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Is California becoming a medical police state?

Health Impact News Editor Comments

In a brazen act of medical tyranny, California recently became the first state in the U.S. where lawmakers removed religious exemptions to those opposing vaccines for their children. The bill now signed into law, SB277, faces legal hurdles in court next.

Now, legislators in California want to pass the “first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply.” SB 792, would eliminate an adult’s right to exempt themselves from one, some, or all vaccines, a risk-laden medical procedure.

Will California soon become a medical police state?

URGENT ACTION ALERT Monday July 13, 2015

SB792- The first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions (only medical exemptions approved by a doctor and defined by the bill) and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply will be heard in the California Assembly Human Services Committee this Tuesday July 14th at 1:30 in Room 437.
[link to vaccineimpact.com]
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CA holds over 10% of the country's population.

As goes California, so goes New York and another %5-ish of the population.
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:ohlook:
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All foreign adults should get it mandatory, they are spreading diseases throught this country.
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I bet they will give illegals and refugees a pass on it and when they do you refuse too!
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All foreign adults should get it mandatory, they are spreading diseases throught this country.
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you right retards around your area cached your brain eating worm, so sad.
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In a brazen act of medical tyranny, California recently became the first state in the U.S. where lawmakers removed religious exemptions to those opposing vaccines for their children.
 Quoting: Truth be Told 70533964




except for muslims.
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Glad I don't live there, but this rule will be easy to ignore. The hellth mafia is all bluster and no teeth.
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All in violation of your personal sovereignty and dismissal of the Nuremberg code never mind the foreign genetic material may embed itself permanently into your DNA and be transmissible to your future offspring. If that isn't repugnant enough, the said genetic material may have been harvested from aborted humans and or animals thus adulterating you as you become a chimera. Tyrants!
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Is California becoming a medical police state?

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In a brazen act of medical tyranny, California recently became the first state in the U.S. where lawmakers removed religious exemptions to those opposing vaccines for their children. The bill now signed into law, SB277, faces legal hurdles in court next.

Now, legislators in California want to pass the “first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply.” SB 792, would eliminate an adult’s right to exempt themselves from one, some, or all vaccines, a risk-laden medical procedure.

Will California soon become a medical police state?

URGENT ACTION ALERT Monday July 13, 2015

SB792- The first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions (only medical exemptions approved by a doctor and defined by the bill) and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply will be heard in the California Assembly Human Services Committee this Tuesday July 14th at 1:30 in Room 437.
[link to vaccineimpact.com]
 Quoting: Truth be Told 70533964


Which lunatic site is flogging this old story such that the anti-vaccine loons here at GLP are mindlessly posting this?
A few days ago: Thread: California to Become First State to Mandate Adult Vaccines: Or Pay The Price

In case you didn't know, SB792 passed and was signed into law October 2015.
It only affects Day Care Workers.
It mandates vaccination for Flu, Pertussis, and Measles.

Here's the actual bill:
[link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)]

Here's a Fact Sheet about the new Day Care Regulations due to SB792 (pdf):
[link to www.sccgov.org (secure)]

Please look at the actual bill and quote where it provides "CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply".
It doesn't, does it?
Note that at the top of the original bill the "LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST" states specifically:
"The bill would provide that a violation of these provisions would not be subject to a crime."

It looks like vaccineimpact.com is lying to you. Will you now denounce vaccineimpact as a moronic disinformation site and never trust it again? ... I didn't think so.

Carry on feeding on the disinfo. I can hear the bleating from here.


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Is California becoming a medical police state?

Health Impact News Editor Comments

In a brazen act of medical tyranny, California recently became the first state in the U.S. where lawmakers removed religious exemptions to those opposing vaccines for their children. The bill now signed into law, SB277, faces legal hurdles in court next.

Now, legislators in California want to pass the “first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply.” SB 792, would eliminate an adult’s right to exempt themselves from one, some, or all vaccines, a risk-laden medical procedure.

Will California soon become a medical police state?

URGENT ACTION ALERT Monday July 13, 2015

SB792- The first US adult vaccine mandate with NO personal exemptions (only medical exemptions approved by a doctor and defined by the bill) and CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply will be heard in the California Assembly Human Services Committee this Tuesday July 14th at 1:30 in Room 437.
[link to vaccineimpact.com]
 Quoting: Truth be Told 70533964


Which lunatic site is flogging this old story such that the anti-vaccine loons here at GLP are mindlessly posting this?
A few days ago: Thread: California to Become First State to Mandate Adult Vaccines: Or Pay The Price

In case you didn't know, SB792 passed and was signed into law October 2015.
It only affects Day Care Workers.
It mandates vaccination for Flu, Pertussis, and Measles.

Here's the actual bill:
[link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)]

Here's a Fact Sheet about the new Day Care Regulations due to SB792 (pdf):
[link to www.sccgov.org (secure)]

Please look at the actual bill and quote where it provides "CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply".
It doesn't, does it?
Note that at the top of the original bill the "LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST" states specifically:
"The bill would provide that a violation of these provisions would not be subject to a crime."

It looks like vaccineimpact.com is lying to you. Will you now denounce vaccineimpact as a moronic disinformation site and never trust it again? ... I didn't think so.

Carry on feeding on the disinfo. I can hear the bleating from here.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


"....moronic disinformation...." potkettle

that's rich coming from someone who claims "vaccines don't cause autism". The VAERS database shows several events where vaccines have induced autism / developmental regression in children (see events 530781, 500885, 474632 etc)
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Which lunatic site is flogging this old story such that the anti-vaccine loons here at GLP are mindlessly posting this?
A few days ago: Thread: California to Become First State to Mandate Adult Vaccines: Or Pay The Price

In case you didn't know, SB792 passed and was signed into law October 2015.
It only affects Day Care Workers.
It mandates vaccination for Flu, Pertussis, and Measles.

Here's the actual bill:
[link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)]

Here's a Fact Sheet about the new Day Care Regulations due to SB792 (pdf):
[link to www.sccgov.org (secure)]

Please look at the actual bill and quote where it provides "CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply".
It doesn't, does it?
Note that at the top of the original bill the "LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST" states specifically:
"The bill would provide that a violation of these provisions would not be subject to a crime."

It looks like vaccineimpact.com is lying to you. Will you now denounce vaccineimpact as a moronic disinformation site and never trust it again? ... I didn't think so.

Carry on feeding on the disinfo. I can hear the bleating from here.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420


"....moronic disinformation...." potkettle

that's rich coming from someone who claims "vaccines don't cause autism". The VAERS database shows several events where vaccines have induced autism / developmental regression in children (see events 530781, 500885, 474632 etc)
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How cute. AC68650865, with exactly a 1 post GLP history, used a proxy to respond to my post with their fact-free post. Note how they did not address the facts of my post that the OP is a reanimation of a year old issue that has been settled. It also points out that the bill/law does not provide for "CRIMINAL penalties for failure to comply" as the lying, disinfo OP and article from vaccineimpact.com state.
For some reason, AC68650865 just ignores that the OP is a lie and seems upset with me for pointing out that you are being lied to.

Let's see just what we're dealing with here:

AC68650865,
Please go here:
[link to vaers.hhs.gov]
and read the first sentence of the VAERS data page.
What does it say?
"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established."
Please explain to the class what that sentence means, AC68650865.

Readers should ask:
What part of "no cause-and-effect relationship has been established" do anti-vaccine cultists not understand?
Are they all illiterate or merely outrageous liars?

Raw VAERS data cannot be used to say a vaccine caused anything.
Those who try to pass off VAERS data as fact are lying to you or are completely illiterate ignoramuses. That whole VAERS entry webpage is one massive warning to not do what AC68650865 is trying to do.

Why do anti-vaccinationists constantly lie?


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Read the inserts Reality420 you piece of fucking shit.

The ones that say your child has a 25% chance of having a adverse reaction involving uncontrollable screaming for over an hour. That's your child's fucking brain swelling up experiencing excruciating pain as permanent damage is being done. The ones that say don't give this vaccine with any others despite the FACT that the clinic wants to give it with two other vaccines on the same fucking day.

I hope you fucking suffer long and die soon you worthless piece of shit.
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Read the inserts Reality420 you piece of fucking shit.

The ones that say your child has a 25% chance of having a adverse reaction involving uncontrollable screaming for over an hour. That's your child's fucking brain swelling up experiencing excruciating pain as permanent damage is being done. The ones that say don't give this vaccine with any others despite the FACT that the clinic wants to give it with two other vaccines on the same fucking day.

I hope you fucking suffer long and die soon you worthless piece of shit.
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The millstone will take them where they belong, brother. I promise you this.
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Lets take a look at what some of those VAERS entries report:

530781 - Symptom_Text: By the end of the month patient went from speaking 50-75 words to becoming completely silent for half a year and has yet to regain any words a year and a half later. he was since been diagnosed with autism. He was an happy intelligent normal little boy before this vaccine and that was quickly changed after the vaccine

500885 - On the day of the vaccinations, my son developed an extremely high fever. Early the next morning (03/30/12 at approximately 7:00am), he was rushed to the hospital because of febrile seizures. Prior to the vaccinations on that day, my son was developing normally and speaking several words. After that time, he was no longer speaking. By age 2, I noticed his language still wasn't developing. I took him to his doctor and was referred to a program for speech therapy. After several evaluations, it has been determined that my son is on the spectrum for autism. We have just begun the evaluation process. He is still non-verbal and has many red flags.

474632 - My son lost all of his developing skills after this set of vaccinations at 4.5 months old. He received the DTap, HepB, IPV, HIB, Pneumococcal and Rotavirus vaccines all in the same day. He had prolonged jaundice that developed immediately after his Hepatitis B vaccine in the hospital (at birth) as well. Following these vaccines at 4.5 months old, my son could no longer bear weight on his legs, did not scooch around his crib, lost all early babbling, could not latch onto my breast to eat, would not look us in the eye, and began to lose weight. His one eye turned in and tracking did not seem normal anymore. I took him into a pediatric eye doctor to have his eyes checked. He had no vision problems, but did not look at us. He developed severe sensory problems where we could not hold him close, he did not want to touch any items and his hands stayed balled up in fists next to his ears. He could not tolerate eating or drinking and I had to syringe formula down his mouth. He developed severe GI problems, where he would stool liquid burning diahrrea 10 or more times per day. He threw up constantly. He became obsessed with paper and door springs and wheels. I immediately sought out a lactation consultant and nutritionist for my son, and rented a hospital grade pump, but he was no longer able to be close to me or latch on correctly to nurse. The GI doctor put patient on a special formula and Prevacid to help with reflux which did not help. A couple months went by and we tried to introduce solids to my son, which he refused to eat. He shook his head violently side to side. We then were referred to facility for an evaluation for feeding therapy and an evaluation for Occupational Therapy as well at 8 months old. He was diagnosed with Sensory Processing Disorder and we began feeding and occupational therapy twice each week. Feeding did not get better, GI did not get better and my son only grew in his sensory problems. As he got older more and more obsessions appeared and he became more and more disconnected from us. He developed dark circles under his eyes and drooled excessively, soaking through shirts in a matter of minutes. He was obsessed with wheels, spinning himself and banging his head on the walls. He did not look us in the eye. The formerly very social child we had brought into this world was gone. Formula had to be syringed down my son, who had to sit in a vibrating baby chair with video for distraction to syringe his formula down his mouth without him batting it away or shaking his head violently. Each bottle took us approx 2 hours to get down, 5 times per day. Solids were an even worse undertaking with crying, fighting, etc. At 10 months old, I reached out for more in home occupational therapy as my son had a horrible time going to the feeding and OT at the clinic due to sensory problems. At 11 months old, we took my son to a Holistic Pediatrician as his original Pediatrician stopped taking our insurance a few months prior. This doctor specialized in children with ADHD, autism, Autoimmune issues and Allergies which I highly suspected were a problem now. We reported what had occurred with our son to our new Pediatrician. He ran some tests and determined that patient now had all kinds of imbalances, an over growth of yeast, vitamin and mineral deficiencies that needed to be treated. This helped our son immensely. We switched formulas to a gluten and casein free type and this helped as well. When we took the labs to our current local GI doctor from Dr showing all the GI overgrowths and problems, we were dismissed by our local GI. My son was also tested for MTHFR mutation, which he did have, as do many on the spectrum. I have the same mutation, but am not autistic. He has a decreased ability to excrete toxins and should never have been given so many vaccines at one time. Patient was still passing whole food in his stool and having many stools per day that were very painful for him.

___________________________________________________________

There are many more reports just like this one, and much more difficult ones that wont be included here.

The CDC have included a disclaimer to their database that states:

"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established."

It's a pretty difficult statement to accept when you have a mother/father/doctor/healthcare practitioner who lodges that report and who have firsthand witnessed the shit that went down after those vaccinations.
___________________________________________________________

By the way, that event where the child's eye(s) turns inwards is termed strabismus, or paralysis of cranial nerves. There's a paper about it right here:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Read the inserts Reality420 you piece of fucking shit.


<snip delusional babbling.>

I hope you fucking suffer long and die soon you worthless piece of shit.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze 72215283


Luv and Bud Lite and Neon Rainbows and Lollipop Skies to you too, Jonny.

I note you save your vitriol for me and not the OP and the lying, dishonest, disinfo article and website. Apparently you enjoy being lied to by functional illiterates and ignoramuses.

Fascinating.

Drool on, Jonny.


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Read the inserts Reality420 you piece of fucking shit.

The ones that say your child has a 25% chance of having a adverse reaction involving uncontrollable screaming for over an hour. That's your child's fucking brain swelling up experiencing excruciating pain as permanent damage is being done. The ones that say don't give this vaccine with any others despite the FACT that the clinic wants to give it with two other vaccines on the same fucking day.

I hope you fucking suffer long and die soon you worthless piece of shit.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze 72215283


The millstone will take them where they belong, brother. I promise you this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71876418


Is there "Criminal Penalties for those Who Refuse" as stated by the OP and article?
No?

Did you know little baby Jesus hates liars like the OP and the article and the website(s) that promote it, and here you are defending them.

How Christian of you.


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Lets take a look at what some of those VAERS entries report:

<snip a bunch of unverified, raw VAERS reports>

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68650865


How about this one?
VAERS ID: 379570
"Write-up: Information has been received from from a physician concerning a 12 year old school going girl of class eight of a village. On 20-JUL-2009, the patient received first dose of GARDASIL in the school. During the process of community mobilization for second dose of GARDASIL, the female health worker was informed that on 06-SEP-2009, the patient accidentally fell in open well (granite quarry filled with water), drowned and expired. This event occurred 49 days of receiving first dose of GARDASIL. The female health worker informed the Medical Officer in-charge, which was then communicated to District Immunization Officer. The medical officer in-charge investigated the death and completed first information report and determined that death was not related to the vaccine."

That damn vaccination threw that poor girl into that well and drown her!!!11!!!!!
I'm convinced!
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The CDC have included a disclaimer to their database that states:

"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established."

It's a pretty difficult statement to accept when you have a mother/father/doctor/healthcare practitioner who lodges that report and who have firsthand witnessed the shit that went down after those vaccinations.

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Oh, it's not just that singular statement. The whole page I cited is nothing more than a giant disclaimer explaining that the raw VAERS data cannot be used to assign causation:

[link to vaers.hhs.gov (secure)]
Some VAERS warnings from that page:
- When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.
- The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.
- Big, Bold Letters: VAERS data contains coincidental events and those truly caused by vaccines.
- VAERS is a passive reporting system,... Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.
- A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described.
- It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given.
- No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report
- DISCLAIMER: Please note that VAERS staff follow-up on all serious and other selected adverse event reports to obtain additional medical, laboratory, and/or autopsy records to help understand the concern raised.
- VAERS data should be used with caution as numbers and conditions do not reflect data collected during follow-up.
- Note that the inclusion of events in VAERS data does not imply causality.


How many times and ways do they have to say it before the illiterate anti-vaccinationists understand?
A passive reporting system cannot be used to determine cause and effect by its very nature. This is science/data/stats 101. It is not open to discussion. If you do not understand this point you have no business discussing science.

Can you guess what VAERS is good at doing?


R.

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<snip Can you guess what VAERS is good at doing? >

VAERS gives us enough insight that something isn't right with the safety of vaccinations. There are at least 480,000 events recorded in that "slim" database, and yes, while causality cannot be proved you also cannot discount the very compelling "anecdotal" accounts contained within especially when they are delivered by doctors and healthcare professionals.

Also, VAERS gives us enough insight as to the negligence that is happening within the healthcare industry when it comes to the administration of vaccines.

Refer: Thread: Vaccine maladministration. Parents DYODD
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California, for what it is, basically has become a shithole.
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[link to www.breitbart.com]

It's the law for children too!





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