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Why is Spontaneous Human Combustion considered a Supernatural rather than biological thing?

 
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Why is Spontaneous Human Combustion considered a Supernatural rather than biological thing?
curious.
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The body will be totally burned, ones and all, but the clothing and chair will be perfectly fine.
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The body will be totally burned, bones and all, but the clothing and chair will be perfectly fine.
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So whatever 'supernatural' thing that causes SHC it appears its located in the head and torso since the legs and arms often survive even if it only took 5 minutes for the victim to burn to ash. I dont see any reports of this happening to animals.

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probably cause bodies are mostly water.
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probably cause bodies are mostly water.
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Yeah but fat doesn't have water in it and your nerves fire electricity..
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is it?
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So whatever 'supernatural' thing that causes SHC it appears its located in the head and torso since the legs and arms often survive even if it only took 5 minutes for the victim to burn to ash. I dont see any reports of this happening to animals.

Any ideas?
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Yes. It's a metaphysical ability gone wrong.

People with abilities get abducted more than normals.

The aliens who want the special DNA are also terrified of people with abilities - so they give them commands in their brain called "Wernicke's commands" to forget what happened and to "die if you remember this" and others like it. This is called a "booby trap".

Someone with fire as an ability and/or ability to access a fire universe gets that restimulated and - whammo.

Read a long list of booby traps:

[link to www.metatech.org]
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probably cause bodies are mostly water.
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The bones get burned. That takes a LOT of heat.
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probably cause bodies are mostly water.
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The bones get burned. That takes a LOT of heat.
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Can the ''wick effect'' also burn bones?

Though there are cases of SHC where the victim was last seen alive 10 minutes before they were found as a smoking pile of ashes...
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curious.
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Interesting question. IMHO if you fill up with methane fart gas to the point where your body explodes and bursts into flames, that is a physical manifestation.

Death by fart gas explosion aka spontaneous human combustion.
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curious.
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Interesting question. IMHO if you fill up with methane fart gas to the point where your body explodes and bursts into flames, that is a physical manifestation.

Death by fart gas explosion aka spontaneous human combustion.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla



But then it'd happen to animals too and herbivores produce way more methane. There's no O2 in the gut anyway.
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Please take this opportunity to quantify and validate the biological aspects of this phenomenon. Afterwards, please differentiate your opinion, clearly and distinctly, in regard to the supernatural aspect of this same phenomenon.

Go time, OP.
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Please take this opportunity to quantify and validate the biological aspects of this phenomenon. Afterwards, please differentiate your opinion, clearly and distinctly, in regard to the supernatural aspect of this same phenomenon.

Go time, OP.
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1. you have fat in your body which doesnt have much water, fat cells are less than 10% water.

2. nerves produce electricity and we all know electricity can start fires.

3. metabolism produces heat and there are centers in the brain which regulate temperature..now lets assume someone has a stroke and that part of their brain becomes damaged.
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I also reserve the right of response after OP answers my previous query.
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Please take this opportunity to quantify and validate the biological aspects of this phenomenon. Afterwards, please differentiate your opinion, clearly and distinctly, in regard to the supernatural aspect of this same phenomenon.

Go time, OP.
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1. you have fat in your body which doesnt have much water, fat cells are less than 10% water.

2. nerves produce electricity and we all know electricity can start fires.

3. metabolism produces heat and there are centers in the brain which regulate temperature..now lets assume someone has a stroke and that part of their brain becomes damaged.
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Can a lack of temperature regulation in the body produce the amount of heat require to incinerate a body?
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I also reserve the right of response after OP answers my previous query.
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And I responded.
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Please take this opportunity to quantify and validate the biological aspects of this phenomenon. Afterwards, please differentiate your opinion, clearly and distinctly, in regard to the supernatural aspect of this same phenomenon.

Go time, OP.
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1. you have fat in your body which doesnt have much water, fat cells are less than 10% water.

2. nerves produce electricity and we all know electricity can start fires.

3. metabolism produces heat and there are centers in the brain which regulate temperature..now lets assume someone has a stroke and that part of their brain becomes damaged.
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Can a lack of temperature regulation in the body produce the amount of heat require to incinerate a body?
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Why wouldn't it? Your body heat after all is just the results of numerous chemical reactions. Electrical sparks or electrical currents can also produce heat that can start fires, as well.
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I also reserve the right of response after OP answers my previous query.
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And I responded.
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As did I. What bodily organ or system is capable of expending the energy required to produce that amount of heat?
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Please take this opportunity to quantify and validate the biological aspects of this phenomenon. Afterwards, please differentiate your opinion, clearly and distinctly, in regard to the supernatural aspect of this same phenomenon.

Go time, OP.
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1. you have fat in your body which doesnt have much water, fat cells are less than 10% water.

2. nerves produce electricity and we all know electricity can start fires.

3. metabolism produces heat and there are centers in the brain which regulate temperature..now lets assume someone has a stroke and that part of their brain becomes damaged.
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Can a lack of temperature regulation in the body produce the amount of heat require to incinerate a body?
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Why wouldn't it? Your body heat after all is just the results of numerous chemical reactions. Electrical sparks or electrical currents can also produce heat that can start fires, as well.
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Would you be referring to a direct short to ground? What kind of potential voltage and current ranges would we be talking about here?
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I would enjoy helping to establish knowledge that this is an electrical phenomenon, if it is one.
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1. you have fat in your body which doesnt have much water, fat cells are less than 10% water.

2. nerves produce electricity and we all know electricity can start fires.

3. metabolism produces heat and there are centers in the brain which regulate temperature..now lets assume someone has a stroke and that part of their brain becomes damaged.
 Quoting: onisonball 29737884


Can a lack of temperature regulation in the body produce the amount of heat require to incinerate a body?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


Why wouldn't it? Your body heat after all is just the results of numerous chemical reactions. Electrical sparks or electrical currents can also produce heat that can start fires, as well.
 Quoting: onisonball 29737884


Would you be referring to a direct short to ground? What kind of potential voltage and current ranges would we be talking about here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


I'm not an electrician. But the human body can produce electricity. It also produces heat via chemical regulations which are regulated by the brain (and also hormones to some extent).
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From the few pictures I have seen, it looks chemical in nature. I definitely could be wrong though.
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Just wanted to know, if you know, what bodily process can produce 700-800 degrees F required to do this.
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From the few pictures I have seen, it looks chemical in nature. I definitely could be wrong though.
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If that was the case it should happen with animals too.
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Just wanted to know, if you know, what bodily process can produce 700-800 degrees F required to do this.
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If you don't agree to a biological cause, what do you believe is a more plausible cause of SHC?
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Just wanted to know, if you know, what bodily process can produce 700-800 degrees F required to do this.
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If you don't agree to a biological cause, what do you believe is a more plausible cause of SHC?
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Trust me, I prefer a biological explanation. Really basically looking for backup. I think it's a physiochemichal process that we so far cannot explain.
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From the few pictures I have seen, it looks chemical in nature. I definitely could be wrong though.
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If that was the case it should happen with animals too.
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There is of course an ancient legend about a bird called Phoenix.
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Just wanted to know, if you know, what bodily process can produce 700-800 degrees F required to do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


If you don't agree to a biological cause, what do you believe is a more plausible cause of SHC?
 Quoting: onisonball 29737884


Trust me, I prefer a biological explanation. Really basically looking for backup. I think it's a physiochemichal process that we so far cannot explain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


Even the hottest chemical fire can't burn a body to ash in just 5 minutes.. that's 5 million BTU's per minute..
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From the few pictures I have seen, it looks chemical in nature. I definitely could be wrong though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


If that was the case it should happen with animals too.
 Quoting: onisonball 29737884


There is of course an ancient legend about a bird called Phoenix.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72721980


SHC victims don't rise from their ashes though...





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