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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72532148 United States 07/09/2016 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Navy Seal on TV last night said he wasn't that good of a shot. From that vantage point he should have been able to take out 4 times that many. A trained shooter like a seal would have hit over 100. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 TV? I thought you never believe what's said on TV (mainstream media)? I guess it all depends on what bullshit story the man in the TV box is selling today. |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy tells them he has the building wired. If the Chief sent in SWAT and got them killed trying to capture him alive he would have been hung. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Raye User ID: 68855665 United States 07/09/2016 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all of you people who are supporting cops using a bomb, I have a question. Quoting: Raye If your comrades were taken down, wouldn't you want the one ultimately responsible? Like when investigators use CI's to get the bigger fish bringing in the dope, wouldn't you first, want to make sure this was the right guy, and two, find out who put him up to killing cops? Perhaps find out the next city this is going to happen in? Find out what other types of sabotage is planned, like following cops to their homes after work and killing the cops families??? Damn, glp, come on. You have 10 comrades down and an experienced heavily armed shooter who is not giving up. OK. You be the first to go in and get his ass Rambo How did ONE GUY manage to shoot all those cops? It's funny how initial reports said "4 in a triangulated pattern" to one. Right?! I was watching it live. They had already been showing a pic of one guy walking with a gun, which is LEGAL, as being a suspect. For hours, they showed this man. Then his brother and another guy found a TV crew and said that's my brother, he's at home. And he had turned in his weapon to cops already, those 3 can identify the cop the gun went to. Suddenly, after hours of saying multiple snipers on top of buildings, it goes to a lone gunman. I call BULLSHIT. And they showed video of other people on the ground handcuffed. Not that I believe all media but I'm putting it out there in case others don't know. I am female, as was the first kitten, Raye, I helped bring into this world and had the treasure of giving her love for 7 1/2 short years. My handle here is in her honor. |
Navarro User ID: 71650084 United States 07/09/2016 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you'll find that the government can already do and justify "whatever the hell they want." I perceive humans as animals, and I have no quarrels with "putting down" animals which have attacked humans, even if the offending animal is a human themselves. I however am far more pragmatic than misanthropic, much less "patriotic" or anything of the sort. I'm neither satisfied nor dissatisfied that they've killed him. Instead, I merely recognize that he apparently attacked police, and they responded in kind. One who kills another is certainly "fair game." He chose to become a belligerent, presumably. During the height of the Iraq and Afghan wars, it interested me how American soldiers would be angry with their opponents in response to them killing their fellow American soldiers. Seems to me that if you invade another country, you should probably expect the combatants of that country to attempt to kill you. they now have a precedent to use exploding robots and dropping bombs by drone on American citizens. Quoting: KonspiracyKitty Precedence is irrelevant. One doesn't require precedence to gain precedence, and as such precedence is simply unnecessary. As remarked earlier, the government may do whatever it wishes. It's also a great way to make sure you destroy any evidence when you blow up your target. Quoting: KonspiracyKitty I don't believe that a bomb is necessary for the government to destroy or obscure evidence. Instead, the bomb attracts attention. Police agencies swore up and down they'd only use their Bearcat MRAPs to serve high-risk warrants, but now they pull them out daily for traffic stops and simple search warrants. Quoting: KonspiracyKitty When fighting a war, superiority is always preferred, and always sought. An inevitability. The alternative is less firepower and defense leading to enforcement employment slumps, leading to less manpower and effectiveness, concluding with instability and potential nullification of the current controllers. Yes, the bomb bots are only the next step, and far from the last. The police of today is in many ways more powerful than the military of decades past. The police of tomorrow will be more powerful than the military of today. Last Edited by Navarro on 07/09/2016 12:49 PM |
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 69593891 United States 07/09/2016 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your Fifth Amendment Rights and your Second Amendment right are fairly null and void at this point. Knock out gas could have been loaded onto that robot just as easily, still guaranteeing his trial and justice to be served. What is the Second Amendment intended for again? We all seem to have this idea that it was intended to protect us from a tyrannical government, the same government that is being given a pass by it's citizens to kill with BOMBS ON AMERICAN SOIL. They might as well come and take up everyone's firearms right now, today as your arms will not stand up to drone bombs PERIOD. I am not believing what I am seeing here. "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
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Joe Camel User ID: 72461590 United States 07/09/2016 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the fuck did that happen? Where is the media outcry? How about you guys? Do you thnk this is ok? They want to take our guns, and now the police can use bombs against us? What the fuck! Quoting: The Wizzard of gotcha moments OP has a point. In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". . Last Edited by Joe Camel on 07/09/2016 12:49 PM - Even if you don't take an interest in Politics, eventually Politics is going to take an interest in you. _ |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your Fifth Amendment Rights and your Second Amendment right are fairly null and void at this point. Knock out gas Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones could have been loaded onto that robot just as easily, still guaranteeing his trial and justice to be served. What is the Second Amendment intended for again? We all seem to have this idea that it was intended to protect us from a tyrannical government, the same government that is being given a pass by it's citizens to kill with BOMBS ON AMERICAN SOIL. They might as well come and take up everyone's firearms right now, today as your arms will not stand up to drone bombs PERIOD. I am not believing what I am seeing here. Knockout gas? You seriously don't believe he didn't bring a gas mask? Go silent after the gas and wait to detonate a bomb when SWAT entered the building? Get real. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy tells them he has the building wired. If the Chief sent in SWAT and got them killed trying to capture him alive he would have been hung. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 How did one guy manage to shoot ten cops? He was high up and picked them off as they ran to the fire to give aid to the fallen and to protect the citizens. It was pretty easy from his vantage point There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
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KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 69593891 United States 07/09/2016 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So your Fifth Amendment Rights and your Second Amendment right are fairly null and void at this point. Knock out gas Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones could have been loaded onto that robot just as easily, still guaranteeing his trial and justice to be served. What is the Second Amendment intended for again? We all seem to have this idea that it was intended to protect us from a tyrannical government, the same government that is being given a pass by it's citizens to kill with BOMBS ON AMERICAN SOIL. They might as well come and take up everyone's firearms right now, today as your arms will not stand up to drone bombs PERIOD. I am not believing what I am seeing here. Knockout gas? You seriously don't believe he didn't bring a gas mask? Go silent after the gas and wait to detonate a bomb when SWAT entered the building? Get real. I hope they come and take your shit first btw. "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
SAHM User ID: 72147405 United States 07/09/2016 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy tells them he has the building wired. If the Chief sent in SWAT and got them killed trying to capture him alive he would have been hung. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 How did one guy manage to shoot ten cops? He was high up and picked them off as they ran to the fire to give aid to the fallen and to protect the citizens. It was pretty easy from his vantage point He was was on the ground shooting at least one point blank. He wasn't alone. |
Navarro User ID: 71650084 United States 07/09/2016 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never Quoting: Joe Camel heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". Yet, had the police simply killed him with a bullet we wouldn't even be having the discussion. However, they didn't kill him with a bullet, they killed him with a bomb, which is exotic, and so we are indeed having this discussion. In any case, be it death by bullet or death by bomb, it would have either way been, death. The method is unique, but the result is not. |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never Quoting: Joe Camel heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". Yet, had the police simply killed him with a bullet we wouldn't even be having the discussion. However, they didn't kill him with a bullet, they killed him with a bomb, which is exotic, and so we are indeed having this discussion. In any case, be it death by bullet or death by bomb, it would have either way been, death. The method is unique, but the result is not. I agree 100% He became an enemy combatant with the first shot. The police showed mercy in trying to negotiate with him for 3 hours and choose the "safest" way to stop him. Police are here to Protect and Serve, not to commit suicide. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Navarro User ID: 71650084 United States 07/09/2016 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knockout gas? You seriously don't believe he didn't bring a gas mask? Go silent after the gas and wait to detonate a bomb when SWAT entered the building? Get real. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 There's no guarantee that he possessed a gas mask. I'm fairly certain that possession of a gas mask isn't a prerequisite for killing police. I assure you that more people have killed police without a gas mask than have killed with a gas mask. Also, not everyone is susceptible to police chemical agents. Some are effectively immune to agents as pepper spray or tear gas. |
SAHM User ID: 72147405 United States 07/09/2016 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never Quoting: Joe Camel heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". Yet, had the police simply killed him with a bullet we wouldn't even be having the discussion. However, they didn't kill him with a bullet, they killed him with a bomb, which is exotic, and so we are indeed having this discussion. In any case, be it death by bullet or death by bomb, it would have either way been, death. The method is unique, but the result is not. I agree 100% He became an enemy combatant with the first shot. The police showed mercy in trying to negotiate with him for 3 hours and choose the "safest" way to stop him. Police are here to Protect and Serve, not to commit suicide. Police don't give their lives, they are stolen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70999478 United States 07/09/2016 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never Quoting: Joe Camel heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". Yet, had the police simply killed him with a bullet we wouldn't even be having the discussion. However, they didn't kill him with a bullet, they killed him with a bomb, which is exotic, and so we are indeed having this discussion. In any case, be it death by bullet or death by bomb, it would have either way been, death. The method is unique, but the result is not. I agree 100% He became an enemy combatant with the first shot. The police showed mercy in trying to negotiate with him for 3 hours and choose the "safest" way to stop him. Police are here to Protect and Serve, not to commit suicide. And you are still the fuckin dimwhitt motherfucker you were yesterday, so? |
goldielucks User ID: 69295382 United States 07/09/2016 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hell, forget starving him out, why the hell couldn't the robot deploy incapacitating gas??? You're telling me we have NOTHING in our policing arsenal that will knock a suspect unconscious without killing him? I call bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23790168 Don't bring a knife to a gunfight! What the bad guys and terrorists really need is "love and compassion " How do you know they didn't just blow up a corpse they pulled out of the morgue? LOL anything and everything is possible. Look at the neck wagging its shithead above you we're dealing with. |
Navarro User ID: 71650084 United States 07/09/2016 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time one puts on a uniform which identifies them as the enemy of another, they choose to risk their lives. They willfully assume the role of another man's target. Their lives are then indeed "given" rather than "stolen." It's not logical to agree to play the game then think the situation unfair simply because you lost. |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter did far more to hurt the Black cause than anyone in decades. Lawful black people are ashamed of what he did. He is a complete loser except to the lowest scum. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45145552 United States 07/09/2016 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, yes it is okay. Right tool for the job. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71507838 Here's a newsflash for you OP, kill a cop and you get what you deserve. I don't hate cops, I respect what they do. If they needed anti tank weapons to shut down a bad guy, I say go for it. We don't like cops or anyone who weilds the kind of power and authority we the people grant them. That is until the shit hits the fan and we need them to save our asses. The good news is that nothing will change. Our law enforcement agencies will continue to do gods work, by and large. As with any vocation, there will continue to be asshats who slip through the cracks. Unfortunately, though the percentage of bad cops is far lower than the percentage of bad teachers, firefighters, fishermen, insurance adjusters, bank tellers, check out clerks and so on, the laser focus on cops coupled with the finality of their mistakes, means that this age old bitching will continue unabated. We have the safest and best protected streets in the world. It comes with a cost and sometimes those costs are officer involved shootings that shouldn't have happened. On the flip side, limit their power, authority and discretion and what you have is ..Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Oakland etc. All of which are demographically majority minority cities. Cities that aren't safe. Cities where the "inmates run the asylum". No thanks. I'll keep my law enforcement JUST THE WAY IT IS! How many fuckin times do you dumb bastards need to be corrected about the difference between Law enforcement and Color of Law enforcement....you're one stupid son of a bitch. Cops are Americas enemy, all wearing military rank and working for a foreign corporation....are you one of them dumbass? Nod your stupid head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72532148 United States 07/09/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy tells them he has the building wired. If the Chief sent in SWAT and got them killed trying to capture him alive he would have been hung. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 How did one guy manage to shoot ten cops? He was high up and picked them off as they ran to the fire to give aid to the fallen and to protect the citizens. It was pretty easy from his vantage point What kind of rifle was he using? |
Bible-Tard User ID: 72468368 United States 07/09/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the fuck did that happen? Where is the media outcry? How about you guys? Do you thnk this is ok? They want to take our guns, and now the police can use bombs against us? What the fuck! Quoting: The Wizzard of gotcha moments Not only did the police use a bomb, this is the first documented use of a ground robot to kill a perp, that I am aware of. Has anyone said "Terminator" yet? |
SAHM User ID: 72147405 United States 07/09/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every time one puts on a uniform which identifies them as the enemy of another, they choose to risk their lives. They willfully assume the role of another man's target. Their lives are then indeed "given" rather than "stolen." It's not logical to agree to play the game then think the situation unfair simply because you lost. Enemy of who? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71608117 United States 07/09/2016 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all of police standoffs I've ever heard of, I've never Quoting: Joe Camel heard of a BOMB being used to incapacitate a suspect. Tear gas, smoke granades, even percussion granades -- but not a "BOMB". Yet, had the police simply killed him with a bullet we wouldn't even be having the discussion. However, they didn't kill him with a bullet, they killed him with a bomb, which is exotic, and so we are indeed having this discussion. In any case, be it death by bullet or death by bomb, it would have either way been, death. The method is unique, but the result is not. Well, the result is we got people earnestly defending the use of a bomb by the police. Was it a "bad guy" the blew up. Well, duh. Bombing a bus of girl scouts wouldn't be bringing the cheers. Blow up a bad guy and everybody talks about how they were right. Next time, the bad guy is on your team, maybe one of them "crazy" patriot types. Just as many people will be defending that, too. And, hey, bombing people is not part of the landscape. The Boston lockdown was a beta. I thought that the instant I saw the first clip. Now, lockdowns are accepted as routine in any shooting and protesters of them are deemed assholes who are out of step with reality. |
PACNWGUY-01 User ID: 72084552 United States 07/09/2016 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cops: Hey shooter. We have given you 3 hours to surrender. Times up. Surrender now or we will have to kill you. Shooter: Come get me Coppers. BOOM End of story There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Navarro User ID: 71650084 United States 07/09/2016 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter did far more to hurt the Black cause than anyone in decades. Lawful black people are ashamed of what he did. He is a complete loser except to the lowest scum. Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 I disagree. It seems to me that Obama has perpetrated the greatest harm to the black cause in this millennia. I speculate that racial tension was at an all-time low in America prior to Obama's presidential candidacy. Obama then managed to set-back race relations at least a decade in my estimation. Obama is the greatest divider America has seen since Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis. The actions of the man you speak of are simply the result of Obama's effects. |