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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 41023518 United States 08/07/2016 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! AlanHart.net About Alan Archives An Interview With Alan Hart Support Alan Contact Alan Hart Subscribe To The Blog The lies about the 1967 war are still more powerful than the truth June 5th, 2012 by admin In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.” On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.” On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.” In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: “There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting.” In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: “The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.” In a radio debate Peled also said: “Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel.” He added that “Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.” In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: “There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon – as the memoirs of President Johnson proved – believed in this danger.” On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: “All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our ‘defence’ against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel’s existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army.” The preference of some generals for truth-telling after the event provoked something of a debate in Israel, but it was short-lived. If some Israeli journalists had had their way, the generals would have kept their mouths shut. Weizmann was one of those approached with the suggestion that he and others who wanted to speak out should “not exercise their inalienable right to free speech lest they prejudice world opinion and the Jewish diaspora against Israel.” It is not surprising that debate in Israel was shut down before it led to some serious soul-searching about the nature of the state and whether it should continue to live by the lie as well as the sword; but it is more than remarkable, I think, that the mainstream Western media continues to prefer the convenience of the Zionist myth to the reality of what happened in 1967 and why. When reporters and commentators have need today to make reference to the Six Days War, almost all of them still tell it like the Zionists said it was in 1967 rather than how it really was. Obviously there are still limits to how far the mainstream media is prepared to go in challenging the Zionist account of history, but it could also be that lazy journalism is a factor in the equation. For those journalists, lazy or not, who might still have doubts about who started the Six Days War, here’s a quote from what Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 41023518 United States 08/08/2016 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! AlanHart.net About Alan Archives An Interview With Alan Hart Support Alan Contact Alan Hart Subscribe To The Blog The lies about the 1967 war are still more powerful than the truth June 5th, 2012 by admin In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.” On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.” On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.” In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: “There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting.” In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: “The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.” In a radio debate Peled also said: “Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel.” He added that “Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.” In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: “There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon – as the memoirs of President Johnson proved – believed in this danger.” On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: “All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our ‘defence’ against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel’s existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army.” The preference of some generals for truth-telling after the event provoked something of a debate in Israel, but it was short-lived. If some Israeli journalists had had their way, the generals would have kept their mouths shut. Weizmann was one of those approached with the suggestion that he and others who wanted to speak out should “not exercise their inalienable right to free speech lest they prejudice world opinion and the Jewish diaspora against Israel.” It is not surprising that debate in Israel was shut down before it led to some serious soul-searching about the nature of the state and whether it should continue to live by the lie as well as the sword; but it is more than remarkable, I think, that the mainstream Western media continues to prefer the convenience of the Zionist myth to the reality of what happened in 1967 and why. When reporters and commentators have need today to make reference to the Six Days War, almost all of them still tell it like the Zionists said it was in 1967 rather than how it really was. Obviously there are still limits to how far the mainstream media is prepared to go in challenging the Zionist account of history, but it could also be that lazy journalism is a factor in the equation. For those journalists, lazy or not, who might still have doubts about who started the Six Days War, here’s a quote from what Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72750562 Serbia 08/08/2016 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! [link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org] That doesn't happen without some careful planning, at least months in advance, if not years. Funny thing is... as oil goes extinct, so does the UK/U.S. reason for creating "the state" of Israel in the first place. As much as they like to think of themselves as exceptional, Jews can't eat nukes. They're only people, just like the rest of us, and they'll hare the same fate as everybody else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72750931 United States 08/08/2016 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! Here is the problem: Muslims and their supporters/sympathizers, are outright, pathological liars. Jew's are predatory, situational liars. Many quotes where made, with no legitimate sources, aside for your word on the matter. Provide more concrete evidence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72750931 United States 08/08/2016 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! "By the end of the war, Israel had conquered enough territory to more than triple the size of the area it controlled, from 8,000 to 26,000 square miles. The victory enabled Israel to unify Jerusalem. Israeli forces had also captured the Sinai, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip and West Bank." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72750562 [link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org] That doesn't happen without some careful planning, at least months in advance, if not years. Funny thing is... as oil goes extinct, so does the UK/U.S. reason for creating "the state" of Israel in the first place. As much as they like to think of themselves as exceptional, Jews can't eat nukes. They're only people, just like the rest of us, and they'll hare the same fate as everybody else. Israel exist's, as the ultimate hope of all Western peoples: a homeland for the Jew's, so they stay out of our societies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71506503 United States 09/26/2016 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! Yes a complete lie, look at those quotes, wow, I was lied to for a long time. It did seem weird to me that they said all these countries were going to attack them, like those countries would tell them first made no sense . Israel was the aggressor again, like King David hotel, LAVONN affair, Liberty, 9/11 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71506503 United States 09/26/2016 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! Here is the problem: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72750931 Muslims and their supporters/sympathizers, are outright, pathological liars. Jew's are predatory, situational liars. Many quotes where made, with no legitimate sources, aside for your word on the matter. Provide more concrete evidence. Provide more evidence that other countries were about to attack, look it's so one sided you should have to provide your evidence of the official story. Nobody attacked them, fact, that attacked , fact... Here NY times even ran it in June of 67. Even with the quotes, of Begin admitting they started it under no threat. [link to www.nytimes.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73238240 United States 10/22/2016 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Israeli prime minister quote ,, says we must be honest with ourselves and admit we started the six day war to annex land ! "By the end of the war, Israel had conquered enough territory to more than triple the size of the area it controlled, from 8,000 to 26,000 square miles. The victory enabled Israel to unify Jerusalem. Israeli forces had also captured the Sinai, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip and West Bank." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72750562 [link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org] That doesn't happen without some careful planning, at least months in advance, if not years. Funny thing is... as oil goes extinct, so does the UK/U.S. reason for creating "the state" of Israel in the first place. As much as they like to think of themselves as exceptional, Jews can't eat nukes. They're only people, just like the rest of us, and they'll hare the same fate as everybody else. Israel exist's, as the ultimate hope of all Western peoples: a homeland for the Jew's, so they stay out of our societies. The problem with that logic is, there's more Jews living in New York and Miami Beach than there are in Israel. And the sleazy fuckers won't leave. |
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