


Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
 Quoting: A.Grass


Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
 Quoting: Niamh 72693081



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
 Quoting: S__


I do this! Also, leave a space for fallow ground. Then you'll have a cleaner garden the next year!
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Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
 Quoting: A.Grass


Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
 Quoting: Niamh 72693081



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
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I do this! Also, leave a space for fallow ground. Then you'll have a cleaner garden the next year!
 Quoting: bigD111



Nice :-)
There is another trick to this kind of agricultural approaching.
There are some flowers you can grow in between sheds which not only help the soil and vegetables with their health but also bring joy to both plants and people :-D
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I hope buckwheat makes a big comeback...if I had the land I would be planting it.
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Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
 Quoting: Niamh 72693081



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
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I do this! Also, leave a space for fallow ground. Then you'll have a cleaner garden the next year!
 Quoting: bigD111



Nice :-)
There is another trick to this kind of agricultural approaching.
There are some flowers you can grow in between sheds which not only help the soil and vegetables with their health but also bring joy to both plants and people :-D
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I like that! I know that marigolds are helpful!
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Hi Merit (I have some thoughts on identity, but your identity is not the key, it is each of OUR identities. Not to mention, you would diminish your effectiveness with an identity other than the one you have chosen wisely),

The first thing to say, is WOW. The second, is "thank you". The third thing... not so easy to decipher. Where to begin? What is the most important thing to respond to? What is the most important thing I can add, act upon or ask to bring to the light?

I guess I will choose the third item as transparency that while my aim was to read every single comment you made, it took me almost a week to get to somewhere around page 180. I am a busy man, and I DID try to make this a priority, but life/ work happens and I have a TON of responsibility. So just now, I decided to skip to the end and start playing rather than just watching even if it was just one round then an extended break.

The fourth thing, is that I think you will agree, that whatever "purpose" for this thread, it doesn't matter who you are, who I am or how many participate. The potential for what it could lead to is greater than, AND equal to, all of us I believe. I'm not trying to beat around the bush, or make anyone be forced to read between the lines, I am being careful to use as few words as possible.

I believe I see some error in some of your statements, but they are VERY few, are only really in one single category out of the scores that you touch upon, and I know that you would be able to see error in mine too, were I to share them whether it was confirmation bias or any number of reasons. But I will not in the first post.

The last thing I will say, is that I believe that I THINK (I am agnostic for the most part if you want to put me in a category) that I see your vision and why you are doing this. But I could be completely wrong. I humbly acknowledge that. I am not coming from any esoteric, secret society perspective. This is sound logical reasoning and empirical evidence (that could be enhanced via other avenues, but we have to start at the first of the 4 levels and not stray from its foundation while adding the other levels).

To my last "thing" I will add; please be confident that I am not a basement-dwelling keyboard warrior. I am the Chief Information and Communication Technologies Officer at a global company that probably everyone on this thread knows the name of. I hope that doesn't give away MY identity, but if it does then sobeit. And I hope that is not seen as arrogance or pride- it is not, it's just a fact. It is only for you to know (because how else COULD you before my post) that I am not 17 years old living in my parent's basement as so many have been forced to (by their choice, but you know what I mean). I am 40 with a wife and 2 kids making a very nice salary.

I have a well-documented plan to accomplish what I think you are in desire of but I'm not certain what your desire is. So, your move brother. If you are not interested, it wasn't meant to be at this time. I am sorry for the long post. It was as short as I could make it.
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Hello

I certainly appreciate your candor and effective communication skills. You write well. Like me when I am "on". So it reads quickly and easily.

You wish to employ my reasoning skills and talents to your plan? I am certainly open. Like you said this is not about me. I am efficient to a fault. If I find a method superior to mine i typically immediately recognize that fact and abandon mine for the better.

A talent that has served me well mind you.
That lack of sentiment towards something that is mine or long used by myself has given me the ability to move into new and better things quickly and with focus.

My goal is to get everyone on the same page more so than have the most elegant or diabolical plan mind you so if I have critiques they will likely be in that vein. That I think your plan lacks an all inclusiveness to it or that I see things that will alienate certain large groups of people.

This sounds interesting.

Lay it on me brother.
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OK, I will try not to lay it on too thick.

The foundation of it is simply what Yeshua (Jesus) modeled for humanity; Discipleship through homegroups so that the Nicolaitanism cannot dominate or stifle those who wish to grow further than the leadership. True freedom from spiritual leaders and secret societies who want to control our spiritual growth.

What you have done with this thread is created a relational discipleship arena. I have about 50 Facebook groups I have created and done precisely as you have done here. The key, is that you have to meet people wherever they are. You can't throw at them what they are not ready for.

As you have shown in this thread, there are countless topics that require discipleship, and as you have stated multiple times, without a human guide to step in when needed, things can lead to bad choices and mistakes, which in and of themselves can be great for growth, problem solving experience, and conflict resolution betterment. But if misapplied, or mishandled can lead to dire straights.

The church, although it was co-opted by career pastors just as career preachers co-opted politics, and although it oozes false doctrines of men even since it began to be watered down starting in the 1st century, is a decent model to start with. It is not unlike the lodges of membership at the freemasonry claiming the secrets of Shlomo (Solomon).

I have shared this link before once or twice, but it always gets deleted. Perhaps it will not get deleted this time so that you can see it:

[link to homegroups.org]

Remember, the key is that it has to be palatable at the onset. Every secret society knows this. Otherwise your ranks would be filled with crazy people.

The other key is that this has to be repeatable in every county in the United States. This has to start in the US in my humble opinion. That way we can model it for the rest of the world. Our window of opportunity shrinks every day as you know.

This would include aquaponics as a version of merging technology with nature as the future of food farming.

In addition, it would include empowering each individual the knowledge to live a sustainable life as you have described. I have put what I think is one of the largest compilations of teaching material on the subject here: [link to homegroups.org] .

I am certain you can read between the lines. Please have a look and shoot holes in it.
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Hi Merit (I have some thoughts on identity, but your identity is not the key, it is each of OUR identities. Not to mention, you would diminish your effectiveness with an identity other than the one you have chosen wisely),

The first thing to say, is WOW. The second, is "thank you". The third thing... not so easy to decipher. Where to begin? What is the most important thing to respond to? What is the most important thing I can add, act upon or ask to bring to the light?

I guess I will choose the third item as transparency that while my aim was to read every single comment you made, it took me almost a week to get to somewhere around page 180. I am a busy man, and I DID try to make this a priority, but life/ work happens and I have a TON of responsibility. So just now, I decided to skip to the end and start playing rather than just watching even if it was just one round then an extended break.

The fourth thing, is that I think you will agree, that whatever "purpose" for this thread, it doesn't matter who you are, who I am or how many participate. The potential for what it could lead to is greater than, AND equal to, all of us I believe. I'm not trying to beat around the bush, or make anyone be forced to read between the lines, I am being careful to use as few words as possible.

I believe I see some error in some of your statements, but they are VERY few, are only really in one single category out of the scores that you touch upon, and I know that you would be able to see error in mine too, were I to share them whether it was confirmation bias or any number of reasons. But I will not in the first post.

The last thing I will say, is that I believe that I THINK (I am agnostic for the most part if you want to put me in a category) that I see your vision and why you are doing this. But I could be completely wrong. I humbly acknowledge that. I am not coming from any esoteric, secret society perspective. This is sound logical reasoning and empirical evidence (that could be enhanced via other avenues, but we have to start at the first of the 4 levels and not stray from its foundation while adding the other levels).

To my last "thing" I will add; please be confident that I am not a basement-dwelling keyboard warrior. I am the Chief Information and Communication Technologies Officer at a global company that probably everyone on this thread knows the name of. I hope that doesn't give away MY identity, but if it does then sobeit. And I hope that is not seen as arrogance or pride- it is not, it's just a fact. It is only for you to know (because how else COULD you before my post) that I am not 17 years old living in my parent's basement as so many have been forced to (by their choice, but you know what I mean). I am 40 with a wife and 2 kids making a very nice salary.

I have a well-documented plan to accomplish what I think you are in desire of but I'm not certain what your desire is. So, your move brother. If you are not interested, it wasn't meant to be at this time. I am sorry for the long post. It was as short as I could make it.
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Hello

I certainly appreciate your candor and effective communication skills. You write well. Like me when I am "on". So it reads quickly and easily.

You wish to employ my reasoning skills and talents to your plan? I am certainly open. Like you said this is not about me. I am efficient to a fault. If I find a method superior to mine i typically immediately recognize that fact and abandon mine for the better.

A talent that has served me well mind you.
That lack of sentiment towards something that is mine or long used by myself has given me the ability to move into new and better things quickly and with focus.

My goal is to get everyone on the same page more so than have the most elegant or diabolical plan mind you so if I have critiques they will likely be in that vein. That I think your plan lacks an all inclusiveness to it or that I see things that will alienate certain large groups of people.

This sounds interesting.

Lay it on me brother.
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OK, I will try not to lay it on too thick.

The foundation of it is simply what Yeshua (Jesus) modeled for humanity; Discipleship through homegroups so that the Nicolaitanism cannot dominate or stifle those who wish to grow further than the leadership. True freedom from spiritual leaders and secret societies who want to control our spiritual growth.

What you have done with this thread is created a relational discipleship arena. I have about 50 Facebook groups I have created and done precisely as you have done here. The key, is that you have to meet people wherever they are. You can't throw at them what they are not ready for.

As you have shown in this thread, there are countless topics that require discipleship, and as you have stated multiple times, without a human guide to step in when needed, things can lead to bad choices and mistakes, which in and of themselves can be great for growth, problem solving experience, and conflict resolution betterment. But if misapplied, or mishandled can lead to dire straights.

The church, although it was co-opted by career pastors just as career preachers co-opted politics, and although it oozes false doctrines of men even since it began to be watered down starting in the 1st century, is a decent model to start with. It is not unlike the lodges of membership at the freemasonry claiming the secrets of Shlomo (Solomon).

I have shared this link before once or twice, but it always gets deleted. Perhaps it will not get deleted this time so that you can see it:

[link to homegroups.org]

Remember, the key is that it has to be palatable at the onset. Every secret society knows this. Otherwise your ranks would be filled with crazy people.

The other key is that this has to be repeatable in every county in the United States. This has to start in the US in my humble opinion. That way we can model it for the rest of the world. Our window of opportunity shrinks every day as you know.

This would include aquaponics as a version of merging technology with nature as the future of food farming.

In addition, it would include empowering each individual the knowledge to live a sustainable life as you have described. I have put what I think is one of the largest compilations of teaching material on the subject here: [link to homegroups.org] .

I am certain you can read between the lines. Please have a look and shoot holes in it.
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Forgot to mention, that I have already built an App called HomeGroups that is downloadable from every "store" in the world and is used in many countries already. Most of it's functionality is disabled until certain users are ready for "activation". Too much information too soon is not a good thing.
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No, they just got smarter, all harvests swooped on by a murder of crows. Chickens I said it earlier fox food just a death by a thousand cuts.. Butterflies eating your cabbage.
That is all normal stuff here. We just know what to do. It's easy for me. I know how to sent the crows away. etc.

People miss the plot though, when you befriend the wildlife you get to know them. Did you ever here the saying.

"Don't waste it, you might have to follow a crow for that?"

That is a very true statement.

It's not something that can be taught in a season as seasons change it is a lifetimes observation.

Let me give you a for instance.

"people love bunches of roses". That is a sentence you will never forget, your black AMEX card won't buy you this one.

potatoes, legumes, brassicas, onions, roots.
people, love, bunches, of, roses. swap bed 1 into bed 2 etc.

That is the way you place your beds so you don't get eeehmmm STD's in your veg.



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Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
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Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
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Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
 Quoting: S__


Totally welcome.
Now that you mention lunar calendars I also have a monthly hunting calendar based on the full moon hunts or lamping as it is called now for animal sustainability. Now THAT is ancient. Leave it with me I have to dig it out.

We used to have laws in Ireland called the Brehon Laws and some of the laws were all about not cutting certain trees and how to have a society live sustainably.

It's a small island after all.
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Niahm,
Boy I know this is way off current topic in this thread,
But could you explain this little more thoroughly if you would? My dad told me this once when I was young but he is dead and gone.
I am abadoning my raised beds and totally overhauling the gardens in the fall. This info would be so helpful.

citronella....I have it in pots along my porch railings. Does a fine job of keeping the little bloodsuckers at bay.
 Quoting: A.Grass


Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D
 Quoting: Niamh 72693081



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf
 Quoting: S__


Totally welcome.
Now that you mention lunar calendars I also have a monthly hunting calendar based on the full moon hunts or lamping as it is called now for animal sustainability. Now THAT is ancient. Leave it with me I have to dig it out.

We used to have laws in Ireland called the Brehon Laws and some of the laws were all about not cutting certain trees and how to have a society live sustainably.

It's a small island after all.
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Oh Thank you so much!!
Its old wisdom.
I'm going to use it.
I'll remember.

I dont want to use fungicides or pesticdes, want to keep soil healthy...its okay if the occasional weed crops up. I think the trick is to keep your soil covered,,,but not too thick that it doesn't aerate well.

[link to www.backtoedenfilm.com]

Wonder if some of this guys techniques are same as old Irish.
He has great results.
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Time for a bit of Tommy.

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When I get back, have a rather bizarre experience from the pub last night. If I have time, I will write it up.

Nutshell: Strange guy, very dark energy, said some bizarre things. Was very out of place for this neighborhood pub.
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Oh, do tell! I'm out for the day as well. Birthday party at the lake. Not exactly something I'm in the mood for while eating no carbs and that time of month but oh well. Manners call for making the obligatory appearance. Hopefully I can be out of there by dinner time. Everyone cross your fingers I don't crash the jet ski LOL.

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Hi All, I'm back for a half an hour or so.

People love bunches of roses is the sentence you have to remember.

Year 1
People = potatoes VEG BED 1
Love = Legumes VEG BED 2
Bunches = Brassicas VEG BED 3
Of = Onions VEG BED 4
Roses = Roots VEG BED 5


So Year 2

You put your Roots in what was your potatoe bed.
Potatoes into the legume bed
Legumes into the brassica bed
Brassicas into the onion bed
and onions into the root bed.

It's a type of rotation that keeps the soil healthy and therefore plants happy and disease free.

I hope this makes better sense :D



Wow...
That's an old way of agriculture.
Soil rotation... it was used together with agricultural lunar calendars.
Few people are still using it - but is a very beneficial way for both soil and people.

Thank you for sharing it and explaining it in such an easy way :-)


hf


Totally welcome.
Now that you mention lunar calendars I also have a monthly hunting calendar based on the full moon hunts or lamping as it is called now for animal sustainability. Now THAT is ancient. Leave it with me I have to dig it out.

We used to have laws in Ireland called the Brehon Laws and some of the laws were all about not cutting certain trees and how to have a society live sustainably.

It's a small island after all.


Oh Thank you so much!!
Its old wisdom.
I'm going to use it.
I'll remember.

I dont want to use fungicides or pesticdes, want to keep soil healthy...its okay if the occasional weed crops up. I think the trick is to keep your soil covered,,,but not too thick that it doesn't aerate well.

[link to www.] backtoedenfilm.com/how-to-grow-an-organic-garden.html

Wonder if some of this guys techniques are same as old Irish.
He has great results.


Thanks for that I'm going to have a look.
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Time for a bit of Tommy.

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lmao

Nice
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When I get back, have a rather bizarre experience from the pub last night. If I have time, I will write it up.

Nutshell: Strange guy, very dark energy, said some bizarre things. Was very out of place for this neighborhood pub.
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Oh, do tell! I'm out for the day as well. Birthday party at the lake. Not exactly something I'm in the mood for while eating no carbs and that time of month but oh well. Manners call for making the obligatory appearance. Hopefully I can be out of there by dinner time. Everyone cross your fingers I don't crash the jet ski LOL.
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hi Miss Mila!

Oooh. Thats hard at first.
Try this recipe if you really miss bread. Its grain free.
I cant eat regular bread unless its organic. So I either bake it myself from organic flour or do this grain free one which is super quick and easy.

Almost no carbs. The almond flour works great. I tried coconut flour yesterday but it flopped. Trying again today.
If you are eating ketogenic, it fits perfectly.

[link to mariamindbodyhealth.com]

MAKE SURE you watch her video at the end of the page before trying this out! She shows you what to do.
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When I get back, have a rather bizarre experience from the pub last night. If I have time, I will write it up.

Nutshell: Strange guy, very dark energy, said some bizarre things. Was very out of place for this neighborhood pub.
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I can't wait for this story!
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Hmm. Am interested as well. Greatly so.





GLP