so...back to two people to choose from again. each of which don't represent American citizens.

Actually, there is only one choice now

Because voting left again should not even be an option lol

Your optimism is so skewed that you can't even give Trump a chance.

Ac 7488...I would like nothing more than this. However, remember when Obama promised the most transparent government thus far...how's that working out. Senators cannot read bills until that have been passed. What he meant was the most transparent government when it comes to citizens..this is why they have writers. Double talk. You think they are saying one thing, but they are really saying something else.

My optimism is skewed by the things he is saying and some of the things he's not saying in between his rhetoric. Trump will turn out to be the white people's obama. I hope I'm wrong. Real change is what we crave..but we have to be honest with ourselves first.

Trump is going to win, in a landslide. At this point, our country's existence is at stake. Anyone who voted for Hillary is a traitor in my book, anyone who doesn't vote of Trump is a traitor. People are watching and taking names. On both sides. Watch for a purge after this election.....

That's what he is saying now. He wants to be elected. Once elected this will all change. Anyway I can't vote.

You don't care that he kicked an old lady out of her house...he offered her money.--I wish for your sake you could see past your statement and follow the ripples to the damage something like that creates.

If he doesn't want to become president to "Make America Great Again" then what is his end game?

I think this will explain a lot of why there is no choice

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He, like everybody else, just want the honor and power of being POTUS.

People have been wanting him to run for president for so long. He never wanted to but now he sees the current situation we are in has to get better or it will fail completely. It doesn't make sense for him to go about this campaign like the country is a business he wants to save and then throw it all away just because he has power and more fame now.

Just look at Obama. The first black president. "Yes we can!" When Obama was first elected I thought he would be better than Bush. But I was so wrong.

Trump is first and foremost a businessman. Legal loopholes are his bread and butter.

PS Though I must add: Hilary Clinton could be worse!

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Exactly! a businessman. How do businessmen become successful? They make their company successful. His new company (USA) would have to become successful for him to gain anything from becoming president. Does not make sense for him to be in this for any other reason.

There are things even Trump cannot change which he will find out when he takes office. In the end he will just want to hang on to the presidency anyway he can. I've always believed all politicians are crooked, anywhere.

I would sure as hell rather want a businessman to try to fix this place than a corrupt career politician in power for their own dirty agenda.

I constantly hear people saying that they only have two choices. That's completely untrue. And when I was talking to people throughout the nomination process; it's almost as if people don't even realize that they can vote in primaries. Have you not been paying attention? There were a ton of candidates to choose from. At some point, the field has to be narrowed down.

Also, I constantly hear people say, "Well I'll vote for so and so because that person is the lesser of two evils". That statement makes me sick. If you truly feel that way- that both of your "only" choices are evil; then, you shouldn't vote at all. And if you feel that way and vote for one of them, you are part of the problem. And you are also guilty for whatever atrocities they commit.

I understand how you feel about the lesser of two evils because I sort of feel the same way. The difference is I'm not going to vote at all because I like to have a clear conscience. I do not have some "civic duty" to vote for criminals and/or psychopaths. That's a complete load of bullshit. A non-vote is essentially a vote of protest against a corrupt system. I know it seems unrealistic but the principle is important. IF NOBODY VOTED; THEY WOULDN'T BE ELECTED.

Both Trump and Hilary are not my ideal candidates. Luckily, I can't vote.

People say there are only two choices because it is pushed into a corner where typically the pepsi and the coke for the shadow gov are left standing. Usually backed by large donations and access to a large media platform. The small time American with 5-10-20 million doesn't stand a chance. And as people do as the TV says...he/she will be forced to bow out early. Dirty politics equals a dirty society..

I think the main problem is that people refuse to actually do research on the candidates and form their own opinion. They saw that on Imgur someone posted a picture saying Trump is racist so that's what they believe. They see people on CNN saying why they think trump is a horrible person for not wanting thousands of refugees into our country so they think he is just a horrible person. They see Trump protesters screaming and yelling and throwing things so they some how think Trump supporters are bad people.

I think people don't know how to reject the options and stir enough faith for ordinary folk to run for office..it's almost like we don't want to see mom or dad up there on stage. With ordinary clothing and an ordinary car. It has to be a polished, smooth talking teleprompter readers with $5,000 dollar suits on. I think trump is set to break many hearts like Obama did should he be allowed to steal it...hillary will be equally as bad should she be allowed to steal it..but regarless who steals it. Know your election was stolen again. You do know the things that need to get passed 2017-2020 have already been drawn up and ready to be pushed once the show is over.

You're an idiot. No new laws need to be passed.

Gary Johnson says hello. 2% away now from being in debates this november. Give real freedom a chance.
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Gary says hi to you too. See above. Give freedom a chance.

And you, just like everyone else in the internet and in forums, just want to sound like you know what you are talking about. You do not. You are surmising based upon past people and events. Dangerous ground.

If a person bases their own possibilities on their own past failures, they will never succeed.

If all people judge others based upon still others failures, success will never be achieved for any of us.

I understand pessimism, believe me. It is hard to see the bright side, when you have witnessed so many very dark nights. But closing ones self off to the possibility of light, ensures continued darkness.

Have hope, have heart, and be open. Light is coming.