I bought a $300+ Chemistry textbook today...

This is probably the most ridiculous thing I will read today.

Come back in 6 years and it will make sense.

That's what I thought when I read this thread.

How ridiculous to pay $300 for a book that's in the library and you can check out for free. You can keep it all semester free if you just go back when its due and recheck it out.

Ridiculous indeed.

What is the name of the book and author. Let's see who can find the lowest price online. Return the book when we find out the best price.

Why did you go to college?

was it so you can learn, or so you can get a good job when you graduate?

Starting to understand yet?

Like I stated before... You have to purchase an access code to gain access to the home works... Yes you may be able to check out the book from the library or rent it for cheap, but you still have to purchase an access code to access the homework.... The homeworks will be assigned through the selected material that requires an access code to ACCESS!!!!

I honestly did not think about checking out the book.. And in the future I will look into it.. But that does not get around the access code issue...

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Here is the book. Like I mentioned before, I do not doubt that you can find the book for cheaper...

The primary issue is the access code for the coursework/homework, which is separate from the text book. Assignments will come from there, not the text book.

Wiley and Elsevier.

I can learn without going to college. I was working offshore making good money before the downturn.. And probably could within a year or two when it picks back up, but I would rather go to school to learn. I want to study Physics & Mathematics and have a promising career in one of those fields... Most entry level positions look for a Masters or Ph.D.

so how much is just the access code?

Wow! does it atleast tell you how to make meth?


When I went to university they would sell you textbooks, way overpriced, and the professor wouldn't even use them for their lessons.... Funny thing is, i spend all my time in the library, reading books and going through interlibrary loan stuff, while ignoring most of my classes and the content (no i was no researching meth!). Yes, I found the professors that boring. Researched my own stuff, and by the time it was all over, i dropped out, and got two trade tickets. Now I make more money than most postgraduates. Go figure!

Wait until you see the post-graduate price for shopping.. For me, about 15 years ago, I had to pay $500 per application, and than travel to each destination for interviews with nice clothes, including hotel room fees. I averaged a mere post-graduate shopping spree to $20,000 to $30,000, with no guarantee you might have a future.

My advice for anyone in college/university, is to make sure that

1. You have a job upon graduation, with such courses like nurisng.
2. That you can gain real life experience in either cooperative learning, or do side jobs and/or consulting like with computer sciences to get experience while going through school.
3. If #1 and 2 are not met as conditions, make sure you can afford the post-graduate shopping spree and the price of admission, and you have the marks to go.
4. If #1, 2, or 3 are not met, it might be best to never bother, or drop out.

Just my two cents.

You can also work a trade simultaneously while putting yourself through college as a paid apprentice, if your hopes are high for something that doesn't pay like becoming an artsy painter, necessarily. Just saying...

If you're stuck with purchasing an access code, download every page of every exercise that you can possibly access. It's disgusting to have to pay this much, and you might as well get all you can get. Do the same for any other semester that the thing allows access for, since they might try to force you into buying access again.

For books, try all the torrent sites, using either a vpn or a public access hotspot.

It's $68.95 from that site

The way you work the system is to avoid college, get the information from the net, and then print your own degree.

You can do all of that in a few months and be out working. Don't believe that everything is tracked and traced, only some of it is.

Luckily I have a trade that if I needed to I could fall back on. I plan on working with the career services to get a job working at a local wound care facility that does Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy.. After all hyperbarics is what I have been doing for 10 years... It's just hard to get face time with these people... But still trying...

My ultimate goal is to go on to grad school...... I may even switch from Physics & Mathematics to Physics & Mechanical Engineering since it looks like my school is going to be initiating a new Mech.E. Program by next year.... A Bachelors in Mech. E. Is sufficient to land a decent job if I choose not to pursue grad school, or simply can't.

Yeah I have a pdfwriter installed as a "printer" because some access items don't allow converting to pdf if it's a time sensitive deal, but you can still print.. So it basically "prints" a pdf file to the desktop...

I use Netshade for Mac for my vpn & proxy services :)

The places that I want to work are extremely likely to check your credentials.

Perhaps, but when you get experience and give them attitude at an interview, such as "I can save you X amount of money this year - see what I did for these last two companies. It's your choice - take me or not, but I do have another job waiting".

If you can perform, you can demand a lot. You need to be able to back it up or you'll be gone in two weeks.

should of not bought it. pirate it online. its out there somewhere.

Show me

Found it on TPB ... Went from spending $300+ down to around $70 for the access code.

Thanks GLP community! ...even the AC's being rude lol

You can buy it used for like $35.

Lifespan Development course?

:ntrstng::

Now a smart student with a copy machine...

Amazon: 76 New from $133.19 or $59 for electronic version.

It's a pity textbooks like these don't render well on Kindle though.

Still a PDF on a tablet might be ok.

I see the 11th edition can be "shared" on p2p. Just sayin'.

Or you could get your class to chip in and share the electronic version between you all.

That's a lot of money to pay for a textbook.

Comment on the Amazon site:

BUY 11e OVER 12e!!!!!! I paid just under $40 TOTAL (including shipping) for the 11e text, Student's Guide, and Solutions To Exercises (all exercises). These books would run me almost $500 at the university bookstore and probably $300 by looking around online.

Yeah, do you really need to latest edition?

You can save quite a bit by buying the old editions... chemistry doesn't change that much.

I like chemistry books

All kinds of fascinating things inside

I would pay 5 dolla

I'll give you my sketch of a benzene ring if you can pass me the ether.