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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that

 
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
I've been an atheist and a skeptic my whole life. In fact, I'm so skeptical, the only thing I know for sure is that I exist (I think therefore I am).

I understand why people would believe in a greater power, a god. That's perfectly fine.

What's weird to me is how people believe in the events of the Bible, in the existence of a person called Jesus and that he did the things he did.

Our history is very hazy, the victors write history, for all we know our entire account of history may be a lie.

So how come people don't ask themselves every damn moment of their lives if the book they consider holy isn't just propaganda. (Not necessarily the christian bible, any religious text altogether).
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Why don't you ask yourself if perhaps it IS real
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I understand where you are coming from. I considered myself an Atheist also before I had a Near Death Experience and actually met Jesus.

Since this NDE, I have been able to understand The Holy Bible.
It is something that you really have to have something called The Holy Spirit to have these things revealed to you.

You need to look inside yourself, pray, fast from the world and really seek to know the Truth. It is something very supernatural.

You are so much more then just your body and mind. It is so worth the effort my friend. Really. You have forgotten who you are.

Time is short. Don't forget Jesus is a Savior. Call on him. He answers.
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
There were witnesses retard
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
The Bible is realistically the most historically accurate book ever written so...
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Why you believe they believe that is the real question.
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the bible the most historically accurate book?

are you kidding?

look into Freedom From Religion's site to read about all the inconsistencies, etc. that are in the bible.

I feel that it IS the inspired word of God, but then, by the time humankind got its grubby hands on it, many things were left out, changed, etc......

I'm not an Atheist but do respect the 'homework' they do on the whole idea of organized religion............

so if you think the bible is 'accurate', you are VERY VERY mistaken, OP....

look into this stuff for yourself.

and this is not to take away your faith, beliefs, etc., but just to make you AWARE of what's in there!!!!
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Maybe it's real?
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Witnesses? The witnesses themselves could be made up. The witnesses might be part of this cabal that uses religion as a way to control the masses. That's just off the top of my head, there's really no hard proof that anything that the bible says is real.
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
the bible the most historically accurate book?

are you kidding?

look into Freedom From Religion's site to read about all the inconsistencies, etc. that are in the bible.

I feel that it IS the inspired word of God, but then, by the time humankind got its grubby hands on it, many things were left out, changed, etc......

I'm not an Atheist but do respect the 'homework' they do on the whole idea of organized religion............

so if you think the bible is 'accurate', you are VERY VERY mistaken, OP....

look into this stuff for yourself.

and this is not to take away your faith, beliefs, etc., but just to make you AWARE of what's in there!!!!
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Where was God when they ruined his book?
Not paying attention?


Are you?
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It is something that you really have to have something called The Holy Spirit to have these things revealed to you.

You need to look inside yourself, pray, fast from the world and really seek to know the Truth. It is something very supernatural.
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Witnesses? The witnesses themselves could be made up. The witnesses might be part of this cabal that uses religion as a way to control the masses. That's just off the top of my head, there's really no hard proof that anything that the bible says is real.
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If there was "Hard Proof" would you believe it?
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Witnesses? The witnesses themselves could be made up. The witnesses might be part of this cabal that uses religion as a way to control the masses. That's just off the top of my head, there's really no hard proof that anything that the bible says is real.
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There is a rule in the bible that, when taken in context shows that doubt kills faith.

The nature of your questions are all about doubt, and doubt is a seed of satan.

Doubt steals a persons faith, peace, and hope.

Matthew 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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And Faith.
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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What evidence?
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
I understand where you are coming from. I considered myself an Atheist also before I had a Near Death Experience and actually met Jesus.

Since this NDE, I have been able to understand The Holy Bible.
It is something that you really have to have something called The Holy Spirit to have these things revealed to you.

You need to look inside yourself, pray, fast from the world and really seek to know the Truth. It is something very supernatural.

You are so much more then just your body and mind. It is so worth the effort my friend. Really. You have forgotten who you are.

Time is short. Don't forget Jesus is a Savior. Call on him. He answers.
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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What evidence?
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See you later.


Evidence that Demands a Verdict

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The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus

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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
And Faith.
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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What evidence?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72313746


See you later.


Evidence that Demands a Verdict

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]


The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
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Yeah I heard about that book before.
[link to infidels.org]
[link to infidels.org]
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
I've been an atheist and a skeptic my whole life. In fact, I'm so skeptical, the only thing I know for sure is that I exist (I think therefore I am).

I understand why people would believe in a greater power, a god. That's perfectly fine.

What's weird to me is how people believe in the events of the Bible, in the existence of a person called Jesus and that he did the things he did.

Our history is very hazy, the victors write history, for all we know our entire account of history may be a lie.

So how come people don't ask themselves every damn moment of their lives if the book they consider holy isn't just propaganda. (Not necessarily the christian bible, any religious text altogether).
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
I think that is the wrong question.
It really doesn't matter whether it actually happened. The stories exist, the culture exists, that is the most important thing about religion.
When I listen to the St. Matthew Passion I don't really care whether it really happened or not, the stories inspire me, the principles comfort me and the beauty fills me with awe. That is what is valuable to me, not whether it is an accurate historical fact.
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
I've been an atheist and a skeptic my whole life. In fact, I'm so skeptical, the only thing I know for sure is that I exist (I think therefore I am).

I understand why people would believe in a greater power, a god. That's perfectly fine.

What's weird to me is how people believe in the events of the Bible, in the existence of a person called Jesus and that he did the things he did.

Our history is very hazy, the victors write history, for all we know our entire account of history may be a lie.

So how come people don't ask themselves every damn moment of their lives if the book they consider holy isn't just propaganda. (Not necessarily the christian bible, any religious text altogether).
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Most people are taught that the bible is gods word,
instead of going WITHIN, where all truth can be found.


The Father Fragment is within ALL, each one of us,
but sadly, this is not taught in any religion.
Religions want to be the middle man.
We dont need a middle man.

Churches are great for social activities and taking care of the community.

They fail on teaching people that they can hear GOD without a book
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Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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What evidence?
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No evidence.

Thread: I used to believe Jesus was a historical figure, but now I agree with the Christ myth thesis

Thread: Why do so many Christians insist the bible contains no contradictions when it so clearly does?
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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Because you reborn again atheist dumbfuck will never understand. I will quote one for you that is not in the Bible for this man is greater than the your whole country ever in history:

"Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Isaac Newton

"The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, and absolutely perfect." - Isaac Newton

"The supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect; but a being, however perfect, without dominion, cannot be said to be Lord God; for we say, my God, your God, the God of Israel, the God of Gods, and Lord of Lords; but we do not say, my Eternal, your Eternal, the Eternal of Israel, the Eternal of Gods; we do not say, my Infinite, or my Perfect: These are titles which have no respect to servants. The word God usually signifies Lord; but every lord is not a God. It is the dominion of a spiritual being which constitutes a God; a true, supreme or imaginary dominion makes a true, supreme or imaginary God. And from his true dominion it follows, that the true God is a Living, Intelligent and Powerful Being; and from his other perfections, that he is Supreme or most Perfect. He is Eternal and Infinite, Omnipotent and Omniscient; that is, his duration reaches from Eternity to Eternity; his presence from Infinity to Infinity; he governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done. He is not Eternity or Infinity, but Eternal and Infinite; he is not Duration or Space, but he endures and is present. He endures for ever, and is every where present; and by existing always and every where, he constitutes Duration and Space. - Isaac Newton


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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
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Evidence.
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What evidence?
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No evidence.

Thread: I used to believe Jesus was a historical figure, but now I agree with the Christ myth thesis

Thread: Why do so many Christians insist the bible contains no contradictions when it so clearly does?
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For the same reason why people walk around with a shirt and shoes that have a check emblem...walking around with their pants down showing people their boxers...put breast and butt implants in their bodies..etc..etc...the list is never-ending the point is people are followers and seek to belong to a certain group..religion is just another group for people to follow... no followers=no religion..just like your own family generation year after year a member that lived is gone and forgotten by your newer generation..if there is no words/books to carry them on they cannot influence the world of the living...think the bigger question is what does religion influences in the our world?
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For the same reason why people walk around with a shirt and shoes that have a check emblem...walking around with their pants down showing people their boxers...put breast and butt implants in their bodies..etc..etc...the list is never-ending the point is people are followers and seek to belong to a certain group..religion is just another group for people to follow... no followers=no religion..just like your own family generation year after year a member that lived is gone and forgotten by your newer generation..if there is no words/books to carry them on they cannot influence the world of the living...think the bigger question is what does religion influences in the our world?
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And.... who said Christianity are religion?.

Christianity forllow Jesus teaching who point the way to truth which is the Holy Qumran via the ancient Coptic dating more than 10,000 years...

... Holy Qumran Scriptures are the Essene and so are Christianity.

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Re: Why do people believe the bible is real, that Jesus existed and all that
Bible does contain some true HISTORICAL facts. The truth is it's actually an account of a clash of civilizations, where the enemy civilization is described as evil and its leader, or to use a historical title - Kagan (translates into Lucifer),a real, historical figure, is called Satan/Lucifer.

The other civilization, enemies of the middle-eastern/mediterranean/egyptian-pharaonic civilization are people of the north - Babylonians/Canaanites/Giants/Nephilim/Serpent Tribe, or as other traditions call them - Aryas, Bharas, Barbarians, Jotuns, Hyperboreans, Atlanteans.

Myths are real history, only processed through the language of symbols and archetypes.

Sheol/land of the dead is a real historical land on the map, mount Bel is a real mountain and surprise, surprise, the Bible promised that Babylonians would be cut off their roots. So, right now the other civilization is buried deep under heaps of lies. When Jotuns/Giants walk together again/unite it's the end of the world (the world of middle-eastern/mediterranean post-Roman, post-pharaonic slave-master order).

As to Jesus - it's basically an allegory of the sun, though there is a chance some historical figure was an inspiration for the whole story, especially that apparently Jews didn't know what Jesus said on the cross, seems he was really calling his barbarian ancestor/god. Yleli, leli means "oh god" and Lama means "dragon of storm". As to Sabah Tani, don't know what it is, but it could have been originally SavoTami - Za voDami - which is "beyond rivers/waters". In other words, a call of a dying man to his/his ancestors' homeland.
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Because you reborn again atheist dumbfuck will never understand. I will quote one for you that is not in the Bible for this man is greater than the your whole country ever in history:

"Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Isaac Newton

"The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, and absolutely perfect." - Isaac Newton

"The supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect; but a being, however perfect, without dominion, cannot be said to be Lord God; for we say, my God, your God, the God of Israel, the God of Gods, and Lord of Lords; but we do not say, my Eternal, your Eternal, the Eternal of Israel, the Eternal of Gods; we do not say, my Infinite, or my Perfect: These are titles which have no respect to servants. The word God usually signifies Lord; but every lord is not a God. It is the dominion of a spiritual being which constitutes a God; a true, supreme or imaginary dominion makes a true, supreme or imaginary God. And from his true dominion it follows, that the true God is a Living, Intelligent and Powerful Being; and from his other perfections, that he is Supreme or most Perfect. He is Eternal and Infinite, Omnipotent and Omniscient; that is, his duration reaches from Eternity to Eternity; his presence from Infinity to Infinity; he governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done. He is not Eternity or Infinity, but Eternal and Infinite; he is not Duration or Space, but he endures and is present. He endures for ever, and is every where present; and by existing always and every where, he constitutes Duration and Space. - Isaac Newton


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That's quite a lot of hostility from somebody who is supposedly so enlightened compared to me, a mere atheist fool.





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