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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72673874 United States 08/01/2016 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do the Catholic saints say about Islam??? The following is a brief list of quotes from Catholic saints about Islam and its founder, Muhammad. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it is illustrative of how Catholics — particularly those favored sons and daughters of the Church we now know to be in heaven — viewed the Muslim faith in prior generations: “There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist...From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.” -St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958. Pages 153-160.) “We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.” -Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death. “Any cult which denies the divinity of Christ, does not profess the existence of the Holy Trinity, refutes baptism, defames Christians, and derogates the priesthood, we consider to be damned.” -Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia (d. 852), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death. “On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.” -St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated from Fr. Damian Fehlner’s Aquinas on Reasons for the Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians (Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.) “As we have seen, Muhammed had neither supernatural miracles nor natural motives of reason to persuade those of his sect. As he lacked in everything, he took to bestial and barbaric means, which is the force of arms. Thus he introduced and promulgated his message with robberies, murders, and bloodshedding, destroying those who did not want to receive it, and with the same means his ministers conserve this today, until God placates his anger and destroys this pestilence from the earth. (Muhammad) can also be figured for the dragon in the same Apocalypse which says that the dragon swept up a third of the stars and hurled down a third to earth. Although this line is more appropriately understood concerning the Antichrist, Mohammed was his precursor – the prophet of Satan, father of the sons of haughtiness. Even if all the things contained in his law were fables in philosophy and errors in theology, even for those who do not possess the light of reason, the very manners (Islam) teaches are from a school of vicious bestialities. (Muhammad) did not prove his new sect with any motive, having neither supernatural miracles nor natural reasons, but solely the force of arms, violence, fictions, lies, and carnal license. It remains an impious, blasphemous, vicious cult, an innovention of the devil, and the direct way into the fires of hell. It does not even merit the name of being called a religion.” -St. Juan de Ribera (d.1611), Archbishop of Valencia, missionary to Spanish Muslims, and organizer of the Muslim expulsions of 1609 from Spain. Quoted in several locations from his 1599 Catechismo para la Instruccion de los Nuevos Convertidos de los Moros (my translation). Also of note is the prediction of Hilaire Belloc, the great 20th century Catholic historian and poet, who warned in 1929 that Islam would make a return to the world stage: "We shall almost certainly have to reckon with Islam in the near future. Perhaps, if we lose our Faith, it will rise. For after this subjugation of the Islamic culture by the nominally Christian had already been achieved, the political conquerors of that culture began to notice two disquieting features about it. The first was that its spiritual foundation proved immovable; the second that its area of occupation did not recede, but on the contrary slowly expanded. In my own youth the decaying power of Islam (for it was still decaying) in the Near East was a strong menace to the peace of Europe. Those old people of whom I speak had grandparents in whose times Islam was still able to menace the West. The Turks besieged Vienna and nearly took it, less than a century before the American Declaration of Independence. Islam was then our superior, especially in military art. There is no reason why its recent inferiority in mechanical construction, whether military or civilian, should continue indefinitely. Even a slight accession of material power would make the further control of Islam by an alien culture difficult. A little more and there will cease that which our time has taken for granted, the physical domination of Islam by the disintegrated Christendom we know." He's a Protestant, so can't be a Saint of the Catholic Church, but here's what the founder of Methodism, John Wesley, had to say about Islam. "Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it … have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind." [link to www.onepeterfive.com] Above quotes exempt from copyright law and are in the public domain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72703349 United Kingdom 08/01/2016 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Either Mo was a true prophet or he wasn't there is just no in-between. If he was then, Jesus was not divine, Christianity is redundant and needs to convert to Islam. If he wasn't - then what was he, a charlatan?, a psycopath, deluded? - an agent of the devil? - a Catholic psyop? - whatever he was, if the Pope choose not to believe in him as a true prophet then Islam is evil and must be eclared as a mortal enemy of the church and humanity ie WAR! Looks like this NWO Jesuit fucker has chosen the former! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72671640 Canada 08/01/2016 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now we're being lied to by the pope. this dude needs to go to confession and shove his communion chalice up his ass. Quoting: Phennommennonn Islam and Roman Catholicism, advocate the same thing: Torture people who belong to a different religion until they convert, and if they refuse to convert, kill them. If the Pope is critical of Islam, than he has to answer for the Roman Catholic's crimes, as the Roman Catholic's, murdered more Christians, than Islam and the pagan Emperors of old, combined. Christianity has gone through a reformation and no longer tortures and kills people in the name of Christ. This is not the middle ages anymore where witches were burned at the stake. You are using the same warped logic as the Pope. Equating crimes against humanity from hundreds of years ago to what is happening now with Islam and saying because such and such a thing done hundreds years ago by our ancestors we have no right to criticize what people are doing in the present I call bullshit on that! The Pope and you are being apologists for Islamic terrorists and excusing their behavior. Past crimes against humanity doesn't excuse present crimes nor future ones done by others. Two wrongs never make a right. There is no good excuse for beheading a priest in a church or slaughtering children at a McDonalds or running innocent people over with truck in Nice. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71989010 United States 08/01/2016 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pope says Islam is not terrorism Quoting: Phennommennonn Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday that Islam could not be equated with terrorism and warned Europe was pushing its young into the hands of extremists. "It's not true and it's not correct (to say) Islam is terrorism," he told journalists aboard the papal plane during the return journey from a trip to Poland. "I don't think it is right to equate Islam with violence". finiSHIT here Pope refuses to equate Islam with violence [link to hotair.com] orig [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] :BHC-wtf: its controlled depopulation, you cant possibly call this terrorism :P |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16706472 United States 08/01/2016 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what do the Catholic saints say about Islam??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72673874 The following is a brief list of quotes from Catholic saints about Islam and its founder, Muhammad. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it is illustrative of how Catholics — particularly those favored sons and daughters of the Church we now know to be in heaven — viewed the Muslim faith in prior generations: “There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist...From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.” -St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958. Pages 153-160.) “We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.” -Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death. “Any cult which denies the divinity of Christ, does not profess the existence of the Holy Trinity, refutes baptism, defames Christians, and derogates the priesthood, we consider to be damned.” -Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia (d. 852), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death. “On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.” -St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated from Fr. Damian Fehlner’s Aquinas on Reasons for the Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians (Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.) “As we have seen, Muhammed had neither supernatural miracles nor natural motives of reason to persuade those of his sect. As he lacked in everything, he took to bestial and barbaric means, which is the force of arms. Thus he introduced and promulgated his message with robberies, murders, and bloodshedding, destroying those who did not want to receive it, and with the same means his ministers conserve this today, until God placates his anger and destroys this pestilence from the earth. (Muhammad) can also be figured for the dragon in the same Apocalypse which says that the dragon swept up a third of the stars and hurled down a third to earth. Although this line is more appropriately understood concerning the Antichrist, Mohammed was his precursor – the prophet of Satan, father of the sons of haughtiness. Even if all the things contained in his law were fables in philosophy and errors in theology, even for those who do not possess the light of reason, the very manners (Islam) teaches are from a school of vicious bestialities. (Muhammad) did not prove his new sect with any motive, having neither supernatural miracles nor natural reasons, but solely the force of arms, violence, fictions, lies, and carnal license. It remains an impious, blasphemous, vicious cult, an innovention of the devil, and the direct way into the fires of hell. It does not even merit the name of being called a religion.” -St. Juan de Ribera (d.1611), Archbishop of Valencia, missionary to Spanish Muslims, and organizer of the Muslim expulsions of 1609 from Spain. Quoted in several locations from his 1599 Catechismo para la Instruccion de los Nuevos Convertidos de los Moros (my translation). Also of note is the prediction of Hilaire Belloc, the great 20th century Catholic historian and poet, who warned in 1929 that Islam would make a return to the world stage: "We shall almost certainly have to reckon with Islam in the near future. Perhaps, if we lose our Faith, it will rise. For after this subjugation of the Islamic culture by the nominally Christian had already been achieved, the political conquerors of that culture began to notice two disquieting features about it. The first was that its spiritual foundation proved immovable; the second that its area of occupation did not recede, but on the contrary slowly expanded. In my own youth the decaying power of Islam (for it was still decaying) in the Near East was a strong menace to the peace of Europe. Those old people of whom I speak had grandparents in whose times Islam was still able to menace the West. The Turks besieged Vienna and nearly took it, less than a century before the American Declaration of Independence. Islam was then our superior, especially in military art. There is no reason why its recent inferiority in mechanical construction, whether military or civilian, should continue indefinitely. Even a slight accession of material power would make the further control of Islam by an alien culture difficult. A little more and there will cease that which our time has taken for granted, the physical domination of Islam by the disintegrated Christendom we know." He's a Protestant, so can't be a Saint of the Catholic Church, but here's what the founder of Methodism, John Wesley, had to say about Islam. "Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it … have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind." [link to www.onepeterfive.com] Above quotes exempt from copyright law and are in the public domain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72671640 Canada 08/01/2016 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using the pope's logic if one of my ancestors murdered someone that gives other people in the present day the right to murder too and I have no right to criticize them because of what my ancestor did even though it wasn't me personally that murdered someone I am still made to pay for the sins of my ancestors but no one outside of my family is expected to pay for their sins of their ancestors and are allowed to freely criticize anyone they want. One set of harsh rules for me and my family to obey and no rules for everyone else. The Pope also equates a jealous wife murderer who happens to be Catholic but who belongs to no political movement such as ISIS with members of ISIS who kill in the name of religion. One kills out of jealousy and the other out of religion and has declared war on society but according to the Pope the two cases are exactly the same. There is no war being waged on us by ISIS. Oh no that priest was beheaded for the fun of it by peaceful Muslims NOT! |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 08/01/2016 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Francis is actually not a catholic. He is a manifest heretic in direct opposition to the true faith. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ^^^ this is a good post. thx for sharing political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 08/01/2016 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71261836 Canada 08/01/2016 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pope says Islam is not terrorism Quoting: Phennommennonn Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday that Islam could not be equated with terrorism and warned Europe was pushing its young into the hands of extremists. "It's not true and it's not correct (to say) Islam is terrorism," he told journalists aboard the papal plane during the return journey from a trip to Poland. "I don't think it is right to equate Islam with violence". finiSHIT here Pope refuses to equate Islam with violence [link to hotair.com] orig [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] :BHC-wtf: The pope is a giant pussy. Dont expect pussy's to have a backbone and to standup against an enemy. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 08/01/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pope says Islam is not terrorism Quoting: Phennommennonn Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday that Islam could not be equated with terrorism and warned Europe was pushing its young into the hands of extremists. "It's not true and it's not correct (to say) Islam is terrorism," he told journalists aboard the papal plane during the return journey from a trip to Poland. "I don't think it is right to equate Islam with violence". finiSHIT here Pope refuses to equate Islam with violence [link to hotair.com] orig [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] The pope is a giant pussy. Dont expect pussy's to have a backbone and to standup against an enemy. this fucker will lead us into the new world order you watch n see political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71563015 Singapore 08/01/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pope says Islam is not terrorism Quoting: Phennommennonn Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday that Islam could not be equated with terrorism and warned Europe was pushing its young into the hands of extremists. "It's not true and it's not correct (to say) Islam is terrorism," he told journalists aboard the papal plane during the return journey from a trip to Poland. "I don't think it is right to equate Islam with violence". finiSHIT here Pope refuses to equate Islam with violence [link to hotair.com] orig [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] :BHC-wtf: Uh oh, looks like the Pope needs to get on the GLP MSM news feed and push the muslims are coming to kill you all MSM propaganda. Remember GLP-ers, the MSM are notorious liars and govt propaganda, except whenever there's a muslim terror attack, then the MSM are 100% honest and truthful. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 08/01/2016 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pope says Islam is not terrorism Quoting: Phennommennonn Aboard the papal plane (AFP) - Pope Francis said Sunday that Islam could not be equated with terrorism and warned Europe was pushing its young into the hands of extremists. "It's not true and it's not correct (to say) Islam is terrorism," he told journalists aboard the papal plane during the return journey from a trip to Poland. "I don't think it is right to equate Islam with violence". finiSHIT here Pope refuses to equate Islam with violence [link to hotair.com] orig [link to www.yahoo.com (secure)] Uh oh, looks like the Pope needs to get on the GLP MSM news feed and push the muslims are coming to kill you all MSM propaganda. Remember GLP-ers, the MSM are notorious liars and govt propaganda, except whenever there's a muslim terror attack, then the MSM are 100% honest and truthful. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
CELT1 User ID: 72402551 United States 08/01/2016 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and he also say jesus was a myth, big bang and evolution created us, abortion is ok, and pedo priests are fit for duty...so.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70525651 If People Knew About Spirits And Souls They Would Know Today Exactly Who THe Pope is... PETER... Still Seeking Righteousness For His Denial... Even Held His Old Bones Knowing Nothing Of GOD... CELT1 |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 08/01/2016 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Did Jesus Ever Tell Anyone To Go Out And Create A New Religion?... He Didn't... Quoting: CELT1 When Did Jesus Ever Tell Anyone To Create A New Book?... He Didn't... But The Romans DID... SAD Jesus Came Only For The Lost Of ISRAEL?... True Or False?... TRUE... Jesus Said To Stay Away From Pagans?... True Or False?... TRUE By The Hands Of Scribes By The Order Of A King New Books And Religion Was Created... SAD yea this popes tellin ppl to go see the nu harry potter when the last flick came out - yeah telln ppl to go see witchcraft then rewriting the bible on gays this guys the black pope im tellin yas. hes the grand deceiver political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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