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The Comedian :( User ID: 72599084 United States 07/17/2016 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about that but the GOP should replace trump if they want to have a chance to win in November. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68176509 Which Liberal open-borders RINO would you like to replace him, Romney, Jeb or Paul Ryan? Kasich is the only one who polled well against Clinton. Kasich is a closeted homosexual. That's your choice for POTUS? Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62440829 United States 07/17/2016 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump fucked-up in picking Pence for one, simple reason: he betrayed himself, and the entire tone and approach of his campaign. Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man Now, in fairness, there are plenty of positives when it comes to Pence and we can talk about that, but it's really not what is important (and there are plenty of negatives, too). What was important was the tone Trump set with the pick. Trump needed to pick an outsider or military person, someone like Gen. Flynn. Or, he needed a bold pick, like black Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke Jr. or Allen West. There are also strong women he could have picked, liked retired four star general Ann Dunwoody. Any of these more out-of-the-box, bold picks would have served the message of Trump's campaign, served to win over women and/or minorities, and created positive buzz. Instead, Trump chose to "unite the party" and cow to the Republican Estbalishment with a "safe" pick. Just look at how enthusiastically Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush responded to the Pence pick. That should tell you something. As I said, there are some immediate positives of Pence in terms of mollifying and supplicating butthurt GOPes, but in the long-game, it's a mistake. Now, here's what I believe "went down": I personally believe Trump's "heart" was not in picking Pence. I say that for many reasons, but mainly because Trump said today that "he was my first pick!", which is a typical Trumpian giveaway that he's trying to cover something up that's actually true by doubling-down or over-stating something. Pence was not his first pick. He and Pence aren't close and don't know each other well. Manafort and others pressured Trump into picking him. Pence's team leaked the pick, too, and Trump found out about it and reportedly was not happy. That's a sign there's trouble. You don't leak something like that and fuck-up a golden media moment in Trump World. That's a bad way to start things off. If I were Trump, I would be livid. Now, here's what I think will happen: Pence will get Trump through the GOP Convention, but at some point in September or sooner, Trump will drop him. The reasons will be some kind of insubordination or conflict, maybe a scandal, real or not -- I don't know. Trump will have to have a reason. Then he'll pick the right person. It will be controversial, but Trump will survive it. Trump will re-grain any negativity by picking a very bold person to replace Pence, one that everyone will like and get behind (Pence, on the other hand, may not be eligible to run for releection in Indiana, so he may be royally screwed.) You're a overly verbose moran. |
Cigarette_Smoking_Man (OP) User ID: 49184419 United States 07/17/2016 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will you please stop posting threads about Mike pence and the vp? You should be banned for spamming the site. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71563164 Looks like my thread got a pin. "Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15311252 United States 07/17/2016 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course he is, that is why he is called, "human",and we all are that is what Jesus is for: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Cigarette_Smoking_Man (OP) User ID: 49184419 United States 07/17/2016 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is a MORALLY FLAWED candidate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72600369 Nothing as bad as Bill Clinton, but bad enough that MANY of our Christian friends said they'd sit it out rather than vote for him. We disagreed VEHEMENTLY, but couldn't break through to them that the consequences would be: President Hillary! Picking a born again, Bible believing evangelical as VP is making them sit up and take notice. If Pence turns off the atheist or non-religious Trump supporters, that's too bad, but Trump WILL NOT WIN without the evangelical CHRISTIAN vote. PERIOD. Call them what you will: the VALUES VOTERS the MORAL MAJORITY the CHRISTIAN RIGHT WHATEVER. This election will be close. The same group that FLOODED the polls TWICE for Ronald Reagan will put Trump in the White House if they are ALL made aware of Mike Pence and what he stands for. I respect your input. "Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70578808 United States 07/17/2016 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about that but the GOP should replace trump if they want to have a chance to win in November. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68176509 Which Liberal open-borders RINO would you like to replace him, Romney, Jeb or Paul Ryan? Kasich is the only one who polled well against Clinton. You really are a special kind of stupid, do you have any common sense at all. kasich was last. No one like him, he is even creepier than cruz. I really wish there was some vitamin you could take to give you some sense. |
Cigarette_Smoking_Man (OP) User ID: 49184419 United States 07/17/2016 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forcing myself to watch George Snuffleupagus. Quoting: The Comedian :( They just played an anti-Pence ad. "Pence was willing to shut down the government in order to stop funding Planned Parenthood". Then they played a supporting clip. This is supposed to make me NOT like Pence? Fuck it, that's all I need to know. Trump/Pence 2016 I agree that's a big plus. "Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71639749 United States 07/17/2016 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really beating a dead horse. Anyone who has been following Trump closely for the past 6 - 10 mos should not find his VP shocking in the least. Trump has been saying all along that he was going to pick an experienced politician. This has been reported in MSM for months now: "He ruled out a business-oriented pick on the basis that he doesn't "need that type of ability." An experienced politician, on the other hand, has already been vetted by the media and public, so it's less likely that people would "find out that they were doing terrible, terrible things with their life," Trump said." Weeks before Trump even picked Pence, he was mentioned on the short list. Days before Trump made his announcement, it was leaked on Breitbart that he would be picking Pence. None of this is shocking, unless you've been living under a rock for the past few months. Pence is going to be Trump's errand boy in DC, going to the meetings, getting Trumps' policies and agendas pushed through. Some rogue individual with absolutely no political experience would not be successful at doing this like Pence will be. If there's one thing we know about Trump, and why we support him, he's got killer instinct, astute, a good read of character and always chooses the right person for the right job. |
AR 15-SPECIALIST Admit it! We’re Fucked User ID: 70699807 United States 07/17/2016 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Pence for mid-west vote" OR "Newt for the RNC $$$" You cannot win an election without both. The money will come in. The RNC hates Hillary more than Trump regardless of what you hear. The main donors will cough up the money rather then sit by and watch ANOTHER 4 years of Obama. The Mid-West votes will win Trump the election. TRUMPS FAULT |
Cigarette_Smoking_Man (OP) User ID: 49184419 United States 07/17/2016 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really beating a dead horse. Anyone who has been following Trump closely for the past 6 - 10 mos should not find his VP shocking in the least. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71639749 Trump has been saying all along that he was going to pick an experienced politician. This has been reported in MSM for months now: "He ruled out a business-oriented pick on the basis that he doesn't "need that type of ability." An experienced politician, on the other hand, has already been vetted by the media and public, so it's less likely that people would "find out that they were doing terrible, terrible things with their life," Trump said." Weeks before Trump even picked Pence, he was mentioned on the short list. Days before Trump made his announcement, it was leaked on Breitbart that he would be picking Pence. None of this is shocking, unless you've been living under a rock for the past few months. Pence is going to be Trump's errand boy in DC, going to the meetings, getting Trumps' policies and agendas pushed through. Some rogue individual with absolutely no political experience would not be successful at doing this like Pence will be. If there's one thing we know about Trump, and why we support him, he's got killer instinct, astute, a good read of character and always chooses the right person for the right job. Excellent post. "Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm." |
Cigarette_Smoking_Man (OP) User ID: 49184419 United States 07/17/2016 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you fucks it would be: Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST "Pence for mid-west vote" OR "Newt for the RNC $$$" You cannot win an election without both. The money will come in. The RNC hates Hillary more than Trump regardless of what you hear. The main donors will cough up the money rather then sit by and watch ANOTHER 4 years of Obama. The Mid-West votes will win Trump the election. Another good post. Pence could pull Iowa, Wisconsin and Ohio into contention. The more I look at this, I see how it makes sense. "Only a man suffering from a severe case of dignity atrophy would even entertain the thought of financing, housing, and raising some other man's orgasm." |
The Comedian :( User ID: 72599084 United States 07/17/2016 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | might be too late, trump lost so many votes with the pence pick i dont know if he could even recover at this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6994514 No he hasn't. "I was a Trump supporter, but now that he's chosen Pence as a mostly symbolic figurehead, I am voting for Hillary", said nobody ever. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
The Comedian :( User ID: 72599084 United States 07/17/2016 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you fucks it would be: Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST "Pence for mid-west vote" OR "Newt for the RNC $$$" You cannot win an election without both. The money will come in. The RNC hates Hillary more than Trump regardless of what you hear. The main donors will cough up the money rather then sit by and watch ANOTHER 4 years of Obama. The Mid-West votes will win Trump the election. Wow, and I thought you were just another pretty face. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51448571 United States 07/17/2016 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nailed it. Backside Uncle Intel said that Trump's first pick is Flynn, but he was backed into a corner for convention. Quoting: PirateMonkey I expect it to go down as you described. Yes some kind of "conflict in philosophy" will happen such as Pence having good ideas like wanting to take Donald on an open car ride to Dealey Plaza. I think POTUS DON will eventually pick someone much younger that isnt a a free fucking trader. I think Donald will also inform the people that America BECAME great when: It didnt have a PRIVATE FOR ROTHSCHILD PROFIT central bank It had high TARIFFS to have internal development It didnt have open borders to FREELOADERS Pence is against 1 and 2 and is a pussy on 3. He needs to go after Donald is POTUS. Donald will probably have him take an "important" ambassadors position in Japan or some such shit to make it look good. Or just say: You're fired, BIGLY. Of course its all timing. Perhaps DON POTUS the first, gets his agenda through with the nation getting back on its feet and then whacks the mole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15311252 United States 07/17/2016 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i guess as long as we are making up pretend scenarios and stories, i think trump, being a HUGE fan of the pauls due to this thread: Quoting: 1-2-Follow Thread: Hannity tonight: all trump signs, but ron/rand paul picture on wall behind trump will kick pence off the ticket, then decide it's time for true change, and will hand the republican nomination off to ron paul for prez and rand for veep and jesse ventura will be sec of state. i hope he picks that pretty, little Grandmama, who sticks up for women, cuts the balls off pigs, and who repeatedly and soundly scolds Trump everytime he screws up |
TKC User ID: 1133838 Puerto Rico 07/17/2016 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't look indecisive, even if Pence was not his first pick. But I don't see how he can get away with picking someone without Political experience, that is where Hillary is going to throw him under the bus, he had to pick an experienced politician. Not a military person or what not, experience IMO is all that Hillary has, she has bad decision making etc but she does have political experience whether good or not. I think Pence will be fine, he has to take orders from Trump not the other way around. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71325964 Netherlands 07/17/2016 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | might be too late, trump lost so many votes with the pence pick i dont know if he could even recover at this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6994514 No he hasn't. "I was a Trump supporter, but now that he's chosen Pence as a mostly symbolic figurehead, I am voting for Hillary", said nobody ever. :fuckoff: Exactly. He is pulling the same shit he did in the primaries only now inverted. In the primaries he went all out with the rhetoric and the tough guy stuff in order to appeal to the more extreme voters. He knew most republicans would never switch to vote for Sanders or Clinton. Now he is doing the same inverted. He is pandering to the moderate miltoast bibleloving conservatives because he knows the more extreme republicans are NEVER going to vote for Clinton. He needs their support, he is not going to win with just loyal Trump fans, and he is not going to win by just having the moderates vote for him, he needs their support. And besides, the VP is just a doormat. Somebody like Flynn would have far more merit as SOS or some other actual functional cabinet position. You want a VP that won't hurt you. Choosing someone like Flynn might mean he has to be too much on the forefront during the elections, the more exposure the more chance of something stupid happening that might hurt Trump. You want some dud, somebody with low profile who people don't really care about. |
AR 15-SPECIALIST Admit it! We’re Fucked User ID: 70699807 United States 07/17/2016 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you fucks it would be: Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST "Pence for mid-west vote" OR "Newt for the RNC $$$" You cannot win an election without both. The money will come in. The RNC hates Hillary more than Trump regardless of what you hear. The main donors will cough up the money rather then sit by and watch ANOTHER 4 years of Obama. The Mid-West votes will win Trump the election. Wow, and I thought you were just another pretty face. Hung like a horse too:) TRUMPS FAULT |
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The Comedian :( User ID: 72599084 United States 07/17/2016 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you fucks it would be: Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST "Pence for mid-west vote" OR "Newt for the RNC $$$" You cannot win an election without both. The money will come in. The RNC hates Hillary more than Trump regardless of what you hear. The main donors will cough up the money rather then sit by and watch ANOTHER 4 years of Obama. The Mid-West votes will win Trump the election. Wow, and I thought you were just another pretty face. Hung like a horse too:) Probably dance like Fred Astaire too, bitch. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72600369 United States 07/17/2016 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pence voted against the bank bailouts. That's huge in my book and maybe Trump's too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72446017 This too. :jay: The left-wing maggots are going ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC over the choice of MIKE PENCE. They are APOPLECTIC! THAT ALONE is all I need to know about Mike Pence, if I didn't know a single "other" thing about him. He's a good Christian man, which is why he stands out in America. THAT should make us ALL, sick and ashamed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51448571 United States 07/17/2016 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pence voted against the bank bailouts. That's huge in my book and maybe Trump's too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72446017 This too. :jay: The left-wing maggots are going ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC over the choice of MIKE PENCE. They are APOPLECTIC! THAT ALONE is all I need to know about Mike Pence, if I didn't know a single "other" thing about him. He's a good Christian man, which is why he stands out in America. THAT should make us ALL, sick and ashamed. Damn this could swing the entire trannie population to Hitlery! d00m! |
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monkey4truth User ID: 71552424 United States 07/17/2016 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is a MORALLY FLAWED candidate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72600369 Nothing as bad as Bill Clinton, but bad enough that MANY of our Christian friends said they'd sit it out rather than vote for him. We disagreed VEHEMENTLY, but couldn't break through to them that the consequences would be: President Hillary! Picking a born again, Bible believing evangelical as VP is making them sit up and take notice. If Pence turns off the atheist or non-religious Trump supporters, that's too bad, but Trump WILL NOT WIN without the evangelical CHRISTIAN vote. PERIOD. Call them what you will: the VALUES VOTERS the MORAL MAJORITY the CHRISTIAN RIGHT WHATEVER. This election will be close. The same group that FLOODED the polls TWICE for Ronald Reagan will put Trump in the White House if they are ALL made aware of Mike Pence and what he stands for. Christians need to stop hoping for a messiah candidate. It isn't going to happen and they set themselves up to be pander ed to and taken advantage of by every candidate ever. This is not a theocracy and we aren't voting for pastor. And I'm a huge Bible thumper. God doesn't just use "believers" to do what He does. I don't believe that Donald Trump is going to save America. ONLY Jesus Christ can save America, and we turned our "national back" on Him, LONG AGO. If you do not have the discernment though, to recognize the difference between the two political tickets, stop thumping on your Bible, and start reading it instead. With all due respect..If you are waiting on God/Jesus..you are going to be disappointed...God helps those who help themselves.....it is up to us to make choices and changes for betterring the human experience and existence.. This is why we have free will..life is what WE make of it. Stand up and speak for truth..even when it's not popular.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15311252 United States 07/17/2016 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | might be too late, trump lost so many votes with the pence pick i dont know if he could even recover at this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6994514 No he hasn't. "I was a Trump supporter, but now that he's chosen Pence as a mostly symbolic figurehead, I am voting for Hillary", said nobody ever. :fuckoff: that soup you eat is very, unhealthy garbsge and sick, and youare the Adage: "The proof is in the pudding", of it. You would eat anything"laugh" Hellary: ". . . Eat me, eat me . . ." Google that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70815343 United States 07/17/2016 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about that but the GOP should replace trump if they want to have a chance to win in November. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68176509 Which Liberal open-borders RINO would you like to replace him, Romney, Jeb or Paul Ryan? Kasich is the only one who polled well against Clinton. That's because kasich IS clinton |