Binaural Beats WORKS!! SCARY SHIT!

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Adopting deep respiratory methods (I guess you know exactly what I'm talking here) in a FULLY harmonic natural setting, together with "energy" movements will get you deeply tunned without need of any external stimulus - like mantras, drums, drugs, physical/energy chakra stimulation, etc., etc. Those external stimulus always transport (a few or a lot of) interferences that may link you to improper energies, places and predispositions.

Beware of ANY kind of hard stimulus that can take control your own natural vibrations. Even a friend with good intentions can do you a lot of harm when used do produce those. As you may well know, there is more to liking than our mind knows, and there are very few ways of becoming aware of this. There are also forces that can temporarily take control of weak, unprepared souls who are just trying to help.

May God be in your path.

you know the same thing happend to me the first time it tried holosync delta waves.

I was spooked and had to pull off the headophones. being paranoid i thought it was going to slow my heart beat down until it stopped. But i have since experienced the delta waves quite a few times and it just takes quite a bit of time to get used to being concious at this low level of brain activity.
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If you felt heart pain then i would suggest you dont try it again. But i suspect that it wouldent to you any harm if you did. Ive not heard any reports of negtive effects like that in what ive read so far. But they do warn epileptics not to use it....

you know the same thing happend to me the first time it tried holosync delta waves.

I was spooked and had to pull off the headophones. being paranoid i thought it was going to slow my heart beat down until it stopped. But i have since experienced the delta waves quite a few times and it just takes quite a bit of time to get used to being concious at this low level of brain activity.
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If you felt heart pain then i would suggest you dont try it again. But i suspect that it wouldent to you any harm if you did. Ive not heard any reports of negtive effects like that in what ive read so far. But they do warn epileptics not to use it....



Can you explain more about the characteristics of holosync delta waves? No doubt we have the phenomenon of "getting used to things", and just because something feels bad when we start out doesn't neccessarily mean it is actually bad for us in the longer run. Our bodies tend to complain whenever we are doing things out of the ordinary. I know it is difficult to compare but the initial muscle ache when beginning a training program comes to mind.

Then again, it is obviously not possible for me to continue something that makes me experience serious heart troubles. I have no way of determining if these inputs were real or imagined, I only listen to what my body tells me. I'm curious but not like the cat that got killed for it ... :)

A healthy respect for what we are dealing with seems to be in order.

/L

I’d like to return to the thread issue, auditory stimulation as a means to achieve an altered state of consciousness, deep trance or whatever we call it. There is a risk of confusion here, this is since “binaural” also has been used to denote a special recording technology for 3D sound. Here you have an artificial head where the microphones are positioned in its artificial ears, thereby capturing the sound in a way that is very similar to how humans capture sound. By listening to the binaurally recorded track in headphones you get the illusion of being in the recording studio, as if your head was put in the place of the artificial head. There is nothing inherently unnatural about that, highly recommended for everyone to try some binaurally recorded music. Amazing experience, good old trustworthy technology.

However, what we talk about *in this thread* is something completely different. Here we subject our auditory system to a kind of input that cannot occur naturally, not to my knowledge anyway. Hence the brain is trying to make sense of something that is truly incomprehensible: a difference in frequency between the two ears. Normally there can only be phase and amplitude differences which are what the brain use to pinpoint the location of sound sources around us.

Following this line of reasoning we have every reason to be careful when experimenting with these kinds of “binaurally synthezised sound effects”. They have no reference points in the real world, and their interpretations by our individual brains are therefore likely to vary greatly and seem to produce all kinds of unpredictable effects. We also have the sound compression algorithms which were not designed with these kinds of synthetic signals in mind, it cannot be excluded that the compression/decompression algorithms produce unexpected artefacts by themselves.

As I said earlier, I got the impression that I was enduring an earthquake when listening to the first binaural track in this thread, with my sofa shaking violently. I got no serious problems with that since I knew there were no actual earthquake going on and no physical danger. Maybe the weird input caused a confusion of tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing a phantom ELF sensory input to the brain… who knows? Anyway, what worried me was the sharp pain from my heart which I assumed must have been the result of a disruption in my heartbeat control, altering the timing of the chamber contractions somehow. Needless to say, the experiment could not continue under such circumstances.

Be careful and vigilant, better safe than sorry.

/L

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All i know is that is made by hemisync, the file was called holosync delta waves, and it sounded like a recording of rain on falling on to a roof outside. I put it on loop and had that strange experience with the symbol and the knowledge.

OK - can anyone help me? I downloaded the file and transferred it to my Sony MP3 player (NW-5505 model) but it says, "cannot play". However, it DOES play thru my computer. thanks in advance for any suggestions. wolfie

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All i know is that is made by hemisync, the file was called holosync delta waves, and it sounded like a recording of rain on falling on to a roof outside. I put it on loop and had that strange experience with the symbol and the knowledge.


Thanks for trying to explain. Also thanks to TheApprentice, I belive you both know quite a deal about these matters and I would like to continue and deepen the discussion.

However, maybe you should not make too much out of the negative experiences I told you about. These experiences may be personal more than general, I'm beginning to get that feeling for a reason I just recalled. I seems I'm a so called "synaesthetic", which means some parts of my sensory processing systems are working in a way that is not exactly normal. I keep forgetting about that. My particular anomaly seems to be a bidirectionality between tactile and auditory neural pathways, producing effects that I have understood are clearly "unusual" rather late in life (it took me more than fourty years to realize that not all people perceive things the way I do...). I'm still highly doubtful that I'm "abnormal" here, the way I see it I cannot see how you can even function in the "normal" way... anyway.

In practical life it means that I process information from sound fields using both auditory and tactile inputs. I still think all people actually do this without knowing or thinking about it. Simply speaking, I use my entire body as "ears", and I think you do this as well.

I belive it is the bi-directional crosscoupling that is the strange part. One of the more peculiar side-effects from the bi-directional thing is that I tend to feel music and sounds in my entire body (and through contact areas to the floor, furniture etc) from listening to headphones only. It is as real as reality itself, as if I was experiencing live music performances with high-powered speaker systems, sonic wavefronts physically hitting my body and putting everything around me in motion. Cheap headphones like Koss Portapro is fully capable of producing this physical effect for me, however there is some kind of a limit just about here. IPod buds and similar stuff produce no such effect... weird but that's a fact.

Another interesting effect is that it is very easy for me to detect if anyone is lying for instance. I know it instantly in every fiber of my body, just as if I was trying to express that lie myself. I think of it as an enacting capability more than anything, an emphatic quality if you want.

Related to this thread and what I told you about my experiences from listening to the binaural track, I think it becomes much clearer why my sofa was shaking. When subjected to a frequency delta of 5-10 Hz, the only real referent that correspond to the tactile/auditory input is the rumble of an earthquake, given this bidirectional cross-coupling. I think I was wrong in the earlier post, there actually exist potential natural inputs in this ultra-low frequency range. Just like I feel the bass beat from music in my body through my headphones, I felt a projection of what must have produced the 5-10 Hz auditory/tactile input. Not so strange then.

I give you this long-winded explanation just because I don't want to discourage anyone from exploring the effects of sound, and exploring ways to reach altered states of consciousness. Just be careful and mindful. Ultra-low frequencies [or the impression thereof?] are known to produce very strange effects on people, ranging from nausea to disorientation. Especially at high amplitudes.

/L

Your heart probably hurt because the vagus nerve goes from the ears to the heart. Any artificial aural stimulation of sufficient power could likely cause a disruption of energy to the heart via this nerve.

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if anybody really wants the file on MP3 then i can email it to you, its 10 mb. and lasts approx 35mins.

are you ready for this?


this thread has 9 pages, but........



BINAURAL BEATS DO NOT WORK !!!!

i have tried different ones many many times


there is absolutely no change at all in my state of consciousness, no matter how many times or how long i try!


no difference at all !! the only difference is i get tired of hearing the sound and it gets annoying !!!!, thats it !


Binaural beats is a fraud gimmick