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I will tell you some secrets for no other reason than to jade my family. I am of the bloodlines.

 
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Is this your attempt to control the conversation with feelings?

To make me look mean and unyielding with an emotional argument implying and projecting I am doing something I am not? To put me in my place with a feelings based argument to make me look I am doing something I am not?

That has no power here. Your feelings are your own. If you lie to yourself and pretend you are not allowed to share your view point that is in you. I will not tolerate emotional rebuttals with no basis in reality in an attempt to feel like you have some kind of control though. We are not children.

This us grown up talk. I told you plainly. You can accept that what I say us true or get defensive and pretend I am being mean to you to Garner emotional support but it is not real. You are not being attacked . Unless you will admit you are attacking yourself and blaming it on me for being straightforward with you.

Do not ever pretend I bullied you or acted like you could not express your opinion again though. That is dishonest and you know it. Do not Even hint at it.

I will not be treated that way. If you can control your emotions before responding you will see I am not attacking you now either.

If you can not handle me treating you as an equal then this will not work because that is what I am doing. I would speak to a man in exactly the same manner. So no acting like adult perceptions are something they are not here. You are not being attacked or bullied. You are having an adult conversation where gender is irrelevant.

If you can handle that.
 Quoting: Merit



Again I respectfully say, that you write so much here yet say so little to me other than "You're wrong about everything".

I never implied I was being "bullied" by you. I also don't see how my response could be construed as being "emotional" and an attempt at trying to gather an emotional response from others. I am offering my viewpoint, so if you choose to see that as some kind of emotional manipulation tactic, well, then that is naturally your choice.

On the other hand Merit, it does seem as though, unless I constantly say "I agree I agree" then your tone seems to become antagonistic. Fair do's, it's your call...


You are "King" afterall and this is your thread afterall.

So if you would prefer that I go back to being a "lurker" and not offer my input then I will kindly oblige.
 Quoting: Lady A


I am not responsible for the false perceptions of me or my intentions your feelings invoke. I realize that is hard for some people to come to grips with. That if thier feelings lead them to a wrong conclusion it is their fault for using thier feelings incorrectly and giving them too much power over thier mind. Not the person they misunderstood because of thier emotion.

Welcome to high minded personal responsibility land. It is rough up here until you get acclimated to the climate.

I have one view point. I have learned over the years to tell it one way. It gets interpreted various ways. Not because I told it wrong, because I tell it the same way everytime, but because the emotion of the person hearing/reading it makes it different in thier mind.

I should not have to tailor make a hard fact to be more palatable to adults on a person by person basis.
We are adults. We can speak frankly and expect other intelligent adults to use discernment and not become too emotional to process the information.

Obviously you are wrong about what you repeatedly have projected as you continue to express your opinion freely. Which you implied you can not do.

I can only assume you are looking for an apology or some such action and the only thing I am sorry about is that you continue to act like you have been wronged somehow so the conversation can not move forward. I am not sorry for treating you like an equal that I believe can handle blunt opinions.

This is the last time I will tell you. Do not imply in any way again I am pushing you out. I will not tolerate it again. Do not play emotional games. I have spoken to you plainly. Either you can handle it or you can not. The weird perception you need to leave is based on your feelings not your mind and is not my responsibility and I will not answer to another accusation of yours projecting that is what I want. That is your decision and has nothing to do with me or my actions. Period. Two plus two is four.

Please, shop being childish.
 Quoting: Merit


If nothing else then I do appreciate you taking the time to formulate your authoritive and passionate replies to my posts.

I see that no matter how I try to express my viewpoints, it will be construed by you to be too emotional and too childish.

If there's something I appreciate in this life it is blunt opinions and facts, but I also appreciate the less tangible facets of the psyche and life too.

I can discuss these elsewhere.

I yield.

Two plus two is four and with that said, I'm out the door.

It's been a fun journey all, and may you all find what you've been looking for hf
 Quoting: Lady A


It's unfortunate you could not be bigger and had to yield to your emotions. I thought you bigger than that. Come back when you understand what you did. You will not force an apology out of me to gain control for something I am truthfully not sorry for. I am disappointed you would even play that game with me.

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thanks merit for answering all these questions

got a few more when you are not busy

1) what's on the dark side of the moon?

2) the wizard of oz? innocent movie for kids or a hidden message for adults?

3) did moses talk to a god/alien/further advanced being? or did he make it all up in order to control a group of people?

4) is there a curent hidden agenda against whites/caucasians? reason i ask is for the past few years it seems people who shouldn't be attending college (poor grades) are getting full ride scholarships b/c of the color of their skin and only b/c of it. (no athletic/music talent just a regular student)
I also noticed that other races can use racial slurs on tv against whites (cracker honkey white boy) and the media lets it pass without a peep.
Last but not least i had a buddy who worked at a chain dept store as a hiring manager and told me that they (HUman resources) prefer to hire minorities over whites these days. (he didnt know why but his theory was the store gets a kick back for it) he said he would make a pick for a new employee (white person) get the guys paperwork started and someone would show up/call from HR with their own new employee who would be a non white. he has inquried over and over about it but the people above him are keeping him in the dark.



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:seshat:
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Omg. Where is seshat when we really need her.

LOL
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I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.
 Quoting: Merit

The missing link is that people are mostly unaware that their FEELINGS are the FUEL that cause their THOUGHTS to manifest.

So yes as long as you can manipulate peoples FEELINGS and they are UNAWARE of their own thoughts, then you can have them manifest the reality that best serves YOU.

You seem impatient and harsh all of a sudden.

I gather that I am allowed to share my viewpoint without being patronized and disergarded yes?
 Quoting: Lady A

I've learned some things from you guys, especially you Merit, so I'm going to attempt a bit of neutrality here. Texting = misunderstandings. You can't hear their voice, see their face, or read their body language. Merit's post can be read either way. The "fact" (my perspective, which includes intuition) that he has been consistently neutral, tells me that his post wasn't of harsh intent. I ALSO understand Lady A's perception and response.

She knows that he IS human, not perfect, and also sees it unlikely that he'll admit to being wrong himself, in this case at least, (but I've seen him admit things before). She, like most of us, are used to offense/defense in this world. Her reaction is not unexpected or even necessarily 'wrong'. It's more like natural, based on life experience. This is why I OCD my posts before posting.. I read and re-read trying to see all perspectives, to stand in other shoes. IMO, neither of you are truly to blame, nor 'wrong'. To ME, truth is YOU, each of you.

P.S. I took so long to write this, maybe you guys already made peace.
 Quoting: Pavana


Bump for your peace pipe. Weighed like feathers and wood.
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Have you ever seen the dark side of the moon synchronized with the wizard of oz? Whoa.
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You will have to excuse my passion. This is where the rubber meets the road though so to speak .

This is the subject where I find out just how old a soul is and just how far it can go this time around.

When the reality of the universe hits you and it is not a fluffy rainbow but a hard set of rules that puts feelings in a tool box next to the other tools. Not out front leading the charge.
 Quoting: Merit


Again...I never said feelings were more important than facts...YOU said facts were more important than feelings...

I said balance between the two...That they are equally important.

Why this confusion between us?
 Quoting: Lady A


But facts *are* more important than feelings -- in the long game.

If We want to escape the matrix reality we live in, We must understand that feelings are one of the yokes we are saddled with to keep us here and that they are largely engendered first in the ego, and then in the soul.

Once We overcome the egoic tendencies (the seven deadly sins) and then overcome the overwhelmingly compassionate response of the soul, then, and only then can We find balance. And that is when We can walk the narrow path to it's ultimate destination and graduate from this mortal coil. There is 'truth' (what seems true within the game / matrix, i.e. do aliens exist? yes, within the game that is 'true', and then there is TRUTH ... Do Aliens Exist? No, outside the game there is only Us)

As far as We can see from here, as far as anyone here has gone and reported back, that is the TRUTH. There is no emotion, there is only 'fact'.

And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When We finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will We find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if We will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
 Quoting: tandym


You could argue reincarnation is the game.
 Quoting: Merit


Oh I won't argue that at all. That is the First & Second games rolled into one. The third game however, is outside of reincarnation but not yet outside this universe... in my opionion... as of today. Tomorrow, I may have a new synchronicity, a new piece of the puzzle that will change my entire perspective. It happens... I allow it to happen since my ultimate goal is to understand the TRUTH ... not just the truth or the Truth. chuckle

I look forward to whatever is next after this place. I'm almost ready to go, but I have a few things left on my agenda to accomplish first. By the time this body dies, I will be ready to go. hf
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Holy hell. Where to start ??
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Lol. Welcome back.
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Ok... LJS wears a size 7 shoe, I think...
Most here prefer Chapstick (mango and Pina colada my favs)
Freckles are good
One should never take pictures of their feet when intoxicated
Shoes are bad, m'kay
Mascara and eyebrow pencil is a must for Mila or else she'll look like a vampire (or some other eyebrow less creature)
Troll suck



Hopefully that helps lmfao
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Thought it was a size 5. scratching
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Yep. Size 5. Midget feet.

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And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When we finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will we find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if we will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
 Quoting: tandym


For my understanding of things i don't think that we will be able to remember the experience we had/have in this "game".

Once a new "game" begins, it may come with a different background and a different set of rules.
Thus trying to navigate the "game" based on the knowledge gathered in a different "game" you played is as futile as trying to play football using the tricks learned in the Monopoly game.

A new "game" would require a refreshed mind able to gather different knowledge - and not a filled one with too many clusters and maybe even some bad sectors.
 Quoting: Sibir


I can count at least three levels of game from where I sit here:

LIFE: The Game
ILLUMINATION: The Game
GRADUATION: The Game

Once you win 'illumination', you can keep going until you complete & win 'Graduation'... in this lifetime. So in that respect, I think I agree: while still in this system, we mostly forget what we learn (though our achievements and XP are not lost in the next go-round, we get to start another level or more 'up' from the last).

However, I like to think that our 'players' (as we are Characters) get to retain their player knowledge when they finish this game... but as they are likely trapped within their own matrix reality, perhaps they do not realize it until they can graduate from this one? Working from within to without? Maybe I am not making sense. Perhaps this is clearer: In order to even qualify to play *that* game and win, they must first graduate from the three I mentioned above.
 Quoting: tandym



I see Illumination and Graduation as levels/stages in the game called Life.

That's why maybe i see things a bit differently - and for what i understand, Me Myself and I get to play the game of Life only once.
When the game of Life is started again, there is another Me/Myself/I who will take the game from the beginning again. I guess it sounds like a sort of re-incarnation yet the difference in my perception is that what gets re-incarnated is not the previous me/myself/i that already played the game but a cleaned base energy on which another me/myself/i will grow to play the game.
However, all the knowledge accumulated in the previous game by the previous me/myself/i can be accessed if needed as much as any knowledge gathered by any other player of the Life game can be accessed at any time.

I don't know if it makes any sense to you.
In my opinion the only way to keep the actual player me/myself/i together with the player's gathered knowledge going on through different Life games is achieved through Transcendence - and not through re-incarnation.

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Again...I never said feelings were more important than facts...YOU said facts were more important than feelings...

I said balance between the two...That they are equally important.

Why this confusion between us?
 Quoting: Lady A


But facts *are* more important than feelings -- in the long game.

If We want to escape the matrix reality we live in, We must understand that feelings are one of the yokes we are saddled with to keep us here and that they are largely engendered first in the ego, and then in the soul.

Once We overcome the egoic tendencies (the seven deadly sins) and then overcome the overwhelmingly compassionate response of the soul, then, and only then can We find balance. And that is when We can walk the narrow path to it's ultimate destination and graduate from this mortal coil. There is 'truth' (what seems true within the game / matrix, i.e. do aliens exist? yes, within the game that is 'true', and then there is TRUTH ... Do Aliens Exist? No, outside the game there is only Us)

As far as We can see from here, as far as anyone here has gone and reported back, that is the TRUTH. There is no emotion, there is only 'fact'.

And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When We finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will We find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if We will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
 Quoting: tandym


You could argue reincarnation is the game.
 Quoting: Merit


Oh I won't argue that at all. That is the First & Second games rolled into one. The third game however, is outside of reincarnation but not yet outside this universe... in my opionion... as of today. Tomorrow, I may have a new synchronicity, a new piece of the puzzle that will change my entire perspective. It happens... I allow it to happen since my ultimate goal is to understand the TRUTH ... not just the truth or the Truth. chuckle

I look forward to whatever is next after this place. I'm almost ready to go, but I have a few things left on my agenda to accomplish first. By the time this body dies, I will be ready to go. hf
 Quoting: tandym


You evoked the image of Jodi Foster in Contact. "Ready to go. Ready to go."
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And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When we finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will we find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if we will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
 Quoting: tandym


For my understanding of things i don't think that we will be able to remember the experience we had/have in this "game".

Once a new "game" begins, it may come with a different background and a different set of rules.
Thus trying to navigate the "game" based on the knowledge gathered in a different "game" you played is as futile as trying to play football using the tricks learned in the Monopoly game.

A new "game" would require a refreshed mind able to gather different knowledge - and not a filled one with too many clusters and maybe even some bad sectors.
 Quoting: Sibir


I can count at least three levels of game from where I sit here:

LIFE: The Game
ILLUMINATION: The Game
GRADUATION: The Game

Once you win 'illumination', you can keep going until you complete & win 'Graduation'... in this lifetime. So in that respect, I think I agree: while still in this system, we mostly forget what we learn (though our achievements and XP are not lost in the next go-round, we get to start another level or more 'up' from the last).

However, I like to think that our 'players' (as we are Characters) get to retain their player knowledge when they finish this game... but as they are likely trapped within their own matrix reality, perhaps they do not realize it until they can graduate from this one? Working from within to without? Maybe I am not making sense. Perhaps this is clearer: In order to even qualify to play *that* game and win, they must first graduate from the three I mentioned above.
 Quoting: tandym



I see Illumination and Graduation as levels/stages in the game called Life.

That's why maybe i see things a bit differently - and for what i understand, Me Myself and I get to play the game of Life only once.
When the game of Life is started again, there is another Me/Myself/I who will take the game from the beginning again. I guess it sounds like a sort of re-incarnation yet the difference in my perception is that what gets re-incarnated is not the previous me/myself/i that already played the game but a cleaned base energy on which another me/myself/i will grow to play the game.
However, all the knowledge accumulated in the previous game by the previous me/myself/i can be accessed if needed as much as any knowledge gathered by any other player of the Life game can be accessed at any time.

I don't know if it makes any sense to you.
In my opinion the only way to keep the actual player me/myself/i together with the player's gathered knowledge going on through different Life games is achieved through Transcendence - and not through re-incarnation.
 Quoting: Sibir


I don't disagree with anything you say above. It seems we are talking from the same side (albeit slightly, and only slightly) different positions of the Mystery.
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But facts *are* more important than feelings -- in the long game.

If We want to escape the matrix reality we live in, We must understand that feelings are one of the yokes we are saddled with to keep us here and that they are largely engendered first in the ego, and then in the soul.

Once We overcome the egoic tendencies (the seven deadly sins) and then overcome the overwhelmingly compassionate response of the soul, then, and only then can We find balance. And that is when We can walk the narrow path to it's ultimate destination and graduate from this mortal coil. There is 'truth' (what seems true within the game / matrix, i.e. do aliens exist? yes, within the game that is 'true', and then there is TRUTH ... Do Aliens Exist? No, outside the game there is only Us)

As far as We can see from here, as far as anyone here has gone and reported back, that is the TRUTH. There is no emotion, there is only 'fact'.

And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When We finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will We find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if We will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
 Quoting: tandym


You could argue reincarnation is the game.
 Quoting: Merit


Oh I won't argue that at all. That is the First & Second games rolled into one. The third game however, is outside of reincarnation but not yet outside this universe... in my opionion... as of today. Tomorrow, I may have a new synchronicity, a new piece of the puzzle that will change my entire perspective. It happens... I allow it to happen since my ultimate goal is to understand the TRUTH ... not just the truth or the Truth. chuckle

I look forward to whatever is next after this place. I'm almost ready to go, but I have a few things left on my agenda to accomplish first. By the time this body dies, I will be ready to go. hf
 Quoting: tandym


You evoked the image of Jodi Foster in Contact. "Ready to go. Ready to go."
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chuckle I love that movie.

Carl Sagan was a mystic, he just didn't advertise it :-)
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Now ladies, I see you all admitting you interact with women and men completely differently . Rationalizing it. What I do not see you doing is acknowledging why that is counter productive and continuing the very cycles you are concerned about. Indeed the rationalizations only seem to be reenforcing the very thing that is the problem. Not addressing it.

Therefore ensuring it continues and this cycle will continue with it . Around and around. Just because we can reconcile our feelings with something does not mean we should. It is clearly taking us all in circles socially .

Facts are greater than feelings.


OK. I will go hide now.
 Quoting: Merit


Don't hide Merit, your input is invaluable...

I must say though, that I respectfully disagree with your statement that "facts are greater than feelings" because again, it's putting the "facts" (masculine) in opposition and of higher importance than the "feelings" (feminine)

Both are equally relevant and equally important...

Around and around up up in a spiral is life, is evolution yes?

BTW I'm glad you're back hugs
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Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
 Quoting: Merit


Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
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thanks merit for answering all these questions

got a few more when you are not busy

1) what's on the dark side of the moon?

2) the wizard of oz? innocent movie for kids or a hidden message for adults?

3) did moses talk to a god/alien/further advanced being? or did he make it all up in order to control a group of people?

4) is there a curent hidden agenda against whites/caucasians? reason i ask is for the past few years it seems people who shouldn't be attending college (poor grades) are getting full ride scholarships b/c of the color of their skin and only b/c of it. (no athletic/music talent just a regular student)
I also noticed that other races can use racial slurs on tv against whites (cracker honkey white boy) and the media lets it pass without a peep.
Last but not least i had a buddy who worked at a chain dept store as a hiring manager and told me that they (HUman resources) prefer to hire minorities over whites these days. (he didnt know why but his theory was the store gets a kick back for it) he said he would make a pick for a new employee (white person) get the guys paperwork started and someone would show up/call from HR with their own new employee who would be a non white. he has inquried over and over about it but the people above him are keeping him in the dark.



thanks


thanks
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1. The moon has obviously been inhabited . There is structures and mind shafts. They were after the helium which is an excellent energy source really.
It was also attacked multiple times, probably over the helium. That is where many of the craters are from as well as electrical storms in the galaxy. This was all before humanity as we know it even existed.

There were actually two different species mining it at once and at war at one time. One on the light sid, one on the dark. The dark side has bases yes and alien structures . I have never seen them. It is the obvious place to hide such things.

2. The book has much more to say than the movie. The same with Willy wonka and the chocolate factory. That book is quite profound actually. The wizard of oz is both, like in the style of Disney movies . Children's entertainment and a deeper meaning for children and adults alike who can glean the message being given.

3. Truthfully I have not studied Moses much actually.
Moses I believe had met nephilim through the mystery schools he was born into. So he knew of things other worldly and had connections and access to secret knowledge. Like being a member of ancient Rosicrucians. Something of that sort.
I think Noah's son Shem being Melchizedek is one of the most interesting and esoteric parts of the Bible personally and have just recently studied that again.

4. Yes obviously there is an agenda against Whites. It is blatant. Specifically white males. There is only one group of people with no special protections under the law in western society. That group of people is white males. That is a fact. Which technically makes them a minority ironically lol.

Yes the government gives tax breaks to companies and grants for filling a minority quota. This in theory should make minorities angry as they are essentially being treated like they have a disability. Accepting this treatment is accepting they are inferior and need help. If they realize it or not. Making them subservient to the system and not free.

White men have genetic advantages in that the gene pool is still very deep and diverse. They also have the advantage of being born into predominantly modern educated societies.

In a word white men are dangerous to the system. They have no reason to be subservient to anyone. This is what white privilege really is. Freedom from a master. Instead of trying to give everyone the same privilege, something white men truthfully want for everyone by and large, they are trying to take away thier freedom and the population stupidly fell for it not realizing once white men are under the boot like everyone else then the chances of anyone getting out from under it decrease by many magnitudes.


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Now ladies, I see you all admitting you interact with women and men completely differently . Rationalizing it. What I do not see you doing is acknowledging why that is counter productive and continuing the very cycles you are concerned about. Indeed the rationalizations only seem to be reenforcing the very thing that is the problem. Not addressing it.

Therefore ensuring it continues and this cycle will continue with it . Around and around. Just because we can reconcile our feelings with something does not mean we should. It is clearly taking us all in circles socially .

Facts are greater than feelings.


OK. I will go hide now.
 Quoting: Merit


Don't hide Merit, your input is invaluable...

I must say though, that I respectfully disagree with your statement that "facts are greater than feelings" because again, it's putting the "facts" (masculine) in opposition and of higher importance than the "feelings" (feminine)

Both are equally relevant and equally important...

Around and around up up in a spiral is life, is evolution yes?

BTW I'm glad you're back hugs
 Quoting: Lady A


Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
 Quoting: Merit


Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
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I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.

Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.


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Again...I never said feelings were more important than facts...YOU said facts were more important than feelings...

I said balance between the two...That they are equally important.

Why this confusion between us?
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But facts *are* more important than feelings -- in the long game.

If We want to escape the matrix reality we live in, We must understand that feelings are one of the yokes we are saddled with to keep us here and that they are largely engendered first in the ego, and then in the soul.

Once We overcome the egoic tendencies (the seven deadly sins) and then overcome the overwhelmingly compassionate response of the soul, then, and only then can We find balance. And that is when We can walk the narrow path to it's ultimate destination and graduate from this mortal coil. There is 'truth' (what seems true within the game / matrix, i.e. do aliens exist? yes, within the game that is 'true', and then there is TRUTH ... Do Aliens Exist? No, outside the game there is only Us)

As far as We can see from here, as far as anyone here has gone and reported back, that is the TRUTH. There is no emotion, there is only 'fact'.

And to switch topics...
Who knows what is on the other side of the game? When We finally graduate from here and eject into a completely unknown reality from this one ... what will We find? IMHO, another brilliant reality, that is also the first level of yet another Game. I wonder if We will be able to remember this one to helps us navigate the next?
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You could argue reincarnation is the game.
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Oh I won't argue that at all. That is the First & Second games rolled into one. The third game however, is outside of reincarnation but not yet outside this universe... in my opionion... as of today. Tomorrow, I may have a new synchronicity, a new piece of the puzzle that will change my entire perspective. It happens... I allow it to happen since my ultimate goal is to understand the TRUTH ... not just the truth or the Truth. chuckle

I look forward to whatever is next after this place. I'm almost ready to go, but I have a few things left on my agenda to accomplish first. By the time this body dies, I will be ready to go. hf
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Imma laugh when you just reincarnate to a new planet and start over lol.


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Exactly. If one is balanced, one has very little emotion about most matter, which sounds dull and lifeless, but actually isn't.
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No, it is actually peaceful for the most part.

I find when the emotions do take over, it is extremely taxing, and weakening of energy on most levels.
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Don't hide Merit, your input is invaluable...

I must say though, that I respectfully disagree with your statement that "facts are greater than feelings" because again, it's putting the "facts" (masculine) in opposition and of higher importance than the "feelings" (feminine)

Both are equally relevant and equally important...

Around and around up up in a spiral is life, is evolution yes?

BTW I'm glad you're back hugs
 Quoting: Lady A


Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
 Quoting: Merit


Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.


Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.
 Quoting: Merit

He said..

"Good Morning"


That's racist enough for some.
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Hi Merit,

I keep trying to figure out why it wont let me post my latest question..here's another shot, i'll keep it brief.

Do you know if there is a real thing called 'project baby' that adepts are working on to 'save our soul group'?

I read about it briefly in some book a while back.
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More details please.
 Quoting: Merit



I found the book - called 'war in heaven' by colin wilson.
[link to selfdefinition.org]

It basically describes a war between two groups - invisible college vs the theocrats. Baby is some sort of entity they are trying to create to help win the battle.

I suspect that since you didn't know what I meant this is just fantasy. I only asked because I brought this up in the false prophet's thread on GLP and although I didn't get an answer from him, somebody else responded and was very excited I mentioned it and said they were involved with it.

Thank you for your time.
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Merit, I like and understand how you post and comment.. it is left to the viewer to decide how to choose to react. You post factually neutral from your knowledge of experience. When giving us a "fact" that is only known to some, I would like deeper understanding. If it's not masculine and feminine, is it heart and mind or logic and intuition related? You're asking us to take this/your fact as fact, which is why I asked about what constitutes a fact.

The differing views about the banned poster are interesting too... what are the facts? Was that poster of good intent or no? It seems that feelings of perspective, and the meaning of "truth", would come into play. We can list the facts of what she posted, but still, would that be factually conclusive enough? Only she, that poster, would truly know the truth, the intent. The available facts, without her perspective or truth, could both and either confirm or negate it.

:utruth:
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Okay, I normally do not do this, but here ya go:

There was a post, prior to the twin post, a post that was immediately removed, that was a serious violation of terms of service. A violation that has immediate perma ban as the only solution. This violation put at risk the forum, and a member.

That is all I have to say on the subject, and I rarely ever justify my actions in these matters, nor am I required to.

I will tell you that things as they may appear to the user, are not always what they are in reality.

Now, the subject must be dropped.

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thanks merit for answering all these questions

got a few more when you are not busy

1) what's on the dark side of the moon?

2) the wizard of oz? innocent movie for kids or a hidden message for adults?

3) did moses talk to a god/alien/further advanced being? or did he make it all up in order to control a group of people?

4) is there a curent hidden agenda against whites/caucasians? reason i ask is for the past few years it seems people who shouldn't be attending college (poor grades) are getting full ride scholarships b/c of the color of their skin and only b/c of it. (no athletic/music talent just a regular student)
I also noticed that other races can use racial slurs on tv against whites (cracker honkey white boy) and the media lets it pass without a peep.
Last but not least i had a buddy who worked at a chain dept store as a hiring manager and told me that they (HUman resources) prefer to hire minorities over whites these days. (he didnt know why but his theory was the store gets a kick back for it) he said he would make a pick for a new employee (white person) get the guys paperwork started and someone would show up/call from HR with their own new employee who would be a non white. he has inquried over and over about it but the people above him are keeping him in the dark.



thanks


thanks
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1. The moon has obviously been inhabited . There is structures and mind shafts. They were after the helium which is an excellent energy source really.
It was also attacked multiple times, probably over the helium. That is where many of the craters are from as well as electrical storms in the galaxy. This was all before humanity as we know it even existed.

There were actually two different species mining it at once and at war at one time. One on the light sid, one on the dark. The dark side has bases yes and alien structures . I have never seen them. It is the obvious place to hide such things.

2. The book has much more to say than the movie. The same with Willy wonka and the chocolate factory. That book is quite profound actually. The wizard of oz is both, like in the style of Disney movies . Children's entertainment and a deeper meaning for children and adults alike who can glean the message being given.

3. Truthfully I have not studied Moses much actually.
Moses I believe had met nephilim through the mystery schools he was born into. So he knew of things other worldly and had connections and access to secret knowledge. Like being a member of ancient Rosicrucians. Something of that sort.
I think Noah's son Shem being Melchizedek is one of the most interesting and esoteric parts of the Bible personally and have just recently studied that again.

4. Yes obviously there is an agenda against Whites. It is blatant. Specifically white males. There is only one group of people with no special protections under the law in western society. That group of people is white males. That is a fact. Which technically makes them a minority ironically lol.

Yes the government gives tax breaks to companies and grants for filling a minority quota. This in theory should make minorities angry as they are essentially being treated like they have a disability. Accepting this treatment is accepting they are inferior and need help. If they realize it or not. Making them subservient to the system and not free.

White men have genetic advantages in that the gene pool is still very deep and diverse. They also have the advantage of being born into predominantly modern educated societies.

In a word white men are dangerous to the system. They have no reason to be subservient to anyone. This is what white privilege really is. Freedom from a master. Instead of trying to give everyone the same privilege, something white men truthfully want for everyone by and large, they are trying to take away thier freedom and the population stupidly fell for it not realizing once white men are under the boot like everyone else then the chances of anyone getting out from under it decrease by many magnitudes.
 Quoting: Merit

I finally clicked on this thread because of its longevity.

In answer to question 2 about the Wizard of Oz - It is an obvious political satire. It starts off with an evil banker woman threatening to take Dorothy's whole farm because her dog nipped at her - (pointing to a corrupted justice system). A Tornado (USA civil war?) and Dorothy realises that she is not in Kansas any more (loss of state rights). She is told to find the wizard controlling things (Illuminati). Follow the Yellow Brick Road (follow the money, the gold bricks) to the Land of Oz (Au ozs) where "we get up at 12:00 and start to work at 1:00, take and hour for lunch at then at 2:00 we're done - jolly god fun"(bankers' hours - they do no work and yet get rich). On her travels she meets a straw man (the mindless corporation), a tin man (the industrial wage slave), and a soldier (the cowardly lion). The straw man gets a college degree in substitute of wisdom. The tin man gets the classic retirement present - a watch for showing up on time for 40 years, now you don't need a watch anymore (the pressure drop after 40 years of sacrificing family life for overtime can be deadly on your heart if not managed well), and the cowardly lion who terrorises children and civilians gets a medal for bravery. In the end, the Illuminati wizard turns out to be just another mortal hiding behind a curtain of special effects. We can go back to Kansas if we only would wish for it.
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thanks merit for answering all these questions

got a few more when you are not busy

1) what's on the dark side of the moon?

2) the wizard of oz? innocent movie for kids or a hidden message for adults?

3) did moses talk to a god/alien/further advanced being? or did he make it all up in order to control a group of people?

4) is there a curent hidden agenda against whites/caucasians? reason i ask is for the past few years it seems people who shouldn't be attending college (poor grades) are getting full ride scholarships b/c of the color of their skin and only b/c of it. (no athletic/music talent just a regular student)
I also noticed that other races can use racial slurs on tv against whites (cracker honkey white boy) and the media lets it pass without a peep.
Last but not least i had a buddy who worked at a chain dept store as a hiring manager and told me that they (HUman resources) prefer to hire minorities over whites these days. (he didnt know why but his theory was the store gets a kick back for it) he said he would make a pick for a new employee (white person) get the guys paperwork started and someone would show up/call from HR with their own new employee who would be a non white. he has inquried over and over about it but the people above him are keeping him in the dark.



thanks


thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72670110


1. The moon has obviously been inhabited . There is structures and mind shafts. They were after the helium which is an excellent energy source really.
It was also attacked multiple times, probably over the helium. That is where many of the craters are from as well as electrical storms in the galaxy. This was all before humanity as we know it even existed.

There were actually two different species mining it at once and at war at one time. One on the light sid, one on the dark. The dark side has bases yes and alien structures . I have never seen them. It is the obvious place to hide such things.

2. The book has much more to say than the movie. The same with Willy wonka and the chocolate factory. That book is quite profound actually. The wizard of oz is both, like in the style of Disney movies . Children's entertainment and a deeper meaning for children and adults alike who can glean the message being given.

3. Truthfully I have not studied Moses much actually.
Moses I believe had met nephilim through the mystery schools he was born into. So he knew of things other worldly and had connections and access to secret knowledge. Like being a member of ancient Rosicrucians. Something of that sort.
I think Noah's son Shem being Melchizedek is one of the most interesting and esoteric parts of the Bible personally and have just recently studied that again.

4. Yes obviously there is an agenda against Whites. It is blatant. Specifically white males. There is only one group of people with no special protections under the law in western society. That group of people is white males. That is a fact. Which technically makes them a minority ironically lol.

Yes the government gives tax breaks to companies and grants for filling a minority quota. This in theory should make minorities angry as they are essentially being treated like they have a disability. Accepting this treatment is accepting they are inferior and need help. If they realize it or not. Making them subservient to the system and not free.

White men have genetic advantages in that the gene pool is still very deep and diverse. They also have the advantage of being born into predominantly modern educated societies.

In a word white men are dangerous to the system. They have no reason to be subservient to anyone. This is what white privilege really is. Freedom from a master. Instead of trying to give everyone the same privilege, something white men truthfully want for everyone by and large, they are trying to take away thier freedom and the population stupidly fell for it not realizing once white men are under the boot like everyone else then the chances of anyone getting out from under it decrease by many magnitudes.
 Quoting: Merit

I finally clicked on this thread because of its longevity.

In answer to question 2 about the Wizard of Oz - It is an obvious political satire. It starts off with an evil banker woman threatening to take Dorothy's whole farm because her dog nipped at her - (pointing to a corrupted justice system). A Tornado (USA civil war?) and Dorothy realises that she is not in Kansas any more (loss of state rights). She is told to find the wizard controlling things (Illuminati). Follow the Yellow Brick Road (follow the money, the gold bricks) to the Land of Oz (Au ozs) where "we get up at 12:00 and start to work at 1:00, take and hour for lunch at then at 2:00 we're done - jolly god fun"(bankers' hours - they do no work and yet get rich). On her travels she meets a straw man (the mindless corporation), a tin man (the industrial wage slave), and a soldier (the cowardly lion). The straw man gets a college degree in substitute of wisdom. The tin man gets the classic retirement present - a watch for showing up on time for 40 years, now you don't need a watch anymore (the pressure drop after 40 years of sacrificing family life for overtime can be deadly on your heart if not managed well), and the cowardly lion who terrorises children and civilians gets a medal for bravery. In the end, the Illuminati wizard turns out to be just another mortal hiding behind a curtain of special effects. We can go back to Kansas if we only would wish for it.
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Very nice.

Willy wonka?


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Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
 Quoting: Merit


Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.


Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.
 Quoting: Merit

He said..

"Good Morning"


That's racist enough for some.
 Quoting: AQUABRAT


That Bastard. Now I am voting Johnson!jerkit


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Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.


Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.
 Quoting: Merit

He said..

"Good Morning"


That's racist enough for some.
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That Bastard. Now I am voting Johnson!jerkit
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Don't hide Merit, your input is invaluable...

I must say though, that I respectfully disagree with your statement that "facts are greater than feelings" because again, it's putting the "facts" (masculine) in opposition and of higher importance than the "feelings" (feminine)

Both are equally relevant and equally important...

Around and around up up in a spiral is life, is evolution yes?

BTW I'm glad you're back hugs
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Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
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Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
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I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.

Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.
 Quoting: Merit


When people have told me that, I always go to the actual speech he was giving, and listen to the entire thought line. Have found every time, the person to be parroting something taken out of context. I will then show them the entire speech in context, and they become angry, and tell me that they "know" his "meaning" was racist. I ask, "How could you possibly know what he was thinking, and as a result, the real meaning you allege is behind the statement"

That is when they really go off the rails, and I usually get called a name, or accused of being intellectually deficient.
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You could argue reincarnation is the game.
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Oh I won't argue that at all. That is the First & Second games rolled into one. The third game however, is outside of reincarnation but not yet outside this universe... in my opionion... as of today. Tomorrow, I may have a new synchronicity, a new piece of the puzzle that will change my entire perspective. It happens... I allow it to happen since my ultimate goal is to understand the TRUTH ... not just the truth or the Truth. chuckle

I look forward to whatever is next after this place. I'm almost ready to go, but I have a few things left on my agenda to accomplish first. By the time this body dies, I will be ready to go. hf
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You evoked the image of Jodi Foster in Contact. "Ready to go. Ready to go."
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chuckle I love that movie.

Carl Sagan was a mystic, he just didn't advertise it :-)
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I figure there have been many mystics along the way that have written some really amazing truth is stranger than fiction.

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Hi Merit,

I keep trying to figure out why it wont let me post my latest question..here's another shot, i'll keep it brief.

Do you know if there is a real thing called 'project baby' that adepts are working on to 'save our soul group'?

I read about it briefly in some book a while back.
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More details please.
 Quoting: Merit



I found the book - called 'war in heaven' by colin wilson.
[link to selfdefinition.org]

It basically describes a war between two groups - invisible college vs the theocrats. Baby is some sort of entity they are trying to create to help win the battle.

I suspect that since you didn't know what I meant this is just fantasy. I only asked because I brought this up in the false prophet's thread on GLP and although I didn't get an answer from him, somebody else responded and was very excited I mentioned it and said they were involved with it.

Thank you for your time.
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It sounds like allegory friend. Some of the greatest truths are written in fiction. I have not read it though. It sounds like it is definitely implying they are talking about something else other than what they presented it as exactly.


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I hope little miss sees my post of encouragement to her way back there. She had asked for our love and prayers. Her request just popped in my brain.
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Then you always be prone to manipulation by people who know better and there is nothing your feelings can do to change it.

Two plus two is four.

Your feelings can never change that fact. If you pretend they can when it matters, the one who knows facts are greater than feelings will always beat you in everything. Every time. I am not kidding.

I am rich because of this.

I can use facts to change your feelings, it's called psychology. You can ever change facts with your feelings. Two plus two will still be four forever.

I understand ignorance is bliss though. It is your life. Believe what you want. Being wrong is your right too. Just know the ones who run the world accept the harsh reality and do not put their feelings over reality . That is why they control so much. They are living in the real world . Not in thier preferred Disney narrative.

Now, feel free to rebuttal but I will not engage.
I have just told you and all reading the truth of the matter. You can accept it or choose ignorance on the matter and try to use your feeling to twist the facts. It only changes the facts in Ones head and ego though, not in reality or Even with you personally. It only FEELS like it does.

As long as people believe thier feelings control reality in anyway and overcome facts they will always be controlled as they are now. Indeed that is how the controllers control you all.

With the facts that control your feelings.

I will let that settle in. I swear to you it is the truth and I will always beat anyone who tries to "win" using feelings. As it is a trap designed by the nefarious blood lines and one of the most potent weapons at us "elites" disposal.

As long as people think they will defeat the power structure with feelings the power structure will never fear.
 Quoting: Merit


Agree with you Merit, but have had to completely give up on reasoning with some people who are convinced their feelings are facts. It seems no matter how many facts you place before them, they are purely emotion driven and only become more, and more, irrational the more you try to communicate with them.

I am thinking a lot about some liberals here. Try to reason with them, place facts before them, and all they do is become shrill and start name calling and saying crap about how people like me only want to hurt others, and just don't want to share. Like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I am still waiting on someone to tell me something Trump said that was racist.

Just one thing. I have put that question to so many people and have yet to get an answer.

Maybe he did say something racist I don't know . I just haven't seen anything yet. I keep hoping these people screaming racist will show one example before I die. Surely they can find one I figure.
 Quoting: Merit


When people have told me that, I always go to the actual speech he was giving, and listen to the entire thought line. Have found every time, the person to be parroting something taken out of context. I will then show them the entire speech in context, and they become angry, and tell me that they "know" his "meaning" was racist. I ask, "How could you possibly know what he was thinking, and as a result, the real meaning you allege is behind the statement"

That is when they really go off the rails, and I usually get called a name, or accused of being intellectually deficient.
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Lovely, you made them feel dumb because they fell for propaganda and did not research, so they called you dumb to project thier feelings on to you.

People really need to realize that play is not some super secret ninja move no one knows about. Literally every person caught looking dumb does it automatically these days.


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Where even to start. The first problem is people are making false connections.

Facts and feelings are not opposites. -- No, they are unrelated. Like a feather and a hammer. Completely different yes, opposites no. See the subtle but important difference? Treating them as opposites puts them in competition when they are not.

What could a feather and a hammer possibly fight over?

The opposite of feelings is Zen/Nirvana. Nothingness.

The opposite of facts is lies.

See how screwed up the whole conversation has become?

Heart and mind makes more sense to argue I guess.

Heart and mind temper each other. Neither letting the other go too far and reinforcing the other when weak.
Ideally that is. They can also poison each other.

People want to over simplify and give one or the other the lead. Which leads is a situational decision. It changes depending on the situation. There is no shortcut where you Pick one or the other and make it work most the time. That is amateur , if you will. You switch back and forth constantly to maintain a balance. You choose the right tool for the job.

Emotions are easily manipulated and they lie to us all the time. That is a fact. So in a very real way we can not trust them fully because they are so easily swayed with science. Hard but true.

That is where our mind comes in. It puts the brakes on our emotions and remembers psychology and recognizes when we are being manipulated for us.

In society it is the stronger blade.

Feelings inspire and motivate us, or cripple us. Feelings point us in a direction. That is obviously an important thing. They do not make decisions for us though, that is the minds job.

Do not you use the wrong tool for the job.

If it must be simplified think of emotion as your gas pedal and your mind as the break pedal.

Make sense?

Emotion may get you there faster but your mind gets you thier alive and uninjured.
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Argh, I'm getting behind. I want to re-read all these posts & think about it some more.

When you say "Facts > feelings", it naturally leads us to the assumption of competition of which you say they are not. The mere statement implies such, hence the confusion, imo. My son also places logic over emotion, but says that lack of emotion is not suitable (overall). Balance. Feelings also teach us how to relate to others with compassion and understanding. Logic and feelings applied together properly help us form our responses. The visual of imagining a world, or most situations, of one without the other, or always over the other, doesn't sound too appealing to me. I understand that's not exactly what you're saying; I'm just having an issue with firmly deciding that facts are always greater (as in better) than feelings, partly because of the definition of facts itself.

If an elder was standing in the way of an oncoming car and there was only time to save ONE by pushing them out of harm's way and placing yourself at risk instead, logic might tell me that the odds are not worth the risks or that it wouldn't be logical for a younger one to die over an older one. But my heart, feelings and emotions might tell me otherwise. Who is to say that logic is the "right" choice? Then we'd have to expand into defining right and wrong. Right (better) for who? To me, it goes back to personal truth. (Sorry about that graphic example.) If we didn't sometimes use heartfelt selflessness over logic, the world would be a shittier place imo. The homeless come to mind.

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MILA!
Fix my husbands pain! Navy Drs botched a surgery- please if you can!
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AquaBrat, check out this book.

Pain Free by Pete Egoscue
[link to www.alibris.com]

He's had good results with all sorts of damage, including his own, which prompted him to develop his techniques in the first place.
Amazing results for me and I only used the book. I think he still has a clinic too, if you have that option though.

hf
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But his pain is Dom a portion of his clavicle being removed and being left with a sharred bone.
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