A list of everyone in the bible who saw God with their own eyes.

Christ can appear as an angel and doing it one time means he could also do it before that specific time is mentioned. (in all likelihood) The Angel that stopped Abraham from killing his own child would have been that same 'angel' and this would have been Christ acting as the High Priest of Salem.

Re:22:16:
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David,
and the bright and morning star.

Judging that Abraham recognized the 'men' before they were speaking it was Christ as High Priest and two others, Gabriel and Michael possibly as they are mentioned in Daniel. It is also quite likely that Abraham's relationship with this particular Priest may not have been as good as it could have just due to the torment Abraham went through on the deal with killing his own child and when he had 'overcome that' the whole thing was called off by an Angel or Christ as an Angel and/or High Priest if his appearance is like it was in the mountain top vision with Elias and Moses and in Re:1.

The bargaining part is something I take as Abraham being a bit sarcastic and the undertone was '(Are you sure this time? You have really thought this through to the very end and nothing will ever alter that plan, right??)

Having Christ and 2 Angels there would have been when Christ was shown by God how to use a 'special fire' and He will use it on the day the 7 vials are poured out of Satan and his city Babylon. We call it Jerusalem but during the 4 days the two witnesses are dead in the streets it is in Satan control for the 4 days and then it is burned like Sodom was. Men were prevented from seeing that fire but on the day it is used against Babylon the men that are at the first horizon do witness it and they survive the event as living witnesses. 1,000 years later all the people that have been alive for that period are perfected to the point that they are more holy than fallen angels in that they are 'inside the fire' (protected by the fire) when it sends Satan and all the fallen angels to the fiery lake. The punishment for sin after that moment is to have that happen to you so there is the incentive to avoid breaking God's rules.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.

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Don't accuse, pray.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5:39

The prophets knew God was not a respecter of men, therefore why would they be? They did not speak of the Messiah as some special man, but of their God as a man. Because it was not them speaking but the Spirit through them.

I was looking up "Logos" earlier and this is a quote from the Wiki page:



There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Ephesians 4:4-6

I don't follow what you're saying here. But I have a question.

How do YOU define "blasphemy"? Or, what IS blasphemy? We want to be in agreement with what is true, so what is the truth regarding blasphemy?

Thank you for a word of fear of the Lord. However, that viewpoint implies that angels will die throughout eternity when/if they sin. What I am certain of is that we will know, as the angels did and do, that we CAN do what is wrong, but will never want to ever again knowing what disobedience can cause, yet knowing it will never happen again;

Reason how there will be no more death with your premise there will be death throughout eternity;

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 21:4

Only God can make a promise on the future. If we can't believe in his promises then we can't have faith in him.

No, the messiah wasn't supposed to be an incarnated God. And angels literally means messenger; and the messenger is by definition not the same as the one he delivers a message for. You shouldn't be quoting Justin Martyr anyway, he liver two centuries prior to the invention of the trinity. And Philo was a Hellenized Jew that blended Hebrew thought with Greek philosophy.

Can you confirm this without using the bible? Not everybody believes in the bible and it would be nice if the number, for once, could be confirmed from other sources. How come historians of that time did not have much to say about Jesus if he really did all the miracles he was supposed to have worked? All I hear is what the bible says. It's like me writing a book and just quoting from my book to dispel any doubts.

Yoshua walked with me on some bad days. I think we also played basketball together.

Hey, I just wrote the book "The Words of Abracadabra". In it Abracadabra is the only god you will need and it will send its son, Pokémon, to save you all. All it asks is you believe in it and worship it. In return it will give you eternal life at its right side in heaven. Pokémon will work miracles and raise people from the dead. But historians will not know him. Who cares. You will have the book "The Words of Abracadabra" to quote from.

The book will be sold for $100, down from its usual price of $300. Shucks, I do need a new home and a new car.

Who is the Father and the Holy Ghost when Jesus commands his followers to baptize others in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19)? Why are they so important and not one out of the 3?

From the op link I did a quick count/guesstimate using the verses.

if you people do not put away your bibles and start observing your real world and yourselves you will never know God.

no, people need to be reading their bibles now more than ever. What needs to be put down is the satanic craprantia book and fauxnix journals.

very interesting OP.

Still reigns.

Joh:1:18:
No man hath seen God at any time;
the only begotten Son,
which is in the bosom of the Father,
he hath declared him.

So this confirms that Jesus is not God.

WHAT IF....

Jesus was just a man with mad magician skills like Criss Angel?

Couldn't that explain away most everything you've read to be mystical? water to wine, rising from the dead, etc.. etc.

Just a thought.

The power if Satan (sorcery) is an entertaining power.
The power of God (Jesus) is a rebuking and reproving and edifying power.

One power entertains and the other makes you a better soul.

If man created language, man created god. All books are written by man. Man talk in his head and thought god talks to him.

God isn't real? Multi-MILLIONS of folks would beg to differ with your claim.

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God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

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Amen. Billions of people over the course of history. Even if people believe in the wrong God most people throughout history have believed in God. Even Hindus believe in Atma, a Supreme source. Atheists and agnostics are a minority throughout history.