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SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.

 
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SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Antidepressants , which are mostly Serotonin Reuptake inhibitors lower your consciousness and dull you. they cause you to lose a sense of drive and spirit. of all antidepressants, only one antidepressant raise your consciousness, higher abilities and drive, and that one works the exact opposite way, by lower instead of raising extra-cellular serotonin. Its called Stablon [link to www.tianeptine.com] . the rest are pretty much evil.

Serotonin acts as an inhibitory neurotransmitter. contrary to popular myth, increased serotonin isnt to be associated with increased feeling of well-being. Even then pleasurable drug MDMA (Ecstacy) owes its positive effects to actually LOWERING serotonin in one particular area of the brain while it increases the release of serotonin globally, which causes its E-tarded side-effects. some serotonin/dopamine agonists/antagonist such as LSD play a role by being BLOCKING some 5-ht (serotonin) receptors while stimulating others

the fact is, theres no such thing as a pro-serotonin drug that makes you feel good or expanded. The serotonin hypothesis of depression is a fraud. thats why SSRIs dont make people feel good after one or two pills. thats why they say "wait 8 weeks for effects" (neuroplasticity factors) and thats why stablon, a drug that LOWERS serotonin by INCREASING its reuptake (exact opposite of SSRIs) makes people feel social, empathic, energetic and feeling good. we now know, without a doubt that serotonin hypothesis is a fraud.

stay the hell away from SSRIs and most if not all tricyclics. this INCLUDES ST JOHNS WORT! if you have depression and live in a country that has stablon, ask for that instead. you could give wellbutrion a shot because it isnt an SSRI, but it also isnt that great of a drug and dont get your hopes up. if you and your doctor go the stimulant route, please avoid adderall/dexedrine/amphetamine of any kind. Ritalin and Strattera are much safer chooses as they merely inhibit the reuptake of catecholamines rather than force their release like amphetamine does, which can be depleting and neurotoxic. your other options are listed here: [link to www.biopsychiatry.com]


What is your story about your doctor giving you icky drugs?
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Good post, AC 177086.

There is another deadly effect to SSRI's sequestering all bodily serotonin toward the brain.

Other parts of the body need serotonin as well, in order to function properly. For example, all striated muscles in the body. Cardiac muscle.

So what good is it to get the *temporary fix* of feeling more "up", when your heart isn't beating?

Big Pharma strikes again!

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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Most people are too lazy to even consider giving up their mind altering pharmaceutical drugs anyway. They like supporting those comparies which gave them illusory comfort, which leads to other biological imbalances later in the future. This article is clearly true but will not be accepted by those who cannot do without.

Something else would have to occur to get their ass moving, like a good smack in the face perhaps? Oh I know, getting off their ass and learning how to excersise for the first time in their life. thats a good suggestion!!
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01/04/2007 03:27 AM
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
is there a link to this as an actual article or did you make it up?

i do agree with you though, every SSRI that I have taken has caused me to feel like a mindless zombie. But on the other hand, they do stop things like psychosis and scitzophrenia... so if someone has an illness like this then what can they do to treat themselves besides taking an SSRI?
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
is there a link to this as an actual article or did you make it up?

i do agree with you though, every SSRI that I have taken has caused me to feel like a mindless zombie. But on the other hand, they do stop things like psychosis and scitzophrenia... so if someone has an illness like this then what can they do to treat themselves besides taking an SSRI?
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made it up instantly after i pressed "Post New Thread"
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Good post, AC 177086.

There is another deadly effect to SSRI's sequestering all bodily serotonin toward the brain.

Other parts of the body need serotonin as well, in order to function properly. For example, all striated muscles in the body. Cardiac muscle.

So what good is it to get the *temporary fix* of feeling more "up", when your heart isn't beating?

Big Pharma strikes again!

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Im sorry but i have to mention this is wrong. Serotonin does not even penetrate the blood brain barrior and taking SSRI doesnt some how re-allocate all your serotonin to the brain. this is false. i dont know where you get this strange idea.
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Good post, AC 177086.

There is another deadly effect to SSRI's sequestering all bodily serotonin toward the brain.

Other parts of the body need serotonin as well, in order to function properly. For example, all striated muscles in the body. Cardiac muscle.

So what good is it to get the *temporary fix* of feeling more "up", when your heart isn't beating?

Big Pharma strikes again!

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Im sorry but i have to mention this is wrong. Serotonin does not even penetrate the blood brain barrior and taking SSRI doesnt some how re-allocate all your serotonin to the brain. this is false. i dont know where you get this strange idea.
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The idea came from somewhere right? somewhere externally from somebodys consciousness before entering it internally. Which would mean evidence exists somewhere, for the perceiever to educate themselves from. so now it becomes a possibility inside the interior of the human biological system.

Perhaps you are consuming too many SSRI's?
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01/04/2007 05:09 AM
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
And they hand them out like candy. The very fact that so many people kill themselves on them should be a sign that they are not good. But, it's all about money and mind control so we do it.
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
don't knock ssri.. some have literally saved people's lives and some have ended them.. especially adolescents and kids.. psychiatrists are finding out that they are extremely effective for certain kinds of people who have inherently lower serotonin... however the latest maos are much more effective than ssri.. for certain types of people.. the epidemiologists haven't worked out yet which kind of drug works for which kind of person.. they rely on the shotgun approach.. hopefully the new individually tailored drug regiemes will do this.. but not everyone has the money to falk out to benefit from this new, expensive pharmocotherapy..
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
don't knock ssri.. some have literally saved people's lives and some have ended them.. especially adolescents and kids.. psychiatrists are finding out that they are extremely effective for certain kinds of people who have inherently lower serotonin... however the latest maos are much more effective than ssri.. for certain types of people.. the epidemiologists haven't worked out yet which kind of drug works for which kind of person.. they rely on the shotgun approach.. hopefully the new individually tailored drug regiemes will do this.. but not everyone has the money to falk out to benefit from this new, expensive pharmocotherapy..
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those people should be allowed to have SSRIs, get rid of paxil and keep the others on the market. but let me tell you, those people who benefit from them have to be a minority and also mistaken about their own benefits
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
i was on diazepam for a few weeks, 2mg twice a day for back injury.

i became bloody depressed, and the stuff is well too addictive.

dont take them.
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
They are helpful to a very select few but are criminally overprescribed for profit and social engineering purposes.

Those that they do help would have been otherwise dead or caged for life without them.
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Re: SSRIs, Antidepressants lower your consciousness, hinder your higher abilities. they are almost like fluoride in a way.
Does anyone have any references to support the above statements? I am intrigued as to where people appear to be getting these ideas from. If it's purely based on personal opinion, or experience, could people please make a point of this.

I've taken SSRI's in the past, and currently taking Sertraline at high doses. I personally have never experienced any of the above, although the drug, as with any pharmaceutical, is not without it's side effects.

I've never found any Independent Academic Journal articles nor any other sources to support any of the above claims, although I'm not dismissing them.

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