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Video of Saddam's hanging - Worst cameraman EVER

 
Anonymous Coward
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I WISH SOMEONE COULD TRANSLATE IS TO WTH THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WHILE THAT WAS GOING ON.......AND WHAT WAS THAT CAMERMAN DRINKING,JEEEEEEZ!!
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Looks like the real thing. Taken with a cell phone maybe.
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I wish I hadnt clicked on the link now!
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Atma and many others here may possibly be false-light. I am attempting to locate the true-light people
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I wish I hadnt clicked on the link now!
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Makes me feel kind of sad for humanity.
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Atma and many others here may possibly be false-light.
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And pray tell, what is a false light?
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Atma and many others here may possibly be false-light.


And pray tell, what is a false light?
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One who is into the new age and stuff, and pretends to be good, but is still and pretty dark person who probably doesnt want real reform.
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Atma and many others here may possibly be false-light.


And pray tell, what is a false light?


One who is into the new age and stuff, and pretends to be good, but is still and pretty dark person who probably doesnt want real reform.
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Why did you bring this up in this thread?

Well, I should have put a warning or something in the title. Sorry.
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One who is into the new age and stuff, and pretends to be good, but is still and pretty dark person who probably doesnt want real reform.
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I am into my spiritual development. The only real reform you will ever find is within yourself. If you want to spend your time with your attention on this physical plane, that is your choice. You shouldn't concern yourself with my choices.
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One who is into the new age and stuff, and pretends to be good, but is still and pretty dark person who probably doesnt want real reform.



I am into my spiritual development. The only real reform you will ever find is within yourself. If you want to spend your time with your attention on this physical plane, that is your choice. You shouldn't concern yourself with my choices.
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ahh yes, the false-light ones who are against ethics and reform and use "create your own reality, which the documentry secret" as their distraction. they are against higher physical, neurological and spiritual realities.
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I thought we had evolved as a race since the middle age but guess I am wrong since executions like hangings still occur.
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they are also against higher society & sociability reality. i forgot to mention that along with physical, neurological and spiritual. they like to say "watch the secret video" and hate all good things
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I predict this thread will be pinned.
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The false-light one like atma also like to look up videos of death and executions and spread them around as a spectacle
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ahh yes, the false-light ones who are against ethics and reform and use "create your own reality, which the documentry secret" as their distraction. they are against higher physical, neurological and spiritual realities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 175419



You make false assumptions. I haven't said I was against anything, yet you make false claims to put yourself above others. Perhaps your reality is to feel superior due to some inferiority within yourself? Something you feel you lack in life you need to cover up? Your light shines forth like a dim bulb.
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IMHO

Obviously a cell phone video...

The rope is supposed to be taught before the floor is dropped out...otherwise the hangman runs the risk of the rope breaking or the head popping off due to excess body weight...the goal is to strangle the man whilst breaking the neck...

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT WITH THIS VIDEO...
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320x240 windows media ... looks like hidden cam or cell phone shit ... afterall, you DO NOT really see him "hanging" ... as the trapdoor opens, the video glitches and goes black, then, the face of saddam is shown (with rope) and looks like a dead rat ... now, open for speculations
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something not right with this whole thing.....confusing,,,,,but then again, I am not too bright.........

me too
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SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT WITH THIS VIDEO...
 Quoting: REAR VIEW (NLI) 150179


- transfering a ~10mb .3gp video from cell phone via bluetooth to pc
- video editing (kicking some frames), darken some parts
- re-encode the shit with a crappy windows media bitstream
- upload via 56k modem somewhere to the net
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The rope is suppose to be loose so the drop breaks the neck. If it's tight it won't snap the brain stem and the body will twitch wildly.
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Turrets with a camera.
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"The rope is supposed to be taught before the floor is dropped out...otherwise the hangman runs the risk of the rope breaking or the head popping off due to excess body weight...the goal is to strangle the man whilst breaking the neck..."

This is not the official video since that was taken from the top of the platform. This is a real video however. The rope is not supposed to be tight as this would strangle. In a proper hanging the knot is placed slightly to the side and back of the head with the slack calculated for proper drop based on the weight of the person being executed. Upon dropping the knot snaps straight and either (preferably both) assists in breaking the neck and/or knocking the person out. The fall and the knot both aid in breaking the neck leading to almost instant death. Only botched hangings strangle.
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TAUGHT NOT TIGHT!

The rope is hanging down to his belt buckle...way too much play in the rope...but enough of course to let him hang yet stand on a platform below the hanging platform!

...enough to let him fall thru and yet stand on another platform below the trapdoor...
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Atma is right. Spiritual progress is the only true path to a better world.
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why does the video stop one quarter of the way down when i try to watch it ? Very odd.
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Of course the rope goes down to his waist. If the man wighed 154 lbs he has to drop 6 feet 6 inches to apply enough force to break his neck. (Official Table of Drops, look it up) That much rope attached to a fixed point on the ceiling will cause it to look like that. It's not like the rope goes through a pulley, its connected to the ceiling.
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TAUGHT NOT TIGHT!

The rope is hanging down to his belt buckle...way too much play in the rope...but enough of course to let him hang yet stand on a platform below the hanging platform!

...enough to let him fall thru and yet stand on another platform below the trapdoor...
 Quoting: REAR VIEW (NLI) 150179



Rear view, I haven't watched the vid, but that's EXACTLY what I thought when I saw the MSM footage of just before the execution this morning!

That much rope should have torn his head off!

Something STINKS about this!
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I guess I saw too many Western Movies and TV...

I may have been wrong about the taught/tight stuff and offer my forum wide appology...

Here are the facts on hanging:
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Standard drop hanging

- Where the standard drop proves inadequate to break the neck, the prisoner seems often to suffer a more cruel death where little or no drop is used. The force generated by a drop of 5 or 6 feet is very considerable and does great damage to the skin, muscles and ligaments of the neck but does not necessarily induce asphyxia any sooner. This description of a hanging at San Quentin prison in California is from Clinton Duffy who was the warden there from 1942 to 1954 and relates to the execution of Major Raymond Lisemba on May 9th, 1942. "The man hit bottom and I observed that he was fighting by pulling on the straps, wheezing, whistling, trying to get air, that blood was oozing through the black cap. I observed also that he urinated, defecated, and droppings fell on the floor, and the stench was terrible". "I also saw witnesses pass out and have to be carried from the witness room. Some of them threw up."

It took ten minutes for the condemned man to die. When he was taken down and the cap removed, "big hunks of flesh were torn off" the side of his face where the noose had been, "his eyes were popped," and his tongue was "swollen and hanging from his mouth. His face had turned purple." Fortunately not all standard drop hangings were so gruesome and many prisoners did not show any signs of physical suffering.

The long drop

- It takes between a half and three quarters of a second for a person to reach the end of the drop after the trap opens. The force produced by the prisoner's body weight multiplied by the length of fall and the force of gravity, coupled with the position of the noose is designed to cause a virtually instant fracture-dislocation of the neck which leads to death by comatose asphyxia. It is thought that brain death will occur in around 6 minutes and whole body death normally within 10-15 minutes. It is very variable, however, with official reports of from 3-25 minutes for total death to have occurred.

Death is still ultimately caused by asphyxia but the condemned person is deeply unconscious at the time due to dislocation of the cervical vertebrae and the crushing and/or separation of the spinal cord. The face may still become engorged and then cyanosed and the tongue may protrude. Some slight movements of the limbs and body may occasionally occur but are almost certainly due to spinal reflexes. The prisoner may also still urinate and/or defecate as their muscles relax in death. Here is an official government photograph of the long drop hanging of an Iranian drug trafficker in Kuwait in 1998.

Link to the hanging website:
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I leave this thread now as I am convinced that whoever was hung was/is/never will be SADDAM
Anonymous Coward
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Whoops! looks like I was wrong! AGAIN! lol

''The "Long drop" method as used in Britain.
In 1872, William Marwood introduced the "long drop" to Britain for the execution of Frederick Horry at Lincoln prison, as a scientifically worked out way of giving the prisoner a humane death. It is thought to have been invented by doctors in Ireland. Longer drops were in use elsewhere by the 1850's, but the short drop had been universal in Britain prior to this time and continued to be used until 1877 when Thomas Askern hanged John Henry Johnson at Armley prison Leeds on the 3rd of April.
The long drop method was designed to break the prisoner’s neck by allowing them to fall a pre-determined distance and then be brought up with a sharp jerk by the rope. At the end of the drop, the body is still accelerating under the force of gravity but the head is constrained by the noose which delivers a massive blow to the back and one side of the neck, which combined with the downward momentum of the body, breaks the neck and ruptures the spinal cord causing instant deep unconsciousness and rapid death. The later use of the brass eyelet in the noose tended to break the neck with more certainty. Due to its position under the angle of the left jaw, the head is snapped backward with such force that the posterior aspect of the foramen magnum cuts the spinal cord superior to the top vertebra and just a little inferior to the brain stem.
The accurately measured and worked out drop removed most of the prisoner's physical suffering and made the whole process far less traumatic for the officials who now had to witness it in the confines of the execution cell instead of in the open air.
The drop given in the 19th century was usually between 4 and 10 feet depending on the weight and strength of the prisoner. The weight used to calculate the correct drop is that of the prisoner's body. Up to 1892, the length of drop was calculated to provide a final "striking" force of approximately 1,260 lbs. force which combined with the positioning of the eyelet caused fracture and dislocation of the neck, usually at the 2nd and 3rd or 4th and 5th cervical vertebrae. This is the classic "hangman's fracture". The length of the drop was worked out by the formula 1,260 foot pounds divided by the body weight of the prisoner in pounds = drop in feet. Between 1892 and 1913, a shorter length of drop was used, probably to avoid the decapitation and near decapitations that had occurred with old table. After 1913, other factors were also taken into account and the drop was calculated to give a final "striking" force of around 1,000 lbs. The Home Office issued a rule restricting all drops to between 5 and 8 feet as this had been found to be an adequate range. The American Military manual also specifies a similar range for prisoners of between 120 and 200 lbs. body weight. In Britain, the drop was worked out and set to the nearest quarter of an inch (see below) to ensure the desired outcome.''

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Not shure. could be a clone? wtf

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