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Wolfie
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Hello Dragonforce:
could you please email me the mP3 at:
wolfie.martin@sympatico.ca


thank you!
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I highly recommend this software - Neuro-Programmer check it out here [link to www.transparentcorp.com]
It comes with heaps of sessions but you can also tailor make your own. Here's a bit of blurb from the website:
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OK - can anyone help me? I downloaded the file and transferred it to my Sony MP3 player (NW-5505 model) but it says, "cannot play". However, it DOES play thru my computer. thanks in advance for any suggestions. wolfie
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First I must correct myself. I said “I think you are right that natural sounds like drums can be a safer, although not as effective, way of reaching the desired state of deep trance-“. I meant to say *not as efficient* instead of “not as effective”. There is a world of difference.

AC 171507: “Knowledge takes time, growth takes time, there is no short cuts, quick fixes. Damage to ones spirit, and mind, body could be the end result.”

That is very true. There are countless examples of people that attempted different techniques of “spiritual development” under uninformed or lacking guidance, ending up in a severely damaged state. These kinds of injuries can be very difficult to make undone so great care must be taken to progress slowly and steadily. Think of the analogy of mountain climbing, you must secure yourself all the time on your way up to the top or disaster may result. Moving securely is “slowing you down” but this is no contest to “prove performance” or “show results” to anyone. One of the problems we have here is how to define and measure “progress”. For me, it is about experiencing greater harmony and feeling more and more in tune with my part of the physical, social and spiritual universe called “my life”.



Adopting deep respiratory methods (I guess you know exactly what I'm talking here) in a FULLY harmonic natural setting, together with "energy" movements will get you deeply tunned without need of any external stimulus - like mantras, drums, drugs, physical/energy chakra stimulation, etc., etc. Those external stimulus always transport (a few or a lot of) interferences that may link you to improper energies, places and predispositions.

Beware of ANY kind of hard stimulus that can take control your own natural vibrations. Even a friend with good intentions can do you a lot of harm when used do produce those. As you may well know, there is more to liking than our mind knows, and there are very few ways of becoming aware of this. There are also forces that can temporarily take control of weak, unprepared souls who are just trying to help.

May God be in your path.
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You focus our attention on many important things, Apprentice. As you say, we must always be careful when using external stimuli, and some are more invasive and potentially more dangerous than others. I guess many people shy away from the use of “magic mushrooms”, mescaline cactus and other drugs, they can do a lot of harm when used in the wrong way. Just like the modern psychoactive drugs we might add, if used in the wrong way they may deepen the illness they was supposed to treat or introduce new illnesses.

As AC 171505 said, many of us are used to having quick fixes and what could be easier than just taking a magic pill ? What many forget is all the ancient knowledge embedded in the way they are used in their original social and ritual setting that minimized the risk of damage and maximized the benefit. I think it is a good rule of thumb to use as “light” and natural stimulation as possible, the breathing techniques you mention could be well worth looking into as they seem very unlikely to interfere negatively with the delicate balances in our different energy systems.

Another thing you put the finger on is the setting, which has special importance in shaman traditions. Certain geographical locations in nature having beneficial energies are sought out, “power places” which you can visit physically and spend time exploring, and to return to if only in your thoughts as your personal portal to the spirit world when journeying. The setting for a session must be a place in which the traveller feels secure, and there are rituals to “cleanse” the site from bad energies and evoke the protection of good spirits for the journey.

There seems to be potentially important clues to the safe use of "binaural sounds" from many sources, and also alternative ways to achieve deep trance that should be considered. We are all different.


- Godspeed -

/L
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I’d like to return to the thread issue, auditory stimulation as a means to achieve an altered state of consciousness, deep trance or whatever we call it. There is a risk of confusion here, this is since “binaural” also has been used to denote a special recording technology for 3D sound. Here you have an artificial head where the microphones are positioned in its artificial ears, thereby capturing the sound in a way that is very similar to how humans capture sound. By listening to the binaurally recorded track in headphones you get the illusion of being in the recording studio, as if your head was put in the place of the artificial head. There is nothing inherently unnatural about that, highly recommended for everyone to try some binaurally recorded music. Amazing experience, good old trustworthy technology.

However, what we talk about *in this thread* is something completely different. Here we subject our auditory system to a kind of input that cannot occur naturally, not to my knowledge anyway. Hence the brain is trying to make sense of something that is truly incomprehensible: a difference in frequency between the two ears. Normally there can only be phase and amplitude differences which are what the brain use to pinpoint the location of sound sources around us.

Following this line of reasoning we have every reason to be careful when experimenting with these kinds of “binaurally synthezised sound effects”. They have no reference points in the real world, and their interpretations by our individual brains are therefore likely to vary greatly and seem to produce all kinds of unpredictable effects. We also have the sound compression algorithms which were not designed with these kinds of synthetic signals in mind, it cannot be excluded that the compression/decompression algorithms produce unexpected artefacts by themselves.

As I said earlier, I got the impression that I was enduring an earthquake when listening to the first binaural track in this thread, with my sofa shaking violently. I got no serious problems with that since I knew there were no actual earthquake going on and no physical danger. Maybe the weird input caused a confusion of tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing a phantom ELF sensory input to the brain… who knows? Anyway, what worried me was the sharp pain from my heart which I assumed must have been the result of a disruption in my heartbeat control, altering the timing of the chamber contractions somehow. Needless to say, the experiment could not continue under such circumstances.

Be careful and vigilant, better safe than sorry.

/L
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you know the same thing happend to me the first time it tried holosync delta waves.

I was spooked and had to pull off the headophones. being paranoid i thought it was going to slow my heart beat down until it stopped. But i have since experienced the delta waves quite a few times and it just takes quite a bit of time to get used to being concious at this low level of brain activity.
Basically if scientists measure your brain activity during deep dreamless sleep, your basically in a coma or unconcious, scientists dont know what goes on during this.
The binaural beats can let you be concious whilst your brain operates at delta brainwaves. Now im no expert so i don't know what this could lead to.

If you felt heart pain then i would suggest you dont try it again. But i suspect that it wouldent to you any harm if you did. Ive not heard any reports of negtive effects like that in what ive read so far. But they do warn epileptics not to use it....

My guess is that its safer than drugs.
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i'll hopfully get around to sending some of these emails later.
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you know the same thing happend to me the first time it tried holosync delta waves.

I was spooked and had to pull off the headophones. being paranoid i thought it was going to slow my heart beat down until it stopped. But i have since experienced the delta waves quite a few times and it just takes quite a bit of time to get used to being concious at this low level of brain activity.
...

If you felt heart pain then i would suggest you dont try it again. But i suspect that it wouldent to you any harm if you did. Ive not heard any reports of negtive effects like that in what ive read so far. But they do warn epileptics not to use it....

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Can you explain more about the characteristics of holosync delta waves? No doubt we have the phenomenon of "getting used to things", and just because something feels bad when we start out doesn't neccessarily mean it is actually bad for us in the longer run. Our bodies tend to complain whenever we are doing things out of the ordinary. I know it is difficult to compare but the initial muscle ache when beginning a training program comes to mind.

Then again, it is obviously not possible for me to continue something that makes me experience serious heart troubles. I have no way of determining if these inputs were real or imagined, I only listen to what my body tells me. I'm curious but not like the cat that got killed for it ... :)

A healthy respect for what we are dealing with seems to be in order.

/L
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you know the same thing happend to me the first time it tried holosync delta waves.

I was spooked and had to pull off the headophones. being paranoid i thought it was going to slow my heart beat down until it stopped. But i have since experienced the delta waves quite a few times and it just takes quite a bit of time to get used to being concious at this low level of brain activity.
...

If you felt heart pain then i would suggest you dont try it again. But i suspect that it wouldent to you any harm if you did. Ive not heard any reports of negtive effects like that in what ive read so far. But they do warn epileptics not to use it....



Can you explain more about the characteristics of holosync delta waves? No doubt we have the phenomenon of "getting used to things", and just because something feels bad when we start out doesn't neccessarily mean it is actually bad for us in the longer run. Our bodies tend to complain whenever we are doing things out of the ordinary. I know it is difficult to compare but the initial muscle ache when beginning a training program comes to mind.

Then again, it is obviously not possible for me to continue something that makes me experience serious heart troubles. I have no way of determining if these inputs were real or imagined, I only listen to what my body tells me. I'm curious but not like the cat that got killed for it ... :)

A healthy respect for what we are dealing with seems to be in order.

/L
 Quoting: Leopold



All i know is that is made by hemisync, the file was called holosync delta waves, and it sounded like a recording of rain on falling on to a roof outside. I put it on loop and had that strange experience with the symbol and the knowledge.
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I’d like to return to the thread issue, auditory stimulation as a means to achieve an altered state of consciousness, deep trance or whatever we call it. There is a risk of confusion here, this is since “binaural” also has been used to denote a special recording technology for 3D sound. Here you have an artificial head where the microphones are positioned in its artificial ears, thereby capturing the sound in a way that is very similar to how humans capture sound. By listening to the binaurally recorded track in headphones you get the illusion of being in the recording studio, as if your head was put in the place of the artificial head. There is nothing inherently unnatural about that, highly recommended for everyone to try some binaurally recorded music. Amazing experience, good old trustworthy technology.

However, what we talk about *in this thread* is something completely different. Here we subject our auditory system to a kind of input that cannot occur naturally, not to my knowledge anyway. Hence the brain is trying to make sense of something that is truly incomprehensible: a difference in frequency between the two ears. Normally there can only be phase and amplitude differences which are what the brain use to pinpoint the location of sound sources around us.

Following this line of reasoning we have every reason to be careful when experimenting with these kinds of “binaurally synthezised sound effects”. They have no reference points in the real world, and their interpretations by our individual brains are therefore likely to vary greatly and seem to produce all kinds of unpredictable effects. We also have the sound compression algorithms which were not designed with these kinds of synthetic signals in mind, it cannot be excluded that the compression/decompression algorithms produce unexpected artefacts by themselves.

As I said earlier, I got the impression that I was enduring an earthquake when listening to the first binaural track in this thread, with my sofa shaking violently. I got no serious problems with that since I knew there were no actual earthquake going on and no physical danger. Maybe the weird input caused a confusion of tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing a phantom ELF sensory input to the brain… who knows? Anyway, what worried me was the sharp pain from my heart which I assumed must have been the result of a disruption in my heartbeat control, altering the timing of the chamber contractions somehow. Needless to say, the experiment could not continue under such circumstances.

Be careful and vigilant, better safe than sorry.

/L
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Greetings Leopold,

I entirely agree with you on this. Well explained also. BTW, a word of caution: do NOT try to experience these binaural delta waves if your heart felt bad, as these TOTALLY ARTIFICIAL waves have the clear potential to HURT a human's perception system (not just the auditory) if used for a long time. Perceptions deal with our hormonic production - including those of the pituitary gland...

We need to talk over other issues if you have the interest. Please email me at Lc_ufo2003@yahoo.com

May God bless you.
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All i know is that is made by hemisync, the file was called holosync delta waves, and it sounded like a recording of rain on falling on to a roof outside. I put it on loop and had that strange experience with the symbol and the knowledge.
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Thanks for trying to explain. Also thanks to TheApprentice, I belive you both know quite a deal about these matters and I would like to continue and deepen the discussion.

However, maybe you should not make too much out of the negative experiences I told you about. These experiences may be personal more than general, I'm beginning to get that feeling for a reason I just recalled. I seems I'm a so called "synaesthetic", which means some parts of my sensory processing systems are working in a way that is not exactly normal. I keep forgetting about that. My particular anomaly seems to be a bidirectionality between tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing effects that I have understood are clearly "unusual" rather late in life (it took me more than fourty years to realize that not all people perceive things the way I do...). I'm still highly doubtful that I'm "abnormal" here, the way I see it I cannot see how you can even function in the "normal" way... anyway.

In practical life it means that I process information from sound fields using both auditory and tactile inputs. I still think all people actually do this without knowing or thinking about it. Simply speaking, I use my entire body as "ears", and I think you do this as well.

I belive it is the bi-directional crosscoupling that is the strange part. One of the more peculiar side-effects from the bi-directional thing is that I tend to feel music and sounds in my entire body (and through contact areas to the floor, furniture etc) from listening to headphones only. It is as real as reality itself, as if I was experiencing live music performances with high-powered speaker systems, sonic wavefronts physically hitting my body and putting everything around me in motion. Cheap headphones like Koss Portapro is fully capable of producing this physical effect for me, however there is some kind of a limit just about here. IPod buds and similar stuff produce no such effect... weird but that's a fact.

Another interesting effect is that it is very easy for me to detect if anyone is lying for instance. I know it instantly in every fiber of my body, just as if I was trying to express that lie myself. I think of it as an enacting capability more than anything, an emphatic quality if you want.

Related to this thread and what I told you about my experiences from listening to the binaural track, I think it becomes much clearer why my sofa was shaking. When subjected to a frequency delta of 5-10 Hz, the only real referent that correspond to the tactile/auditory input is the rumble of an earthquake, given this bidirectional cross-coupling. I think I was wrong in the earlier post, there actually exist potential natural inputs in this ultra-low frequency range. Just like I feel the bass beat from music in my body through my headphones, I felt a projection of what must have produced the 5-10 Hz auditory/tactile input. Not so strange then.

I give you this long-winded explanation just because I don't want to discourage anyone from exploring the effects of sound, and exploring ways to reach altered states of consciousness. Just be careful and mindful. Ultra-low frequencies [or the impression thereof?] are known to produce very strange effects on people, ranging from nausea to disorientation. Especially at high amplitudes.

/L
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Binaural beats are great unless you mess around too much too fast. Speaking from experience. I can never resist a chance to experiment.
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OK - can anyone help me? I downloaded the file and transferred it to my Sony MP3 player (NW-5505 model) but it says, "cannot play". However, it DOES play thru my computer. thanks in advance for any suggestions. wolfie
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the file is 22khz instead of the normal 44khz. i had to use nero just to burn it to a cdr. then i imported it back to itunes.
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Your heart probably hurt because the vagus nerve goes from the ears to the heart. Any artificial aural stimulation of sufficient power could likely cause a disruption of energy to the heart via this nerve.

Also props out to who I think may be a SomaEnergetics practitioner who listed the Solfeggio frequencies at the beginning of the thread.( 396,417,528,639,741, and 852HZ) Good stuff is to be found there!
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All. When experimenting keep in mind that potent ultra-low frequency "cannon" generators where already patented by G.E. decades ago. They could demolish tick walls ...
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All i know is that is made by hemisync, the file was called holosync delta waves, and it sounded like a recording of rain on falling on to a roof outside. I put it on loop and had that strange experience with the symbol and the knowledge.


Thanks for trying to explain. Also thanks to TheApprentice, I belive you both know quite a deal about these matters and I would like to continue and deepen the discussion.

However, maybe you should not make too much out of the negative experiences I told you about. These experiences may be personal more than general, I'm beginning to get that feeling for a reason I just recalled. I seems I'm a so called "synaesthetic", which means some parts of my sensory processing systems are working in a way that is not exactly normal. I keep forgetting about that. My particular anomaly seems to be a bidirectionality between tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing effects that I have understood are clearly "unusual" rather late in life (it took me more than fourty years to realize that not all people perceive things the way I do...). I'm still highly doubtful that I'm "abnormal" here, the way I see it I cannot see how you can even function in the "normal" way... anyway.

In practical life it means that I process information from sound fields using both auditory and tactile inputs. I still think all people actually do this without knowing or thinking about it. Simply speaking, I use my entire body as "ears", and I think you do this as well.

I belive it is the bi-directional crosscoupling that is the strange part. One of the more peculiar side-effects from the bi-directional thing is that I tend to feel music and sounds in my entire body (and through contact areas to the floor, furniture etc) from listening to headphones only. It is as real as reality itself, as if I was experiencing live music performances with high-powered speaker systems, sonic wavefronts physically hitting my body and putting everything around me in motion. Cheap headphones like Koss Portapro is fully capable of producing this physical effect for me, however there is some kind of a limit just about here. IPod buds and similar stuff produce no such effect... weird but that's a fact.

Another interesting effect is that it is very easy for me to detect if anyone is lying for instance. I know it instantly in every fiber of my body, just as if I was trying to express that lie myself. I think of it as an enacting capability more than anything, an emphatic quality if you want.

Related to this thread and what I told you about my experiences from listening to the binaural track, I think it becomes much clearer why my sofa was shaking. When subjected to a frequency delta of 5-10 Hz, the only real referent that correspond to the tactile/auditory input is the rumble of an earthquake, given this bidirectional cross-coupling. I think I was wrong in the earlier post, there actually exist potential natural inputs in this ultra-low frequency range. Just like I feel the bass beat from music in my body through my headphones, I felt a projection of what must have produced the 5-10 Hz auditory/tactile input. Not so strange then.

I give you this long-winded explanation just because I don't want to discourage anyone from exploring the effects of sound, and exploring ways to reach altered states of consciousness. Just be careful and mindful. Ultra-low frequencies [or the impression thereof?] are known to produce very strange effects on people, ranging from nausea to disorientation. Especially at high amplitudes.

/L
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We need to talk over other issues. Please email me at Lc_ufo2003@yahoo.com
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Your heart probably hurt because the vagus nerve goes from the ears to the heart. Any artificial aural stimulation of sufficient power could likely cause a disruption of energy to the heart via this nerve.

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Thanks for the information. Your explanation seems very plausible, I just did some reading up on the vagus nerve. It is easy to understand that ultra-low frequencies introduced in the cranial region can interfere negatively with the heartbeat control system for instance. Also other critical systems are interconnected via this nerve.

What is perhaps more difficult to understand is the possibility that even the mere impression of ultra-low frequencies may have the same effect, at least on some people. In the previous post I explained that I have reason to believe that I fall into this category, from my reactions to "ordinary sound".

This only underlines the words of caution already expressed in this thread. Personally, I will never again experiment with frequency deltas below 20 Hz if I try these techniques again. I think I'll stick to my good old drumming :)

/L
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Very interesting, i have my visual sense mixed in with my auditory sense, as do quite a few people, which makes me see the sound in my head, even the binaural beats i see as little colored lines with pulses amongst the vast wall of dots that is the pink noise background, it actually looks in my head like the tv static on blank channels, and the other carrier tones i will see as various colored lines going though the static.

But to have tactile input mixed with auditory. is pretty damn cool. I think anyone with this bidirectional ability benefits rather than loosing out. I heard einstien's brain was wired in a similar way too.
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I tried this...and WOW. I felt like I was 'travelling', I were in my bed but at the same time in several other places.

I could smell, feel and see in both 'worlds'. It was amazing. I was in a flower 'buddha-like' with several other people, especially young ones, from all colors and races. I was able to 'know' things that just manifest them self to me. Some 'truths' about me, like a regression of some sort. I just let it go. Absolutely incredible.

I was truly able to free my mind from my body and 'connect' it to everything. It leaved me very very tired, but it was worth it.

First time in my life I feel like that, Was it Astral Travel?
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if anybody really wants the file on MP3 then i can email it to you, its 10 mb. and lasts approx 35mins.
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If anyone can send it now, I am straight awaiting...
chabakat@yahoo.fr
Thanks.
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Still waiting... hiding
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Well... while waiting... let's listento some relaxing music.
A little bit of Sharon Drury?
[link to www.northcountrystudios.com]
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the download links work not.

Can someone please upload the ORIGINAL mp3FILE or send me an email with it to waggabiggadoo@hotmail.com

thanks!
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Now i'm listenign to the beats for the second day.
My mood is now very stable and i'm never nervous.
It has overall calming effect.Its amazing what just an mp3 can change.
Another thing:I'm experiencing increase in creativity.
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are you ready for this?


this thread has 9 pages, but........



BINAURAL BEATS DO NOT WORK !!!!

i have tried different ones many many times


there is absolutely no change at all in my state of consciousness, no matter how many times or how long i try!


no difference at all !! the only difference is i get tired of hearing the sound and it gets annoying !!!!, thats it !


Binaural beats is a fraud gimmick
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P.S.

the OP isnt even fucking smart enough to upload the file to a file host and give the link so he keeps emailing individual people

wtf
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OP is this file downloadable somewhere? If not then just email it to me. Or anyone just email it to me. For fuck sakes man just upload the god damn thing to a public archive like www.yourfilehost.com
The dreams in which i'm dying are the best i've ever had - Mad World
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[link to www.mooload.com]


can't you guys read? its on page 2

and if you say these types of sounds don't work for you then why the fuck are you asking for a download link?
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Hey dumb fucks, go read page 5 and 6 for download links.
Quit posting your email address unless you enjoy SPAM!

[link to www.sharebigfile.com]

[link to www.sharebigfile.com]

[link to www.sharebigfile.com]

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wtf
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Re: Binaural Beats WORKS!! SCARY SHIT!
are you ready for this?


this thread has 9 pages, but........



BINAURAL BEATS DO NOT WORK !!!!

i have tried different ones many many times


there is absolutely no change at all in my state of consciousness, no matter how many times or how long i try!


no difference at all !! the only difference is i get tired of hearing the sound and it gets annoying !!!!, thats it !


Binaural beats is a fraud gimmick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 178837


You have to concentrate on the rhytm,use headphones with true stereo(no 3d mixing) .The effect will appear in 30-35 minutes.
Different people feel it differently.Some mp3s are ineffective for some,but very effective for others.I think their brains work on slightly different frequency ranges.

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